Who thinks Trump will win?

So this is where the Trumpists have retreated to.

Strumms wrote: »

Biden doing surprisingly well in the polls. Biden has leads of somewhere between five and eight points in a number of states Trump won four years ago... that’s a bit mental.

I think the Americans are starting to realize that in the world right now a steady hand and an even temperament is a requirement.

Trump has come across as a guy who is increasingly just winging it. In his public appearances he looks increasingly flustered, increasingly very unpresidential both in how he presents himself and the content and manner of what he says.

This is interesting, not great news for Donald...

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/20/politics/poll-of-the-week-joe-biden-blowout-donald-trump-election/index.html

Well if you consider CNN a reputable source it would explain your optimism!!!!

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well if you consider CNN a reputable source it would explain your optimism!!!!

It's better than no source at all.

briany wrote: »

One positive of Trump's that his supporters will often point out is that he's not led his nation into any new foreign wars, but negating that is that he's led his nation into a whole heap of domestic discord, and instead of acting as a real leader and looking to salve that, he's been reveling in the division. The trouble with that is, aside from being an amoral way to lead, it's a style of leadership that will lead to a country eating itself from within. A house divided against itself cannot stand.

It ain't Trump supporters that have been rioting/looting/murdering/toppling statues/intimidating citizens/destroying city centres/destroying businesses...he can't do anything about them unless he gets requested by the State Governor or City Mayor.

Has there been any city or state he has refused to send security reinforces into?

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well if you consider CNN a reputable source it would explain your optimism!!!!

If you have actual evidence to prove the information I posted is not reputable ? Actual evidence as opposed to hyperbole ?

Silentcorner wrote: »

It ain't Trump supporters that have been rioting/looting/murdering/toppling statues/intimidating citizens/destroying city centres/destroying businesses...he can't do anything about them unless he gets requested by the State Governor or City Mayor.

Has there been any city or state he has refused to send security reinforces into?

I'm not talking about the people in the streets, here. My post was about Donald Trump himself. He's supposed to be the president of all U.S. citizens, even the ones who don't like him, crazy as that may sound. And in that capacity, he should be a mediator and appeal for calm, and use that calm as a better footing to get the issues underpinning the unrest sorted out. Not use inflammatory, divisive language that helps nothing except push a caustic us vs. them agenda. I'm sure getting that arranged would be no sweat to the man who just helped broker peace between UAE and Israel, right?

Billy Mays wrote: »

Bizarre that some people think rowing back on protecting the environment is a good thing

Well, that would depend on what's exactly it is that's been done in name of "protecting the environment" now wouldn't it and rowing back on some of that nonsense (which is all the POTUS has done) is for sure a good thing.

Glad you agree that the other three things on that list are not bizarre to see as being good though and reasons to vote Trump in for another 4 years.

The Dems can see the flaws in Biden but Trump’s supporters are beyond reasoning with. He’s a cult leader who has great difficulty attracting high-quality people to work for him. Even when they do, he can’t tolerate honest feedback and ends up firing them pronto. Trump is a great salesman - he must have been to persuade banks to keep lending him money through all those bankruptcies - but he’s no good at running a country. In the end he has had to fall back on family members as he did at his company. However, despite every grotesque thing he has done, his support, especially among the poorly educated, remains firm. He’ll lose the popular vote but could still win the election.

Ardillaun wrote: »

The Dems can see the flaws in Biden but Trump’s supporters are beyond reasoning with. He’s a cult leader who has great difficulty attracting high-quality people to work for him. Even when they do, he can’t tolerate honest feedback and ends up firing them pronto. Trump is a great salesman - he must have been to persuade banks to keep lending him money through all those bankruptcies - but he’s no good at running a country. In the end he has had to fall back on family members as he did at his company. However, despite every grotesque thing he has done, his support, especially among the poorly educated, remains firm. He’ll lose the popular vote but could still win the election.

List them, please - thanks.

Tell me how wrote: »

Here you go.

Trump Atrocities.

List stands at 889 currently.

lol @ all the "According to .." in that pathetic list of nothing burgers.

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

36/889 items have "according to", i.e. 4%.

Which ones in particular do you have a problem with?

I spent 15 mins skimming them and what I read were nothing burger nonsense, far from the list of "grotesque" things that I asked for.

I've seen your side of the aisle complain about 5 minute video clips that someone has posted to back up an argument, and yet you expect me to read a novel? Which is what 900 paragraphs amounts to.

Pick the ten worst from that list (in your view) and I'll address them but I'm not doing them all.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Quit cooking the books:

Once again you are ignoring the post, obviously deliberately at this stage. Let me point it out for you again. I'll even take out the Covid piece, you know as Trumpists love to ignore that Covid happened:

Are they really. Between his inauguration and February 2020 manufacturing jobs in the US increased by 483k from 12,369k to 12,852k. That's an increase of 3.9% over 3 years or an average 1.3% per annum. Not sure if I'd call that exceptional by any stretch of the imagination. By contrast under Obama manufacturing jobs increased by nearly 1 million.

namloc1980 wrote: »

Once again you are ignoring the post, obviously deliberately at this stage. Let me point it out for you again. I'll even take out the Covid piece, you know as Trumpists love to ignore that Covid happened:

Are they really. Between his inauguration and February 2020 manufacturing jobs in the US increased by 483k from 12,369k to 12,852k. That's an increase of 3.9% over 3 years or an average 1.3% per annum. Not sure if I'd call that exceptional by any stretch of the imagination. By contrast under Obama manufacturing jobs increased by nearly 1 million.

But some are “predicting” he’s bringing manufacturing jobs back.
That obviously cancels out your facts immediately.