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AEW - All Elite Wrestling (*Spoilers for Latest Show*)

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    #1562
    sirmanga
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    If the Mox Omega match was unsanctioned, why did we see it? Shouldn't the PPV have just gone off the air after the Cody Jericho match?
    Unsanctioned matches are ridiculous. At least WWE have started using the whole "the wrestlers have signed a hold harmless agreement" thing. That makes sense as to why the match is actually on the show.

    The main event to Full Gear was Moxley vs Omega, end of. It reminds me of Shawn Michaels trying to claim that his retirement was actually at Mania 26 against Undertaker. That the Saudi match was not really a proper match. Sorry, Shawn, but you ruined your retirement. And sorry, AEW, but your championship title match was not the main event of your PPV.


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    #1563
    sky88
    Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    the mox/omega feud wasnt to the point of needing this match they should always be an ending to afeud were a normal match is just not enough and the feud has escalated beyond that. its a big thing i have a problem with in wrestling were gimmick matches are being used at the points there not needed just look at hell in a cell its used for a ppv not to end a feud.

    I think aew are using these lights out matches to avoid having the match matter to the win/loss record and the fact moxley had 2 of these already is stupid more so the Janela one as at least hes feuding with kenny

    one of the things ive always hated about unsanctioned is them ending in pins like it should really be a last man standing match type of thing were you have to incapacitate your opponent.


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    #1564
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    sky88 wrote: »
    the mox/omega feud wasnt to the point of needing this match they should always be an ending to afeud were a normal match is just not enough and the feud has escalated beyond that. its a big thing i have a problem with in wrestling were gimmick matches are being used at the points there not needed just look at hell in a cell its used for a ppv not to end a feud.

    I think aew are using these lights out matches to avoid having the match matter to the win/loss record and the fact moxley had 2 of these already is stupid more so the Janela one as at least hes feuding with kenny

    one of the things ive always hated about unsanctioned is them ending in pins like it should really be a last man standing match type of thing were you have to incapacitate your opponent.

    I'd agree. If they are unsantioned, why is there a referee out there? Doesn't make sense. Anyhow, i've not much problem with the concept outside of that.


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    #1565
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 28,795 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Not just that but it seems pins have to take place in the ring. I think any match that can go anywhere, should be allowed to be won anywhere


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    #1566
    Somedaythefire
    Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Somedaythefire


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    I'd agree. If they are unsantioned, why is there a referee out there? Doesn't make sense. Anyhow, i've not much problem with the concept outside of that.
    Ref is there to count the pin, record the submission.


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    #1567
    raven136
    Registered Users Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    sky88 wrote: »
    the mox/omega feud wasnt to the point of needing this match they should always be an ending to afeud were a normal match is just not enough and the feud has escalated beyond that. its a big thing i have a problem with in wrestling were gimmick matches are being used at the points there not needed just look at hell in a cell its used for a ppv not to end a feud.

    I think aew are using these lights out matches to avoid having the match matter to the win/loss record and the fact moxley had 2 of these already is stupid more so the Janela one as at least hes feuding with kenny

    one of the things ive always hated about unsanctioned is them ending in pins like it should really be a last man standing match type of thing were you have to incapacitate your opponent.

    Mox and Kenny been feuding for 7 months now

    Kenny ridiculing his run in Japan even

    If any feud was deserving of a match like this then it was this one


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    #1568
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Loved Mox/Omega, thought that was absolutely brilliant, one of the matches of the year for me so far.

    Cody/Jericho was great too, had a legitimate big-fight feel to it. Riho/Sakura was fantastic as well, maybe the best womens match so far in the company.

    All in all another excellent evening of pro wrestling from AEW.


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    #1569
    sky88
    Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    raven136 wrote: »
    Mox and Kenny been feuding for 7 months now

    Kenny ridiculing his run in Japan even

    If any feud was deserving of a match like this then it was this one

    And haven’t fought in a singles match yet

    I just don’t think the feud had hit that point yet

    Feuding for 7 months but only a month on tv bar a few ppvs and video packages not exactly a solid 7 month feud


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    #1570
    Monokne
    Registered Users Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭Monokne


    raven136 wrote: »
    Mox and Kenny been feuding for 7 months now

    Kenny ridiculing his run in Japan even

    If any feud was deserving of a match like this then it was this one

    Over what? I've watched every minute of of every AEW PPV, special, & episode of Dynamite. It has never been explained why Mox attacked Omega or what issue there is between them. What is the origin of the issue?


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    #1571
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 28,795 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Seeing Moxley pull back the ring mat to expose the boards brought back memories of the match on Impact where the boards kept slipping


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    #1572
    raven136
    Registered Users Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2860153-the-jon-moxley-vs-kenny-omega-feud-explained-ahead-of-aew-full-gear-ppv

    This sums it up for me

    Really enjoyed the build up, the video packages and the match was fantastic imo


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    #1573
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    sirmanga wrote: »
    If the Mox Omega match was unsanctioned, why did we see it? Shouldn't the PPV have just gone off the air after the Cody Jericho match?
    Unsanctioned matches are ridiculous.

    Unsanctioned in AEW is two-fold. Firstly, it means the company wash their hands of responsibility like in the Tony Khan/Mox backstage bit. Secondly, it means the result doesn't count towards win-loss record and therefore can be used to further storylines. Someone earlier said Moxley should be next for Jericho. He should... except his victory doesn't count. This will drive him more nuts and they can go a way where he's forced to tone it down or ramp it up out of spite. I think it's interesting.
    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    I'd agree. If they are unsantioned, why is there a referee out there? Doesn't make sense.

    I seem to remember a ref in a street fight/unsanctioned match wearing a polo rather than a shirt. May have been Drake Weurtz for Gargano vs Ciampa. Also had black gloves on. That was a nice touch.


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    #1574
    ThePott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,048 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Unsanctioned matches fall apart if you over analyse them too much really.
    I think the Gargano/Ciampa matches were unsanctioned but then they had a corporate sponsor.

    If you nitpick it there shouldn't be commentary, logos, graphics or even a venue to perform it in if AEW really wanted nothing to do with it but you have to take it as it is, as just another stipulation for showing how extreme and lawless it is.


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    #1575
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    Really enjoyed the show, and Dynamite each week is a breath of fresh air for weekly American tv wrestling.

    Two things that bugged me though was the cheap finishes in a couple of the matches. It's annoying just because AEW were so adamant when they launched that they would be a company with clean finishes and little shenanigans and yet 2 of the matches on their first ppv post tv had screwy finishes (Spears match and Jericho match). It just felt a bit too WWE.
    The crowd's in AEW set it apart from WWE too, they are loud, enthusiastic and into all elements of the show. Just bad luck that their first ppv post tv had easily the worst crowd they've ever had. The wrestling, by and large, and the stories being told were good, a hot crowd would have elevated the show to a higher level.


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    #1576
    OneEightSeven
    Registered Users Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    That unsanctioned match was just violence for the sake of violence. It's like something you'd see on CZW. It was too early into their feud to have a match like that because we don't know why they despise each other that much they want to brutalise one another.


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    #1577
    raven136
    Registered Users Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    OneEightSeven wrote: »
    That unsanctioned match was just violence for the sake of violence. It's like something you'd see on CZW. It was too early into their feud to have a match like that because we don't know why they despise each other that much they want to brutalise one another.

    That was nothing like a czw match at all

    There was barb wire etc but where was the mechanical knife cutting someone open I ask you..the weed whacker moment, the fall from a cage to concrete but most importantly WHERE WAS THE LIVE GRENADE


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    #1578
    Cherry_Cola
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    Actually in tears at this: https://twitter.com/Maffewgregg/status/1194234050661224454

    :pac:


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    #1579
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Middle aged, balding, fat schlub :pac: :pac: :pac:

    How did he not know that clearly was not Excalibur straight away.


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    #1580
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Love Cornette, that is absolute comedy gold hahaha.


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    #1581
    sky88
    Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Oh my god that is brilliant haha


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    #1582
    rizzla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭rizzla


    About half way though the latest episode of dynamite. Pretty bad so far, everything feels rushed.


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    #1583
    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    Jericho and MJF was the best segment in years.


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    #1584
    rizzla
    Registered Users Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭rizzla


    Second half much better. Jericho/MJF was great. Pac v Hangman, Young Bucks brawl and the main event were all very good.


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    #1585
    ConcertKing
    Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭ConcertKing


    https://youtu.be/K4OmilSFoxA

    Orange Cassidy bit is the funniest thing I seen in years!


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    #1586
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    ConcertKing wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/K4OmilSFoxA

    Orange Cassidy bit is the funniest thing I seen in years!

    I thought this was myself. Callin' for the big 450

    https://imgur.com/8yBTJ8w.mp4


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    #1587
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    Another really good episode I thought, the PAC/Page series has been excellent, PAC has to be considered amongst the best in the business at the moment.

    Jericho/MJF promo was excellent, didn't feel forced or fake at all like lots of in-ring promos. Loved the Juventud reference too.

    Great start and finish to the shows as well, feels like anything can happen. Mox squash and promo were really good, as was the main, great rub for Scorpio Sky getting the first pin over Jericho.


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    #1588
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 28,795 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Did they just call him Cody Rhodes?!


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    #1589
    Lithium93_
    Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Did they just call him Cody Rhodes?!

    Yes, yes they did.


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    #1590
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,286 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    JR said Swagger before Excalibur corrected him and said Hager then JR said yes Hager has Swagger.


    Great show MJF and Allin have IT in spades.


    Cody has said previously that he got the Rhodes name back and can use it if he wants but prefers to stick with just Cody for now.


    They have so many great story line options on the go which are simple story's but really completing.


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    #1591
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 16,981 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Excalibur is like a glitching AI that just randomly shouts wrestling moves from the [URL="the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling_attacks"]list on wikipedia.[/URL]


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