All Things Met Eireann Related Go in Here (MOD NOTE #1)

Wanderer78 · 18-07-2015 2:21pm

Iancar29 wrote: »

I would agree that having a model based graphically representation on the tv forecasts would be better than the symbols, but it would also lead to people complaining about the same kinda thing.. " that rain was not over my house on the 6pm forecast, it was 20 miles north ! .. etc "

it makes me laugh how people give out about the 'inaccuracies' in forecasting. people are nuts!

Discodog · 18-07-2015 2:27pm

FWVT wrote: »

The technology doesn't allow.

Why the constant Dublin v Rest of the Country record? If the weather is affecting your business so much and you seem to know so much abiut it then maybe consider changing your business to forecasting. Then we can set up a thread here called All things Dis & Co dog

Because Dublin, due to it's position, gets very accurate rain predictions - you can follow the rain across the country. In the West we rely on the distance out to sea. I can get pretty accurate forecasts but not from ME unless I pay them.

FWVT · 18-07-2015 3:18pm

Discodog wrote: »

Because Dublin, due to it's position, gets very accurate rain predictions - you can follow the rain across the country. In the West we rely on the distance out to sea. I can get pretty accurate forecasts but not from ME unless I pay them.

Dublin has good coverage because it has a radar station but also benefits from the UK radar (one of which is in Belfast). I think you are in Galway? so you benefit from the Shannon radar. It's not M.E.'s fault you live where you live but even with the speed that some rainbands travel at you still have a few hours' notice that they're on the way from the west (while we in the east get a bit more).

If your business is so weather-sensitive then move, though I reckon it'd not as bad as you make out. Their hi-res 9-hr Harmonie model that you complain of is part of a larger consortium, so unfortunately your dig at them in that respect is misplaced.

Again, we never hear of the vast majority of times that the forecasts and data are sufficient. We are a country of whingers and moaners. The next argument I'm waiting to hear is a reference to Irish Water and M.E.

Discodog · 20-07-2015 8:55am

FWVT wrote: »

Dublin has good coverage because it has a radar station but also benefits from the UK radar (one of which is in Belfast). I think you are in Galway? so you benefit from the Shannon radar. It's not M.E.'s fault you live where you live but even with the speed that some rainbands travel at you still have a few hours' notice that they're on the way from the west (while we in the east get a bit more).

If your business is so weather-sensitive then move, though I reckon it'd not as bad as you make out. Their hi-res 9-hr Harmonie model that you complain of is part of a larger consortium, so unfortunately your dig at them in that respect is misplaced.

Again, we never hear of the vast majority of times that the forecasts and data are sufficient. We are a country of whingers and moaners. The next argument I'm waiting to hear is a reference to Irish Water and M.E.

Moving a business that serves the local community. That's a good idea :cool:

I don't care what model ME or anyone else uses. All I am interested in is knowing the duration of rain & I don't bother looking at ME's forecast because I find that other sources are more accurate.

Galway is not served well in ME's regional forecasts in that it is on the dividing line between two forecasts.

You ignore the fact that ME will provide a more accurate forecast if we pay for it so the data is available.

Thargor · 20-07-2015 10:46am

Jesus they have to get rid of the MS Paint text box with "IRELAND" and a big green arrow pointing at the country on their maps, its a joke! Is there any other country on the planet that does this in their national weather service?

Munstermac · 20-07-2015 10:53am

"Let me ask you this. How many other weekends were their forecasts RIGHT and your plans weren't scuppered? Did you come on here to say well done M.E.? Of course you didn't.

They are not responsible for the weather. They issue forecasts, but these forecasts are open to change as new data become available. The latest forecast is the one to go by, but always in the knowledge that it is open to change. In some setups this change can be larger than with others, and it seems especially so in this case. However you still have 24-36 hours to modify your plans so quit whinging and do it."

Quite a few actually. I find that the ones they get right are the ones that any of us with a mild degree of interest in the weather can make a pretty good stab at whereas the difficult ones where us mere mortals need help are the ones the pros have great difficulty with as well.

Not to mention that fiasco earlier in the year when they issued a 'Status Red' for a storm to hit the midwest resulting in all schools staying closed and people including myself taking a day off work in order to protect myself, my family and my property. The reality? Not even a breeze. I drove the kids to the child minder that morning looking at the perfectly still trees wondering at what point do these people become accountable for their mistakes. As I said if mistakes were acknowledged, and a 'confidence rating system' introduced I could live with it but once a forecast is made and the time passes MEs attitude is 'it's not our problem.'

Do these people get paid or is it just a hobby for them? Oh and who pays them?

As for the rest of your post you're basically saying that it's their job to forecast the weather but it's not their fault if they get it wrong because their job is hard and if they do get it ridiculously wrong (in this weekend's case they were still wrong less than 12 hours out!) people shouldn't pull them up on it .....because their job is hard.

Iancar29 · 20-07-2015 1:01pm

Munstermac wrote: »

Not to mention that fiasco earlier in the year when they issued a 'Status Red' for a storm to hit the midwest resulting in all schools staying closed and people including myself taking a day off work in order to protect myself, my family and my property.

It's called being safe rather than sorry . http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/met-eireann-we-can-sometimes-overdo-weather-warnings-658208.html

That storm could've easily produced a dry slot sting jet and could've been as bad as the previous year when the Cork Train station roof got blown off .

Munstermac wrote: »

Do these people get paid or is it just a hobby for them? Oh and who pays them?

What an utterly stupid question.

I recommend you produce your own detailed forecasts and see how well they verify.

Munstermac · 20-07-2015 1:47pm

It's called being wrong. In fact 100% wrong.

Any idiot can decide to err on the side of caution but these people are supposed to be scientists who specialise in this area.

Again though my main issue is that when they give forecasts they almost always give the definite impression that 'this is what is going to happen' rather than 'this is what might happen' which would hurt their ego as scientific professionals who can carry out their job well i.e. forecast the weather.

"What an utterly stupid question." Very mature.

"I recommend you produce your own detailed forecasts and see how well they verify."

Why should I. I already pay people who are supposedly trained in this area to do it for me.

And to be honest when I do look at the data and make an educated guess I'm usually not far off over 2 / 3 days.

But the issue here as I've said before is accountability.

What are ME supposed to do? Forecast the weather as accurately as they can for the benefit of people in this country.

If there is a doubt about their confidence in a forecast then they should swallow their pride and say so, even if that means admitting that they're not sure what TOMORROW'S weather will be nevermind 5 days time.

Is that seriously too much to ask??

FWVT · 20-07-2015 2:00pm

Munstermac wrote: »

It's called being wrong. In fact 100% wrong.

Any idiot can decide to err on the side of caution but these people are supposed to be scientists who specialise in this area.

Again though my main issue is that when they give forecasts they almost always give the definite impression that 'this is what is going to happen' rather than 'this is what might happen' which would hurt their ego as scientific professionals who can carry out their job well i.e. forecast the weather.

"What an utterly stupid question." Very mature.

"I recommend you produce your own detailed forecasts and see how well they verify."

Why should I. I already pay people who are supposedly trained in this area to do it for me.

And to be honest when I do look at the data and make an educated guess I'm usually not far off over 2 / 3 days.

But the issue here as I've said before is accountability.

What are ME supposed to do? Forecast the weather as accurately as they can for the benefit of people in this country.

If there is a doubt about their confidence in a forecast then they should swallow their pride and say so, even if that means admitting that they're not sure what TOMORROW'S weather will be nevermind 5 days time.

Is that seriously too much to ask??

You're talking complete rubbish and exaggerating to try to strengthen your point. I have many times heard them telling us that their confidence is low and to keep tuned/consult the website for updates. They have done this several times that I can remember.

The rest of your rant is just your opinion and cannot be backed up by hard proof. I suggest you go to their verification page http://www.met.ie/forecasts/forecast-accuracy.asp to see independently-compiled stats on their forecasts. Their temperature forecasts are running at around the 80-90% verification range.

Munstermac · 20-07-2015 2:28pm

"You're talking complete rubbish and exaggerating to try to strengthen your point."

"The rest of your rant is just your opinion and cannot be backed up by hard proof."

Details, examples, proof??

You ME fanboys really take the biscuit!!

It must be the only profession in this country where requesting / expecting accountability is seen as unnecessary ranting.

And in terms of their verification page yes ME get top marks on 'timeliness' and 'availability' stats and their temperature accuracy is just about 'ok' but where are all the other stats that matter like wind speed, rainfall levels etc, etc?

Storm 10 · 20-07-2015 2:37pm

Well I still cant get over the change that happened over the weekend, all week they said that last Saturday was going to be the best day and Sunday the worst, then on Friday night they changed it to the other way around with Saturday the worst day, what gets me is the never ever say what happened to cause this, think of all the people who tune in and say we will head to someplace on Saturday as Sunday is a washout and vice a versa, its very frustrating.

Oneiric 3 · 20-07-2015 6:52pm

Munstermac wrote: »

Any idiot can decide to err on the side of caution but these people are supposed to be scientists who specialise in this area.

Unfortunately, Meteorology, as with all sciences, is based on probabilities rather than pure fact so will never be truly precise. I haven't seen the forecast that is being discussed but given how volatile atmospheric forces are in this part of the world, it is inevitable that wrong forecasts will be issued on occasion. This is part and parcel of the job that comes with being a Meteorologist, not just here in Ireland, but pretty much in most parts of the world too.

Munstermac wrote: »

But the issue here as I've said before is accountability.

Is that seriously too much to ask??

This is more a political question but the Irish Civil Service, not just Met Eireann, are heavily steeped in bureaucracy which arms them with an impunity that is not seen, and would not be acceptable, in any other western democracy. This is not the fault of the ordinary workers themselves who work within the civil service but the fault of archaic Government policy designed soley to protect those lodged on the highest rungs from accountability.

Schadenfreudia · 20-07-2015 7:02pm

My beef with ME (and it's not a major one

) is the failure to even refer to or make the slightest apology for forecasts that turn out totally wrong (literally) overnight.

I'm not saying they are not as good as any other forecaster, in my experience they are the best at forecasting - certainly in relation to here in Dublin - can't speak for anywhere else.

But when you go to bed hearing that tomorrow is going to be a cloudless blistering day with 24C - and you wake up to heavy rain and an easterly wind and it's 12 degrees - it is intensely irritating to hear ME forecasting a cold wet day at 8am without any reference to the forecasts they issued last night!

It is more than irritating - it is ignorant and unacceptable, IMHO.

Harry Palmr · 24-07-2015 1:30pm

Amazingly inaccurate graphic for today's weather on the met.ie site yesterday - sun with the odd shower being the theme.

Its been raining all day in Waterford.

Reckless Abandonment · 24-07-2015 2:02pm

It there a radar not working.. Returns on ME site look different from UK met

Schadenfreudia · 24-07-2015 2:09pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Amazingly inaccurate graphic for today's weather on the met.ie site yesterday - sun with the odd shower being the theme.

Its been raining all day in Waterford.

And then some! The ME radar shows some very heavy and prolonged rain falling in the SE - Kilkenny county got it especially heavy for an hour or two and up as far as south Wicklow.

Some shower!

Munstermac · 24-07-2015 2:25pm

This is the kind of thing I was thinking of in terms of a 'confidence index'

Look a the forecasts starting from Tuesday (Mardi).

meteofrance.com/previsions-meteo-france/metropole

Straight away you know how confident in their own forecasts the meteorologists are.

Is it too much to ask for ME to adopt something similar or would that risk hurting their infallible image??

frogloch · 24-07-2015 7:25pm

At least Siobhan ryan on the weather forecast after 6 o'clock news admitted that the rain came further inland in the south east than they thought it would. So they must be listening. How much rain did she say fell in wexford?

Musicman2000 · 24-07-2015 8:54pm

A lot of farmers got caught out with Todays rain that were harvesting barley and silage down around the south east.

Iancar29 · 24-07-2015 9:13pm

frogloch wrote: »

At least Siobhan ryan on the weather forecast after 6 o'clock news admitted that the rain came further inland in the south east than they thought it would. So they must be listening. How much rain did she say fell in wexford?

Yeah none of the hi res models had that band clipping the SE . Summer Lows just don't go down well with the models.

frogloch · 24-07-2015 9:41pm

Musicman2000 wrote: »

A lot of farmers got caught out with Todays rain that were harvesting barley and silage down around the south east.

Yea I know I am one of them. Contractor cut silage Thursday morning and all the weather websites were saying nothing about rain till Saturday evening. But what can you do?:(

Wanderer78 · 25-07-2015 10:00am

met office uk had yesterdays low since thursday on their models but there was confusion of its track until the last minute

delahuntv · 25-07-2015 12:29pm

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

My beef with ME (and it's not a major one ) is the failure to even refer to or make the slightest apology for forecasts that turn out totally wrong (literally) overnight.

I'm not saying they are not as good as any other forecaster, in my experience they are the best at forecasting - certainly in relation to here in Dublin - can't speak for anywhere else.

But when you go to bed hearing that tomorrow is going to be a cloudless blistering day with 24C - and you wake up to heavy rain and an easterly wind and it's 12 degrees - it is intensely irritating to hear ME forecasting a cold wet day at 8am without any reference to the forecasts they issued last night!

It is more than irritating - it is ignorant and unacceptable, IMHO.

Its a FORECAST - check the meaning.

Suppose we should get angry at every newspaper tipster that gives horse racing forecasts and get them wrong 90% of the time?

Atmosphere moves - accurate forecast of weather in a country like ireland is about 3-5 hours. From then it loses accuracy - hence why you get various "models" giving different outcomes and it's a met officer's position to guess the most likely outcome into the future.

In the current wave of fast moving systems and the jetsream overhead, accurate forecasting of 2 days is nigh on impossible - even check back on mt's forecasts and see how widely inaccurate they were 3 days / 4 days out over the past few weeks of the current pattern.

That's life in a climate like ireland - but BLAMING met eireann and then thinking they should apologise - we'll that's just plain stupid.

Wanderer78 · 25-07-2015 1:06pm

i more or less ignore long range forecasts, i.e. anything from 4/5 days out. too inaccurate. short range is fairly good though.

Schadenfreudia · 25-07-2015 9:54pm

delahuntv wrote: »

Its a FORECAST - check the meaning.

I clearly set out the parameters of the limited cases where an apology for/reference to a mistake is reasonably expected.

I have no need to "check the meaning" - that is the ME defence of ignorance and lack of customer focus - as I have already pointed out.

Read the post you are replying to.

That's life in a climate like ireland - but BLAMING met eireann and then thinking they should apologise - we'll that's just plain stupid.

I explicitly did not blame ME for getting forecasts wrong.

Again, read what you are responding to before bandying the word "stupid" about the place :cool:

Schadenfreudia · 25-07-2015 9:58pm

delahuntv wrote: »

Suppose we should get angry at every newspaper tipster that gives horse racing forecasts and get them wrong 90% of the time?

You appear to imply that ME forecasts are of the same provenance as racing tips?

You really think they are that bad?

smellslikeshoes · 26-07-2015 5:10pm

Anyone notice today that the Met.ie rainfall radar was not picking up on the rain very well? There was a few times today when the radar was showing no rain when there was still a decent amount falling.

Schadenfreudia · 26-07-2015 5:13pm

smellslikeshoes wrote: »

Anyone notice today that the Met.ie rainfall radar was not picking up on the rain very well? There was a few times today when the radar was showing no rain when there was still a decent amount falling.

Indeed I did; here in the shadow of the Wicklow/Dublin hills I often see rain on the radar when none is actually falling - today I noticed we were shown to be dry even though it has been raining since 4am!

delahuntv · 26-07-2015 8:04pm

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

I clearly set out the parameters of the limited cases where an apology for/reference to a mistake is reasonably expected.

I have no need to "check the meaning" - that is the ME defence of ignorance and lack of customer focus - as I have already pointed out.

Read the post you are replying to.

I explicitly did not blame ME for getting forecasts wrong.

Again, read what you are responding to before bandying the word "stupid" about the place :cool:

Can you give me the example you talk about "cloudless day 24 degrees" and then it being a day of "heavy rain and 12 degrees"

A little ott? Hence you seem to blame met eireann and then you expect an apology?

As I said, a rather stupid post.

piuswal · 26-07-2015 8:40pm

Firstly I'm responding to this recent" Very bad forecast", apology or not, from a distance; NW France to be precise and I have come to the discussion towards the end rather than the beginning, so I may be missing some of the detail.

For what it's worth;

Met Eireann produce weather forecasts using output from a variety of imperfect models.
Updated data and later model runs can and do, sometimes, produce significantly different forecasts.
Sometimes the difference is simply due to the spatial distribution of the parameter, usually rain.
Ireland occupies a very small area on the surface of the globe and yes there are very fine resolution models but relatively small spatial displacements can and do make a huge difference to forecasts, particularly in such a volatile weather region that Ireland occupies.

Notwithstanding all of the above, when the forecast, in the next 24h rs, is for sunny and 24 degrees and the actual is 12 degrees and rain, I do think reference should be made to what happened, as Siobhan Ryan did, and that should be that.
A short explanation is all that is needed.

Schadenfreudia · 26-07-2015 9:01pm

delahuntv wrote: »

Can you give me the example you talk about "cloudless day 24 degrees" and then it being a day of "heavy rain and 12 degrees"

A little ott? Hence you seem to blame met eireann and then you expect an apology?

As I said, a rather stupid post.

It was an example of a forecast I recall from a summer some years back. There are others.

What's your point - other than to call my posts "stupid"?

Harry Palmr · 01-08-2015 6:00pm

Met error strike again. Today was supposed to start at its best away from the SW corner but here in Waterford the day brightened up from a dull start, only now is the cloud cover from the west taking over.

delahuntv · 01-08-2015 10:50pm

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

It was an example of a forecast I recall from a summer some years back. There are others.

What's your point - other than to call my posts "stupid"?

Some YEARS back? Ah jaysus, you don't half hold a grudge?

delahuntv · 01-08-2015 10:56pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Met error strike again. Today was supposed to start at its best away from the SW corner but here in Waterford the day brightened up from a dull start, only now is the cloud cover from the west taking over.

Met.ie forecast yesterday said today would be best of weekend with sunny periods most areas with southwest area experiencing more cloud and some light rain as day progressed - from what I experienced this was 100% correct.

(I have several retail outlets around the country and weather can affect business and reports from stores give weather conditions of the day - I love current weather!!

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Schadenfreudia · 01-08-2015 11:49pm

delahuntv wrote: »

Some YEARS back? Ah jaysus, you don't half hold a grudge?

No. I was giving an example which was described as "stupid".

Schadenfreudia · 01-08-2015 11:50pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Met error strike again. Today was supposed to start at its best away from the SW corner but here in Waterford the day brightened up from a dull start, only now is the cloud cover from the west taking over.

Ah Harry! Don't make any criticism of ME here, however mild...:rolleyes:

droidman123 · 02-08-2015 12:51am

Mt cranium predicted a storm for tomorrow,not gonna happen.Ken ring predicts the end of the world every year,postman Pat in Donegal tells us the robins are eating berries so its gonna be a winter wonderland......and last but not least met eireann predict the weather......all of them wrong and all of them chancers.I said it before and I will say it again,Ireland's weather cannot be predicted for more than 3 days at the most.why people are consistently surprised by this is beyond me.

Schadenfreudia · 02-08-2015 1:05am

droidman123 wrote: »

Ireland's weather cannot be predicted for more than 3 days at the most.why people are consistently surprised by this is beyond me.

Me too.

weisses · 02-08-2015 7:12am

delahuntv wrote: »

I have several retail outlets around the country and weather can affect business and reports from stores give weather conditions of the day - I love current weather!!

I'm guessing you are not in the Ice cream business :P

JCX BXC · 03-08-2015 2:14am

In fairness I find MT to be fairly accurate. Maybe a little bit off on the locationing of things but fairly accurate none the less.

delahuntv · 03-08-2015 10:27am

Where many forecasts get it wrong is in exactly the pattern of weather Ireland is experiencing at present.

A constant stream of weather systems carried on the jetsream which is effectively right overhead.

More learned posters can probably explain better, but even if you look at mt's forecasts from 2 days out, they have been quite wrong - not because of his forecasting, but because even a slight change in mid Atlantic can change the actual weather hitting Ireland one or two days later. Yesterday was classic example - on Saturday the forecast for Sunday said East was to be cloudy and have up to 15mm of rain, - it was a surprisingly nice day with barely a shower.

Obviously in more settled patterns of blocking highs, a longer and more accurate forecast can be had.

At the end of the day, it is acknowledged that forecasting Irish weather is the most difficult in the world.

But that simply doesn't wash with some people.

03-08-2015 11:06am

Like some other posters on here, I find Met Eireann truly terrible myself and simply cannot be used for any planning the day ahead.

It is not so much the accuracy of their forecasts, and I do acknowledge that any long term forecasts is difficult in Ireland.

Rather it is with just how poor their delivery of the forecast is.

1.
No morning forecast on TV. Why not give a detailed forecast for the day ahead. As I understand, we can only forecast with any reasonable accuracy 12 or so hours ahead. Fine then, but air a proper bulletin for the day ahead, akin to their programs after 6pm/9pm news.

No morning bulletin on TV is unforgivable imo.

2.
The Short Range Forecast function on the website only has a range of 6 hours. 6 hours ffs! The day lasts longer than that, why not push it out to 10 or 12 hours ahead. Even if it has to be acknowledged that it cannot guarantee the same accuracy at the 10 hour range or whatever, just show bloody something !!

3.
The mobile website is terrible and doesn't even include Short Range Forecast function. While we can switch to full site version, the slider on Short Range can be a bit fiddley on mobile browsers. Plus only limited to the 6 hrs (see #2).

4.
When all said, when you compare other delivery methods like yr.no's meteogram and the Rain Alarm apps, it shows just how sorely lacking Met Eireann are in this regards.

FWVT · 03-08-2015 10:41pm

salonfire wrote: »

Like some other posters on here, I find Met Eireann truly terrible myself and simply cannot be used for any planning the day ahead.

It is not so much the accuracy of their forecasts, and I do acknowledge that any long term forecasts is difficult in Ireland.

Rather it is with just how poor their delivery of the forecast is.

1.
No morning forecast on TV. Why not give a detailed forecast for the day ahead. As I understand, we can only forecast with any reasonable accuracy 12 or so hours ahead. Fine then, but air a proper bulletin for the day ahead, akin to their programs after 6pm/9pm news.

No morning bulletin on TV is unforgivable imo.

2.
The Short Range Forecast function on the website only has a range of 6 hours. 6 hours ffs! The day lasts longer than that, why not push it out to 10 or 12 hours ahead. Even if it has to be acknowledged that it cannot guarantee the same accuracy at the 10 hour range or whatever, just show bloody something !!

3.
The mobile website is terrible and doesn't even include Short Range Forecast function. While we can switch to full site version, the slider on Short Range can be a bit fiddley on mobile browsers. Plus only limited to the 6 hrs (see #2).

4.
When all said, when you compare other delivery methods like yr.no's meteogram and the Rain Alarm apps, it shows just how sorely lacking Met Eireann are in this regards.

You got your 6 upside-down, their short range forecast goes to 9 hours, not 6.

03-08-2015 10:58pm

I must check again but I think it is usually around 6 hours ahead. Maybe it changes. Now it is 7 hours, not 9.

e,g it is 22.58 now. Range is up to 6am.

piuswal · 04-08-2015 12:13am

salonfire wrote: »

Like some other posters on here, I find Met Eireann truly terrible myself and simply cannot be used for any planning the day ahead.

It is not so much the accuracy of their forecasts, and I do acknowledge that any long term forecasts is difficult in Ireland.

Rather it is with just how poor their delivery of the forecast is.

1.
No morning forecast on TV. Why not give a detailed forecast for the day ahead. As I understand, we can only forecast with any reasonable accuracy 12 or so hours ahead. Fine then, but air a proper bulletin for the day ahead, akin to their programs after 6pm/9pm news.

No morning bulletin on TV is unforgivable imo.

2.
The Short Range Forecast function on the website only has a range of 6 hours. 6 hours ffs! The day lasts longer than that, why not push it out to 10 or 12 hours ahead. Even if it has to be acknowledged that it cannot guarantee the same accuracy at the 10 hour range or whatever, just show bloody something !!

3.
The mobile website is terrible and doesn't even include Short Range Forecast function. While we can switch to full site version, the slider on Short Range can be a bit fiddley on mobile browsers. Plus only limited to the 6 hrs (see #2).

4.
When all said, when you compare other delivery methods like yr.no's meteogram and the Rain Alarm apps, it shows just how sorely lacking Met Eireann are in this regards.

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RTE decide what goes on TV not Met Eireann

It is also a question of resources, both people and money. You simply cannot compare Met Eireann with YR.NO which is a joint venture between the Norwegian Met Service and a TV station.

Aerohead · 04-08-2015 2:34pm

Talk about getting it wrong today, all the showers are in the West/Midwest and South, nothing in the North.

04 August 2015 11:05

Today
Windy today with scattered showers, however they will generally only affect northern parts this afternoon. A mix of cloudy and bright spells with highs of 15 to 19 degrees. Southwesterly winds will be fresh to strong and gusty, but will ease off towards the evening.

Harps · 04-08-2015 2:45pm

Aerohead wrote: »

Talk about getting it wrong today, all the showers are in the West/Midwest and South, nothing in the North.

Frequent showers all day here in Donegal...

DOCARCH · 04-08-2015 2:53pm

Aerohead wrote: »

Talk about getting it wrong today, all the showers are in the West/Midwest and South, nothing in the North.

If you are assessing this by the ME radar, I would not bother, as coverage of North is not great. Loads of showers today up north....http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation/map/#?map=Rainfall&zoom=7&lon=-5.09&lat=54.34&fcTime=1438651800

Aerohead · 04-08-2015 2:59pm

DOCARCH wrote: »

If you are assessing this by the ME radar, I would not bother, as coverage of North is not great. Loads of showers today up north....http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation/map/#?map=Rainfall&zoom=7&lon=-5.09&lat=54.34&fcTime=1438651800

Thanks for that I did not realise that the radar coverage was not good up there , I take it all back so, it just looks on the radar that there are very few showers up North compared to further South. There are some big showers there alright, how come Met Eireann don't use the UK weather radar if their coverage is so bad.

04-08-2015 4:25pm

Aerohead wrote: »

Thanks for that I did not realise that the radar coverage was not good up there , I take it all back so, it just looks on the radar that there are very few showers up North compared to further South. There are some big showers there alright, how come Met Eireann don't use the UK weather radar if their coverage is so bad.

Just another example of Met Eireann's ineptitude I suppose.

Looking at radar sequence over Donegal between Met Eireann and the Met Office, there is a massive difference.

ME showing very little showers while in reality there are frequent, heavy showers here.

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