Mira Elite QT Shower

paulgalway wrote:

Let me know which shower you go for.

Triton t900pi

countryjimbo wrote: »

Hi Sleeper12,

6 months on, have you seen any improvement in the Mira Elite QT?
Would the Triton t900pi still be your recommended alternative?

Thanks,
Jim.

We are still getting complaints about the Mira Elite QT but they have dropped from 25% to about 10%. I have taken some QTs out after only a few months & replaced them with the Triton T90SR.

If it were me I'd try fit a Triton T90SR. Its a genuinely silent shower. Little more than a hum from it. If the Triton T90sr wont fit (its landscaped rather than portrait shaped) your choice is Triton T900pi or Mira Elite QT. The T900PI is a better shower & should last longer than the Mira. The Mira Elite QT is quieter than the Triton T900PI.
YouTube Video below shower Triton T90SR & Mira Elite QT on the same wall in the same shower room. This will give you some idea of how quiet the T90SR really is.

Got a Mira Elite(1994-2000) that's starting to make a racket think the pumps on its last legs and being as old as it is probably no point in servicing will just replace. Was wondering will the Elite QT fit into the same space/fittings as the older Elite?. Would there be much involved in swapping them?. Tiled bathroom wall.

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This Mira Elite QT was installed only 3 months ago. Notice all the cracks in the casing in each photo. My advice is stay away from this shower.

In answer to your question, it's a direct replacement for your Mira Elite 2

Well that's not good. Any recs for a shower that will fit in the recessed tile of the old elite (I think mine is the one before the elite 2). This one. Only asking because I was hoping to just put it in myself although if there's too much faffing involved I'll get a lad in.

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Not even the Mira elite Qt will fit in if your shower is tilled around. The mira elite Qt or the triton t900pi are a large enough footprint to cover the hole in the tiles. Both have water and power inlet on the lower left hand side

Yeah tiled around. After your pictures I think I'll go with the Triton hopefully get it cheaper on black Friday. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

don3030 wrote:

Hi there this makes for interesting reading. Installed a Mira elite qt about 6 months ago. It was a little noisy but thought nothing of it. Recently it became louder like a high pitched noise and made for an uncomfortable shower. Yesterday when I switched it on no water came out. did all checks but nothing. The noise is a lot less when switched on but no water. Any ideas from anyone would be much appreciated

Ring the shower doctors. Ie
They will repair it free of charge under the warranty. I bet they tell you that it's very unusual that these showers give very little trouble.

Joshua J wrote:

Looking on Amazon is there much difference between the T900pi and the T80si(pumped). Amazon don't sell the 900 but I'm hoping to get a cheap pumped on Black Friday.

For some very strange reason the t900pi is called a triton t80si pumped in the UK so they are the same shower with different names

shakeymathuna wrote:

I was quoted 292 euro for the Triton by a Cork supplier today.The T80si is available on Amazon for 207 euro.How sure are you that the T80si is one and the same as the T900pi.

I already answered this on another thread. I'm 100% sure that a triton t80si pumped is the same as a triton t900pi

cyndale wrote:

Was your previous shower portrait or landscape? Ours is portrait, so I don't know what difficulties a fitter would have replacing a portrant shower with a landscape one!

Your shower should be fully tiled behind. If this is the case it's usually not a big deal to change from mira to triton. We find that we can swap 2 out 5 mira elite for triton t90sr. Concrete walls can be more difficult.

goodlad wrote:

If my reading of the thread is right im looking for a Triton T900pi or in the UK the same shower is called T80si pumped and this would be a direct swapout for the Mira elite 2 for plumbing and electrics.

Yes. The only reason triton have this model is to make it easy to change from mira.
I have yet to find a t80si pumped cheaper in the UK than a t900pi over here, even with the sterling difference

Joshua J wrote:

So got my T80 si pumped installed last month and all was fine but just today the shower head keeps dripping. Reading up seems like might be the solenoid valve. Anything else I could rule out before buying the part?.

It is the solenoid. If it's the si pumped rather than the t900pi I'm guessing that you have no warranty. It could be a small bit of dirt stopping the solenoid from closing. Leave it for a few more showers and the dirt may wash away. Failing this you can remove the solenoid valve and rinse it under the tap.
Did you get a good deal on the triton t80i pumped? Where did you order it from?

Joshua J wrote:

Ordered off Amazon about €200. Yeah no warranty, knew the dangers took the risk. Local shower fella wanted near €400 for Elite QT installed, too much and the QT ain't great. I'll try what you say, is

400 Euro. You need to move to Dublin.

Joshua J wrote:

if that fails?.

It's the right part. If you need parts for your shower in the future look for t900pi parts. Exact same shower.

monkeycork wrote: »

i looks like the screws have been over tightened. also the shower should not be sealed at the back where it meets the wall. this may cause the shower to overheat and therefore weaken the plastic. see the installation instructions

8. The shower must be fitted to a waterproof, flat and even wall surface. The 3 screws
(No. 8 x 1¼”) and wall plugs supplied are suitable for most solid wall installations. Alternative
fixing screws for panel structures are not supplied. Use all 3 fixing points to secure the
shower unit, be sure to use fixings appropriate for the chosen wall structure.
DO NOT fit the shower to the wall and tile up to the case or seal the gap between the
shower and the wall surface with sealant.

http://resources.kohler.com/plumbing/mira/pdf/1265606-w2-a-mira-elite-qt-installation-and-user-guide.pdf

Whilst I agree with what the user manual says, in the real world it's not practical & the shower should show some flexibility to reflect this. This is the only brand that cracks & breaks!
Sometimes Tiles aren't flat on the wall, shower tiled around, huge holes behind the shower, in some cases nothing behind the shower to screw into. These instructions are great when refitting & tiling a bathroom And we follow them to a tee in this case. However when you are employed just to replace the broken shower all of these things are beyond your control. All you can do is the best with what you are facing. Good shower brands give you the flexibility to work around these problems rather than becoming the problem. I have offered to fly to the UK at my own expense to help Mira improve this shower but they aren't interested. The screws included aren't any use for a magnetic screwdriver so most people bin them & use their own screws. Again if Mira talked to the trade they would learn these things.

Anyone fitting one of these open the box. Take out the shower & remove it from the plastic. Now move your finger around the edge of the shower where the back casing meets the lid, particularly around the top. You'll now realize that the cover doesn't match the back casing. This is before you even put it on the wall. This lid will never sit right even on the flattest of walls let alone real bathroom walls.

As for the screws being too tight? we fit over 1000 per year. The breakdown is roughly 50 Aqualisa, 250/300 Mira, 700 Triton & maybe another 50 of other brands. The only showers ever to crack & break on us were Mira Elite 2, Mira Elite ST & now the Mira Elite QT. Even Supajet the most troublesome shower in Ireland & the UK has never cracked. We are not being heavy handed with Mira showers & going lighter with other showers. this doesn't make sense. Also the cracks are showing up not at the time of installation but 9 months later. At the moment it's up in the air as to weather Mira will cover these under their warranty or not. If it was just the odd guy over tightening the screws I'd expect Mira to cover it as there would be so few cases. The fact that they refuse to cover this under warranty suggests that there are 1000s of showers like these.

The YouTube video below was recorded for sound & not for picture quality. In my humble opinion it's vibrations from motors like this is causing the damage to the sub standard plastic used:mad:

wing52 wrote:

Was that just out of the box?

Brand new out of the box. We've had dozens like this since the QT launched about 18 months ago. They are supposed to be tested in the factory.
We've told the shower doctors, the mira rep here in Dublin and mira UK. Mira UK never respond. The shower doctors say they've had no complaints, that I'm the only one. Mira rep hasn't responded to me in almost a year. This shower is the biggest lemon I've ever had and they just don't seem to care.
I emailed a complaint through one of my suppliers. A week ago my suppliers told me that mira said they are on it and will sort me out. A week later I still have had no contact from Mira.
20%/25% of the showers we install are mira and yet 90% of the complaints we get are for Mira showers. It just doesn't make sense to me. Mira consume too much of my life

steps_3314 wrote:

I was thinking of getting a new shower that is mains fed but after reading this I am now thinking that it may not 100% be the plumbing and the location of the tank and the shower itself may be the issue.

All you need is 80mm from the bottom of the tank to the top of the shower. Once you have this the shower should work fine.
Did you not get the installer out to look at it?
A mains fed shower usually is a bad idea for most parts of Ireland depending on the pressure.
The issue you are having sounds like the shower is getting starved for water or it's another one of the many dodgy pumps
If you need to get it repaired under warranty you must contact the Dublin number.

steps_3314 wrote:

Looks like it's more than 80mm.i attached an image.the plumbing is awful but we are planning to tear all that out

This one might not be miras fault. You lose head height for each elbow and the run of pipe. I don't think you are left with 80mm head height. But I'm just going on the photo without proper measurement