All Ireland League 2019-2020 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

FellasFellas · 25-06-2019 11:50am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

It isnt watched enough as standard isnt simply as high as some here are making it out to be.

I very much am. 20s league is being very overhyped. Its good standard but has major issues with a tiny number of clubs with far too many players dominating it. That isnt good for the sport

JP Fanagan Winners

Clontarf
LFC
LFC
DUFC
Terenure
Terenure
UCD
UCD

5 different winners in the past 8 years, I wouldnt call that dominated by a 'tiny number of clubs' sides.

D14Rugby · 25-06-2019 11:55am

FellasFellas wrote: »

JP Fanagan Winners

Clontarf
LFC
LFC
DUFC
Terenure
Terenure
UCD
UCD

5 different winners in the past 8 years, I wouldnt call that dominated by a 'tiny number of clubs' sides.

Throw in Navan winning the all Ireland competition a few years ago too and it's very competitive. Even just getting into the top division each year is competitive.

Chico Flores wrote: »

Any other words on player movement or is it all a bit early for that still?

Most clubs won't start back training until mid to end of next month and even then you have to allow for people being away on J1 and stuff so likely to be mid August before most transfers become known

The Lost Sheep · 25-06-2019 12:04pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

JP Fanagan Winners

Clontarf
LFC
LFC
DUFC
Terenure
Terenure
UCD
UCD

5 different winners in the past 8 years, I wouldnt call that dominated by a 'tiny number of clubs' sides.

And if you look in the years before that as well its the same few clubs. That is a tiny number of clubs.
Shortening 20s season and integrating players into adult sides would be far more beneficial in the long term

FellasFellas · 25-06-2019 12:08pm

I'll just say this, why would anyone want to go play as a young lad, straight out of school, go play for a 2ABC club, go up on these away days to get bashed up by some 35 year olds and rinse and repeat for 18 games?

Why would this player not instead, go and play for an U20 side, play a much more attractive brand of rugby with and against his friends more than likely, against the top U20 players in the province. The pace and skill level of these games is very high and yes, then these players can progress through the club upwards after their year or 2 at 20's - why would this institution of Leinster Rugby be suddenly abolished so that more lads can play in 2ABC or in Metro 5 on a Wednesday night? Lunacy.

Chico Flores · 25-06-2019 12:09pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

And if you look in the years before that as well its the same few clubs. That is a tiny number of clubs.
Shortening 20s season and integrating players into adult sides would be far more beneficial in the long term

But maybe lads don't want to integrate into senior sides and play at their level?

The tiered nature of the JP Fanagan covers off all levels and had about 30 teams in total playing last year (including Harry Gale etc). Of course not all games competitive but you get that in every code and level.

I saw above Navan mentioned, they won an All Ireland and then did a double promotion. Trinity won the All Ireland in 20s in 17/18 and then got to AIL semis.

I think even further on down, you have a Barnhall improving and winning 2 (I think) Premier 2s and then pushing into Premier 1 and getting promoted in the AIL. Old Wesley romped Premier 2 last year and have been outstanding in Junior Rugby

I think 20s in Dublin/Leinster is the only way to g about it

FellasFellas · 25-06-2019 12:09pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

And if you look in the years before that as well its the same few clubs. That is a tiny number of clubs.
Shortening 20s season and integrating players into adult sides would be far more beneficial in the long term

Oh well I'm sorry that the other clubs aren't good enough to win it, perhaps we should actually just withdraw these 5 clubs from this competition permanently and we can let the seconds sides from Bective U17's win it occasionally, just for a nice boost in morale.

Chico Flores · 25-06-2019 12:11pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

And if you look in the years before that as well its the same few clubs. That is a tiny number of clubs.
Shortening 20s season and integrating players into adult sides would be far more beneficial in the long term

Is that any different to the AIL though. Only Clontarf, Lansdowne and Cork Con have won it in the last 7 years?

The Lost Sheep · 25-06-2019 12:11pm

Chico Flores wrote: »

But maybe lads don't want to integrate into senior sides and play at their level?

The tiered nature of the JP Fanagan covers off all levels and had about 30 teams in total playing last year (including Harry Gale etc). Of course not all games competitive but you get that in every code and level.

I saw above Navan mentioned, they won an All Ireland and then did a double promotion. Trinity won the All Ireland in 20s in 17/18 and then got to AIL semis.

I think even further on down, you have a Barnhall improving and winning 2 (I think) Premier 2s and then pushing into Premier 1 and getting promoted in the AIL. Old Wesley romped Premier 2 last year and have been outstanding in Junior Rugby

I think 20s in Dublin/Leinster is the only way to g about it

You have to think about the medium and long term for a club. Guys at 20s have to be encouraged far more to integrate into the rest of the club as they wont be playing with the one side for the rest of their time playing rugby. 20s is final age grade.

The Lost Sheep · 25-06-2019 12:15pm

FellasFellas wrote: »

I'll just say this, why would anyone want to go play as a young lad, straight out of school, go play for a 2ABC club, go up on these away days to get bashed up by some 35 year olds and rinse and repeat for 18 games?

Why would this player not instead, go and play for an U20 side, play a much more attractive brand of rugby with and against his friends more than likely, against the top U20 players in the province. The pace and skill level of these games is very high and yes, then these players can progress through the club upwards after their year or 2 at 20's - why would this institution of Leinster Rugby be suddenly abolished so that more lads can play in 2ABC or in Metro 5 on a Wednesday night? Lunacy.

20s isnt always more attractive rugby. Faster but not more attractive. And 35 year olds bashing people up? Have you actually watched any division 2 rugby recently like that.
And why then are numbers still not progressing through to adult levels much more with this excellent system of standalone 20s sides with feck all connection to the open age sides in the club within that season?

Chico Flores · 25-06-2019 12:19pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

You have to think about the medium and long term for a club. Guys at 20s have to be encouraged far more to integrate into the rest of the club as they wont be playing with the one side for the rest of their time playing rugby. 20s is final age grade.

But who is to say that clubs aren't doing that and bringing them through.

Like these are adults, they can see the teams and facts in ahead of them. Intregrating 20s into a junior side isn't fair on anyone. If they are good enough then many of them play 1s anyway.

Im not sure your point, the drop off from 20s. That's natural in every sport. Lads settle down, travel whatever.

FellasFellas · 25-06-2019 12:28pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

20s isnt always more attractive rugby. Faster but not more attractive. And 35 year olds bashing people up? Have you actually watched any division 2 rugby recently like that.
And why then are numbers still not progressing through to adult levels much more with this excellent system of standalone 20s sides with feck all connection to the open age sides in the club within that season?

Yes I followed the AIL quite a lot this season and saw games live in all 5 divisions. How does Galweigans conceding 600 points in a season and being kept scoreless in 5 of 9 home games 'attractive'. Highfield were bigger and better than everyone this season just gone in 2A, and they just physically beat the living daylights out of everyone. If you dont think that the trade off as you go down the leagues is more physicality as a result of less talent then you are literally insane. We should maybe do a draft system and just chuck 50 teams into a hat and we'll see Con beat Seapoint 200-0 twice a season.

The Lost Sheep · 25-06-2019 12:31pm

Chico Flores wrote: »

But who is to say that clubs aren't doing that and bringing them through.

Like these are adults, they can see the teams and facts in ahead of them. Intregrating 20s into a junior side isn't fair on anyone. If they are good enough then many of them play 1s anyway.

Im not sure your point, the drop off from 20s. That's natural in every sport. Lads settle down, travel whatever.

So we should just accept it?
Integrating 20s into junior sides is more than fair enough.
Why just think about 1sts?
Thats the problem. What of the rest you need to expand beyond the few who may be able to progress while 19/20 years of age to the first team, Shorten the 20s season and get players involved in junior rugby competitions in some form. Get them playing in the leagues as well as the cups. Players then know the run of things within the clubs junior teams as in coaches, players involved. People here talk about 20s guys wanting to play with their friends. Shorten the 20s season and have guys move onto the junior 1s/2s/3s/4s in some way during that season. Far easier to turn up following season for pre season if you know the coaches/players through playing with them the previous season

D14Rugby · 25-06-2019 12:45pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

So we should just accept it?
Integrating 20s into junior sides is more than fair enough.
Why just think about 1sts?
Thats the problem. What of the rest you need to expand beyond the few who may be able to progress while 19/20 years of age to the first team, Shorten the 20s season and get players involved in junior rugby competitions in some form. Get them playing in the leagues as well as the cups. Players then know the run of things within the clubs junior teams as in coaches, players involved. People here talk about 20s guys wanting to play with their friends. Shorten the 20s season and have guys move onto the junior 1s/2s/3s/4s in some way during that season. Far easier to turn up following season for pre season if you know the coaches/players through playing with them the previous season

The season is already 21/22/23 games at an absolute max if you make the all Ireland final, cup final and include qualifiers. That's a pretty short season already. Any shorter and you're talking about dropping competitions.

What the system already allows to happen is there's gaps in the season so players can go out to junior teams and get to know people on those teams.

Nobody is just thinking about the firsts except for you ironically. If a player goes to a div 2 team to play firsts in the hope of getting a province contract but doesn't get one odds are they'll drop away from rugby. Whereas if they join a club they actually want to play for and play 20s and the same happens they're far more likely to continue playing for the club whatever the level of team.

Chico Flores · 25-06-2019 1:58pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

So we should just accept it?
Integrating 20s into junior sides is more than fair enough.
Why just think about 1sts?
Thats the problem. What of the rest you need to expand beyond the few who may be able to progress while 19/20 years of age to the first team, Shorten the 20s season and get players involved in junior rugby competitions in some form. Get them playing in the leagues as well as the cups. Players then know the run of things within the clubs junior teams as in coaches, players involved. People here talk about 20s guys wanting to play with their friends. Shorten the 20s season and have guys move onto the junior 1s/2s/3s/4s in some way during that season. Far easier to turn up following season for pre season if you know the coaches/players through playing with them the previous season

Accept what though, we aren't moral guardians of the game. It is a message board, just different opinions. I remember you saying there was no way there would be 4 Connacht teams in 2B next season.

Things change. We all have opinions. Think we are stating it as if absolute fact.

Some clubs are obviously better than others and some clubs aren't but it is for each club and section to manage.

I personally don't see anything wrong with how it is now. Like Seapoint can't field at 20s, that isn't going to change by saying to lads, by the way we will throw you in against grown men in Metro 7. Premier 3 is fine for them

The Lost Sheep · 25-06-2019 3:24pm

Chico Flores wrote: »

Accept what though, we aren't moral guardians of the game. It is a message board, just different opinions. I remember you saying there was no way there would be 4 Connacht teams in 2B next season.

Things change. We all have opinions. Think we are stating it as if absolute fact.

Some clubs are obviously better than others and some clubs aren't but it is for each club and section to manage.

I personally don't see anything wrong with how it is now. Like Seapoint can't field at 20s, that isn't going to change by saying to lads, by the way we will throw you in against grown men in Metro 7. Premier 3 is fine for them

I do as player drop out rate isnt helped at all by the current system. Numbers dropping out of the sport to rarely return other than to turn up at pro14/h cup/internationals isnt helped by how the sport is set up.
A club not able to compete/field at 20s can change by throwing the players available into a metro 7..... they then can use those 20s players in an adult comp with additional players overage for 20s....
And you're talking about metro7. thats j3 standard. a team of 20s should be very comfortable at that level as an example..

Chico Flores · 25-06-2019 4:46pm

It was just an example, and if it was metro 7 I'm sure the junior lads playing that wouldn't appreciate walking into A 20s team like.

Their right to play the game is just as much as a 20s in a balanced league.

Every sport has drop off. Is there any specific evidence to back up what you're saying here

D14Rugby · 25-06-2019 6:02pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I do as player drop out rate isnt helped at all by the current system. Numbers dropping out of the sport to rarely return other than to turn up at pro14/h cup/internationals isnt helped by how the sport is set up.
A club not able to compete/field at 20s can change by throwing the players available into a metro 7..... they then can use those 20s players in an adult comp with additional players overage for 20s....
And you're talking about metro7. thats j3 standard. a team of 20s should be very comfortable at that level as an example..

So you're idea to retain players is to remove, or at least handicap, the transition level? Brilliant plan...

The Lost Sheep · 25-06-2019 6:16pm

D14Rugby wrote: »

So you're idea to retain players is to remove, or at least handicap, the transition level? Brilliant plan...

well 20s isn't helping retain players overall. Numbers playing drops considerably at 20s my idea is to forge greater links between 20s and the junior sections in clubs as from my experience they are very much standalone parts of clubs.
Clubs with 20s teams target small number of players but with junior rugby there is far more opportunities for people to play at far wider range of levels

D14Rugby · 25-06-2019 6:40pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

well 20s isn't helping retain players overall. Numbers playing drops considerably at 20s my idea is to forge greater links between 20s and the junior sections in clubs as from my experience they are very much standalone parts of clubs.
Clubs with 20s teams target small number of players but with junior rugby there is far more opportunities for people to play at far wider range of levels

It really is in one ear out the other isn't it. And what exactly is your experience all mighty one? Numbers would drop off far far more if there wasn't the buffer of u20s between youths/schools and adult rugby. How do clubs with 20s team "target" small numbers of players exactly?

Here's how 20s works say 5 mates are leaving school and looking to join a club. Say 1 is hopeful of getting Ireland u20s and the other 4 are a mix of levels. With 20s they all join a 20s team, integrate into a club and have 2 years to find their level, learn how the club play, improve their skills without too much size pressure, get to know more people by playing 20s, being in the clubhouse, going out to junior teams a couple of times a season, training against junior teams and as a result enjoy whatever level they end up at. Take away 20s and you have players split up in teams of people they don't know or playing at an inappropriate level while only knowing a couple of people, either way those players soon quit rugby

D14Rugby · 26-06-2019 12:55pm

https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/energia-title-sponsor-all-ireland-league/

Been rumoured/unofficially confirmed for months but its now official that energia are the new AIL title sponsor

luke9311 · 26-06-2019 3:10pm

Energia announced a 5 year deal sponsorship for the ail

https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/06/26/irfu-and-energia-announce-five-year-ail-sponsorship-deal/

realhorrorshow · 26-06-2019 3:11pm

If you removed the 20s leagues you would lose more guys in the short term and probably wouldn't change much medium/long term. If clubs want to grow IMO they should focus on touch/sevens/coaching/reffing/social events. Don't think there is much scope to dramatically increase the numbers of adult mens 15s players.

Really the onus is on clubs to integrate their 20s to the club and track players correctly. At my club 20s are sent to play seconds which they hate because the team is a mess and the culture is toxic. Plenty say they would rather play thirds but there is no relationship between the 20s and 3rds, if you are not going from 20s to the senior panel the club doesn't care.

shoutman · 26-06-2019 3:51pm

realhorrorshow wrote: »

If you removed the 20s leagues you would lose more guys in the short term and probably wouldn't change much medium/long term. If clubs want to grow IMO they should focus on touch/sevens/coaching/reffing/social events. Don't think there is much scope to dramatically increase the numbers of adult mens 15s players.

Really the onus is on clubs to integrate their 20s to the club and track players correctly. At my club 20s are sent to play seconds which they hate because the team is a mess and the culture is toxic. Plenty say they would rather play thirds but there is no relationship between the 20s and 3rds, if you are not going from 20s to the senior panel the club doesn't care.

I think in all honesty this is the case across most senior clubs. The powers that be often pay lip service to junior/social rugby and talk about how a strong club is a strong junior section etc. but in reality it goes 1st team, 20's 1st team, with everybody else a distance third.

The Lost Sheep · 26-06-2019 4:29pm

realhorrorshow wrote: »

If you removed the 20s leagues you would lose more guys in the short term and probably wouldn't change much medium/long term. If clubs want to grow IMO they should focus on touch/sevens/coaching/reffing/social events. Don't think there is much scope to dramatically increase the numbers of adult mens 15s players.

Really the onus is on clubs to integrate their 20s to the club and track players correctly. At my club 20s are sent to play seconds which they hate because the team is a mess and the culture is toxic. Plenty say they would rather play thirds but there is no relationship between the 20s and 3rds, if you are not going from 20s to the senior panel the club doesn't care.

it was only a suggestion. If you removed 20s as a grade at least for the entire season like the current set up clubs would be forced to do far more to integrate players within the club earlier. Nothing would stop clubs keeping teams as under 20 teams and
You may lose players you may not all would depend on how clubs approach it.
There very much is scope to grow number of adult players considering the big growth of underage players in recent years

realhorrorshow · 26-06-2019 4:42pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

it was only a suggestion. If you removed 20s as a grade at least for the entire season like the current set up clubs would be forced to do far more to integrate players within the club earlier. Nothing would stop clubs keeping teams as under 20 teams and
You may lose players you may not all would depend on how clubs approach it.
There very much is scope to grow number of adult players considering the big growth of underage players in recent years

Not having a go, it's worth discussing. Ultimately it all comes down to the sentence I've bolded.

Personally I think playing men's rugby is too much of a sacrifice for lots of people in terms of injuries, concussions, and time.

realhorrorshow · 26-06-2019 4:44pm

shoutman wrote: »

I think in all honesty this is the case across most senior clubs. The powers that be often pay lip service to junior/social rugby and talk about how a strong club is a strong junior section etc. but in reality it goes 1st team, 20's 1st team, with everybody else a distance third.

I play thirds and we basically operate as our own separate entity who happen to wear the club's colours.

The Lost Sheep · 26-06-2019 6:41pm

realhorrorshow wrote: »

Not having a go, it's worth discussing. Ultimately it all comes down to the sentence I've bolded.

Personally I think playing men's rugby is too much of a sacrifice for lots of people in terms of injuries, concussions, and time.

really depends on level were on about as well
Problem with 20s as said they're standalone to rest of club and yes you will always lose players but the other main sports don't have 20s/21s or just have it at end of season so keep players more involved in adult game far more.

In actual rugby news leinster league groups and fixtures made and clubs posting them....

Mary's, terenure, ucd and tarf in division 1a. Games September 7/14/21

D14Rugby · 26-06-2019 7:18pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Problem with 20s as said they're standalone to rest of club

no nobody said that because they're not. Closest anyone has said is clubs just care about firsts and 20s which is a fault of the club not the syatem

but the other main sports don't have 20s/21s or just have it at end of season

again not true, the GAA have u21s

so keep players more involved in adult game far more.

Again your opinion and many of others have voiced their disagreement with your opinion on what retains players. You're completely getting caught up in keeping players in clubs and ignoring getting people to join clubs and see out the first year.

The Lost Sheep · 26-06-2019 10:15pm

D14Rugby wrote: »

no nobody said that because they're not. Closest anyone has said is clubs just care about firsts and 20s which is a fault of the club not the syatem

its very much fault of system when it's the case across so many clubs and has become the norm.

again not true, the GAA have u21s

you obviously didn't read what I said. I said GAA have their u21 championships for clubs at beginning or very end of the year and players will primarily play adult senior/junior levels. U21 is in a lot of cases played on straight knock out basis with no league and a player eligible for u21 primary team and games in the year will be open grade adult gamesnbe that senior/intermediate or junior.

Again your opinion and many of others have voiced their disagreement with your opinion on what retains players. You're completely getting caught up in keeping players in clubs and ignoring getting people to join clubs and see out the first year.

and I've put up ways that for me work far better in keeping players involved. That work very well in other sports

Squidgy Black · 27-06-2019 5:43pm

U21 in GAA at club level is completely different to rugby. It's a single knockout championship done from October through to the end of November normally, there's no league so teams are usually a mix of Minor and Senior/Junior players who might train a hand full of times as a squad before the championship.

At least in Leinster for U20s there's the JP Flanagan and the various cups on top of that.

I think there's an argument there that players coming out of school who are on the right track for sub-academy and academy spots need exposure to senior rugby sooner than later, but the U20s teams aren't really valued which I think is a shame. Not all players develop physically at the same rate, and it can be a massive step-up for some players to get thrown it at AIL level regardless if it's 1A or 2C, a lot of them are up against fully grown men for the first time in a competitive environment.

The Lost Sheep · 27-06-2019 8:07pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

U21 in GAA at club level is completely different to rugby. It's a single knockout championship done from October through to the end of November normally, there's no league so teams are usually a mix of Minor and Senior/Junior players who might train a hand full of times as a squad before the championship.

At least in Leinster for U20s there's the JP Flanagan and the various cups on top of that.

I think there's an argument there that players coming out of school who are on the right track for sub-academy and academy spots need exposure to senior rugby sooner than later, but the U20s teams aren't really valued which I think is a shame. Not all players develop physically at the same rate, and it can be a massive step-up for some players to get thrown it at AIL level regardless if it's 1A or 2C, a lot of them are up against fully grown men for the first time in a competitive environment.

I know it is very different and I put it in as a comparison because it is so different. Players play at all different adult levels as appropriate and then if they really want to play with all their friends they can at the end of the season.
GAa also has for all players the key thing in that players will be playing with their clubs at all graďs beforehand unlike in rugby with the schools players...
Players can play junior rugby/metro in dublin/leinster which has many teams at all appropriate levels and clubs can put u20 or 22 teams etc if they want to keep some players on same side.
Not all players do progress at same rate physically so keeping them in age grade rugby for 2 and some cases 3 years after they leave school is crazy.

D14Rugby · 28-06-2019 1:03pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I know it is very different and I put it in as a comparison because it is so different. Players play at all different adult levels as appropriate and then if they really want to play with all their friends they can at the end of the season.
GAa also has for all players the key thing in that players will be playing with their clubs at all graďs beforehand unlike in rugby with the schools players...
Players can play junior rugby/metro in dublin/leinster which has many teams at all appropriate levels and clubs can put u20 or 22 teams etc if they want to keep some players on same side.
Not all players do progress at same rate physically so keeping them in age grade rugby for 2 and some cases 3 years after they leave school is crazy.

You're acting as if players are forced to play 20s and not open age grade rugby, it's just another option for those that for whatever reason aren't ready for or don't want to play open age grade rugby. It's not like if you're 19 and want to play 4ths your club is going to make you play 20s instead.

Chico Flores · 28-06-2019 4:12pm

I believe Paulie Tolofua from Naas has done his cruciate and out for the season/guts thereof

Braken · 29-06-2019 10:59pm

Tadgh Bennett backs coach to Shannon this season

Chico Flores · 03-07-2019 8:59am

Peter Hastie going back to Lansdowne.

FellasFellas · 03-07-2019 10:12am

Has Deasy retired?

Gatekeeper23 · 03-07-2019 11:26am

FellasFellas wrote: »

Has Deasy retired?

Apparently so, Lansdowne were chasing Willie Staunton as a replacement but he's gone back to Limerick and is playing with Garryowen according to sources.

Young Harry Byrne surely in line to fill Deasy's boots?

FellasFellas · 03-07-2019 4:35pm

Gatekeeper23 wrote: »

Apparently so, Lansdowne were chasing Willie Staunton as a replacement but he's gone back to Limerick and is playing with Garryowen according to sources.

Young Harry Byrne surely in line to fill Deasy's boots?

Sexton will be playing less and less so I'd say Harry Byrne will get chances with Leinster. When Ross Byrne is off with Ireland camps and along with Frawley he'll be in.

luke9311 · 03-07-2019 8:53pm

Gatekeeper23 wrote: »

Apparently so, Lansdowne were chasing Willie Staunton as a replacement but he's gone back to Limerick and is playing with Garryowen according to sources.

Young Harry Byrne surely in line to fill Deasy's boots?

Interesting about willie. Surprised he’s not going back to cookies again but then again I guess since his brothers in garryowen now makes sense for him to go there. Where was he last few seasons navan or wanderers wasn’t it?

Chico Flores · 04-07-2019 11:24am

luke9311 wrote: »

Interesting about willie. Surprised he’s not going back to cookies again but then again I guess since his brothers in garryowen now makes sense for him to go there. Where was he last few seasons navan or wanderers wasn’t it?

Been at Navan last few seasons

gilesdebond · 08-07-2019 7:54am

Chico Flores wrote: »

Peter Hastie going back to Lansdowne.

Craig Ronaldson has signed too

shoutman · 08-07-2019 8:51am

gilesdebond wrote: »

Craig Ronaldson has signed too

That will be a serious signing if he can stay injury free, he definitely has the quality to playing in the pro game, that damn knee!

UpTipp123 · 08-07-2019 10:02am

serious signing if true - crazy to think he didn't pick up another contract. love seeing ex pros come back to the clubs. Anyone know when fixtures are out?

connemara man · 08-07-2019 11:55am

Ronaldson is great!! That's some signing, his big issue in not getting ba new contract or picked up by someone is he was injured for so long no one knew what type of player they'd be getting. I wouldn't be surprised if after a few months injury free and a good run of games he got picked up again

RobbieRuns · 08-07-2019 12:45pm

Ronaldson is a great signing for Lansdowne, but I could not see him going to an Irish Provincial Club. If he is not kept on in Galway, then I just do not see it.

Have huge admiration for the man, but I think his full professional days are over.

realhorrorshow · 08-07-2019 3:12pm

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Ronaldson is a great signing for Lansdowne, but I could not see him going to an Irish Provincial Club. If he is not kept on in Galway, then I just do not see it.

Have huge admiration for the man, but I think his full professional days are over.

If he has a good few months with Lansdowne and stays fit he would easily get an MLR contract for 2020, if he wanted.

RobbieRuns · 08-07-2019 5:35pm

Ah.............. an MLR contract. Sure, that could be achieved !

juniorrugbynut · 09-07-2019 9:12pm

Gatekeeper23 wrote: »

Apparently so, Lansdowne were chasing Willie Staunton as a replacement but he's gone back to Limerick and is playing with Garryowen according to sources.

Young Harry Byrne surely in line to fill Deasy's boots?

Word on Willie Staunton is that he is going to Kilfeacle (Junior Club in Tipperary) as a player/coach.

The Lost Sheep · 10-07-2019 12:56am

juniorrugbynut wrote: »

Word on Willie Staunton is that he is going to Kilfeacle (Junior Club in Tipperary) as a player/coach.

Stauntons started in Galbally a neighbouring club to Kilpeople and some of his family would have been central to setting up Kilfeacle when they split from Clanwilliam in 1981
So move makes sense in that way

Gatekeeper23 · 10-07-2019 4:28pm

Rumoured transfers doing the rounds, unsure on validity;

John McKee & Tim Murphy to UCD
Aaron Conneely to Wanderers
Edward Weaver to Lansdowne
Jack Aungier to Tarf
Naas bringing in 2 overseas players

All Ireland League 2019-2020 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

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