The Masters 2020

eagle eye · 13-11-2020 2:43pm

Rory really needs a manager to knock him into shape.
This thing of having your buddy on the bag is a bad idea. You need a top class caddy whose not afraid to tell you they don't like your club selection and who can help you read greens at a high level.
It appears to me that Rory likes his little comforts too much and just doesn't have the hunger he used to have.
He really needs somebody to start running the show and get him back to his best. It's very clear the talent is still there.

ThewhiteJesus · 13-11-2020 2:44pm

The fact mcilroy started using butch a week before the masters said it all, tweaks take time to set in

Keano · 13-11-2020 2:45pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Rory really needs a manager to knock him into shape.
This thing of having your buddy on the bag is a bad idea. You need a top class caddy whose not afraid to tell you they don't like your club selection and who can help you read greens at a high level.
It appears to me that Rory likes his little comforts too much and just doesn't have the hunger he used to have.
He really needs somebody to start running the show and get him back to his best. It's very clear the talent is still there.

This always crops up, Rory is one the best drivers of the ball in golf. He took driver off 13 and hit a bad one, it happens to them all.

13-11-2020 2:48pm

Keano wrote: »

This always crops up, Rory is one the best drivers of the ball in golf. He took driver off 13 and hit a bad one, it happens to them all.

To be fair Keano, he missed the first green from 165yrds and the second green from 30yrds yesterday, I don’t think the focus is on one bad drive.

ThewhiteJesus · 13-11-2020 2:49pm

How is the course today is it still wet ? Greens still plugging?

fullstop · 13-11-2020 2:53pm

Keano wrote: »

This always crops up, Rory is one the best drivers of the ball in golf. He took driver off 13 and hit a bad one, it happens to them all.

He does need a kick up the hole though. Looks like he’s just going through the motions here. Needs a “you’re Rory ****ing McIlroy” type chat. The Butch thing is a moot point IMO, just smacks of desperation cause Bannon can’t get to the states.

Horrendous break for Scott there.

frink · 13-11-2020 2:53pm

Keano wrote: »

This always crops up, Rory is one the best drivers of the ball in golf. He took driver off 13 and hit a bad one, it happens to them all.

Followed up with another bad one on 14 and looked like a rushed chip for another bogey.

I've always defended Rory but he needs to change up something and I would definitely start with the caddie.

I hope he finishes well and bounces back this afternoon. Conditions seemed perfect for him but he is one of the only 'top' players over par at the moment

Deeper Blue · 13-11-2020 2:56pm

Some two putt from DJ on 14, must've been over 100 feet

Keano · 13-11-2020 2:56pm

frink wrote: »

Followed up with another bad one on 14 and looked like a rushed chip for another bogey.

I've always defended Rory but he needs to change up something and I would definitely start with the caddie.

I hope he finishes well and bounces back this afternoon. Conditions seemed perfect for him but he is one of the only 'top' players over par at the moment

Why not start with the coach? His game has gone off the boil and the one thing that hasn't changes is Bannon?

Deeper Blue · 13-11-2020 2:58pm

Keano wrote: »

Why not start with the coach? His game has gone off the boil and the one thing that hasn't changes is Bannon?

He should move to Butch permanently, surely Bannon should've improved the wedge game somewhat by now

Mantis Toboggan · 13-11-2020 2:59pm

Keano wrote: »

Why not start with the coach? His game has gone off the boil and the one thing that hasn't changes is Bannon?

Bannon has been isolating in Ireland for most of the year.

McIlroy pretty much coachless all year.

bustercherry · 13-11-2020 3:00pm

frink wrote: »

Followed up with another bad one on 14 and looked like a rushed chip for another bogey.

I've always defended Rory but he needs to change up something and I would definitely start with the caddie.

I hope he finishes well and bounces back this afternoon. Conditions seemed perfect for him but he is one of the only 'top' players over par at the moment

I'm confused, bad drive on a hole where the play is driver and a bad chip. The caddy doesn't take the shots.

It's the execution is the problem not the shot selection.

frink · 13-11-2020 3:02pm

Keano wrote: »

Why not start with the coach? His game has gone off the boil and the one thing that hasn't changes is Bannon?

Maybe not having Bannon available to him is the problem. Wonder has bannon been on the range with him at all this year?

He hasn't won a major in 6 years but don't think he has been a real contender in one either apart from the Masters when Reed one. Happy to be corrected on that.

I still think when is he in the zone, there is very few better than him. It just feels like those times are slipping away

Keano · 13-11-2020 3:02pm

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Bannon has been isolating in Ireland for most of the year.

McIlroy pretty much coachless all year.

Not ideal prep so for a stab at the grand slam!

Anyway back to the leaders!

Degag · 13-11-2020 3:05pm

Just tuned in and great that we seem to be getting full coverage of the end of Rd 1. Thought it would only be featured groups and the like

Degag · 13-11-2020 3:07pm

Quietly confident its gonna be a fantastic Masters anyhow. Pretty much all the big boys hovering plus Tiger & Phil and even Bernard Langer for the nostalgia factor!

eagle eye · 13-11-2020 3:18pm

Mickelson's short game is still wonderful at 50 years of age.

CMcsporty · 13-11-2020 3:20pm

Keano wrote: »

Why not start with the coach? His game has gone off the boil and the one thing that hasn't changes is Bannon?

What?
Bannon made him
I dont think he could be that treacherous

It's his head.
It's always been his head.

And his putting
He has worked with Paul Hurrion. He has worked with Dave Stockton. He has worked with Phil Kenyon. He has worked with Brad Faxon.

Wedges have been a problem for 5 years now.

He's in the water on 16 now.............

Talked about how his golf game felt good in The Masters press conference on Wed.

Keano · 13-11-2020 3:26pm

CMcsporty wrote: »

What?
Bannon made him
I dont think he could be that treacherous

It's his head.
It's always been his head.

And his putting
He has worked with Paul Hurrion. He has worked with Dave Stockton. He has worked with Phil Kenyon. He has worked with Brad Faxon.

Wedges have been a problem for 5 years now.

He's in the water on 16 now.............

Talked about how his golf game felt good in The Masters press conference on Wed.

Welcome to Augusta!

CMcsporty · 13-11-2020 3:29pm

Keano wrote: »

Welcome to Augusta!

If only he talked rubbish just at Augusta!

ThewhiteJesus · 13-11-2020 3:35pm

I picked fritelli Wolff and Fitzpatrick so happy so far, but once they get the greens super dry it’s a different course

GreeBo · 13-11-2020 3:36pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Lovely opening round from Tiger. Looked in total control of his swing.

He had some bad issues controlling the spin on wedges towards the end, but so nice to watch him swing within himself, especially from the tee.

Dr. Bre · 13-11-2020 3:50pm

Van rooyen withdrew

GreeBo · 13-11-2020 3:52pm

Langer making a holy show of a lot of these young fellas.

Deeper Blue · 13-11-2020 3:53pm

McIlroy has been really poor

GreeBo · 13-11-2020 3:54pm

El Sueño wrote: »

McIlroy has been really poor

Nice chip though.

Is there anything more obnoxious about the masters than "Fore please"?:mad:

moycullen14 · 13-11-2020 3:57pm

One of the advantages of no 'patrons' is you get a much better sense of the course layout - especially the slopes.

Morrison J · 13-11-2020 3:58pm

What a brilliant round from DJ. Coasted to -7. Best player on the planet at the moment.

John Divney · 13-11-2020 4:01pm

I think the low sun helps in showing the green contours too. Rory isn’t making the cut tbh. Got to love Langer, he’s smashing his spoon and long irons in to these greens. Amazing job by the amateur Augenstein to finish 3 under after his start he looked petrified

Degag · 13-11-2020 4:06pm

John Divney wrote: »

I think the low sun helps in showing the green contours too. Rory isn’t making the cut tbh. Got to love Langer, he’s smashing his spoon and long irons in to these greens. Amazing job by the amateur Augenstein to finish 3 under after his start he looked petrified

If the scoring continues you must be looking at -2 or -3 as the cut, especially with no 10 shot rule. Rory needs 67 minimum IMO probably 66.

ThewhiteJesus · 13-11-2020 4:06pm

moycullen14 wrote: »

One of the advantages of no 'patrons' is you get a much better sense of the course layout - especially the slopes.

It’s the first year they’ve allowed pictures from the air aswell madly enough but yes makes a difference for viewing

CMcsporty · 13-11-2020 4:08pm

GreeBo wrote: »

Langer making a holy show of a lot of these young fellas.

I wonder is he the oldest person ever to shoot a 68 in the opening round at Augusta?

CMcsporty · 13-11-2020 4:10pm

Morrison J wrote: »

What a brilliant round from DJ. Coasted to -7. Best player on the planet at the moment.

I hope he wins this.....
NO sorry. Tiger! I hope Tiger wins. 730 tonight tee time
Love it!

eagle eye · 13-11-2020 4:15pm

I've a feeling we are going to see different greens for the second round.

LuckyGent88 · 13-11-2020 4:21pm

moycullen14 wrote: »

One of the advantages of no 'patrons' is you get a much better sense of the course layout - especially the slopes.

The new camera angles and drone shots are excellent. Really getting more appreciation of the actual slopes around the greens.

Just so frustrating watching Rory. He hit two bad drives on his first 18 and cost him two shots at a crucial time. But it’s his irons which are deplorable.

Terrible on 1, 4, 10, 11, 16 ( that was actually pathetic) and even 17 and 18 weren’t great.

Probably do his RP thing from last year now and shoot 65 second round.

CMcsporty · 13-11-2020 4:21pm

Very good insight there from McGinley as to what happened to McIlroy on 16th.

Mantis Toboggan · 13-11-2020 4:26pm

Pity about McIlroy just hasn't been his year since Covid.

eagle eye · 13-11-2020 4:27pm

DJ is a great frontrunner, I'm expecting him to go low again.

Deeper Blue · 13-11-2020 4:28pm

Jesus they didn't give DJ and Rory much of a break between rounds there!

castletownman · 13-11-2020 4:29pm

Earlier, McGinley said it will be unlikely if Fritelli is still there at the top come Sunday.

I wonder would he be so dismissive if it was Fleetwood or Casey of feckin' Tyrrell Hatton (whom hit the water two holes in a row and they entirely ignored).

GreeBo · 13-11-2020 4:57pm

CMcsporty wrote: »

I wonder is he the oldest person ever to shoot a 68 in the opening round at Augusta?

Last time he started with a round in the 60s he won

meath4sam · 13-11-2020 4:57pm

What’s with the buzzing noise in the back round like a drone or a leave blower on sky sports.

Deeper Blue · 13-11-2020 5:09pm

I know it'll never happen but if Augusta introduced Green Fees for say a month every year, how much would people be willing to pay per round?

Dr. Bre · 13-11-2020 5:16pm

So good Dustin

GreeBo · 13-11-2020 5:18pm

meath4sam wrote: »

What’s with the buzzing noise in the back round like a drone or a leave blower on sky sports.

There are drones all over the course it seems.

meath4sam · 13-11-2020 5:18pm

GreeBo wrote: »

There are drones all over the course it seems.

Around 11 and 12 you hear them on sky

rovers_runner · 13-11-2020 5:19pm

castletownman wrote: »

Earlier, McGinley said it will be unlikely if Fritelli is still there at the top come Sunday.

I wonder would he be so dismissive if it was Fleetwood or Casey of feckin' Tyrrell Hatton (whom hit the water two holes in a row and they entirely ignored).

McGinley is a *mod delete*
Spent hours talking about Bryson going to have a wedge to 13 and he ends up with 7 on day one...

@rovers_runner, please refresh yourself on the forum charter, no personal insults wanted in this forum. Tks

Whiplash85 · 13-11-2020 5:25pm

They say the masters really starts on the back 9 on Sunday. Could very well be over bar the shouting today if this continues from Johnson.

eagle eye · 13-11-2020 5:26pm

El SueÃ&#177 wrote: »

I know it'll never happen but if Augusta introduced Green Fees for say a month every year, how much would people be willing to pay per round?

500 euro.

kippy · 13-11-2020 5:32pm

GreeBo wrote: »

There are drones all over the course it seems.

They've been mentioned at least once every half hour by the commentary team. You'd swear they were a new invention!!

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