iOS 13 - Developer, public beta and official release

faceman · 20-09-2019 2:44pm

Some nice new touches in 13. I like how you now hide toolbar and change font size in browser.

Dark mode does need work though

KBurke85 · 20-09-2019 2:44pm

awec wrote: »

Used the new car play for the first time today.

The new home screen will only work with Apple Maps, which means it’s absolutely useless.

Other than that it’s ok. The layout of now playing is a bit better, and there’s a calendar.

Google Maps should work probably need an update for Google Maps to make it work with IOS13

faceman · 20-09-2019 3:00pm

Is it possible to turn off dark mode on an app by app basis? Apple maps is terrible in dark mode.

What Username Guidelines · 20-09-2019 3:48pm

Was surprised to see my SE got the update, nice having the new faux-3D-touch. Funny how even on the small screen, multi-orientation is supported too. Can use mail upside down for some reason

shanec1928 wrote: »

anyone else with a series one or two apple watch find since upgrading your phone to ios13 that notifications now come in first on the phone and a delay on the watch?

I've a series 3 and it was happening this morning. I restarted both watch and phone and it seems to have fixed it.

awec · 20-09-2019 4:40pm

KBurke85 wrote: »

Google Maps should work probably need an update for Google Maps to make it work with IOS13

Google Maps, as an app, works fine, exact same as before.

But the home screen on carplay now shows like widgets. The right hand side of the screen is a map, the bottom left is now playing (play/pause, forward and back buttons) and the top left a list of destinations to go.

This map, and the locations, are both Apple Maps and cannot be configured (that I can find anyway) to any other map provider. Which means it's absolute garbage and makes the whole home screen pointless.

DubDJ · 20-09-2019 5:03pm

Having used it for nearly a day now I can say I’m really liking it. Normally these ‘performance improvements’ aren’t that noticeable but these really are. FaceID is noticeably faster for me, not sure if they’ve sped up animation or not but it’s deffo noticeable.

Overall I’ve found it to be very stable. No app crashes or major bugs. Mail seems to be the worst and it’s only one or two minor UI things that aren’t a big issue for me. Dark mode and swipe are nice. App updates such as Activity, Health, Photos etc are all welcome too.

I reset the iPhone and updated to start with a fresh install of iOS so it probably helped with the overall smoothness of the update.

One thing I’ve avoid is upgrading to the newer iCloud sync with the Reminders app, until the macOS update is out. Overall another solid update.

Itssoeasy · 20-09-2019 5:51pm

Where they’ve put the app updates in the App Store is just a matter of getting used to it. Once I found where it had been put it’s grand actually.

20-09-2019 9:28pm

faceman wrote: »

Always found multitasking something that sounds good but is unnecessary on a phone.

It’s a dream on an iPad though.

20-09-2019 9:29pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Where they’ve put the app updates in the App Store is just a matter of getting used to it. Once I found where it had been put it’s grand actually.

Yeah do it a couple of times and you know exactly where to go again.

awec · 21-09-2019 9:19am

The swipe keyboard is good, but they have some improvements to do in the autocorrect department.

21-09-2019 10:43am

One issue I have seen repeatedly is the Siri Shortcut for Google Assistant vanishing. I’ve had to re-add it 3 or 4 times at this stage, though I’m not sure if it’s a system or app issue.

notahappycamper · 21-09-2019 12:54pm

Anyone know is there a quicker workaround for getting to the UK App Store than having to change your billing information each time? Before, you could just sign out and sign in with your UK store Apple ID.

EDIT: I found it. When you click on the App Store click on your profile in the top right corner, scroll to the bottom and sign out, then sign in using your Apple ID for the App Store Country that you have created.

jack presley · 21-09-2019 1:18pm

My watch notifications don't seem to be working properly since updating to 13. Watch software updated to 6.0 too so the problem could be there. All settings set the same as before.

murpho999 · 21-09-2019 5:09pm

Update is not showing for me when I go to software update. Have restarted phone but no joy,

Any ideas?

eeloe · 21-09-2019 5:13pm

what phone are you using?

It should be 100% showing for everyone by now.

Marty Bird · 21-09-2019 5:16pm

Not showing for me either on the iPad

jack presley · 21-09-2019 5:21pm

Marty Bird wrote: »

Not showing for me either on the iPad

Ipad OS isn't out until the 30th.

murpho999 · 21-09-2019 5:26pm

eeloe wrote: »

what phone are you using?

It should be 100% showing for everyone by now.

Iphone 8 plus.

Resolved: I had an iOS 12 beta profile installed . Removed that and iOS 13 came up. Installing now.

eeloe · 21-09-2019 5:27pm

Very strange....are you on an old ios 12 beta profile or anything that could be blocking the download?

DubDJ · 21-09-2019 6:24pm

Have to say I really don’t like the new Music app’s Now Playing screen. Having the song queue below the page was handy. Bringing up the song queue now with the button removes the tracking bar for skipping ahead in the song. So you have to keep showing and hiding it.

Also, the “Add to library” and “like and dislike” options are buried in the menu, with the latter at the end so you have to scroll.

Really enjoying the rest of the update but the music playing screen is a big step back from a usability point of view.

murpho999 · 21-09-2019 7:26pm

DubDJ wrote: »

Have to say I really don’t like the new Music app’s Now Playing screen. Having the song queue below the page was handy. Bringing up the song queue now with the button removes the tracking bar for skipping ahead in the song. So you have to keep showing and hiding it.

Also, the “Add to library” and “like and dislike” options are buried in the menu, with the latter at the end so you have to scroll.

Really enjoying the rest of the update but the music playing screen is a big step back from a usability point of view.

If you scroll to the bottom and select edit actions you can remove and add functions as well as change their order so that should solve your problem.

I think it's handy now.

What Username Guidelines · 21-09-2019 7:27pm

DubDJ wrote: »

Have to say I really don’t like the new Music app’s Now Playing screen. Having the song queue below the page was handy. Bringing up the song queue now with the button removes the tracking bar for skipping ahead in the song. So you have to keep showing and hiding it.

Also, the “Add to library” and “like and dislike” options are buried in the menu, with the latter at the end so you have to scroll.

Really enjoying the rest of the update but the music playing screen is a big step back from a usability point of view.

I don’t use Apple Music but noticed the same issues in mail. The screen looks simpler but all options except reply and delete are hidden in menus. Hopefully they’ll track what people are using and improve in next few versions.

Sad Professor · 21-09-2019 9:11pm

Overall I think the Music app changes are an improvement. The old Now Playing panel was confusing.

The text selection is miles better! Good summary of the changes at the link below, but even just moving the insertion point around is much improved.

https://www.cultofmac.com/633080/how-to-use-the-amazing-new-text-tools-in-ipados/

pad199207 · 22-09-2019 12:34am

Anybody noticing battery increase or decrease on their particular iPhone?

DubDJ · 22-09-2019 2:37am

One thing I noticed is the new lyrics feature in the music app seems to have serious performance issues. Tried it out yesterday with a song, the phone got really warm and the battery dropped from 20% to 12% after one song.

Definitely needs work to reduce battery load. Cool feature otherwise.

jack presley · 22-09-2019 1:34pm

pad199207 wrote: »

Anybody noticing battery increase or decrease on their particular iPhone?

Yeah, my 8 is gobbling power since the update. I think this is normal though as the apps get used to the new OS. It should sort it self to in a few days (hopefully)

bot43 · 22-09-2019 2:28pm

I saw it mentioned that VPN’s are not working on this release. Can anyone confirm this?

pad199207 · 22-09-2019 2:29pm

jack presley wrote: »

Yeah, my 8 is gobbling power since the update. I think this is normal though as the apps get used to the new OS. It should sort it self to in a few days (hopefully)

Yup have the iPhone 8 aswell I actually meant to say

jack presley · 22-09-2019 2:39pm

bot43 wrote: »

I saw it mentioned that VPN’s are not working on this release. Can anyone confirm this?

Mine (Witopia) is working fine.

duridian · 22-09-2019 3:33pm

bot43 wrote: »

I saw it mentioned that VPN’s are not working on this release. Can anyone confirm this?

Freedome VPN is working fine on my iPhone 7 with iOS 13. Must be just certain, VPN providers who are having problems, rather than a general issue affecting all.

DubDJ · 22-09-2019 3:43pm

bot43 wrote: »

I saw it mentioned that VPN’s are not working on this release. Can anyone confirm this?

Working with no issues on NordVPN also. I have it setup manually through the settings app though, not sure if the Nord App is working.

Sad Professor · 22-09-2019 3:50pm

iCloud syncing with Apple Notes is borked. Maybe Catalina or 13.1 will fix it but Apple should really warn users when releasing software that's not fully functional or compatible with their own cloud service. I have been repeatedly burned by this over the years. iCloud is 7 years old yet Apple they treat it like it's in beta.

notahappycamper · 22-09-2019 6:26pm

I notice the handoff between my iPhone XS Max. and iPad (Air 1) is off i.e. the tabs on what I was viewing on my iPhone in Safari are not on my iPad and vice versa.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Gumbo · 22-09-2019 10:42pm

pad199207 wrote: »

Anybody noticing battery increase or decrease on their particular iPhone?

I’m noticing an increase in battery use in my X.

Sonics2k · 22-09-2019 10:51pm

About the same battery life on my XR, maybe a little bit less.

I have noticed less notifications being pushed to my Watch since the update, and a some hassle with the car Bluetooth which wasn't there before.

gmacww · 23-09-2019 8:24am

To be honest I'm thinking of rolling back to iOS 12. iPhone 7 and here are my gripes...

3D Touch: Give it back to me please! I used it a lot and this take on it (I know the reasons) is just crap. I want my 3D Touch back!

Safari: I hate the new font choice. Bolder fonts for favourites page and the lower icons with a heavier line just don't look as slick as they used to.

Contacts: Every time I open it, it seems to open on the last used contact. No matter if I go back to full list and fully close out the app when I open it back it's open on the contact that I last used. That should have been caught in basic testing.

Bluetooth: I have big issues now connecting to the car now. Never an issue with v12 but v13 it just won't connect at all. Remove the car from the phone, remove the device from the car eventually got it re-connected but keeps dropping out.

Navigation: Was using it yesterday but for some reason apple maps while navagating is not keeping the screen on so I had to keep periodically touching the screen to keep the navigation on.

Personal: Now this is a purely personal issue and some may prefer this. I think the extra visuals look quite cheap and very android manufacture lay overs. Not slick clean apple like. Flick the silence switch and you get the silence on / off notice. The volume one though really annoys me. You use the volume buttons and you get a volume bar but then it resizes. Just not clean.

On the battery side I've noticed a slight increase in battery usage but I'm putting that down to me playing with it more to see all the hidden features. Will settle I imagine after a day or so.

DubDJ · 23-09-2019 9:11am

Agree with those first two. 3D Touch was something I used regularly and miss it. The fact Apple removed it from phones that actually have the hardware support is annoying too. Basically, if you’re using an iPhone 6s at the moment, Apple just removed the flagship feature of that phone which is anti-consumer and I’m surprised the tech sites aren’t mentioning it.

I agree also that the new Safari fonts look a bit strange. Think they should roll back to a standard don’t weight for website titles at least.

Other than that I can’t say I’ve had any Bluetooth problems and I remove the contacts app so can’t say I have any issues there either.

The update could definitely use some work, it’s only really the Mail app that’s been buggy and I’ve actually had an app crash with it too, which is something that rarely ever happens to me. Can’t remember the last time an app crashed on iOS for me.

There are just UI elements that feel wrong, maybe it’s a personal preference. The music app ate through a large chunk of battery for me while using the lyrics feature too but trying it again seemed fine so not sure if there was an issue there or not.

Overall, I hope the 13.1 update tomorrow fixes things.

awec · 23-09-2019 9:28am

Battery definitely worse on my X as well.

Didn't even know 3d touch was gone.

pad199207 · 23-09-2019 11:38am

Yeah have to agree with the user above. Very android feel to it, therefore not very impressive looking or as slick as iOS usually is.

Andrew76 · 23-09-2019 1:00pm

gmacww wrote: »

To be honest I'm thinking of rolling back to iOS 12. iPhone 7 and here are my gripes...

Is rolling back something that's easy to do? And is it possible to stay off iOS 13 or will older phones be forced to update at some point?

Vudgie · 23-09-2019 4:08pm

I'm finding IOS 13 pretty glitchy...I am getting very few notifications to my watch.

I was most looking froward to the changes to apple car play but as someone already said you can only use apple maps with the spit screen. Apple maps seems to be getting worse to me...its estimates are way off, it regularly tries to send me down one way streets or to take turns that are prohibited...irritating that you can't use third party maps on this page.

awec · 23-09-2019 4:52pm

Vudgie wrote: »

I'm finding IOS 13 pretty glitchy...I am getting very few notifications to my watch.

I was most looking froward to the changes to apple car play but as someone already said you can only use apple maps with the spit screen. Apple maps seems to be getting worse to me...its estimates are way off, it regularly tries to send me down one way streets or to take turns that are prohibited...irritating that you can't use third party maps on this page.

Apple Maps is as least half a decade behind Google in terms of accuracy. It's hopelessly poor.

I really hope they open up the split view to other maps, but I doubt it and reckon they'll try force people on to Apple Maps with it. It won't work though, Apple Maps is just too bad and people will instead just not use the feature.

Sonics2k · 23-09-2019 5:03pm

Vudgie wrote: »

I'm finding IOS 13 pretty glitchy...I am getting very few notifications to my watch.

I was most looking froward to the changes to apple car play but as someone already said you can only use apple maps with the spit screen. Apple maps seems to be getting worse to me...its estimates are way off, it regularly tries to send me down one way streets or to take turns that are prohibited...irritating that you can't use third party maps on this page.

Exactly the same for me with notifications on my watch. Calls and messages are fine, but any 3rd party app isn't showing.

pad199207 · 23-09-2019 6:48pm

Yep iPhone 8 battery has gone to ****. At first I thought I was just being picky but it definitely has had a big impact on it.

Raging I updated to 13 now

DelBoy Trotter · 23-09-2019 10:49pm

pad199207 wrote: »

Yep iPhone 8 battery has gone to ****. At first I thought I was just being picky but it definitely has had a big impact on it.

Raging I updated to 13 now

I’ve an iPhone 8 and I’m not seeing much difference in battery life

MillField · 24-09-2019 8:46am

DelBoy Trotter wrote: »

I’ve an iPhone 8 and I’m not seeing much difference in battery life

Same, and 3D Touch still works.

gmacww · 24-09-2019 8:59am

On the battery life that's likely the indexing kicking in. When you install iOS 13 it takes a while to reindex your phone and it chews up pretty much all the processor while doing that and does drain the batter quickly. Once complete restart the phone and you should be back to normal batter usage.

MillField wrote: »

Same, and 3D Touch still works.

No what they've done is altered the long touch to in a way emulate 3D touch only without and additional functionality. It's now a standardized long touch haptic menu. You can really notice it in safari and messages. The press and pop feature for images for example is now gone as there is no code in iOS anymore to use the pressure touch screen.

On top of my post yesterday this release really feels like it's still in beta. It's very buggy. Safari is just not stable enough and the websites regularly load up behind the task bar and that. The mail app provides me a notification of a new email but I have to manually refresh the inbox in order to get it. Overall stability of apps and the os itself just seems very beta esque and not finished.

I'll hold off for 13.1 today and see if that improves anything before rolling back to 12.

MillField · 24-09-2019 9:30am

gmacww wrote: »

No what they've done is altered the long touch to in a way emulate 3D touch only without and additional functionality. It's now a standardized long touch haptic menu. You can really notice it in safari and messages. The press and pop feature for images for example is now gone as there is no code in iOS anymore to use the pressure touch screen.

Yep, they've done that, but 3D Touch also still works. I can long press photos, links, icons etc and the new haptic touch triggers, but I can also 3D Touch just like I could on iOS 12 and it instantly works.

lee_baby_simms · 24-09-2019 9:56am

I'm experiencing random bluetooth disconnects several times a day across different bluetooth devices. Not sure if its iPhone 11 or iOS 13 related. Hopefully its the latter.

DubDJ · 24-09-2019 6:27pm

iOS 13.1 now available. As well as this, iPadOS is now officially released as well as tvOS 13.

iOS 13 - Developer, public beta and official release

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