Dublin GAA Discussion Thread: Capital Gains

You did well to root that out of the archives. Interesting.

M and M (Mullins and Mossy) did it for Vinnies. They managed to contain Slys and claw themselves back into the game only pulling away late on in the second half. I am not sure if Slys ran out of steam or if Vinnies upped it, or was it a bit of both.

Enjoyable game. Very little between the sides. I felt Na Fianna were getting on top early in the second half but when they were two points up they hit 2 bad wides and kicked another good chance into the keepers hands. Should have gone 4 or 5 up and i dont think Crokes would have come back.

Those misses and a black card for Na Fianna seemed to kick Crokes into life and Shane Walsh kicked some vital scores. Craig Dias too.

Although Crokes went two ahead late on Na Fianna had their chances to force extra time but some wayward shooting deprived them.

A lot of talk when Shane Walsh moved to Crokes and it was some coup for the southside giants. Without him today the trophy would more than likely be heading to Glasnevin.

Probably an opportunity missed for Na Fianna.

However they were very unfortunate with the Paddy Quinn incident, difficult for the Ref to get right as it was off the ball but that have gone the other way.

Doesn't say anything except that he came up from home yesterday. Just like I have lived in Dublin for 25 years. Have my own property in Dublin, wife and kids etc. When someone asks me what I am doing for the weekend - I answer I'm going home for the weekend (for a weekend that I am going down to Mayo). It's where I grew up.

I'm pretty sure that where Shane Walsh considers to be his home, has zero deciding factor in whether or not he was allowed to join Kilmacud. Isn't it based on job and college etc.? I don't think he is married or has kids. His home is probably where he grew up, which is in Galway.

I believe Walsh goes to college in Dublin City Centre, Portobello Institute.

But anyway it does not sit easy with me that a team like Crokes can just pick Walsh up no bother. Not Walsh's fault he will go where he has the best chance of winning titles while in Dublin. But is it fair on the other teams, and the integrity of the competition?

Walsh basically won Crokes the Dublin title, and if Mannion gets fit with the two of them could be talking All Ireland, will no doubt Waltz/Walsh through Leinster and will be strong favourites for landing the AI.

I still think there should be a draft like the American basketball teams do. For when non Dublin lads come up to Dublin. OK they might not be willing to play intermediate level. But would they play Senior 2 or Senior 1. Weakest teams get first pick near to where the player is living etc.

I did have to laugh when Judes where playing Crokes (there was all the Shane Walsh chatter) and the presenters were going on about the amount of non-Dubs playing for Judes compared to Crokes, But the truth of the matter was what they didn't say, was that none of the Judes imports were even close to the level of Walsh.

If Walsh went to Raheny for example a lower Senior 1 team (That is not known for getting imports) suddenly they would be pushing for being in the mix for the Dublin title, with the likes of Fenton, Howard etc providing the ammunition.

Fair play to Walsh great player etc, but it does lead me to question the fairness of such moves when the player is of such high quality in particular.

Yeah they got what they deserved wasted their Windfall on mercenaries and even made Cluxton feel disconnected from the club for a while. Preferring to play with the second team and the mates he grew up with.

More often than not though imports improve a team. But because of Dublin having no ‘Parrish rule’ it does end up as a bit fast and loose compared to other counties.

Na Fianna seemingly learned nothing from last year. The game is won in the last 10 minutes and Crokes will come hard at you in that period.

Moderate your efforts in the game as a whole to match them when it matters.

It is a good job Na Fianna did not lose by a point or there would have been chaos.But overall of Dublin hurling channels that never say die attitude of the clubs future should be bright. All that is needed is intercounty level scoring forwards.

I haven’t seen anyone comment about the split season. But I think it is going well and has being a success. Allows focus on the clubs no stop start stuff.

Agree about Burke. He was brilliant.

The community aspect is dying? And please tell me Ciaran Whelan wasnt pitching Raheny as a 'smaller club' - they can field three teams at Under 14, which is more than 99% of country clubs can do. Just as long as he is happy to put his own club into 'Super Clup' territory because Raheny would as a big if not bigger than Crossmaglen or Navan O'Mahonys or Glenswilly.

If he wants to see Community, why doesnt he head down to Parnell Park when Na Fianna is playing, all of Glasnevin was there - flags were up all over the place. The fact is that Na Fianna has really engaged the local community.

I would say there is a great spread of clubs at underage in Dublin - even in North Dublin - you have teams like Na Fianna who can field 3 or 4 teams at underage, below that the likes of Raheny or Sylvesters that might field 2 or 3, below that the likes of Ballymun or Barrog or Vincents that might field 2, below that a bunch of smaller one-team clubs like Monicas or Tyrrellstown. They are all great clubs in their own right. Tbh I do think this is the single biggest advantage that Dublin has, the only thing close is the hurling club scene in Kilkenny.

And bear in mind that some of the clubs mentioned are football only (Ballymun) or Hurling only (Setanta).

But thats like saying Everton is small compared to Man Utd - Raheny are still a huge club compared to most other clubs in the country. People in glasshouses and so on.

The point you havent made, but I think is a valid one - is that a lot of parents, given the choice, will send their kids to the clubs thats seen as being more middle class even though its a bit further away. But thats not the clubs fault. Parents do exactly the same with schools, in fact they often choose the club on the basis of where their kids are in school. Parents in East Cabra can send their kids to Na Fianna or Fionnbarra, as an example. Thats the same reason the estate agent is putting it in the ad. There are lots of Cabra kids heading to Na Fianna. There are no Glasnevin kids heading the other directions. The clubs you call super clubs are all firmly middle class - NaFianna, Cuala, Kilmacud, Ballyboden, Clontarf.

But you are kind of suggesting that the big clubs are actively driving this, going out marketing for kids, thats not the case at all. The reality is that they dont have the facilities and find it very difficult to handle the numbers. One thing for sure - if you are with a one team club in Dublin, you will have a lot more pitch space at training time.

Didnt realise that was happening, but you are right the astro there is tiny - but more importantly, once you get to age 8 or more you need grass. The game is meant to played on grass. Astro matches are crap, especially in hurling.

I know it would/ could never happen - but the fact is that there is a pitch 100 yards from there that is not being used at all from August through to year end. Would be a nice gesture if they opened it up for the so-called local inner city club.