Radio Station pulls "Baby it's cold outside" due to the #MeToo movement

Outlaw Pete · 01-12-2018 04:00PM

Candie wrote: »

I think the OP could accurately re-phrased as:

"Local radio station gets massive increase in listeners and brand recognition after savvy PR move prompts discussion worldwide"

You're right but it's a sad sign of the times that doing this is a "savvy PR move".

Used to be that idiocy was something PR companies would tell their clients to refrain from engaging in.

Yer Da sells Avon · 01-12-2018 04:06PM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Did the same radio station stop playing Gary Glitters 'Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas?

You won't hear that on Christmas FM.

The only time you'll hear it nowadays is in shops that dig out the same old pre-1997 Christmas compliation CD every year. Very catchy, so you can easily find yourself humming it afterwards.

AudreyHepburn · 01-12-2018 04:14PM

Between this and the recent call to ban Disney movies the MeToo movement has lost the run of itself.

There is absolutely nothing offensive or ‘rapey’ about this song and frankly anyone that thinks there is needs to take a good look at themselves.

MeToo needs to end now - it’s gone way too far. At this point it’s just about a desire to be offended. It’s lost it’s original meaning.

01-12-2018 04:15PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

You won't hear that on Christmas FM.

The only time you'll hear it nowadays is in shops that dig out the same old pre-1997 Christmas compliation CD every year. Very catchy, so you can easily find yourself humming it afterwards.

It's on Now That's What I Call Music - The Christmas Album.

Grayditch · 01-12-2018 04:16PM

It's not even a GOOD rapey song.

Outlaw Pete · 01-12-2018 04:24PM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Between this and the recent call to ban Disney movies the MeToo movement has lost the run of itself.

Reminds me of these comments from Kiera Knightly recently regarding what her daughter is and isn't allowed to watch:

Ray Palmer · 01-12-2018 04:29PM

The whole song is balanced out in what is being said by both parties.

The real focus on "what's in this drink" but she then says she'll have another cigarette and she also thinks more about her reputation rather than not wanting to be there.

You can pick lines here and there but in the context of how people would talk to each other even now it is fine.

AudreyHepburn · 01-12-2018 04:31PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Reminds me of these comments from Kiera Knightly recently regarding what her daughter is and isn't allowed to watch:

I believe that’s where the calls to ban Disney movies stemmed from.

Ridiculous in the extreme tbh. Sometimes as a woman you do need a man by your side. Sometimes you do need help or rescuing. That doesn’t make you any less of a woman.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 01-12-2018 04:32PM

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Did the same radio station stop playing Gary Glitters 'Another Rock 'n' Roll Christmas?

You know, a guy actually involved in child rape.

I think everyone did.

suicide_circus · 01-12-2018 04:39PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amK4U4pCTB8

Ray Palmer · 01-12-2018 05:01PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I think everyone did.

He still makes money from other songs people use like Rock And Roll. You also have to remember the people who wrote the songs didn't do anything. The Glitter Band went out on their own and wrote and recorded their own material. Joan Jett had hits with covers of his songs and I think he has writing credits on them. Sometimes the reaction from people is misdirected or has other consequences.

Matter of time somebody does a documentary on the effects of the people who suffer in unexpected ways from being connected to other stars.

Junkyard Tom · 01-12-2018 05:02PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh8hr1o4z_I

dan1895 · 01-12-2018 05:06PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amK4U4pCTB8

What a pair of f*cking losers. The comments are quite good though

Sam Quentin · 01-12-2018 05:09PM

I just can't get over the cleverness and forward thinking of God... Like I know HE'S a MAN but to actually create womens feet smaller than MENS just so they can get closer to the kitchen sink was remarkable :-)))

Jerichoholic · 01-12-2018 05:13PM

dan1895 wrote: »

What a pair of f*cking losers. The comments are quite good though

That's far more offensive.

razorblunt · 01-12-2018 05:20PM

OP says "the lyrics are a bit rapey". WTF?

Everytime a thread on this song is started I mention why none of these complainers have an issue with the "SWEAT a la la long" song now THAT has rapey lyrics.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-12-2018 06:00PM

I dunno, the lyrics read to me (her side of them) that she wants to stay and bump uglies but she’s worried about what her family and various curtain-twitchers will think. The rejoinders from himself read as him knowing well she wants to stay.

Potential-Monke · 01-12-2018 06:13PM

I've just read the lyrics now. It's only rapey if you think that way. Think of it from a lovers point of view. 2 people in love, having a bit of fun. Have you never said anything similar to your partner if they're getting up out of bed to go to work, and you want them to stay? I have. I know plenty of others that have. That's what I take from it, young lovers having a bit of fun, she 'has' to leave because her parents will be worried (whose parents are not), people will talk (that's society for ya), but she still wants to stay, have another drink, a cigarette, whatever. She even agrees it's cold outside. There is not one single sentence that shouts rape or sexual predator to me, just 2 lovers having to leave but neither really wants to, yer man is obviously mad for her to stay so he's all about her staying, and she's in 2 minds.

If you think the lyrics on this are inappropriate, I genuinely feel sorry for the way you look at life. Must be horrible to see the negative in absolutely everything.

Now, Jamie Foxx - Blame it on the alcohol, has obvious rapey tones and lyrics. As does Every Breath you take. This song? Nah, people are reading too much into it.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-12-2018 06:15PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You're right but it's a sad sign of the times that doing this is a "savvy PR move".

Used to be that idiocy was something PR companies would tell their clients to refrain from engaging in.

Well, a US president was recently elected by happily saying stuff into a microphone that politicians before would only say in private conversations that happened to get picked up by mics. And for those politicians, it would be campaign over. I’d imagine PR companies have learned something from the incumbent. Be brazen and brass-necked in your controversy. People take notice.

The Late Late Show · 01-12-2018 06:19PM

I am anti-misogyny and pro-#Me Too but this is a bit extreme. The song is hardly an example of extreme misogyny. Neither is it a Christmas song either. Heard it first by Ray Charles on a greatest hits album and never considered it to be a Christmas song.

nthclare · 01-12-2018 06:32PM

I'd love to comment on this but more than likely the femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's, millennials and the easily offended will make a complaint.

So just make up your own minds what my comment would be...

By the way it would be absolutely controversial,and I'd be banned for another month...

So I'm behaving myself on this subject.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 01-12-2018 06:39PM

nthclare wrote: »

I'd love to comment on this but more than likely the femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's, millennials and the easily offended will make a complaint.

So just make up your own minds what my comment would be...

By the way it would be absolutely controversial,and I'd be banned for another month...

So I'm behaving myself on this subject.

You poor little martyr.

Read the thread - the overwhelming reaction has been along the lines of “Wut?”. I don’t see many people defending the radio station here.

Gimme A Pound · 01-12-2018 06:54PM

nthclare wrote: »

I'd love to comment on this but more than likely the femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's, millennials and the easily offended will make a complaint.

So just make up your own minds what my comment would be...

Um... "This is a bullsh1t move by the radio station - the song is not remotely about forcing her to have sex, and this is the result of offence-seeking by 'femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's, millennials'"?

Kinda pointless to post "I want to say something but I'm afraid I'll get banned". Like a kid singing "I know something you don't know!"

Why bother?

whisky_galore · 01-12-2018 07:00PM

The Late Late Show wrote: »

I am anti-misogyny and pro-#Me Too but this is a bit extreme. The song is hardly an example of extreme misogyny. Neither is it a Christmas song either. Heard it first by Ray Charles on a greatest hits album and never considered it to be a Christmas song.

Jingle Bells was never intended to be a Xmas song. No mention of the Xmas anywhere in it, yet here we are

Galwayguy35 · 01-12-2018 07:02PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amK4U4pCTB8

Both of them should be sentenced to life without parole for the way they butchered that song.

nthclare · 01-12-2018 07:04PM

Koda Mealy Pronoun wrote: »

Um... "This is a bullsh1t move by the radio station - the song is not remotely about forcing her to have sex, and this is the result of offence-seeking by 'femminists, blue pill mangina's snowflakes, social justice warrior's, millennials'"?

Kinda pointless to post "I want to say something but I'm afraid I'll get banned". Like a kid singing "I know something you don't know!"

Why bother?

Exactly, why bother ?

Silentcorner · 01-12-2018 07:05PM

The Late Late Show wrote: »

I am anti-misogyny and pro-#Me Too but this is a bit extreme. The song is hardly an example of extreme misogyny. Neither is it a Christmas song either. Heard it first by Ray Charles on a greatest hits album and never considered it to be a Christmas song.

Has anyone checked through all the Christmas Songs for misogyny though? That's what I want to know...should we remove the actions of all men from songs until we do know?

PlaneSpeeking · 01-12-2018 07:07PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Both of them should be sentenced to life without parole for the way they butchered that song.

The first pairing of lines was enough for me. Kill them now.

The Late Late Show · 01-12-2018 07:22PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Jingle Bells was never intended to be a Xmas song. No mention of the Xmas anywhere in it, yet here we are

All true. Jingle Bells is a winter song as is Winter Wonderland and Let it Snow. Somewhere they became associated with Christmas. Let it Snow could equally be banned for the same reason as It's Cold Outside as it is the same theme.

01-12-2018 07:26PM

Louise O Neill is dancing with joy with the news

Radio Station pulls "Baby it's cold outside" due to the #MeToo movement

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