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A Primal Nut · 16-04-2015 9:14pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Rick Rude springs to mind.

Yeah Road Warrior Animal as well. It was also the reason Bret took no bumps on his return in 2010 and didn't have a proper match against Vince (well he had health reasons as well). I'm not sure if that would have stood up in court but I suppose Lloyd's decided to move on and forget the whole thing.

Tssk · 16-04-2015 10:33pm

Just watching that Sheamus/Noble squash again.Loving the sadistic fan picked up on the mic at the 2 minute mark-he's laughing like a maniac and telling Sheamus to "Give him some more big red"!

gerrybbadd · 16-04-2015 11:46pm

Tssk wrote: »

Just watching that Sheamus/Noble squash again.Loving the sadistic fan picked up on the mic at the 2 minute mark-he's laughing like a maniac and telling Sheamus to "Give him some more big red"!

Noble's sell on that powerboat is awesome, and always freaks me out. Anytime I see that clip, it gives me serious chills

gerrybbadd · 17-04-2015 11:42am

Meltzer has said recently that all these rumours of fall out between Stone Cold and the WWE aren't as they seem - he also said Cena's use of the stunner, and Steve's reaction to it aren't coincidence either.

Will post a link if i can get one

Edit - his remarks were on Wrestling Observer Radio on 16th April:

"... as far as Cena using the Stunner & everything that has gone down (Austin not doing the WWE Network Podcast, being upset about Cena using the Stunner on a recent podcast etc), you would eb very naive to believe it is just a coincidence that it is all happening at the same time"

Stereomaniac · 17-04-2015 12:29pm

So is that the final nail in the coffin of turning John Cena heel then if Steve Austin feuds with him? I think it would be so much better if he had something to do with Seth Rollins. I must say though, I have found John Cena more enjoyable to watch in 2015 than I have in years. Not since his title unification match with Randy Orton at TLC 2012 and his rematch at the Royal Rumble the following month have I found him this likeable. The matches have been consistently pretty good for the United States Championship and he's exciting to watch.

A Primal Nut · 17-04-2015 12:44pm

Nah I think the clean babyface vs the ultimate antihero is the perfect feud. No need for Cena to turn heel. Unless Reigns really takes off, Cena will remain a babyface. I think it's more likely Reigns will turn though.

I'll say we will see Cena vs Rollins before then, presumably for the title.

A Primal Nut · 17-04-2015 12:49pm

Regarding whether it's a work....hmm, I really don't know.

But Cena did do something similar with the Rock. He called him out about going to Hollywood instead of staying with WWE a few years before the Rock returned. On Jericho's podcast, Cena said that although he was saying what he believed; his motivation was to try to get the Rock to return and have some fuel for the fire. So it wouldn't surprise me if Cena is trying to annoy Austin a bit to encourage him to come back. Whether or not Austin is in on it....we'll see I suppose.

Stereomaniac · 17-04-2015 12:54pm

I really would be surprised if Steve Austin can still produce the goods as well though. The reasons that he went from the ring all those years ago would still stand. The peak years of his career actually happened after he was fairly past it physically due to injury. I always look back on his career and think that it was never as good in-ring as it could have been if he hadn't had that match at SummerSlam 1997. However, I'm sure I'd still mark out hard ha.

leggo · 17-04-2015 1:35pm

He's said that he'd be good to go physically. The problem is if he wants to. For the likes of Austin and Taker wrestling occasional matches, they have to train for a good few months to shake the rust off so they're crisp and wrestling the match they want. It'd be slightly different for the likes of Triple H (who's still on the road and presumably training as he would've anyway) and The Rock (who never stopped with the physicality due to his movie roles) so is a much bigger proposition. It's also down to JR's two C's: cash and creative. The cash would be there for Mania 32, but is Cena someone Austin particularly wants to work? I've never heard any indication either way.

Stereomaniac · 17-04-2015 2:29pm

I thought that the closest we ever were to him coming back was a few years ago when they kept comparing CM Punk to him and they did that interview with Jim Ross to promote the WWE 13 video game. Steve Austin has always seemed to like John Cena, as far as I can see. But the stuff with CM Punk seemed like they were potentially building towards something. I guess that was just another opportunity lost. Still, I'd rather Austin vs. Seth Rollins!

rovert · 17-04-2015 2:40pm

Interesting how the WWE European tour has changed in a week. Part way through the English leg of the tour Cena and Rusev joined the line up we got. So now:

The "A" tour - taken from the Budapest, Hungry lineup yesterday:

* Jimmy Uso defeated Bad News Barrett.

*Cesaro & Tyson Kidd defeated New Day & Los Matadores to retain the WWE Tag Team Titles.

*Natalya, Emma & Layla defeated Tamina, Cameron & Rosa Mendes.

*Finn Balór defeated Adam Rose.

*Roman Reigns & Dolph Ziggler defeated Big Show & Sheamus.

*Damien Sandow & Zack Ryder defeated The Miz & Fandango.

*Bray Wyatt defeated Erick Rowan.

*John Cena defeated Rusev to retain U.S. Title.

The stinky sounding "B" tour - taken from Toulouse, France yesterday:

Eden is ring announcer.
*Ryback defeated Kane.

*Prime Time players defeated Axelmania & Zack Ryder.

*Stardust defeated Goldust.

*Lucha dragons defeated Ascension.

*Nikki Bella defeated Naomi.

WWE Championship: Randy Orton defeated Seth Rollins by DQ by JJ Security interference.

Approximately 4,000 fans.

A poor show in term of in ring action.

It was an easy night for all WWE Superstars with a lot of comedy. The kids were wearing Cena shirts. To my surprise audience were largely adult.

Most popular: Randy Orton

Biggest heat: Seth Rollins.

gerrybbadd · 17-04-2015 2:43pm

I have a feeling this could all lead to a big McMahon / Austin feud. Vince is too old to face Austin now, so he could have Cena take on Steve on his behalf.

Vince would say that Cena is everything he wanted Austin to be, but he blew it. He blew the Podcast deal, he walked out on the WWE in the past etc. Cena is the model company man, who would never dream of letting the company down. He's everything Vince wanted from Austin back in 1998 when he won the title for the first time.

I think all this podcast stuff (plus the injuction of selling TShirts etc) is all co-ordinated to a big payoff at Mania next year. It's all too convenient

Of course, Cena would have to turn heel to side with McMahon, but I think in the next 6 months is the right time to do it.

LeeJM · 17-04-2015 2:46pm

Fair play to Zack Ryder making two house shows in different countries yesterday

A Primal Nut · 17-04-2015 5:07pm

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Meltzer has said recently that all these rumours of fall out between Stone Cold and the WWE aren't as they seem - he also said Cena's use of the stunner, and Steve's reaction to it aren't coincidence either.

Will post a link if i can get one

Edit - his remarks were on Wrestling Observer Radio on 16th April:

"... as far as Cena using the Stunner & everything that has gone down (Austin not doing the WWE Network Podcast, being upset about Cena using the Stunner on a recent podcast etc), you would eb very naive to believe it is just a coincidence that it is all happening at the same time"

Just listened to the podcast there and this has been taken out of context. The question was about whether Cena doing Austin's stunner was related to WWE taking the podcast from Austin. In other words, were they pissed with Austin and that's why Cena started doing the stunner - Meltzer said he thought so; otherwise it would be a co-incidence. He was not insinuating that Austin's comments were not genuine; and he wasn't saying that Austin's response was part of the co-incidence.

The co-incidence would be if Cena started using the stunner the same time as Austin lost the podcast; he's saying this wasn't a co-incidence and it's all part of WWE not being happy with Austin. He's not saying the whole thing is a work with Austin involved.

Full question and answer:

Alvarez: "On Steve Austin's podcast he didn't seem thrilled about Cena using a variation of the stunner. Do you think the recent issue between he and WWE with his podcast led to WWE deciding to have Cena do his move and do you think Austin's negative reaction on the move is based on the WWE podcast?"

Meltzer: "I don't know about Austin's reaction, I couldn't say and he can speak for himself. As far as Cena dong the Stunner & everything that has gone down, you would be very naive to believe that it is just a coincidence that this is all happening at the same time."

Meltzer has always said Austin is unlikely to come back for WrestleMania 32, if he suddenly thought otherwise he would make a bigger story of it. Instead it was just a comment in response to a question.

Rock Lesnar · 17-04-2015 5:18pm

Jesus, if he comes back and Cena is who he'll face, there is every chance i will shed tears uncontrollably for a long time.

LeeJM · 17-04-2015 5:38pm

The obvious thing to get Austin back would be tell him if he puts over Cesaro Vince will push him to the moon :pac:

martyos121 · 17-04-2015 6:40pm

If Austin is coming back, I think Triple H is the perfect opponent. Sure it's been done before, but never at WrestleMania. As someone already mentioned, make it Stone Cold vs. Vince II, but have Triple H fight on behalf of Vince and the Authority. There's just so much they could do with that feud, and the promos would be unforgettable. Rollins would be a good choice too, but I'd rather he was in the title match with Reigns (who I boldly predict will be accepted by the fans by then).

SlickRic · 17-04-2015 7:28pm

Cena v Austin in Texas would be all kinds of amazeballs.

You'd have to be there for the crowd reaction alone.

Riddle101 · 17-04-2015 8:35pm

martyos121 wrote: »

If Austin is coming back, I think Triple H is the perfect opponent. Sure it's been done before, but never at WrestleMania. As someone already mentioned, make it Stone Cold vs. Vince II, but have Triple H fight on behalf of Vince and the Authority. There's just so much they could do with that feud, and the promos would be unforgettable. Rollins would be a good choice too, but I'd rather he was in the title match with Reigns (who I boldly predict will be accepted by the fans by then).

Tbh, i'm done with Nostalgia feuds. A feud between HHH and Stone Cold, or HHH and The Rock in 2015 is wrong. There's plenty of wrestlers who could benefit from wrestling Stone Cold/The Rock and getting the rub in the process. Although I'm not a big fan of Stone Cold Vs John Cena either, but at least it's something that hasn't been done before.

I like the idea of Stone Cold Vs Seth Rollins though. If Austin wrestled him at Wrestlmania and put him over, that would be awesome. Bray Wyatt as well.

rovert · 19-04-2015 11:08pm

PWInsider

For those who asked about rumors Daniel Bryan was pulled because of a concussion suffered on the Europoean tour, WWE sources have denied that and said he was pulled because he had been banged up and the company wanted to give him some rest. If there is a deeper, more serious reason beyond that explanation, we have not been able to confirm it. Bryan was flown home from Europe last Wednesday.

Meltzer said the same thing essentially. His status will probably be more clear after Raw and Smackdown tapings this week.

Stereomaniac · 19-04-2015 11:57pm

It's been clear since he has come back that he hasn't been the same competitor that he was before he went out in 2014. A reduced schedule could give him a longer career perhaps.

Riddle101 · 20-04-2015 1:19am

So Bryan is basically becoming like Edge now. Edge kind've toned down his in ring skills after his injuries, and wasn't the same performer after. Although he was still entertaining as hell though.

rovert · 20-04-2015 8:22pm

Curbstomp endeavored

https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/590231696794112000

To be fair I would have SO done it the school yard tbh

Agent Coulson · 20-04-2015 8:24pm

Every time I hear them call curbstomp all that comes to mind is American History X.

Lithium93_ · 20-04-2015 8:26pm

Robbing Rollins of his finishing move, what will the WWE ban next?

martyos121 · 20-04-2015 8:27pm

Ah you just beat me to it. I personally think it's ridiculous that the move has been banned, but the name of it should've been changed from day 1. If a young wrestling fan goes home and googles "curb stomp", a wrestling move isn't what he'll find. I can't recall any instance of Rollins injuring a fellow wrestler with the move, so unless something happened on the Euro tour, this is unwarranted and unnecessary.

LeeJM · 20-04-2015 8:29pm

Personally I have never liked the move so I wont miss it. Expect Rollins to pick up a clean pin on someone tonite then to establish a new finisher. Will he bust out the phoenix splash or something new?

martyos121 · 20-04-2015 8:32pm

LeeJM wrote: »

Personally I have never liked the move so I wont miss it. Expect Rollins to pick up a clean pin on someone tonite then to establish a new finisher. Will he bust out the phoenix splash or something new?

Banning the curb stomp due to safety concerns and then giving him the Phoenix splash is like taking a knife off someone and giving them a gun instead tbh. Terrible way to protect one of the company's top guys.

Lord TSC · 20-04-2015 8:42pm

The Phoenix Splash is way to much of a face move.

Disgusted bout the Curb Stomp though. Thought it looked sick and they had done a good job protecting it and making it look awesome.

Mr.Nice Guy · 20-04-2015 8:51pm

I'm disappointed as I have grown to accept and enjoy the move, having not liked it at first. I doubt he will use the Phoenix Splash as I'd say he will keep that as a special move to whip out on big occasions, a bit like the way Kurt Angle would use the moonsault.

He needs to have something that is pretty quick and which can be used on bigger opponents bearing in mind he's not renowned for hoisting guys up. A Super Kick would fit well, though he hasn't done it before and it's sort of a move Ziggler uses, although not all that often. Maybe something like a Twist of Fate or an Edgecution could work well as I don't think anyone in WWE uses them at present.

At least we got to see that fantastic RKO counter at Wrestlemaia before the ban came into effect.

PS anyone else find it amusing that Rollins for his stip ensured that Orton couldn't use the RKO and now a week later Rollins can't use his finisher either. :pac:

LeeJM · 20-04-2015 8:53pm

Oh yea I agree the phoenix splash will ruin him and it is a total face move but I couldnt think of any other move he has used as a potential finisher. A super kick maybe???

Lord TSC · 20-04-2015 8:55pm

Superkicks are like DDTs now; waaaaay too common in every. single. match. Ziggler and the Usos use it as a common move.

rovert · 20-04-2015 8:55pm

martyos121 · 20-04-2015 9:01pm

I think the Sling Blade would suit him perfectly, but Balor would have to remove it from his arsenal when he's called up since it's not a finishing move for him.

Agent Coulson · 20-04-2015 9:02pm

WWE face another lawsuit.

The WWE is cashing in on Eddie "Hot Stuff" Gilbert even though he's been dead for 20 years ... at least according to his family, which is dragging the league to court to get a cut of the action.
According to docs ... Eddie's dad, Tommy Gilbert, is in charge of the estate and says the WWE is plastering his son's image and likeness all over TV and other media platforms without permission -- and, more importantly, without paying them a dime.
Tommy says old wrestling footage of Eddie -- a pro from '79 until his death of a heart attack in '95 -- is being used to promote the WWE.
Interestingly, Eddie's fam isn't suing to block use of the footage -- they just want a judge to force the WWE to fork over a share of its profits, plus damages.
A WWE rep tells us, "Through the years, WWE has acquired the legal rights to library footage of various former wrestling organizations including Extreme Championship Wrestling (ECW), World Championship Wrestling (WCW) and Mid-Southern Wrestling among many others. WWE has made substantial investments to acquire these copyrighted works and has the legal right to use them."

http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/19/eddie-hot-stuff-gilbert-family-sues-wwe-death-using-image/

Stereomaniac · 20-04-2015 9:05pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qRqvApm9Ac

Agent Coulson · 20-04-2015 9:06pm

Are you Tough Enough?

the groutch · 20-04-2015 9:47pm

sounds like they're trying to turn it into an X-Factor style show.
will be a complete train wreck imo.

Scavenger XIII · 21-04-2015 12:17am

Start using the Sethwalker as a finisher? *Shrug*

Cheese Wagstaff · 21-04-2015 9:11am

rovert wrote: »

Curbstomp endeavored

https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/590231696794112000

To be fair I would have SO done it the school yard tbh

Well, that's awful to hear. Wasn't a huge fan of it when I first saw it, but it's come to look pretty badass. It also had the benefit of being able to be performed at any time, which added to its deadliness. What a shame, it'll be interesting to hear the reason why.

CastorTroy · 21-04-2015 10:49am

Think the only problem I had with the curb stomp was that it was one of those 619 or scissor kick type moves where the opponent was obviously positioned and waiting for it. Apart from that it worked well as a heel move, which I said when he was using it as part of Shield.

Though how will they write people off for movies now? More Kane and Big Show attacks?

rovert · 21-04-2015 11:33am

https://twitter.com/DeathToAllMarks/status/590349802589806593

Chip Whitley · 21-04-2015 11:36am

Nope, not doing it for me compared to the Curb Stomp. Ironically, it technically could be more devastating than a lot of finishers as you're actually planting a face/head into the ground, but the aesthetics of it aren't great, similar to 'dirty deeds'.

ERG89 · 21-04-2015 11:59am

Always found this a lot more vicious, found a one on a woman far worse than this tbh. At least they didn't give him the Test Drive....everyone had that once

rovert · 21-04-2015 12:19pm

Pro Wrestling NOAH has announced on their official site that Takeshi Morishima has decided to retire. Morishima, who held the ROH World Title from February to October of 2007, chose to retire after receiving some news about his doctor after undergoing blood test. Morishima has been dealing with some recurring injuries in the last few years.

NOAH will announce details as to Morishima’s retirement ceremony soon.

Loved his ROH matches 8 years or so ago.

Ridley · 21-04-2015 12:38pm

rovert wrote: »

Curbstomp endeavored

And yet they didn't write it into a show that has the RKO banned. Irritating.

(Also booo, WWE, boo)

rovert · 21-04-2015 2:19pm

A WWE.com article about Daniel Bryan vs. Bad News Barrett notes that Bryan, the current Intercontinental champion, "undergoing diagnostic testing to see if he can defend his title at Extreme Rules."

That term usually refers to medical tests for disease, not an injury. PWInsider.com was told last week that Bryan was pulled as a precautionary measure, but was unable to learn what exactly is wrong. If the WWE.com article is correct, he may not have been pulled for an injury at all.

Could a staph thing as Bryan doesn't look like he washes.

LeeJM · 21-04-2015 2:22pm

rovert wrote: »

Could a staph thing as Bryan doesn't look like he washes.

Harsh but true and made me laugh for a good minute :pac:

rovert · 21-04-2015 2:26pm

Imagine if he had head lice and had to shave his hair and beard.

rovert · 21-04-2015 2:28pm

Casting notices for WWE Tough Enough series note "fit, athletic, charismatic" and competitors within the age range of 18-25. Triple H lied.

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