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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    the Derbyshire, that was her.

    Different circumstances. This ship didn't sink in minutes, there are many photos online of her after the break, stern and bow high.
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    Derbyshire took water into a full hold, when her hatch coaming failed in a typhoon. Physics took over and she tore to pieces as she sank to the the bottom.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    maybe it was another then, but she went down very quick


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,202 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    maybe it was another then, but she went down very quick

    you might be thinking of the Algoport. it broke in half in rough seas in the east china sea. another ship designed for inland use. it was under tow to china for conversion.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    This is the Derbyshire I was thinking about!!

    Took her 2 minutes from first hold hatch rupture to her being completely submerged..



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    That doesn't appear to have happened to this Ukranian ship. You can see in many photos of her she is badly hogged. It was only a matter of time before she snapped in two.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Dohvolle wrote: »
    That doesn't appear to have happened to this Ukranian ship. You can see in many photos of her she is badly hogged. It was only a matter of time before she snapped in two.

    Oh I know that, and I wasn’t saying it was similar.

    Just when I saw the ship breaking (slowly), I was reminded of the Derbyshire (I know they broke in different ways, but I’d imagine just as horrifying if you were on bird).


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,864 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    RTE news : New research vessel named after explorer Tom Crean

    http://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2021/0201/1194408-tom-crean/

    Great news!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    RTE news : New research vessel named after explorer Tom Crean

    http://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2021/0201/1194408-tom-crean/

    Great news!


    I’m still awaiting the movie of his life to be made... I think it would be incredible...
    Michael Fassbender to play Crean.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    I’m still awaiting the movie of his life to be made... I think it would be incredible...
    Michael Fassbender to play Crean.

    Nobody else could, to be honest.
    All the movies about Scott or Shackleton have him as a very minor character. There was one some years back with Branagh as Shackleton that was pretty good, even if it reduced Crean's output to that of the man who minded the puppies, and ignoring completely the fact that Shackleton was from Kildare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,405 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Someone asleep at the wheel...
    A Japanese submarine has collided with a commercial ship as it attempted to surface off the country's Pacific coast.

    Three of the submarine's crew sustained minor injuries in the crash which occurred on Monday, government officials said.

    The Soryu submarine suffered damage to its antenna mast along with its communication equipment forcing the crew to use a mobile phone to report the incident.

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    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56000531


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,202 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    It bent the dive plane on the conning tower as well. A desk job at best for the captain after this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The seafarer can often be close to the lowest rung of the ladder of humanity.
    Four years into voyage and metres from land, tanker crew still stuck aboard

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    DUBAI (Reuters) - Nearly four years into their odyssey at sea, the five-member crew of oil tanker MT Iba is tantalisingly close to shore, yet still unable to set foot on dry land.

    Bleary-eyed and wearing tattered clothes, the men are exhausted from an ordeal that has kept them from their families and aboard the 5,000-tonne vessel long after its owner abandoned it in the Gulf.

    What started out as a regular seafaring job turned into what the men call a nightmare, when the tanker’s owner, Alco Shipping, fell into financial trouble and stopped paying their salaries 32 months ago.

    The crew was left to fend for itself, relying on donations from charities they contacted for food and hygiene supplies.

    The tanker ran aground in Umm Al Quwain, one of the seven emirates that make up the United Arab Emirates, in late January, after rough seas severed both of its anchors and pushed it to shore.

    Life aboard the ship has been arduous, said Indian engineer Vinay Kumar.

    “We’ve seen hell during this voyage,” Kumar told Reuters during a recent visit aboard the battered ship. “We are like slaves ... We’re begging for food.”

    Alco Shipping did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    The Mission to Seafarers, a charity which offers emergency assistance and support to sailors, has been providing regular food aid and checking on the sailors’ wellbeing since their ship was first abandoned.
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    The crew is collectively owed around $230,000, said the charity’s regional director Andy Bowerman, who is helping mediate negotiations between the sailors and Alco Shipping.

    Bowerman said the company had just offered to settle with the sailors for $150,000, although it is not clear if the crew will accept the lower sum.

    Bowerman said if they did not accept the offer, they would remain on board until a resolution was reached, as the vessel provided their only leverage against the company.

    Maritime laws also mean that if they abandon the ship, they could be detained and held responsible.

    For Nay Win, an engineer from Myanmar, there is an added complication: his passport, still in the company’s possession, expired while he has been at sea. And with the recent military coup at home, he is unsure how to get a new one.

    “For 43 months how would you feel?” said Pakistani engineer Riasat Ali. “It’s like we are staying in jail - they are not giving a salary nor sending us home.”
    https://www.reuters.com/article/emirates-oil-tanker-int-idUSKBN2A91NS


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,043 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    neris wrote: »
    Nothing less than a miracle and good seamanship by the captain and crew.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


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    A British registered Spanish owned trawler has been towed to harbour in Dún Laoghaire after drifting for days in the Irish Sea because of engine failure.

    There are 15 crew members, some are Spanish, but most are Indonesian.

    An official from the International Transport Federation, a union which represents maritime workers, called to the ship this morning, but was unable to make contact with the crew.

    Magan D was first reported to be in trouble last Wednesday when it was 27 nautical miles off the Welsh coast and experiencing engine trouble because water had mixed with oil and it could not start the engine.

    Holyhead Coast Guard was attempting to contact the owner.

    By Friday, the owners had organised a tow, but although they had hoped to have the trawler brought to their base in Pasajes in Spain, that was not possible so an Irish tug, Trojan, brought it to Dún Laoghaire.

    Because Magan D is British registered it has been detained by the UK Maritime and Coastguard Agency which means it must be inspected and declared safe before it can leave Dún Laoghaire.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2021/0307/1201494-trawler/


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,043 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Se doesnt look that big for 15 crew but I suppose when youve cheap indonesian labour onboard you can work them around the clock


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    MV Alta report.
    https://www.mcib.ie/reports.7.html?r=273

    Lots of blame being dispersed here.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    General cargo vessel Cemi is NUC and drifting off the south east. Is it time to station an ERV somewhere like Rosslare for these incidences?

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:375691/mmsi:311771000/imo:8822612/vessel:CEMI


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Dohvolle wrote: »
    MV Alta report.
    https://www.mcib.ie/reports.7.html?r=273

    Lots of blame being dispersed here.

    Oh how I laughed at this peach:
    The Minister for Transport should, together with the Minister for Defence and the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine, form a working group comprising members from the Irish Coast Guard, the Naval Service, Irish Lights, the Sea Fisheries Protection Authority and other interested parties. The working group should explore the risks and potential costs to the State presented by derelict ships entering Irish territorial waters and coming ashore in Ireland and make proposals for means to identify, monitor, track and interdict derelict ships before they endanger other ships and seafarers in the vicinity. The working group should be also aware of the EU dimension and be prepared to make recommendations to other European agencies including EMSA on their deliberations.

    AKA: Is there anything to be said for another mass?

    Because of the dereliction of duty by the Irish State, she has now begun to break up and will likely continue to deteriorate to the point where salvage is not possible or practicable. Any other European maritime state would have handled this in a responsible and professional manner and not allowed bureaucracy to stymie the work of wreck recovery and dismantling. Time is against you in these situations and the local and national authorities have needlessly sat on their hands and ignored the issue. Shame on them all.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Oh how I laughed at this peach:



    AKA: Is there anything to be said for another mass?

    Because of the dereliction of duty by the Irish State, she has now begun to break up and will likely continue to deteriorate to the point where salvage is not possible or practicable. Any other European maritime state would have handled this in a responsible and professional manner and not allowed bureaucracy to stymie the work of wreck recovery and dismantling. Time is against you in these situations and the local and national authorities have needlessly sat on their hands and ignored the issue. Shame on them all.

    It's not as if it ever happened before.
    And of course if it happened once, it will never happen again.
    Now that's discussed and everyone is happy, time for tea and biscuits.

    Joking aside, the Alta situation isn't finished yet. She is currently breaking up. as she breaks bits of her could potentially start floating with the current again, potentially causing damage to any number of fishing and private leisure vessels that use that stretch of water.
    She must be removed, while it is still possible.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    They should have towed her out, while she was reasonably intact, and headed for the deepest water they could find... (the Goban Spur at 4,000m is only 200nm off the SW coast), clear of any undersea cables, and scuttled her (or better still, let the Navy use her as target practice).

    Didn't a South American country very recently scuttle a huge rogue oil tanker? Certainly happened after the Alta washed up on our coast...


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    General cargo vessel Cemi is NUC and drifting off the south east. Is it time to station an ERV somewhere like Rosslare for these incidences?

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:375691/mmsi:311771000/imo:8822612/vessel:CEMI

    You have one of the largest operators in the SW with some of the most suitable vessels as well.
    http://www.atlantictowage.com/the-fleet/

    If the government can't even manage to remove a wreck in over a year, I doubt they would be willing or able to have an ERV on standby.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭RadioRetro


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    General cargo vessel Cemi is NUC and drifting off the south east. Is it time to station an ERV somewhere like Rosslare for these incidences?

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:375691/mmsi:311771000/imo:8822612/vessel:CEMI

    She had a bit of trouble in New Ross too... this from the front page of Tuesday's New Ross Standard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    RadioRetro wrote: »
    She had a bit of trouble in New Ross too... this from the front page of Tuesday's New Ross Standard.

    I see the Ocean Challenger is currently en route to her for a tow presumably.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    You have one of the largest operators in the SW with some of the most suitable vessels as well.
    http://www.atlantictowage.com/the-fleet/

    If the government can't even manage to remove a wreck in over a year, I doubt they would be willing or able to have an ERV on standby.

    This company some years back managed to lift a similar sized sail training vessel vessel near Kinsale, barged it for examination (and I think even towed it, on its barge overseas for breaking).
    It's well within their skills, they just need to be tasked.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭Dohvolle


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    General cargo vessel Cemi is NUC and drifting off the south east. Is it time to station an ERV somewhere like Rosslare for these incidences?

    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:375691/mmsi:311771000/imo:8822612/vessel:CEMI

    She looks as if she tacked across the channel.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Dohvolle wrote: »
    She looks as if she tacked across the channel.

    Under tow with the tug Ocean Challanger. Back to Waterford.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,864 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Under tow with the tug Ocean Challanger. Back to Waterford.

    Makes for interesting tidal flow observation!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Kiwi John


    Was being towed to Waterford but both Cemi and tug Ocean Challenger seem to be drifting out to sea.


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