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Graffiti on trains

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    #62
    XPS_Zero
    Registered Users Posts: 910 ✭✭✭XPS_Zero


    Just a reminder to those who think the Irish justice system has any hope of dealing with this, and to those amazed they are willing to do it in plain daylight: because they've done all sorts of crimes against people and property and never suffered any actual consequences.


    Near my place a guy stabbed someone to death, and tried to murder a second guy who tried to help him. This happened 7 years ago. The guy is out...walking the streets, right now, legally...he tried to MURDER two people succeeded in killing one of them...and he's out, right now, he could pass you in a bar tonight you could accidentally clip his shoulder and spill his drink causing him to go psyco and kill you too...and the Irish state does not give a fiddlers. He wasn't even charged with murder (intentionally killing someone). The Irish state thought plunging a knife into someones torso is not trying to kill them it's trying to do "serious injury".


    So if they take such a blaze attitude to violent crime resulting in death, you can imagine how much these little scum-gs laugh their assess off at the system even if they did get arrested.


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    #63
    purplepanda
    Registered Users Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    These grafitti morons I noticed a month ago are even present in Kiev, Tbilisi & Baku, vandalising trains, metros / trams, railways & roads. :mad:

    For some strange weird reason they don't "write" in their local languages, not utilising cyrillic script / or other local writing systems.

    The morons still use the international vandalising brain dead style of graffiti "language" everywhere from North America to Western Europe.:eek:

    There must be at least one government in the world giving these anti social criminals adequate custodial jail sentences for their crimes against society?


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    #64
    Stephen15
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    purplepanda wrote: »
    There must be at least one government in the world giving these anti social criminals adequate custodial jail sentences for their crimes against society?

    Singapore


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    #65
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Any remotely harsh punishment here would have de parents calling Liveline saying he was a grand fella Joe but he had a difference so to speak that he liked bright colours.


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    #66
    Stephen15
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Any remotely harsh punishment here would have de parents calling Liveline saying he was a grand fella Joe but he had a difference so to speak that he liked bright colours.

    They should be made scrub off the graffiti and clean the trains if they are under 18. Likewise with anyone under 18 caught misbehaving on public transport vandals, people who throw stones at buses and trains etc.


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    #67
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    We are fast becoming a country of cry babies

    https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/graffiti-vandal-quit-his-train-clean-programme-over-solvent-reaction-37496359.html


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    #68
    Ubetkoff
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    railer201 wrote: »
    Ubetkoff wrote: »

    The solvents used to remove the graffiti damages the underlying paintwork as it happens, and all this remedial work has to be paid for. In addition it damages the pocket - the rail travellers pocket.

    Who would want to purchase an apartment which has been graffitied ? - tags to some - criminal damage to others, and bound to affect the market value !

    "Damages the pocket" graffiti doesn't damage trains, the removal might but that's not what I said to begin with. Secondly I've told No one that lives (rents) here minds the tags.


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    #69
    Effects
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    Ubetkoff wrote: »

    "Damages the pocket" graffiti doesn't damage trains, the removal might but that's not what I said to begin with. Secondly I've told No one that lives (rents) here minds the tags.

    Does it matter if the damage is caused by the removal?
    Removal wouldn't be needed if they weren't painted with graffiti.


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    #70
    Effects
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    Ubetkoff wrote: »
    railer201 wrote: »
    My apartment actually has tags on the lower floors and it doesn't bother anyone living here.

    Where is it that you live? Must be a bad area if nobody cares.


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    #71
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,744 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Any remotely harsh punishment here would have de parents calling Liveline saying he was a grand fella Joe but he had a difference so to speak that he liked bright colours.

    Ah jaysus Joe, de childer, dey have no faciliteeees.


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    #72
    Stephen15
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    goingnowhere wrote: »
    We are fast becoming a country of cry babies

    https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/graffiti-vandal-quit-his-train-clean-programme-over-solvent-reaction-37496359.html

    But yet he didn't have a reaction to the toxic chemicals in the spray paint that he used. I bet he wasn't wearing any sort of mask or other protective clothing when he carried out the act of vandalism in the first place either.


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    #73
    railer201
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    Ubetkoff wrote:

    "Damages the pocket" graffiti doesn't damage trains, the removal might but that's not what I said to begin with. Secondly I've told No one that lives (rents) here minds the tags.

    We're not talking about a coat of Dulux paint here - livery is specialised paintwork and very much part of a train and it is damage, criminal damage at that, costing Irish Rail €600,000 one year recently to remedy.

    I would suggest the reason that no one minds is exactly that- they don't own the apartments - if they did they wouldn't be so blasé about it.

    Are the apartment owners ok with the graffiti ? Like Irish Rail they're the ones whose property is being vandalised.


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    #74
    Ubetkoff
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Ubetkoff


    Effects wrote: »
    Ubetkoff wrote: »

    Where is it that you live? Must be a bad area if nobody cares.

    Why are you asking where I live ?Does running people down online about where they live make you feel better?


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    #75
    Ubetkoff
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭Ubetkoff


    railer201 wrote: »
    We're not talking about a coat of Dulux paint here - livery is specialised paintwork and very much part of a train and it is damage, criminal damage at that, costing Irish Rail €600,000 one year recently to remedy.

    I would suggest the reason that no one minds is exactly that- they don't own the apartments - if they did they wouldn't be so blasé about it.

    Are the apartment owners ok with the graffiti ? Like Irish Rail they're the ones whose property is being vandalised.

    Who cares what type of paint it is. It's a layer of paint over another.


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    #76
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,667 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    ^^^

    Troll Alert 🚨


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    #77
    railer201
    Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Ubetkoff wrote: »
    Who cares what type of paint it is. It's a layer of paint over another.

    It's more complex than that - a bit like those toilet door locks you couldn't figure out ! ;)


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    #78
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,744 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    railer201 wrote: »
    It's complex than that - a bit like those toilet door locks you couldn't figure out ! ;)

    Ah leave him be, he's probably a bit thick.


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    #79
    SeanW
    Registered Users Posts: 8,744 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Ubetkoff wrote: »
    Who cares what type of paint it is. It's a layer of paint over another.
    Welcome, new reg. :p


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    #80
    Effects
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    Ubetkoff wrote: »
    Effects wrote: »

    Why are you asking where I live ?Does running people down online about where they live make you feel better?

    Not running you down about where you live. It just sounds like there's no community spirit there.


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    #81
    Stephen15
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    It's getting worse saw an 8100 today with graffiti completely covering most of the windows of one of the cars


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    #82
    Effects
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    Would the closure of Pearse have had an effect this weekend? More Darts left overnight where they would usually be more secure?

    I've actually started to notice more damage on the livery below recently. I presume the chems and repeated cleaning is having it's toll.


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