Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

Dave0301 · 13-06-2021 5:34pm

endainoz wrote: »

I'm not sure if a PC port will fix the most issues, if they could cut out about 4 hours of the padding it would make things a lot better. Combat system is great alright, just all the boring stuff in between.

Agreed that there is a lot of padding. The battle system and the nostalgia factor is what saves it in this regard.

Will hopefully get stuck into the DLC episode later this evening.

fixXxer · 13-06-2021 8:39pm

The update to PS5 is free but it will cost me €20 for the yuffie content? Might just hang on until the full part 2 is ready.

ShaneU · 15-06-2021 2:15am

Just finished this, ending spoilers.

Ending was completely bonkers. When they stopped at the end of the motorway and warned that things won't be the same after we walk through this "gate of destiny" I knew we were in for some nonsense. Fighting a giant destiny demon in the sky of an alternative universe because it looks cool? The original game was crazy enough before they added all these fate whispers into it. And now there's alternative timelines with Zach alive because the story wasn't convoluted enough already. Story complaints aside the animation on the cutscenes was brilliant and the voice acting was great.

BloodBath · 16-06-2021 6:08pm

It really is fantastic. Best OST not just in any game, but any form of media imo.

The whole sountrack is on Deezer if you want high quality. You can get a free month of Deezer hifi. I accidentally chose the family plan instead of hifi and sent a support ticket asking them to change it and they gave me 3 months of hifi for free. (normally €15 per month)

RedXIV · 18-06-2021 2:54pm

That Yuffie DLC is great, finished first run of it the other night and imagine a Remake without padding. Really enjoyed it, and to be honest, the ending of that I enjoyed more than the remake itself. Well worth the price of DLC.

Finally trying hard mode and 1 chapter down and 1 to go

Vicxas · 01-07-2021 11:45am

Yuffie DLC is good, but

what is this Nero and Weiss ****e. I know they're from Advent Children but jesus christ come on

endainoz · 01-07-2021 12:36pm

Vicxas wrote: »

Yuffie DLC is good, but
what is this Nero and Weiss ****e. I know they're from Advent Children but jesus christ come on

Hey at least we didn't get depressed emo cloud from advent children!

Retr0gamer · 01-07-2021 12:47pm

endainoz wrote: »

Hey at least we didn't get depressed emo cloud from advent children!

Please don't invoke him by mentioning emo cloud.

endainoz · 01-07-2021 1:19pm

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Please don't invoke him by mentioning emo cloud.

I heard he's coming back for the PC port.

Retr0gamer · 01-07-2021 1:30pm

endainoz wrote: »

I heard he's coming back for the PC port.

This is all on you.

quokula · 01-12-2021 3:11am

Finally got round to playing the Yuffie chapter. I played in easy mode because I found FF7R such a slog first time round - not that it was difficult, just there was so much endless filler combat to get through in between the interesting bits and I couldn't be bothered with that again. It turns out the Yuffie chapter is actually a lot more concise and I finished it in 2 sessions. I went in blind without having read anything about it and I was surprised how short it was - after the final playable scene it took me by surprise when credits started to roll as I was fully expecting the game to continue.

Still, it was a fun little campaign, it gave fresh perspective on some events, and the post credits scenes were really excellent and added a lot to the whole package. The remix of Yuffie's theme music was another brilliant piece of music, though I thought the original compositions used for a lot of the game's combat sections (at least I didn't recognise it from elsewhere) was not up to the usual standard.

I considered going and replaying the main FF7R game and revisit the story but I don't think the shiny new PS5 graphics are enough to tempt me back just yet, given I found the combat such a slog previously as I mentioned. Would definitely go for easy mode next time to whizz through the dungeons a little more swiftly.

RedXIV · 01-12-2021 5:10pm

Might be worth trying in hard mode? It does make the game a bit more challenging and the filler combat becomes much more strategic. I played Yuffie's DLC in hard mode first and found that a good intro to it. Takes away some of the slog factor to the fights.

But full disclosure, if you truly detested the slog, it may not be enough :D

brady12 · 02-12-2021 12:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118249072#Comment_118249072

i felt same about main game . thought about quitting the whole way through last 3 / 4 game cos they dragged everything out so much . i'd enough . i'm going start the dlc next week too i think

brady12 · 10-12-2021 12:35am

after feeling the main completely took the piss of my time with endless filler i must say the yuffie dlc did the opposite . it's a fun 5 hours ! yuffie is such a cool character . her companion is bland enough i can't even rem his name 😅. combat was a nice change .

RedXIV · 10-12-2021 2:55am

Coming to PC (via the Epic store) from the 16th December, just announced during the game awards

AlmightyCushion · 10-12-2021 3:07am

Ah well, looks like I'm not going home this Christmas. Spending time with family and friends is over rated anyway.

Icyseanfitz · 10-12-2021 4:22am

Hopefully gets put up on geforce now

Retr0gamer · 10-12-2021 10:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118299158#Comment_118299158

It was on the nvidia release list leak but with a release date of June.

Kiith · 10-12-2021 5:04pm

€80 for the pc version that's due out next week.

They can **** right off.

johnny_ultimate · 10-12-2021 5:13pm

It'd almost be worth the premium to mod out that utterly shite Hojo's Lab section, I'll tell you that much.

endainoz · 10-12-2021 5:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118301953#Comment_118301953

To be fair, there's a good 40% of padding that could be taken out, would make for a much more enjoyable experience. Hojos lab definitely took the pi$$ alright.

brady12 · 10-12-2021 11:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118301998#Comment_118301998

100% agree with this

nix · 11-12-2021 12:25am

Pretty much every section where there was combat should be at least halved, especially that scooby doo ghost train section..

The entire visiting jessies house section + roach or whatever his name is... Heck the game would be like 25% the length of its current form by the time id get done cutting all the crap out of it :pac:

devnull · 19-12-2021 4:38pm

Having got this for £49 on Epic Games, still a rip off, but not the £69 it was on the store, I'm finding it brings back a lot of memories from playing during childhood, only it feels a lot more epic and real in terms of the explosion in the first reactor, y ou really feel the chaos now that you didn't in the original.

I'm running it with a Ryzen 5 3600X + 16GB RAM + MSI RTX 2060 6GB OC Edition at 1440p with high for everything and generally the game works fine at 60fps for the vast majority of the time. However when something happens suddenly there's a bit of a stutter for half of a second which made me do some tests to figure out why.

After the tests it seems while the RTX 2060 and Ryzen 5 3600X are easily fast enough for 1440p with everything on high (it isn't a CPU intensive game) the game does like to guzzle VRAM (generally I'm seeing VRAM usage between 5500MB and 5850MB on my 6GB 2060). I'd recommend a graphics card with 8GB video ram if you want to run in 1440p butter smooth at all times.

AlmightyCushion · 19-12-2021 5:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118346961#Comment_118346961

I have an 8gb 580 and I'm noticing similar stutters at times at 1440p so it might not be vram.

Retr0gamer · 19-12-2021 5:11pm

There's stutter reported by people on 3090s. It's definitely not just spec related.

devnull · 19-12-2021 5:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347117#Comment_118347117

I assumed it was VRAM since normally when it's stuttering it's using over 5800mb which for a 6gb card is pretty much where I'd expect to see the VRAM usage top out.

However saying that I've just seen someone on Youtube with a similar set-up to me getting the same issue when using 5500mb of VRAM and it doesn't go above that, which is weird.

My GPU generally is at about 80 to 85% load and no more than 65C and plenty of system RAM avaliable and CPU is barely being used most of the time, so that led to be the VRAM bottleneck.

Of course, it could be something that can be fixed with a patch if it's not VRAM related.

Zero-Cool · 19-12-2021 5:23pm

I wish Intergrade was cheaper, I'd absolutely love to play through this again with next gen update and dlc. I loved the combat and while some sections did drag a bit, it never once put a dent in my enjoyment. Hhmmm might ask santa for it.

*Just wanted to post something positive about the game, change of pace for this thread :)

devnull · 19-12-2021 5:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347175#Comment_118347175

Having just got to Tifa's 7th Heaven, I'm really enjoying it so far. Brings back memories and faithful to the original enough, but also they've managed to expand things a little bit to this point without feeling like it has been padded so it adds to the experience rather than takes away from it.

The whole scene of chaos after the reactor was blown up and the scale of the devastation and how big area it is, you just simply do not get in the original. The dialogue between characters is better and the combat feels good. Personally I've flicked between the classic mode and the new default, classic is obviously more faithful to the original and I'm glad they put that in.

There are two things that can kill this game though in future parts. Square Enix deciding to pump it for as much cash as possible, which they already seem to be doing, and taking the story off on too much of a tangent from the original, which also looks highly likely to happen as well. So we'll see how it goes.

So far I don't regret buying it. The attention to detail has been outstanding, but I really fear that the whisperers presence in the game might be the downfall in the overall project, since it's clear that future parts are going to be much less faithful.

endainoz · 19-12-2021 5:58pm

Having recently bought a PS5 I'm going to give the free ps5 upgrade a go. The upgrade on frame rates might improve things. I also haven't played it since I first got it so hopefully some things might be improved.

EoinMcLovin · 19-12-2021 11:59pm

https://twitter.com/finalfantasyvii/status/1472688441389314048?t=NqHpv59kwcDWVQwSw134fA&s=19

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Zero-Cool · 20-12-2021 12:33am

Ha, after i just posting about this, nice!

Retr0gamer · 20-12-2021 12:43am

80 euro on PC :D

Varik · 20-12-2021 10:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347364#Comment_118347364

Didn't think the upgrade was free, unless this plus upgrade is the previously upgrade is listed as €10 unless that's for the DLC.

endainoz · 20-12-2021 11:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350397#Comment_118350397

Well it was free for me and it's listed as free on this site:

https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/ps4-to-ps5-all-games-with-confirmed-free-upgrades

CastorTroy · 20-12-2021 11:44am

I just did a search on the store and the upgrade shows as free. Though there does seem to only be a tenner difference between the PS4 version and the Intergrade version on PS5.

But sure we'll find out for sure on Wednesday

johnny_ultimate · 20-12-2021 11:47am

The PS5 upgrade is absolutely free if you bought the base game, and will be free to PS Plus subscribers this week.

What isn’t free is the bonus Yuffie DLC - that has to be bought separately if you’re upgrading from PS4. But the base game got a free PS5 upgrade.

Retr0gamer · 20-12-2021 12:28pm

My friend upgraded their PS4 version to PS5 for free last week so can confirm.

It's so nice in 60 FPS!

endainoz · 20-12-2021 3:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118350903#Comment_118350903

Agreed it does look very nice now. Now of they could just patch out three quarters of hojos lab, we'd be laughing.

lee_baby_simms · 20-12-2021 7:15pm

Just spent 20 quid on disc version of this last week to get ps5 upgrade. Typical!

devnull · 21-12-2021 9:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118347364#Comment_118347364

Isn't the PS5 version limited to 30fps at 4K?

Currently just under 10.5 hours into the game on PC and just got to Aerith's house. Something about it, that despite how much grander and beautiful it is compared to in the original, it still feels the same house.

I love how Square Enix have developed the storyline and really fleshed out things in this game, but at the same time it still feels like the original how you remember. For the most part, it is a wonderful mix of nostalgia and expansion although some bits are padded for sure.

Character wise I really like the new Aerith, she's much more fleshed out now than she was in the original, however I'm very much 50/50 on the voiceover. Tifa and Jessie's voiceover's are far better. Jessie for me is actually a great character in the early part of the game, forgettable in the original but really breaks out in the remake.

Zero-Cool · 22-12-2021 4:03pm

The PS5 upgrade version is now free for PS Plus owners and Yuffie dlc is discounted to 15 euro. I had FF7 PS plus version downloaded in case I needed to do anything with the save but didn't have enough space to download the PS5 version so I deleted it. I forgot that Hard Mode only unlocks after you clear the game and you need the full ps4 version game to upload the save (stupid **** sony). Also, I thought trophies would auto pop but I just unlocked 1 after my first battle so looks like I can go for the platinum again. Looks like I'll have to download the ps4 version again, upload the save and start the PS5 version on hard.

Really looking forward to another playthrough!

Edit: Only needed the 1st part of the install to finish and could upload the save. It said trophies would auto pop when ps5 version installed.

devnull · 25-12-2021 1:03pm

Just got to the Honeybee Inn last night,

Don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't got there yet, but it's much expanded in the original and changed the story around a fair bit to include some new characters and the place is a little different now. Gotta say I laughed out loud a few times during it!

Randomfriend · 31-12-2021 4:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118372077#Comment_118372077

I love how the handled Wall Market and everything that goes on there. I've platniumed and played through the whole game numerous times at this stage, loving the ps5 upgrade too. Nostalgia is a drug I can't get enough of

Zero-Cool · 31-12-2021 4:55pm

Have to say, i thought the Intermission dlc was quite poor, not worth 15, never mind 20. Yuffie is brilliant and her combat is okay but only playing as her became a bit boring and really felt the waves and waves of enemies. K tuned out of the story by the climax but then to see how there was an extra ending for the base game tucked away with this dlc was an awful choice. I could be wrong and maybe it's been added to the base game ending as well but to bridge the next game, shouldn't be hidden behind a dlc.

The dlc just made me wish i was playing the base game instead which had much more interesting and varied combat.

devnull · 31-12-2021 5:34pm

How do you actually access the Intermission DLC on the Epic version? It's not hiding anywhere that is obvious on the title screen of the game.

I've literally just finished chapter 17 this afternoon and I have to say that the motorcycle boss went on for far too long compared to the original game. Fighting a boss that way made it different, but was the closest I got to getting game over.

Looks like no way to save between the final two bosses in Chapter 18, so will give that a go over the coming days when I have a bit more time as those bosses seem to have a fair few phases.

devnull · 02-01-2022 7:37pm

Finished the game tonight, didn't find the last two bosses too hard really, but then again I'd been purposely building my characters to perform certain roles.

Overall thoughts are great game, really enjoyed it and the last chapter has some stunning visuals and atmosphere and some nice post last battle scenes. However the price that they are charging for it on the Epic Games Store is vastly overpriced for what isn't a massively long game.

Now let's see how good Yuffie's quest is.

Randomfriend · 03-01-2022 5:36pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118406969#Comment_118406969

Hard mode is where the magic happens! A second playthrough can feel very rewarding as you get to grips with the spike in difficulty, managing your MP and dealing without items in general.

RedXIV · 05-01-2022 10:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118411289#Comment_118411289

Agreed, I really appreciated the game mechanics a lot more in hard mode and you can skip past the fluff bits too now that you've already seen them :D

Randomfriend · 06-01-2022 1:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118423722#Comment_118423722

The late/post game VR stuff as well really pushes you to actually know what you're doing, The Weiss fight was ridiculous until I figured out what I was supposed to be doing, seeing people upload videos, beating him in well under a minute is madness :D

The battle mechanics are my favourite of any FF, and I wanted the game to still be turn based initially, but all things considered what they came up with is very cool.

Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

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