Radio Station pulls "Baby it's cold outside" due to the #MeToo movement

SharpshooterTom · 01-12-2018 12:53pm #1

A Cleveland radio station says it has stopped playing the classic Christmas song “Baby It’s Cold Outside” because of the #MeToo movement.

CLEVELAND, Ohio (KDKA/CBS Local) — A Cleveland radio station says it has stopped playing the classic holiday song “Baby It’s Cold Outside” because of the #MeToo movement.

Star 102.1 posted on their website that listeners complained that the song’s lyrics are inappropriate so the station says they made a decision to stop playing the song.

Radio host Glenn Anderson wrote that about the station’s decision to pull the song.

“The world we live in is extra sensitive now, and people get easily offended, but in a world where #MeToo has finally given women the voice they deserve, the song has no place,” Anderson wrote.

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/11/30/radio-station-pulls-baby-its-cold-outside-after-complaints-following-metoo-movement/

It was written back in 1944, a different time of course in the midst of the second world war.

I'm not a fan of the song, the lyrics are a bit rapey and could be construed as offensive, but its still a bit harsh to ban it IMO.

I suspect we will be seeing a lot of songs and films from the 20th century continue to get a #MeToo reckoning. Anything pre 2000 is in dangerous terrority.

super_furry · 01-12-2018 12:55pm

Unleash the After Hours outrage kraken!

biko · 01-12-2018 1:02pm

They should replace it with this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZThrYCy9Zzo

RocketRaccoon · 01-12-2018 1:04pm

These people would want to **** off and get a ride.

01-12-2018 1:06pm

it was written by a married couple

but lookit, this is an annual controversy by now

Outlaw Pete · 01-12-2018 1:06pm

Kitty6277 · 01-12-2018 1:07pm

Oh ffs

hynesie08 · 01-12-2018 1:08pm

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

A Cleveland radio station says it has stopped playing the classic Christmas song “Baby It’s Cold Outside” because of the #MeToo movement.

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/11/30/radio-station-pulls-baby-its-cold-outside-after-complaints-following-metoo-movement/

It was written back in 1944, a different time of course in the midst of the second world war.

I'm not a fan of the song,the lyrics are a bit rapey[\b]and could be construed as offensive, but its still a bit harsh to ban it IMO.

I suspect we will be seeing a lot of songs and films from the 20th century continue to get a #MeToo reckoning. Anything pre 2000 is in dangerous terrority.

They're not though.

thomil · 01-12-2018 1:10pm

Good.

Not because of the lyrics, but it's just a godawful song!

The_Kew_Tour · 01-12-2018 1:17pm

Is there anything in the world people are not offended by now.

It's new thing everyday.

Sonics2k · 01-12-2018 1:19pm

Radio station makes a move to drive traffic to their website and station after stirring up their own controversy.

They're just exploiting peoples outrage now.

Grayditch · 01-12-2018 1:22pm

I always thought it was a bit creepy.

01-12-2018 1:24pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Is there anything in the world people are not offended by now.

It's new thing everyday.

Seems that way sometimes. More and more people feel the need in the real world - whatever about online - to let me know they are offended by stuff.

Things I teach my kids - letting my daughter dress up as Moana at Halloween - letting my son play with dolls - not doing Santa Claus or church at Xmas - the music I listen to - hell even some old woman came up to me once in the park to tell me how I was playing with my children was "wrong".

Seems like offense is a badge of honor these days - but it seems to me like it can only be so long before the suicidal stupidity of identity politics and offense has to implode. So I just quietly wait for it to happen.

jaykay74 · 01-12-2018 1:30pm

This is nothing to do with metoo and all to do with generating clicks

Signore Fancy Pants · 01-12-2018 1:41pm

Society is slowing fcuking itself.

Pretty soon people will be so fking offended and righteous over everything that nobody will talk to each other incase some fcuktard starts crying.

The perpetually offended need to get fked.

suicide_circus · 01-12-2018 1:43pm

the only people who would read anything sinister into that song are probably a bit rapey themselves.

Omackeral · 01-12-2018 1:45pm

That's such a cheap lousy faggot thing to do.

Dravokivich · 01-12-2018 1:47pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Is there anything in the world people are not offended by now.

It's new thing everyday.

This song has been called up more and more over the last 6 or so years now. And people who complain about the song don't seem to understand it. https://dailycaller.com/2016/12/05/here-is-why-baby-its-cold-outside-is-not-a-song-about-rape/

greencap · 01-12-2018 2:05pm

bet they won't object to the long list of 'smack a ho' style rap songs.

wonder why.

replace with this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25_jgiY51I

TheValeyard · 01-12-2018 2:08pm

Did the same radio station stop playing Gary Glitters 'Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas?

You know, a guy actually involved in child rape.

Church on Tuesday · 01-12-2018 2:11pm

super_furry wrote: »

Unleash the After Hours outrage kraken!

Less outrage and more concern for inevitable decline into a highly sanistised, gender regimented and bland future popular culture.

01-12-2018 2:12pm

I think the OP could accurately re-phrased as:

"Local radio station gets massive increase in listeners and brand recognition after savvy PR move prompts discussion worldwide"

coolisin · 01-12-2018 2:15pm

Not that I care what the radio station is but did it stop playing that robin thicke song actually about date rape a couple years ago??

looksee · 01-12-2018 2:19pm

You would really have to be scraping around to find that song offensive. Its a harmless bit of flirtation and love.

PlaneSpeeking · 01-12-2018 2:25pm

For every bat crap crazy nutjob who calls for a ban, am gonna play it. The nuttier the objection the louder I'm playing it!

whisky_galore · 01-12-2018 2:44pm

It's jazz.
Jazz, even the very early stuff, has lyrics with sex, drugs, alcoholism references/or whatever you're having yourself you won't find in Country n Irish.

Trigger Happy · 01-12-2018 3:02pm

Even guns n roses censored themselves by removing the emigrants and ******s song from the Appetite for Destruction reissue.
What next?

looksee · 01-12-2018 3:08pm

I wonder will anyone call for the banning of 'Bunch of Thyme'? Now there's dodgy lyrics!

NewbridgeIR · 01-12-2018 3:08pm

Trigger Happy wrote: »

Even guns n roses censored themselves by removing the emigrants and ******s song from the Appetite for Destruction reissue.
What next?

That's the reason why I refuse to buy it - I was actually considering shelling out for the Locked 'n' Loaded set but f**k them for not including One In A Million.

I heard a busker singing it back in the mid 90s.

Gatling · 01-12-2018 3:53pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Is there anything in the world people are not offended by now.

It's new thing everyday.

Wait till the demand banning the term and song white Christmas

Atlantic Dawn · 01-12-2018 3:57pm

Ffs, this will mean we will soon only be getting the Ronan Keating version of Fairytale Of New York, time to rise up against the machine.

Outlaw Pete · 01-12-2018 4:00pm

Candie wrote: »

I think the OP could accurately re-phrased as:

"Local radio station gets massive increase in listeners and brand recognition after savvy PR move prompts discussion worldwide"

You're right but it's a sad sign of the times that doing this is a "savvy PR move".

Used to be that idiocy was something PR companies would tell their clients to refrain from engaging in.

Yer Da sells Avon · 01-12-2018 4:06pm

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Did the same radio station stop playing Gary Glitters 'Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas?

You won't hear that on Christmas FM.

The only time you'll hear it nowadays is in shops that dig out the same old pre-1997 Christmas compliation CD every year. Very catchy, so you can easily find yourself humming it afterwards.

AudreyHepburn · 01-12-2018 4:14pm

Between this and the recent call to ban Disney movies the MeToo movement has lost the run of itself.

There is absolutely nothing offensive or ‘rapey’ about this song and frankly anyone that thinks there is needs to take a good look at themselves.

MeToo needs to end now - it’s gone way too far. At this point it’s just about a desire to be offended. It’s lost it’s original meaning.

NewbridgeIR · 01-12-2018 4:15pm

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

You won't hear that on Christmas FM.

The only time you'll hear it nowadays is in shops that dig out the same old pre-1997 Christmas compliation CD every year. Very catchy, so you can easily find yourself humming it afterwards.

It's on Now That's What I Call Music - The Christmas Album.

Grayditch · 01-12-2018 4:16pm

It's not even a GOOD rapey song.

Outlaw Pete · 01-12-2018 4:24pm

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Between this and the recent call to ban Disney movies the MeToo movement has lost the run of itself.

Reminds me of these comments from Kiera Knightly recently regarding what her daughter is and isn't allowed to watch:

Ray Palmer · 01-12-2018 4:29pm

The whole song is balanced out in what is being said by both parties.

The real focus on "what's in this drink" but she then says she'll have another cigarette and she also thinks more about her reputation rather than not wanting to be there.

You can pick lines here and there but in the context of how people would talk to each other even now it is fine.

AudreyHepburn · 01-12-2018 4:31pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Reminds me of these comments from Kiera Knightly recently regarding what her daughter is and isn't allowed to watch:

I believe that’s where the calls to ban Disney movies stemmed from.

Ridiculous in the extreme tbh. Sometimes as a woman you do need a man by your side. Sometimes you do need help or rescuing. That doesn’t make you any less of a woman.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-12-2018 4:32pm

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Did the same radio station stop playing Gary Glitters 'Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas?

You know, a guy actually involved in child rape.

I think everyone did.

suicide_circus · 01-12-2018 4:39pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amK4U4pCTB8

Ray Palmer · 01-12-2018 5:01pm

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I think everyone did.

He still makes money from other songs people use like Rock And Roll. You also have to remember the people who wrote the songs didn't do anything. The Glitter Band went out on their own and wrote and recorded their own material. Joan Jett had hits with covers of his songs and I think he has writing credits on them. Sometimes the reaction from people is misdirected or has other consequences.

Matter of time somebody does a documentary on the effects of the people who suffer in unexpected ways from being connected to other stars.

Junkyard Tom · 01-12-2018 5:02pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh8hr1o4z_I

dan1895 · 01-12-2018 5:06pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amK4U4pCTB8

What a pair of f*cking losers. The comments are quite good though

Sam Quentin · 01-12-2018 5:09pm

I just can't get over the cleverness and forward thinking of God... Like I know HE'S a MAN but to actually create womens feet smaller than MENS just so they can get closer to the kitchen sink was remarkable :-)))

Jerichoholic · 01-12-2018 5:13pm

dan1895 wrote: »

What a pair of f*cking losers. The comments are quite good though

That's far more offensive.

razorblunt · 01-12-2018 5:20pm

OP says "the lyrics are a bit rapey". WTF?

Everytime a thread on this song is started I mention why none of these complainers have an issue with the "SWEAT a la la long" song now THAT has rapey lyrics.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-12-2018 6:00pm

I dunno, the lyrics read to me (her side of them) that she wants to stay and bump uglies but she’s worried about what her family and various curtain-twitchers will think. The rejoinders from himself read as him knowing well she wants to stay.

Potential-Monke · 01-12-2018 6:13pm

I've just read the lyrics now. It's only rapey if you think that way. Think of it from a lovers point of view. 2 people in love, having a bit of fun. Have you never said anything similar to your partner if they're getting up out of bed to go to work, and you want them to stay? I have. I know plenty of others that have. That's what I take from it, young lovers having a bit of fun, she 'has' to leave because her parents will be worried (whose parents are not), people will talk (that's society for ya), but she still wants to stay, have another drink, a cigarette, whatever. She even agrees it's cold outside. There is not one single sentence that shouts rape or sexual predator to me, just 2 lovers having to leave but neither really wants to, yer man is obviously mad for her to stay so he's all about her staying, and she's in 2 minds.

If you think the lyrics on this are inappropriate, I genuinely feel sorry for the way you look at life. Must be horrible to see the negative in absolutely everything.

Now, Jamie Foxx - Blame it on the alcohol, has obvious rapey tones and lyrics. As does Every Breath you take. This song? Nah, people are reading too much into it.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-12-2018 6:15pm

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You're right but it's a sad sign of the times that doing this is a "savvy PR move".

Used to be that idiocy was something PR companies would tell their clients to refrain from engaging in.

Well, a US president was recently elected by happily saying stuff into a microphone that politicians before would only say in private conversations that happened to get picked up by mics. And for those politicians, it would be campaign over. I’d imagine PR companies have learned something from the incumbent. Be brazen and brass-necked in your controversy. People take notice.

The Late Late Show · 01-12-2018 6:19pm

I am anti-misogyny and pro-#Me Too but this is a bit extreme. The song is hardly an example of extreme misogyny. Neither is it a Christmas song either. Heard it first by Ray Charles on a greatest hits album and never considered it to be a Christmas song.

Radio Station pulls "Baby it's cold outside" due to the #MeToo movement

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