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General Rugby Discussion II

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    #6062
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,600 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Jack Carty in his "tackle my feelings" interview specifically mentioned coming here back in the day. To see what people thought of him. Always good to remember the players are that close.


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    #6063
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Jack Carty in his "tackle my feelings" interview specifically mentioned coming here back in the day. To see what people thought of him. Always good to remember the players are that close.

    Here's the video if anyone hasn't seen it yet

    https://twitter.com/RugbyPlayersIRE/status/1242768071007383552?s=19


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    #6064
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Jack Carty > Buer


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    #6065
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Jack Carty > Buer

    You're just looking at things in isolation.


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    #6066
    OldRio
    Registered Users Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭OldRio


    If anyone is interested the latest 'House of Rugby' podcast is a good listen. Discussing the possible future of Rugby Post Covid 19. Omit the first 25 minutes, its just filler.
    They make some good points but unfortunately we need real leadership to move the game forward. I don't know where that leadership is.


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    #6067
    RugbyLover123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    I really hope they are looking at the idea of a global rugby calendar. Alex Payne was dead right. There is too much rugby being played for the sake of it. This is the perfect opportunity to start afresh. I’m not entirely sure how they’d go about it making everyone happy however!


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    #6068
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    RugbyLover123 wrote: »
    I really hope they are looking at the idea of a global rugby calendar. Alex Payne was dead right. There is too much rugby being played for the sake of it. This is the perfect opportunity to start afresh. I’m not entirely sure how they’d go about it making everyone happy however!

    Agree, there is a chance for a reset...for lots of sports, not just rugby.


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    #6069
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    RugbyLover123 wrote: »
    I really hope they are looking at the idea of a global rugby calendar. Alex Payne was dead right. There is too much rugby being played for the sake of it. This is the perfect opportunity to start afresh. I’m not entirely sure how they’d go about it making everyone happy however!
    global calender would be of some help but what rugby do you cut if you think theres too much?
    Provinces play between 25 and 30 and international play 11 or 12.


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    #6070
    Bazzo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭Bazzo


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    global calender would be of some help but what rugby do you cut if you think theres too much?
    Provinces play between 25 and 30 and international play 11 or 12.

    It'll never happen because money but for starters the additional derbies in the pro14 could go since they're totally imbalanced


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    #6071
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Bazzo wrote: »
    It'll never happen because money but for starters the additional derbies in the pro14 could go since they're totally imbalanced




    Why? they are the big money earners!!! without the revenue from these match's the provinces would struggle


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    #6072
    RugbyLover123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭RugbyLover123


    Following up on their last podcast, they have released another one with Benjamin Kaser. Would highly recommend.


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    #6073
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Daily mail today has an article about the summer tour next to get the axe.


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    #6074
    KevinK
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭KevinK


    RugbyLover123 wrote: »
    Following up on their last podcast, they have released another one with Benjamin Kaser. Would highly recommend.

    Very good interview, but to be honest listened to see if they would follow up on the discussion of restructuring world rugby Including a possible B and I League, but they didn’t seem to mention it


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    #6075
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Daily mail today has an article about the summer tour next to get the axe.

    It's almost inevitable. I can't see there being much international travel anytime soon.

    I think we will just see this season completely scrapped. Maybe the IRFU can organise an Inter Pro series in July or August to get a few quid in, but even that will likely be behind closed doors, or at least with restricted crowds.

    I'm not convinced next season will start with full houses anyway...I suppose the Welsh regions will be able to carry as normal...😄


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    #6076
    Exclamation Marc
    Registered Users Posts: 11,289 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Rugby Pass is free to sign up to until April 30th. With no live rugby, they're offering free access to watch old games until rugby starts up again and they'll boot you out without any risk of you forgetting to cancel your sub. Well worth it and a really great gesture.
    We appreciate life without live rugby just isn’t as good. So, we’re writing to let you know that you can now sign up to our monthly subscription for FREE until 30th April 2020.

    Without live matches, you can still access full game replays on-demand from major tournaments along with great shows and documentaries exclusively available with our memberships. So, before you ask if you’re getting value from your subscription, you won't need to as we won't be taking any payments from you. You do not need to enter your payment details, simply create an account, or login with a previous account, and away you go.

    We will keep you updated via email, our social channels (Facebook, Instagram & Twitter) and RugbyPass.com every step of the way as we all wait for live rugby to resume. Once live rugby and our monthly payments resume, your access will be revoked and you'll need to sign up again to enjoy all the action. So click below, choose the monthly pass, and get watching!

    *Note: This offer is only available on www.rugbypass.com/signup, not via our mobile app.


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    #6077
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    RA lost 10m last year

    No test rugby this year will mean losing upto 7/8 times that


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    #6078
    uptherebels
    Registered Users Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Exclamation Marc wrote: »
    Rugby Pass is free to sign up to until April 30th. With no live rugby, they're offering free access to watch old games until rugby starts up again and they'll boot you out without any risk of you forgetting to cancel your sub. Well worth it and a really great gesture.

    Is this working for anyone? Sign-up doesn't seem to do anything


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    #6079
    KevinK
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭KevinK


    uptherebels wrote: »
    Is this working for anyone? Sign-up doesn't seem to do anything

    I presume you still need to use a VPN . Rugby pass only available in Asia


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    #6080
    uptherebels
    Registered Users Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    KevinK wrote: »
    I presume you still need to use a VPN . Rugby pass only available in Asia

    Ah, it makes sense now


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    #6081
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    RA lost 10m last year

    The peace process has proved a financial burden for them...


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    #6082
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Exclamation Marc wrote: »
    Rugby Pass is free to sign up to until April 30th. With no live rugby, they're offering free access to watch old games until rugby starts up again and they'll boot you out without any risk of you forgetting to cancel your sub. Well worth it and a really great gesture.


    FYI I found them fairly difficult to cancel with before. They required an email discourse before cancelling for me, asking me personally why I was cancelling then never confirming if they did. Sounds promising that they'll boot you out automatically this time though.


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    #6083
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 16,981 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    bilston wrote: »
    The peace process has proved a financial burden for them...

    Banks going paperless was the real gut punch


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    #6084
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Not good.

    https://twitter.com/USARugby/status/1244715298361491456?s=19


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    #6085
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Not good.

    https://twitter.com/USARugby/status/1244715298361491456?s=19

    Mike Friday did a House of Rugby episode a while back discussing the way USA Rugby was running, it sounded like an absolute shítshow. They were splashing out on huge match fees to bring teams over to the US under their events company and then transferring the losses back to the main company. The 7s team were being paid minimum wage. They were on the brink of bankruptcy in 2018 and then posted a big loss last year too.

    It sounds like the setup needed a huge overhaul and to scrap/separate the events side of things from the union itself.


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    #6086
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,993 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Mike Friday did a House of Rugby episode a while back discussing the way USA Rugby was running, it sounded like an absolute shítshow. They were splashing out on huge match fees to bring teams over to the US under their events company and then transferring the losses back to the main company. The 7s team were being paid minimum wage. They were on the brink of bankruptcy in 2018 and then posted a big loss last year too.

    It sounds like the setup needed a huge overhaul and to scrap/separate the events side of things from the union itself.

    Is USA Rugby separate to the newly formed Pro League?


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    #6087
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Is USA Rugby separate to the newly formed Pro League?

    Major League Rugby is similar to the Premiership in that it's owned by the clubs/private investors and just sanctioned by USA Rugby, they don't have any stake in it I believe


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    #6088
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    IRFU land deal a year or so ago could be crucial when you see this


    https://twitter.com/ChristypDoran/status/1244874106685673472?s=19


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    #6089
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    The anticipated loss of the summer tests must be a massive financial hit to them.


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    #6090
    KevinK
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭KevinK


    Buer wrote: »
    The anticipated loss of the summer tests must be a massive financial hit to them.

    I was thinking about this earlier, the general consensus seems to be if we are lucky enough to be able to have rugby of some sort by May/June that the Pro 14 & Chamoions cup would be concluded in some fashion and that the 6 nations will be completed in October. However in all this the June/July internationals seem to be forgotten as they have no promotion/relegation/title/qualification ramifications and as such they seem an easy thing not to run. However the Southern Hemisphere unions are probably highly dependent on these annual fixtures. Who are we to insist the 6 nations must be finished at all costs due to the finances involved yet these fixtures can be forgotten about!


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    #6091
    aloooof
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    Pretty insignificant at the moment, but there's implications for the Rugby World Cup draw as well. Would seem almost impossible to fit in all the scheduled Internationals between now and end of November, so likely to be less movement between the bands?


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