Deferred State Exams 2020 [SEE MOD NOTE POST #1]

CWF · 13-04-2020 10:09am

rainbowtrout wrote: »

That isn't what was proposed. It was proposed that practical exams take place as part of the main exam timetable in August, so Art, Engineering, Construction, Ag Science would fit in there. My guess is that because there is always a two week window to complete these practicals in May, that similar would happen in August. So a school's construction practical would take place on the day that no construction student has a particular subject, e.g. Home Economics, given that we are led to believe that there will be only one written exam per day.

That would work, the biggest issue there would be the need for practical examiners to assess around the country, as they wouldn't be available to supervise exams. I presume this is why they want the examiners who usually supervise JC to be used.

It was my understanding that the LC Practicals would take place in that two week period

rainbowtrout · 13-04-2020 10:10am

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Tbh I think this is a court case waiting to happen and I do not see why the minister has taken this stance. Music and Home ec get 100%. But just because I picked technology I had to do an extra exam on top of my subjects on top of all the stress of moving the leaving cert. this is fundamentally unfair and I underperformed as a result....

Ya I'm actually surprised that they are currently making provision for the practicals on that basis. I was expecting all practicals to be cancelled and awarded the marks on Friday in the announcement. It would have levelled the playing field to a large extent and removed a massive headache in getting all practical work, booklets and assessments done. Might happen yet.

rainbowtrout · 13-04-2020 10:12am

CWF wrote: »

It was my understanding that the LC Practicals would take place in that two week period

https://www.examinations.ie/misc-doc/EN-EX-59606118.pdf

Practical tests in Art, Engineering and Construction studies due to commence on 27th April and
the oral and practical performance tests in the Leaving Certificate Applied programme due to
take place in May, will now be rescheduled for the July/August period

History Queen · 13-04-2020 10:21am

kippy wrote: »

Very disruptive? Relative to what's going on at the moment it's not gonna effect them and sure in normal times isn't this a regular enough occurance?

That's what I'm thinking... I mean I'm due to go on Maternity leave the end of July. Regardless of what is being asked of us a sub will have to be brought in for me for any teaching days after I start leave. Not ideal obviously but can't be helped.

ascophyllum · 13-04-2020 10:22am

My thoughts on this:

Every solution to the current situation has problems. In my opinion, predicted grades brings fewer problems than the other options.

In mid-March when we closed up, it seemed quite possible that we'd be open by May. Now that seems unthinkable. There's a good chance that as we approach the end of June, opening in July will similarly seem unthinkable and unattractive. If that is the case, the Dept/State Exams will have to resort to predictive grades. Except now, schools are closed, it will have been almost 4 months since we have seen our students, some contracts will have ended, and there is less time to handle appeals and organise exams for those who cannot access predicted grades (students studying a subject e.g. a language, outside of a class).

If opening in July is feasible there are many families of students who may not be keen to send their teenager into a group environment if there are older/immunocompromised people at home. If their parents are nurses/doctors, it may not be wise to send in their students to a busy school, given the amount of infection in HCWs.

There are also many teachers, especially 50+ who would be nervous to approach groups of teenagers so soon.

I would guess the median age of exam superintendents is 50+, given what I've seen in the last few years (retired teachers who get the contract each year). I doubt many will see spending 5/6 hours a day with a group in a room as being worth the money. I apply (and don't get it) every single year, I could do with the money, but not a chance will I sign up for sitting in a confined space with groups of people for days on end this summer. They will also need more superintendents this summer for extra centres(could use the JC ones I guess).

Regular colds and coughs haven't gone away, if a student has even the slightest of symptoms they cannot show for July school or exams. What then? Even if they have a negative test result, students will not sit in a room for 3 hours with a person coughing.

Giving over a chunk of the new school year to 15 year olds attempting to answer exam questions on material they haven't studied since May (or March!) is a whole other post! The JCT seem to be adamant assessment tasks will also have to be completed. Non-stop exams until November?

There are problems with predicted grades, however I think there are fewer than with delayed exams. I would be happy to give predicted grades; I have enough assessment results on paper from the last year to back up any grades I give out. A clear set of guidelines that explicitly prohibits canvassing (phonecalls from parents demanding a H1), an appeal process that allows the students to sit a paper if they feel they have been wronged (very few students = easier to accomodate) and a lot less stress for thousands of people.

Msbookeeper · 13-04-2020 10:28am

Thanks everyone for the input, my sub is local to the area of the school so hopefully he can carry on without any hassle.

History Queen · 13-04-2020 10:32am

Msbookeeper wrote: »

Thanks everyone for the input, my sub is local to the area of the school so hopefully he can carry on without any hassle.

Would you be applying for unpaid leave then? Again I've only my own experience to compare to but unless you're on approved/unpaid leave surely a sub won't be paid to teach your classes?

deiseindublin · 13-04-2020 10:34am

I presume that you will be taking over class contact after 1st June with online teaching, and in school for some of July, as per agreement to be ironed out for all teachers on the payroll.

awny · 13-04-2020 10:38am

History Queen wrote: »

Would you be applying for unpaid leave then? Again I've only my own experience to compare to but unless you're on approved/unpaid leave surely a sub won't be paid to teach your classes?

My understanding is that this cannot be imposed on teachers so it’ll be voluntary. Do you think teachers with underlying health conditions or in other at risk groups should be docked pay or have to use sick leave/unpaid leave to be excused from something which involves working on their annual leave?

Millem · 13-04-2020 10:41am

awny wrote: »

My understanding is that this cannot be imposed on teachers so it’ll be voluntary. Do you think teachers with underlying health conditions or in other at risk groups should be docked pay or have to use sick leave/unpaid leave to be excused from something which involves working on their annual leave?

It is not annual leave.....they are school closures.

rainbowtrout · 13-04-2020 10:42am

awny wrote: »

My understanding is that this cannot be imposed on teachers so it’ll be voluntary. Do you think teachers with underlying health conditions or in other at risk groups should be docked pay or have to use sick leave/unpaid leave to be excused from something which involves working on their annual leave?

That maybe so, but the OP is under the impression that her sub can just continue her work. Whether she goes in to teach in July or not, is not really the issue here, she is being paid during the summer as she will be back from maternity leave and the sub is not employed any longer, the sub wouldn't get paid to do voluntary work so why would the sub work in July?

awny · 13-04-2020 10:44am

Millem wrote: »

It is not annual leave.....they are school closures.

Miller, you can check. We aren’t contracted to work July. Questions around 2 weeks in June. Not July.

Millem · 13-04-2020 10:47am

awny wrote: »

Miller, you can check. We aren’t contracted to work July. Questions around 2 weeks in June. Not July.

It is my understanding from the outcome of previous court cases (maternity leave and school closures).....with regard to annual leave, we are entitled to 20 days plus bank holidays.

awny · 13-04-2020 10:51am

Millem wrote: »

It is my understanding from the outcome of previous court cases (maternity leave and school closures).....with regard to annual leave, we are entitled to 20 days plus bank holidays.

That’s in relation to mat leave. That is why the dept had to consult with the unions. The unions can say no.

https://www.asti.ie/news/clarification-re-asti-and-state-exams-announcement/

You can read about 5 paragraphs done. The proposals cannot be enforced by the department.

Millem · 13-04-2020 10:52am

awny wrote: »

That’s in relation to mat leave. That is why the dept had to consult with the unions. The unions can say no.

Why would annual leave in relation to maternity leave be any different to annual leave in general?

awny · 13-04-2020 10:54am

Millem wrote: »

Why would annual leave in relation to maternity leave be any different to annual leave in general?

Here’s a link I just attached above.

https://www.asti.ie/news/clarification-re-asti-and-state-exams-announcement/

It cannot be enforced.

awny · 13-04-2020 10:55am

Millem wrote: »

Why would annual leave in relation to maternity leave be any different to annual leave in general?

The summer like you said is school
Closures but the teachers aren’t contacted to teacher during the school closures.

Millem · 13-04-2020 11:04am

awny wrote: »

Here’s a link I just attached above.

https://www.asti.ie/news/clarification-re-asti-and-state-exams-announcement/

It cannot be enforced.

I still don’t know how annual leave in general and annual leave on maternity leave are different.
If school closures are considered annual leave then all teachers are entitled to 18 weeks annual leave?

Anyway I don’t want to derail this thread.

Nobody knows what state we will be in by July/August.

History Queen · 13-04-2020 11:08am

awny wrote: »

My understanding is that this cannot be imposed on teachers so it’ll be voluntary. Do you think teachers with underlying health conditions or in other at risk groups should be docked pay or have to use sick leave/unpaid leave to be excused from something which involves working on their annual leave?

Oh I didn't realise it was voluntary and my own understanding is there is a difference between annual leave and school closure. Ie. We are entitled to 20 days annual leave and public holidays but are paid during school closuressuch as summer.holidays. the distinction came up the time they did away with adding school holidays missed to maternity leave. (I understand that was challenged by the INTO and they won but an appeal was lodgedby the Dept. I'm not sure what the status of that case is now).

Also I'm not advocating for one side or the other, none of this is fair. I just, having been a mat leave sub years ago, would assume that a subs contract would end at the end of approved leave as normal and that the teacher on leave would return as usual. I could be totally wrong. This is unprecedented after all.

o1s1n · 13-04-2020 11:12am

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Tbh I think this is a court case waiting to happen and I do not see why the minister has taken this stance. Music and Home ec get 100%. But just because I picked technology I had to do an extra exam on top of my subjects on top of all the stress of moving the leaving cert. this is fundamentally unfair and I underperformed as a result....

So if you picked music or home Ec you are now guaranteed 100% in the practical, whereas anyone else who picked another subject (ie Art, Engineering etc) is automatically going to get less as they've to sit a practical?

That's madness!

awny · 13-04-2020 11:13am

History Queen wrote: »

Oh I didn't realise it was voluntary and my own understanding is there is a difference between annual leave and school closure. Ie. We are entitled to 20 days annual leave and public holidays but are paid during school closuressuch as summer.holidays. the distinction came up the time they did away with adding school holidays missed to maternity leave. (I understand that was challenged by the INTO and they won but an appeal was lodgedby the Dept. I'm not sure what the status of that case is now).

Also I'm not advocating for one side or the other, none of this is fair. I just, having been a mat leave sub years ago, would assume that a subs contract would end at the end of approved leave as normal and that the teacher on leave would return as usual. I could be totally wrong. This is unprecedented after all.

Was just about to reply to Millem re the mat leave. A case was brought by the INTO in relation to the holidays in lieu for mat leave to the equality tribunal and won the case. The dept are appealing it. So I’d say the dept are on shaky ground with this whole school closures/annual leave malarkey.

https://www.into.ie/2019/11/07/employment-tribunal-victory-for-into-members/

Yep I agree re subs contract but I’d imagine that the department is going to have to put some plan in place for it.

History Queen · 13-04-2020 11:15am

rainbowtrout wrote: »

That maybe so, but the OP is under the impression that her sub can just continue her work. Whether she goes in to teach in July or not, is not really the issue here, she is being paid during the summer as she will be back from maternity leave and the sub is not employed any longer, the sub wouldn't get paid to do voluntary work so why would the sub work in July?

This would be my understanding too, particularly if the workis voluntary. You cannot expect subs to work unpaid. The rest of us will be on payroll. Does makeme wonder what would happen if this coincides with the start of my own maternity leave. I'm due to go on leave in July. I'll stay as long as I can but you're required to go on leave 2weeks prior to your due date.

History Queen · 13-04-2020 11:17am

Sorry just to add for the Op, your union would probably be best placed to advise or at least to enquire onyour behalf. I'd contact them if I were you.

Millem · 13-04-2020 11:19am

awny wrote: »

Was just about to reply to Millem re the mat leave. A case was brought by the INTO in relation to the holidays in lieu for mat leave to the equality tribunal and won the case. The dept are appealing it. So I’d say the dept are on shaky ground with this whole school closures/annual leave malarkey.

https://www.into.ie/2019/11/07/employment-tribunal-victory-for-into-members/

Yep I agree re subs contract but I’d imagine that the department is going to have to put some plan in place for it.

But yet nothing has changed in relation to maternity leave.....I am due myself at the end of August.

awny · 13-04-2020 11:20am

Millem wrote: »

But yet nothing has changed in relation to maternity leave.....I am due myself at the end of August.

Me too, I’m in the end of Sept. I’d imagine it was wrong what they did and it’ll eventually be rectified.

Millem · 13-04-2020 11:22am

awny wrote: »

Me too, I’m in the end of Sept. I’d imagine it was wrong what they did and it’ll eventually be rectified.

Wouldn’t hold me breath.......this is going on 7 year...I will have had 3 babies in this time.

JJJackal · 13-04-2020 11:29am

awny wrote: »

My understanding is that this cannot be imposed on teachers so it’ll be voluntary. Do you think teachers with underlying health conditions or in other at risk groups should be docked pay or have to use sick leave/unpaid leave to be excused from something which involves working on their annual leave?

Yes.

In the HSE most annual leave is cancelled. Those at risk have to work in often high risk situations.

Teaching students in a class room is likely a low risk situation

awny · 13-04-2020 11:50am

JJJackal wrote: »

Yes.

In the HSE most annual leave is cancelled. Those at risk have to work in often high risk situations.

Teaching students in a class room is likely a low risk situation

You’ll also note the health workers in at risk groups are not being put into
High risk situations. I know a doctor who is pregnant and is not dealing with Covid patients. They are working with other non Covid patients.

Also, unless you’re a professor of public health, I don’t think you can define it as low risk. If it was low risk all schools and all students would be back.

TheDriver · 13-04-2020 11:55am

I'm setting up this thread as the one stop shop for all discusion about the state exams, preparing for these exams and the format this may take. Discussion can also take place about Mat leave contracts and factual information regarding these.

Usual forum rules also apply. See post #1

Dickie10 · 13-04-2020 12:53pm

to be honest i think the LC will be pushed back to near christmas. I dont think we will be back in school in september for the new school year, more likely january 21. people talking about pubs and restaurants not opening until december 2020.

TheDriver · 13-04-2020 1:01pm

Dickie10 wrote: »

to be honest i think the LC will be pushed back to near christmas. I dont think we will be back in school in september for the new school year, more likely january 21. people talking about pubs and restaurants not opening until december 2020.

I think this is key to the issues out there, "people talking" is happening a lot which unfortunately is nothing more than speculation. Even the CMO wouldn't bet on anything but the next 2 weeks will tell a lot.
If things are closed until Dec 2020, the LC will be a very small thing to be worrying about.

km79 · 13-04-2020 1:02pm

I would urge all asti members to contact their local SC rep and make their feelings known
I know we are on holidays but this has to be called out for the mess that it is
And is affecting both student AND teacher wellbeing

CraftySue · 13-04-2020 1:07pm

Dickie10 wrote: »

to be honest i think the LC will be pushed back to near christmas. I dont think we will be back in school in september for the new school year, more likely january 21. people talking about pubs and restaurants not opening until december 2020.

I guess we will be watching other countries for the next couple of weeks, especially Denmark, who are coming out of their lockdown by opening schools.

https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2020/0413/1130187-spain-cautiously-emerges-from-economic-hibernation/
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0413/1130077-lockdown-exit-austria-and-denmark-take-first-steps/

happywithlife · 13-04-2020 2:44pm

Just a subject specific bug bear but there are NO leaving cert home economics practicals outstanding. Leaving Cert Home Ec coursework was submitted Nov 2019 & corrected then. I do believe even the minister referred to home ec practicals in the context of leaving certs and it's not entirely confidence inspiring is it. I presume marks awarded then will stand and they won't get full marks like what happened to Orals.

Leaving Cert Applied HCT (Hotel Catering & Tourism) practicals are outstanding as should have taken place in May. I presume these are what are being referred to. I don't have HCT currently but had it in the past. If the current proposal is to prep students for both practical & written exams in their 2 weeks contact in June/July its completly unworkable.

On Another note anyone wondering what happens to students who traditionally are offered places in other further education institutions prior to traditional exams? Were these places offered yet? I'm thinking not but just in case they were would such students even turn up for exams then?

km79 · 13-04-2020 3:02pm

km79 wrote: »

I would urge all asti members to contact their local SC rep and make their feelings known
I know we are on holidays but this has to be called out for the mess that it is
And is affecting both student AND teacher wellbeing

Took me 45 minutes to articulate all my concerns and general grievances !

Rosita · 13-04-2020 3:31pm

JJJackal wrote: »

Yes.

In the HSE most annual leave is cancelled. Those at risk have to work in often high risk situations.

Teaching students in a class room is likely a low risk situation

I don't get the relevance of the amount of risk involved. The reason annual leave is cancelled for HSE workers (and I'll take your word on that) is that there is an extreme health emergency going on with very high numbers of infection and consequently high numbers in hospital and ICU. The high risk job v low risk job point you make is a red herring. Any imposition on teachers' holidays is not informed by the riskiness of the work.

rainbowtrout · 13-04-2020 3:50pm

happywithlife wrote: »

On Another note anyone wondering what happens to students who traditionally are offered places in other further education institutions prior to traditional exams? Were these places offered yet? I'm thinking not but just in case they were would such students even turn up for exams then?

PLCs??? There is no standardised entry requirements for PLCs. Some of the bigger centres who would be oversubscribed can pick and choose and use the LC to determine entry. Smaller centres will take applicants regardless of results if they need to fill courses etc.

If LC goes ahead as proposed, PLC centres might also have a delay to the start of the academic year anyway so could still use LC results for entry if they wanted. They can be a lot more flexible than most.

ethical · 13-04-2020 4:06pm

The Dept has thrown the WELLBEING card freely about for the past 3 or 4 years without it ever,ever doing anything for teachers.
Its time now that we threw it back in their faces! when I saw the "PROPOSALS" for the revised State Exams I honestly thought it was one of my friends that was playing an April Fools joke on me.
We all agree that the STUDENT is the most important person here,yet they are expected to study until 2nd September,yes ,the 2nd September when the revised LC finishes.

Could you imagine the MENTAL HEALTH TIMEBOMB the Dept has readied here,is it not difficult enough for the students to study until the end of June every year but now to get them to continue working through the Summer as well?

WELLBEING,what WELLBEING,are we being fair to the students?

(Can I add that I think the present Minister for Education is one of the more reasonable we've had in a long time,it would not be too difficult for him considering his predecesssor!, but I think the Media forced his hand to get some sort of announcement out before the Easter Weekend and this is the hotch-potch we are left with now.It is still in our hands to save the Students and make proper and calculated representations to the Union meeting tomorrow.I know the ASTI are meeting,I'm not sure about the other crowd with the carry on they've been up to of late.)

Millem · 13-04-2020 4:12pm

happywithlife wrote: »

Just a subject specific bug bear but there are NO leaving cert home economics practicals outstanding. Leaving Cert Home Ec coursework was submitted Nov 2019 & corrected then. I do believe even the minister referred to home ec practicals in the context of leaving certs and it's not entirely confidence inspiring is it. I presume marks awarded then will stand and they won't get full marks like what happened to Orals.

Leaving Cert Applied HCT (Hotel Catering & Tourism) practicals are outstanding as should have taken place in May. I presume these are what are being referred to. I don't have HCT currently but had it in the past. If the current proposal is to prep students for both practical & written exams in their 2 weeks contact in June/July its completly unworkable.

On Another note anyone wondering what happens to students who traditionally are offered places in other further education institutions prior to traditional exams? Were these places offered yet? I'm thinking not but just in case they were would such students even turn up for exams then?

Happy with life does the minister mean the textiles LC elective project?
Only a handful of schools in Ireland choose it.

Rosita · 13-04-2020 4:16pm

ethical wrote: »

The Dept has thrown the WELLBEING card freely about for the past 3 or 4 years without it ever,ever doing anything for teachers.

I remember one of these well-being training days where there was even a 'well-being tree' to put yellow post-its on every so often. Anyway, childish and patronising as that was you'd get over it.

The bit that irritated me was the occasional mention of "your own well-being" - yet no mention of maybe a half day for teachers' well-being where activities could be organised, or even permission to allocate a few Croke Park hours for teacher well-being. Looks like well-being for teachers has not yet cropped up in Finland or whichever country they are copying when they conjure up their ideas.

km79 · 13-04-2020 4:52pm

km79 wrote: »

Took me 45 minutes to articulate all my concerns and general grievances !

The response I received (I won’t be sharing it to be fair to the union rep who responded to me ) doesnt fill me with great confidence
Prepare to work in July would be my guess at the outcome

mirrorwall14 · 13-04-2020 5:13pm

I think there are two things out of all the stuff coming out that have incredibly annoyed me in their complete ignorance/unfairness.

The first is that some practicals got 100% and others are still hanging over students head. There is literally nothing more to say on this. It should not happen.

The second is the proposal for third years is insane. All of it. Completely unfair on 15 year olds to expect them to sit any sort of exams or assessment having been out of the classroom all the way to September. I think it is a total disgrace that any Minister for education would inflict this on students

km79 · 13-04-2020 5:19pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I think there are two things out of all the stuff coming out that have incredibly annoyed me in their complete ignorance/unfairness.

The first is that some practicals got 100% and others are still hanging over students head. There is literally nothing more to say on this. It should not happen.

The second is the proposal for third years is insane. All of it. Completely unfair on 15 year olds to expect them to sit any sort of exams or assessment having been out of the classroom all the way to September. I think it is a total disgrace that any Minister for education would inflict this on students

I made those two points
I expect both will eventually be rectified
And the payoff will be at least two weeks “classroom instruction “ in July . Possibly the whole month
And it won’t be voluntary

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 13-04-2020 5:32pm

Going on the TUI msg the SEC will probably have to look for volunteers to cover exams, if they go ahead at all. I doubt there will be any money to pay people to do it.

Classes in July also don't seem to be covered by contract so you'll do them if you want to, or if you feel there is a need to.

Some will be in a position to volunteer and some won't.

edit: behind it all, it's just hard to see how these exams will go ahead. Students or teachers with health conditions would be in a terrible position outside of the stress this is causing students in general

r93kaey5p2izun · 13-04-2020 5:39pm

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Going on the TUI msg the SEC will probably have to look for volunteers to cover exams, if they go ahead at all. I doubt there will be any money to pay people to do it.

I see/hear nothing in the TUI message implying the need for volunteers in an unpaid sense. What in the message made you think that is likely?

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 13-04-2020 5:45pm

Chaya Fresh Shoehorn wrote: »

I see/hear nothing in the TUI message implying the need for volunteers in an unpaid sense. What in the message made you think that is likely?

"Then the LC exams will begin. The superintending and marking of the exams is SEC work, and those who wish to carry out this work will do so under contract to the SEC."

It's not part of your job, the SEC is a separate entity, so you'd have to engage separately with them as a volunteer I'd assume.

I would assume unpaid as the country wouldn't be able to afford money for that number of people. Or public perception wud be teachers getting paid overtime in current climate regardless of whether nurses or guards are claiming overtime at the moment.

r93kaey5p2izun · 13-04-2020 5:50pm

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

"Then the LC exams will begin. The superintending and marking of the exams is SEC work, and those who wish to carry out this work will do so under contract to the SEC."

It's not part of your job, the SEC is a separate entity, so you'd have to engage separately with them as a volunteer I'd assume.

I would assume unpaid as the country wouldn't be able to afford money to that number of people. Or public perception wud be teachers getting paid overtime in current climate regardless of whether nurses or guards are claiming overtime at the moment.

I'm with you on their implying it will remain voluntary as it always has been. I don't think the second part necessarily follows though. I was just confused how the TUI statement led you think anything like that, since they basically just said SEC will contract staff as normal.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 13-04-2020 5:53pm

Chaya Fresh Shoehorn wrote: »

I'm with you on their implying it will remain voluntary as it always has been. I don't think the second part necessarily follows though. I was just confused how the TUI statement led you think anything like that, since they basically just said SEC will contract staff as normal.

They didn't say as normal tho, just that your contract for exams is with the SEC. I don't see them paying the increased number of supervisors, over a longer period than is usual, that will be needed in thole current climate. Just my impression of it, we all could be wrong.

r93kaey5p2izun · 13-04-2020 5:56pm

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

They didn't say as normal tho, just that your contract for exams is with the SEC. I don't see them paying the increased number of supervisors, over a longer period than is usual, that will be needed in thole current climate. Just my impression of it, we all could be wrong.

The TUI have said the intention is the JC supervisors will be used to accommodate the LC under the new circumstances. Not an increased number of supervisors, just both of the usual groups looking after the LC.

Jajadog · 13-04-2020 5:58pm

Does anyone know what might happen if a student becomes ill or suffers a bereavement in their Family during the exams? I know there was an option brought in to sit the exams in July ( under normal circumstances obviously) however my concern now would be that there may be quite a few students who will either get sick or suffer bereavements during the exams in July/ August considering the situation we’re in. Has the minister made any reference to that potential cohort does anyone know?

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