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Radio Station pulls "Baby it's cold outside" due to the #MeToo movement

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    #32
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Candie wrote: »
    I think the OP could accurately re-phrased as:

    "Local radio station gets massive increase in listeners and brand recognition after savvy PR move prompts discussion worldwide"

    You're right but it's a sad sign of the times that doing this is a "savvy PR move".

    Used to be that idiocy was something PR companies would tell their clients to refrain from engaging in.


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    #33
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »
    Did the same radio station stop playing Gary Glitters 'Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas?

    You won't hear that on Christmas FM.

    The only time you'll hear it nowadays is in shops that dig out the same old pre-1997 Christmas compliation CD every year. Very catchy, so you can easily find yourself humming it afterwards.


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    #34
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Between this and the recent call to ban Disney movies the MeToo movement has lost the run of itself.

    There is absolutely nothing offensive or ‘rapey’ about this song and frankly anyone that thinks there is needs to take a good look at themselves.

    MeToo needs to end now - it’s gone way too far. At this point it’s just about a desire to be offended. It’s lost it’s original meaning.


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    #35
    [Deleted User]
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    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    You won't hear that on Christmas FM.

    The only time you'll hear it nowadays is in shops that dig out the same old pre-1997 Christmas compliation CD every year. Very catchy, so you can easily find yourself humming it afterwards.

    It's on Now That's What I Call Music - The Christmas Album.


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    #36
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    It's not even a GOOD rapey song.


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    #37
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    AudreyHepburn wrote: »
    Between this and the recent call to ban Disney movies the MeToo movement has lost the run of itself.

    Reminds me of these comments from Kiera Knightly recently regarding what her daughter is and isn't allowed to watch:




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    #38
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    The whole song is balanced out in what is being said by both parties.

    The real focus on "what's in this drink" but she then says she'll have another cigarette and she also thinks more about her reputation rather than not wanting to be there.

    You can pick lines here and there but in the context of how people would talk to each other even now it is fine.


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    #39
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Reminds me of these comments from Kiera Knightly recently regarding what her daughter is and isn't allowed to watch:



    I believe that’s where the calls to ban Disney movies stemmed from.

    Ridiculous in the extreme tbh. Sometimes as a woman you do need a man by your side. Sometimes you do need help or rescuing. That doesn’t make you any less of a woman.


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    #40
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »
    Did the same radio station stop playing Gary Glitters 'Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas?

    You know, a guy actually involved in child rape.

    I think everyone did.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #41
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amK4U4pCTB8


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    #42
    Ray Palmer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    I think everyone did.

    He still makes money from other songs people use like Rock And Roll. You also have to remember the people who wrote the songs didn't do anything. The Glitter Band went out on their own and wrote and recorded their own material. Joan Jett had hits with covers of his songs and I think he has writing credits on them. Sometimes the reaction from people is misdirected or has other consequences.

    Matter of time somebody does a documentary on the effects of the people who suffer in unexpected ways from being connected to other stars.


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    #43
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh8hr1o4z_I


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    #44
    dan1895
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amK4U4pCTB8

    What a pair of f*cking losers. The comments are quite good though


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    #45
    Sam Quentin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    I just can't get over the cleverness and forward thinking of God... Like I know HE'S a MAN but to actually create womens feet smaller than MENS just so they can get closer to the kitchen sink was remarkable :-)))


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    #46
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    dan1895 wrote: »
    What a pair of f*cking losers. The comments are quite good though

    That's far more offensive.


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    #47
    razorblunt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    OP says "the lyrics are a bit rapey". WTF?


    Everytime a thread on this song is started I mention why none of these complainers have an issue with the "SWEAT a la la long" song now THAT has rapey lyrics.


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    #48
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    I dunno, the lyrics read to me (her side of them) that she wants to stay and bump uglies but she’s worried about what her family and various curtain-twitchers will think. The rejoinders from himself read as him knowing well she wants to stay.


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    #49
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,121 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I've just read the lyrics now. It's only rapey if you think that way. Think of it from a lovers point of view. 2 people in love, having a bit of fun. Have you never said anything similar to your partner if they're getting up out of bed to go to work, and you want them to stay? I have. I know plenty of others that have. That's what I take from it, young lovers having a bit of fun, she 'has' to leave because her parents will be worried (whose parents are not), people will talk (that's society for ya), but she still wants to stay, have another drink, a cigarette, whatever. She even agrees it's cold outside. There is not one single sentence that shouts rape or sexual predator to me, just 2 lovers having to leave but neither really wants to, yer man is obviously mad for her to stay so he's all about her staying, and she's in 2 minds.

    If you think the lyrics on this are inappropriate, I genuinely feel sorry for the way you look at life. Must be horrible to see the negative in absolutely everything.

    Now, Jamie Foxx - Blame it on the alcohol, has obvious rapey tones and lyrics. As does Every Breath you take. This song? Nah, people are reading too much into it.


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    #50
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    You're right but it's a sad sign of the times that doing this is a "savvy PR move".

    Used to be that idiocy was something PR companies would tell their clients to refrain from engaging in.

    Well, a US president was recently elected by happily saying stuff into a microphone that politicians before would only say in private conversations that happened to get picked up by mics. And for those politicians, it would be campaign over. I’d imagine PR companies have learned something from the incumbent. Be brazen and brass-necked in your controversy. People take notice.


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    #51
    The Late Late Show
    Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    I am anti-misogyny and pro-#Me Too but this is a bit extreme. The song is hardly an example of extreme misogyny. Neither is it a Christmas song either. Heard it first by Ray Charles on a greatest hits album and never considered it to be a Christmas song.


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    #52
    nthclare
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    I'd love to comment on this but more than likely the femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's​, millennials and the easily offended will make a complaint.

    So just make up your own minds what my comment would be...

    By the way it would be absolutely controversial,and I'd be banned for another month...

    So I'm behaving myself on this subject.


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    #53
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    nthclare wrote: »
    I'd love to comment on this but more than likely the femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's​, millennials and the easily offended will make a complaint.

    So just make up your own minds what my comment would be...

    By the way it would be absolutely controversial,and I'd be banned for another month...

    So I'm behaving myself on this subject.

    You poor little martyr. :D

    Read the thread - the overwhelming reaction has been along the lines of “Wut?”. I don’t see many people defending the radio station here.


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    #54
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    nthclare wrote: »
    I'd love to comment on this but more than likely the femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's​, millennials and the easily offended will make a complaint.

    So just make up your own minds what my comment would be...
    Um... "This is a bullsh1t move by the radio station - the song is not remotely about forcing her to have sex, and this is the result of offence-seeking by 'femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's, millennials'"?

    Kinda pointless to post "I want to say something but I'm afraid I'll get banned". Like a kid singing "I know something you don't know!"

    Why bother?


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    #55
    whisky_galore
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    The Late Late Show wrote: »
    I am anti-misogyny and pro-#Me Too but this is a bit extreme. The song is hardly an example of extreme misogyny. Neither is it a Christmas song either. Heard it first by Ray Charles on a greatest hits album and never considered it to be a Christmas song.

    Jingle Bells was never intended to be a Xmas song. No mention of the Xmas anywhere in it, yet here we are


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    #56
    Galwayguy35
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amK4U4pCTB8

    Both of them should be sentenced to life without parole for the way they butchered that song.


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    #57
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    Koda Mealy Pronoun wrote: »
    Um... "This is a bullsh1t move by the radio station - the song is not remotely about forcing her to have sex, and this is the result of offence-seeking by 'femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's, millennials'"?

    Kinda pointless to post "I want to say something but I'm afraid I'll get banned". Like a kid singing "I know something you don't know!"

    Why bother?

    Exactly, why bother ?


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    #58
    Silentcorner
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    The Late Late Show wrote: »
    I am anti-misogyny and pro-#Me Too but this is a bit extreme. The song is hardly an example of extreme misogyny. Neither is it a Christmas song either. Heard it first by Ray Charles on a greatest hits album and never considered it to be a Christmas song.

    Has anyone checked through all the Christmas Songs for misogyny though? That's what I want to know...should we remove the actions of all men from songs until we do know?


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    #59
    PlaneSpeeking
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Both of them should be sentenced to life without parole for the way they butchered that song.

    The first pairing of lines was enough for me. Kill them now.


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    #60
    The Late Late Show
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Jingle Bells was never intended to be a Xmas song. No mention of the Xmas anywhere in it, yet here we are

    All true. Jingle Bells is a winter song as is Winter Wonderland and Let it Snow. Somewhere they became associated with Christmas. Let it Snow could equally be banned for the same reason as It's Cold Outside as it is the same theme.


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    #61
    Felicity Mango Velour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Felicity Mango Velour


    Louise O Neill is dancing with joy with the news


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