Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 3 MOD NOTE POST 1*

dubcat51 · 15-06-2019 12:32pm

best of luck to all teams today.minor camogie and seniors.bug games for all the teams.

TheMilkyPirate · 15-06-2019 2:32pm

Beautiful day down here in Wexford I'm living two minutes from the park and the sun is shining with blue skies and a light breeze. Lovely hurling weather

eoinfitzokk · 15-06-2019 3:38pm

Nickindublin wrote: »

I will be disappointed with the management if we have not learned how to deal with the sweeper system.

The sweeper system can be "dealt with" by running the ball and men on the shoulder, cross field diagonal balls, or press up the field. Where the combative system breaks down is severe pressure from the other sides forwards so our lads end up hoofing it up or we run out of steam.

Another system we could implement would be to rotate around/set our selves up so that the our spare man is in front of the sweeper.
Sweeper would either have to hold the position or mark up. We would be disrupting the oppositions entire strategy to win the game. Where it falls down is the open space that it would create in our back line so the midfield and half forward in turn would have to track retreat in waves.

Ritchie hogan is an ideal candidate to play this anti sweeper roll. He ghosts enough that the sweeper would have to follow him. P. Walsh could do this roll roam in much the same way also.
I'm not saying that it would work, just would like to see us commit to a successful system to combat the sweeper without aimlessly hoofing the ball up the field.

dobbs2210 · 15-06-2019 3:51pm

5 changes from the team named last night.

1 Eoin Murphy
2 Joey Holden
3 Huw Lawlor
4 Paul Murphy
5 Paddy Deegan
6 Padraig Walsh
7 Enda Morrissey
8 Conor Fogarty
9 Cillian Buckley
10 Walter Walsh
11 TJ Reid
12 Richie Leahy
13 Adrian mullen
14 Colin Fennelly
15 Billy Ryan

Powerhouse · 15-06-2019 4:49pm

Interesting to see Kilkenny feeling the need to name a dummy team to play a team that has won just once in its last seven championship matches against a top 9 team.

Shirleysrumbler · 15-06-2019 4:52pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

Interesting to see Kilkenny feeling the need to name a dummy team to play a team that has won just once in its last seven championship matches against a top 9 team.

Yawn!!!!

Rasputin11 · 15-06-2019 5:08pm

I see Galmoy have a player on the Kilkenny Minors and another chap on the Laois 20s. What's the rule in this situation?

dubcat51 · 15-06-2019 6:27pm

wins for minors, inter and senior camogie,lets make it a full house.great win for senior camogie in galway.

tbiggertycome · 15-06-2019 6:40pm

Sky as announced that
Tommy Walsh
Alan Murphy
Bill Sheehan
& Ger Aylward
are NOT starting

It seems the team put up earlier is correct,
E Murphy
J Holden, H Lawlor,P Murphy
P Deegan, P Walsh, E Morrissey
C Fogarty, C Buckley
W Walsh, TJ Reid, R Leahy
A Mullen, C Fennelly, B Ryan

VonZan · 15-06-2019 6:41pm

Rasputin11 wrote: »

I see Galmoy have a player on the Kilkenny Minors and another chap on the Laois 20s. What's the rule in this situation?

I think he would have transferred to Galmoy from Laois or if one of his parents played for a Laois club then he would be entitled to play intercounty for Laois.

Topcat32 · 15-06-2019 8:42pm

Great battling performance, if we get Cillian back centre back we are a serious team

KK Supercats · 15-06-2019 8:50pm

Thought Joey Holden had an excellent game. The lack of match fitness showed in a couple of the players coming back but they all battled to the end.

dubcat51 · 15-06-2019 8:54pm

walter james maher cillian all not fully fit.need to have fully fit players the next day.

dastardly00 · 15-06-2019 8:54pm

I've lost about 10 years off my life after watching that... Edge of the seat stuff because of what was going on in Parnell Park.

Initial reactions...
The backs played very well tonight. I thought Joey Holden was really great (and I am often critical of him). Murphy, P Walsh and Fogarty were vastly, vastly improved from last week. And Hugh Lawlor had another really good performance.

Wexford did very well to nulify TJ.

Colin Fennelly had a good game - a couple of points and also a few assists, plus he worked his socks off. Adrian Mullen will get better and better with more experience. I think Wally was a good bit off the pace.

I thought we missed a few easy chances in the second half, in particular Richie Leahy missed a couple and then James Maher near the end.

Finally, Wexford scored some brilliant points. Several times they worked the ball in their own 21 and passed it up the pitch to get a score. I'd be interested to hear from some of the posters on this thread who vent their disgust at Wexford's style of play.

I'm looking forward to the Leinster final.

blackcard · 15-06-2019 8:56pm

Padraig Walsh, Joey Holden and Adrian Mullen were probably the standouts. Colin Fennelly tried his heart out. Huw Lawlor had another good game. Good to see James Maher back on the field. Ref left an awful lot off. Eoin Murphy lucky not to concede a penalty. Wexford continually grabbing Kilkenny hurls. Great to have 2 more matches, it will be good for the likes of Lawlor, Mullen, Billy Ryan

BloodyBill · 15-06-2019 9:00pm

blackcard wrote: »

Padraig Walsh, Joey Holden and Adrian Mullen were probably the standouts. Colin Fennelly tried his heart out. Huw Lawlor had another good game. Good to see James Maher back on the field. Ref left an awful lot off. Eoin Murphy lucky not to concede a penalty. Wexford continually grabbing Kilkenny hurls. Great to have 2 more matches, it will be good for the likes of Lawlor, Mullen, Billy Ryan

Kilkenny are a work in progress but they are getting there. Wexford pucked alot of ball down on Walsh and gave away some cheap scores but Kilkenny took their chances. It ll be an interesting Leinster final. All to play for.

Pigeon Chaser · 15-06-2019 9:08pm

Will post full reaction later but one thing that frustrated me was the sheer amount of times Wexford lads were pulling the hurl out of our lads hands.

The scamps.

Topcat32 · 15-06-2019 9:29pm

dobbs2210 wrote: »

5 changes from the team named last night.

1 Eoin Murphy
2 Joey Holden
3 Huw Lawlor
4 Paul Murphy
5 Paddy Deegan
6 Padraig Walsh
7 Enda Morrissey
8 Conor Fogarty
9 Cillian Buckley
10 Walter Walsh
11 TJ Reid
12 Richie Leahy
13 Adrian mullen
14 Colin Fennelly
15 Billy Ryan

Have to say this was a serious risk taken by Cody, but really paid off.

kilkennyboy · 15-06-2019 9:36pm

Topcat32 wrote: »

Have to say this was a serious risk taken by Cody, but really paid off.

Not so sure it did .Joey being the exception
Lads looked like they needed the game.
Can only improve

Topcat32 · 15-06-2019 9:39pm

kilkennyboy wrote: »

Not so sure it did .Joey being the exception
Lads looked like they needed the game.
Can only improve

They definitely tired as the game went on, but I thought there was a much better shape to the team than in the previous matches, it was vital that Kilkenny fronted up from the start tonight and I thought that having those 5 changes in place ensured that

kilkennyboy · 15-06-2019 9:45pm

Topcat32 wrote: »

They definitely tired as the game went on, but I thought there was a much better shape to the team than in the previous matches, it was vital that Kilkenny fronted up from the start tonight and I thought that having those 5 changes in place ensured that

As things worked out .We are in a great position now .with the dropped lads trying to reclaim their spots and the returned lads improving for the game.get a result in the Leinster final and we could be in a great position for a simifinal.
Might be a summer yet.

The_Ghost · 15-06-2019 10:14pm

I was behind one of the goals with the sun facing into us so I’ll have to rewatch it and see but initial reactions are: If we were offered a draw before the game we would have taken it all day so it’s a good result and we top the group. I feel we could have won it though but it prob worked out for the best with a very winnable final vs Wexford now. The changes definitely worked and were setup much better and beside a 10/15 spell we worked the ball much better. It’s a wonder how hogan,Murphy, sheenan and Ger didn’t get on today after playing large amounts last week. I still feel our generally striking off the ball is off, leahy, despite picking up great positions and driving really well had a few desperate strikes. Maher the same I taught he was slow but that’s expected and he’ll be a huge boost. Adrian had an up and down day but he stood up for himself even after taking a hug shoulder from Ryan and scored well with a few bad wides. His catch and shot inde second half was pure class. I think he should be left inside he’s such a threat. Billy quite again. Deegan was a loss and the backs were much better and tighter today. Hanlon nullified TJ completely but Colin had a very good game he’s such a team player. Buckley is a massive leader in this team and Walsh as the spare man did very very well beside few bad passes and clearneces inde first half and few bad pot shots. Taught the ref was woeful and Wexford got frees a lot easier. Wexford had a few quality scores themself I know he made a mistake for the goal but foley is a great sweeper and they’re good at working the ball into space where they pick up great scores. Apparently it was a good game on the tv and I look forward to watching it and the Leinster final. Wexford will travel in some numbers.

kk.man · 15-06-2019 10:16pm

kilkennyboy wrote: »

As things worked out .We are in a great position now .with the dropped lads trying to reclaim their spots and the returned lads improving for the game.get a result in the Leinster final and we could be in a great position for a simifinal.
Might be a summer yet.

I actually think we might sneek into an all Ireland...wheather we win one or not is another matter.

blackcard · 15-06-2019 10:20pm

Final is on in 2 weeks time. The loser is out 2 weeks later with the winner having a 4 week break. It would be a good year if we could get to a semi final

kilkennyboy · 15-06-2019 10:22pm

kk.man wrote: »

I actually think we might sneek into an all Ireland...wheather we win one or not is another matter.

Shush. stay down in the long grassðŸ†

blackcard · 15-06-2019 10:26pm

kilkennyboy wrote: »

kk.man wrote: »

I actually think we might sneek into an all Ireland...wheather we win one or not is another matter.

Shush. stay down in the long grassðŸ†

We were 1 point from having an early end to the championship so wouldn't be getting too excited

kilkennyboy · 15-06-2019 10:30pm

blackcard wrote: »

We were 1 point from having an early end to the championship so wouldn't be getting too excited

Those are the margins in hurling. Very little between teams in Leinster.great to be back in a Leinster final for the new lads

citykat · 15-06-2019 10:33pm

Delighted for Joey. Thought he had a great game. Never put a foot wrong. Even managed to get himself on the scoreboard.
Buckley didn’t look right at all. He appeared to be limping going off.
Walter wasn’t his usual self and faded.
Thought Richie might have been sprung. The way Wexford set up, we needed someone who could score from distance.
Good to see Hanlon get the line. He’s had that coming a long time against us.
We probably could’ve won but a draw was ironically a better result all round.

allthedoyles · 15-06-2019 10:40pm

The short puck out didn't work for Kilkenny.
Joey Holden made clearances look easy - the best positive for Kk tonight.
Others wasted too much time getting rid of ball and got caught out on occasions.
I hate that sun. It must have been difficult for the players.
The ref let so much go,that some frees were taken from the hand.

dubcat51 · 15-06-2019 10:40pm

murphy ex cellent
murphy v good
lawllor excellent
joey excellent
padraig excellent
mortisey decent
deegan v good
fogarty decent
buckley average
walter average
leahy good shooting poor
mullen v good should really help his confidence
tj.average
ryan poor
colin.excellent
maher poor
cleere decent
blanch nit long enough on to comment

think we will see hogan and ger in croker.trainung should be interesting as we know cody is not afraid to change.
also mention great wins by the inter and senior camogie today.also minors in leinster final also v wex.

Shirleysrumbler · 15-06-2019 10:47pm

kilkennyboy wrote: »

Shush. stay down in the long grassðŸ†

Be great Craic tobeat Tipp in Semi & Lk in Final ðŸ˜€

amber69 · 15-06-2019 11:10pm

Shirleysrumbler wrote: »

Be great Craic tobeat Tipp in Semi & Lk in Final ðŸ˜€

Getting a long way ahead of yourself. Be great to beat Wexford in the Leinster final.

dubcat51 · 15-06-2019 11:25pm

2 more matches guarnteed can only be good for this squad.competition for places now.key for me is 1 or 2 forwards really nailing down a place.ryan ger sheehan all have had chances but not nailed down a spot.same for mullen up to tonights game.also a midfield pairing.big plus of the champiobship for me has been huw lawlor.cant see delaney at full back now.

Joe Daly · 15-06-2019 11:40pm

Rasputin11 wrote: »

I see Galmoy have a player on the Kilkenny Minors and another chap on the Laois 20s. What's the rule in this situation?

Part of Galmoy parish is in Co laois, a couple of years ago a Russel chap hurled with Laois played club with Galmoy because the part he lived in was Co laois.

SteJer · 15-06-2019 11:44pm

Great result this evening. Even better having booted Galway out of Leinster on their 10th anniversary of joining. A real Leinster final to look forward to now. Wexford had a lot of advantages this evening and failed to capitalise. We were playing our 2nd tough match in 6 days, had 4-5 players involved that were not 100% fit and/or lacking match practice and they were at home. Neutral venue, 2 week break and those 4-5 players sharper the next day gives me great hope of winning the Leinster Final.

Joe Daly · 15-06-2019 11:55pm

Great day for all our teams representing our County to day, great to be back in croke park in two weeks time.

Grats · 15-06-2019 11:56pm

SteJer wrote: »

Great result this evening. Even better having booted Galway out of Leinster on their 10th anniversary of joining. A real Leinster final to look forward to now. Wexford had a lot of advantages this evening and failed to capitalise. We were playing our 2nd tough match in 6 days, had 4-5 players involved that were not 100% fit and/or lacking match practice and they were at home. Neutral venue, 2 week break and those 4-5 players sharper the next day gives me great hope of winning the Leinster Final.

I go along with that. To get that result down in Wexford Park in that environment was very special.

SteJer · 16-06-2019 12:37am

Murphy and the backs did well throughout.

Fogarty came in to it more in the second half.

Buckley is clearly still nowhere near 100%. To see an ice pack strapped to his knee and walking with a very obvious limp after the match looks worrying for him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he plays no further part this year.

Leahy’s shooting was awful. He probably will never be that bad again. For me you either start him at midfield or on the bench.

Billy Ryan is very inconsistent. I can’t see him starting the next day.

Walter is struggling badly with that ankle injury. I’d say he’s 50-50 for the Leinster Final.

Mullen had a good game, hopefully he continues to improve.

TJ surely can’t have as quiet a match again the next day. At least we’ve shown that we can still dig out a result without TJ scoring from play.

Fennelly had the beating of Ryan everytime he was on the ball. I think Fennelly is not 100% after the hamstring he picked up against Carlow. The two week break will help him recover more.

A fit James Maher would seriously improve our midfield.

One thing I was disappointed by was very few of our lads were willing to take on their man when they gained possession. Most of the time they opted for a quick shot which lead to some awful wides. I expect them to have learned their lesson for the next day.

Based on today the team I’d pick for the Leinster Final (assuming Walter & Deegan are fit and Buckley is not) is;

Murphy
Murphy
Lawlor
Morrissey
Holden
Walsh
Deegan
Maher
Fogarty
TJ
Walter
Mullen
Alyward/Sheehan
Fennelly
Donnelly/Blanchfield

I think Billy Ryan & Leahy are better coming off the bench at the moment. We need one of Donnelly or Blanchfield to offer more of an aerial threat. With the correct ball in to Alyward/Sheehan I think they would have the beating of Reck or Donoghue.

68deville · 16-06-2019 12:52am

citykat wrote: »

Delighted for Joey. Thought he had a great game. Never put a foot wrong. Even managed to get himself on the scoreboard.
Buckley didn’t look right at all. He appeared to be limping going off.
Walter wasn’t his usual self and faded.
Thought Richie might have been sprung. The way Wexford set up, we needed someone who could score from distance.
Good to see Hanlon get the line. He’s had that coming a long time against us.
We probably could’ve won but a draw was ironically a better result all round.

Still we didn't get beaten on our home patch even with 14 men

allthedoyles · 16-06-2019 12:53am

Grats wrote: »

I go along with that. To get that result down in Wexford Park in that environment was very special.

Go back to last Sunday - Galway were a different animal and KK lost by one point - trust Mr. Cody . -

larrya · 16-06-2019 12:55am

Really delighted for Joey.outstanding for shamrocks last year and hung out to dry by Cody against Tipp a few years ago.Got a lot of unwarranted blame that day when anyone would have struggled.

SteJer · 16-06-2019 1:09am

68deville wrote: »

Still we didn't get beaten on our home patch even with 14 men

We keep hearing that this is the best Wexford team since 96 with the best manager and yet they couldn’t beat a Kilkenny team at home that apparently only has one good player. Not a bad result for such a poor team so!!

68deville · 16-06-2019 1:13am

SteJer wrote: »

We keep hearing that this is the best Wexford team since 96 with the best manager and yet they couldn’t beat a Kilkenny team at home that apparently only has one good player. Not a bad result for such a poor team so!!

First I heard of best since 96! still unbeaten at so far do home or away

SteJer · 16-06-2019 2:11am

68deville wrote: »

First I heard of best since 96! still unbeaten at so far do home or away

Great result for a one man Kilkenny team so to get a draw against an unbeaten Wexford team at home. I don’t know how KK even got the draw considering our only player didn’t score from play. A miraculous result when you think about it.

dundalkfc10 · 16-06-2019 2:16am

Is their highlights of the game online?

usualstripes · 16-06-2019 9:32am

larrya wrote: »

Really delighted for Joey.outstanding for shamrocks last year and hung out to dry by Cody against Tipp a few years ago.Got a lot of unwarranted blame that day when anyone would have struggled.

We're all delighted for Joey. His fielding and delivery was very good yesterday.
Just a question though. How was he hung out to dry by cody? Because there was too much space between full and half back lines?

Billy Ocean · 16-06-2019 9:42am

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Is their highlights of the game online?

a 2 min highlights video on Facebook

dubcat51 · 16-06-2019 10:22am

cody went witha physical team hence no ger bill or richie.expect something different in croker

Philip82 · 16-06-2019 4:34pm

Kilkenny may struggle I feel even if they might scrape by Wexford or may not. Noting improvement from the Galway match especially in our shot selection, one thing that gets me is how static our forwards are. Colin fennelly played well last night when he made a run to create some space but far too often for me stands at the edge of the square forcing the long high ball to be hit forward. Walter doesnt seem to like playing Wexford albeit recovering from injury and always struggles, Blanchfield should have been introduced alot sooner. Overall I thought our backs were good but struggled with the runner all night with O Keffe and Jack o Connor when introduced scoring too easily.
If we see more movement upfront and space creation the next day I feel we have a good string of forwards to score goals.

brookville · 16-06-2019 7:17pm

great to get to a leinster final and 2 more days out at least anyway.hopefully adrian mullen can keep it going we all know what potential he has.this should give him great confidence.James maher will hopefully be close in two weeks time.Id be worried over cillian.
The galway match last week obviously took alot out of us so fair play to the lads last night we all know how hard it is to go to wexford.I think we will be happier get wexford up to croke park and use the space.Kk and wex will both be happy to avoid galway.it also must be said fergal horgan done a good job last night and contributed to the match being so good.When you the see the number of soft yellows produced in munster today.
also well done to jimmy meagher from freshford whos with the clare minors who quilified for the munster final.

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