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Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 3 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

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  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    Was only a matter of time after interview. Dublin job next year if davy doesn't get in first
    And milk them dry bit of milking their mind you.

    I think Davys 5 year plan is Wexford next year then straight into a 3 year run with Dublin and finally a 3 year draft back at Clare. Then semi retirement with consultancy work..


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    BloodyBill wrote: »
    I think Davys 5 year plan is Wexford next year then straight into a 3 year run with Dublin and finally a 3 year draft back at Clare. Then semi retirement with consultancy work..

    More like a 7 Yr plan


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RIP Harry Ryan deepest sympathy to Kevin all the Ryan family hopefully you are at peace.


  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Alonzo Moseley


    Fred Daly wrote: »
    RIP Harry Ryan deepest sympathy to Kevin all the Ryan family hopefully you are at peace.

    Terrible sad for a family who have been pummelled in recent years
    Great hurler

    RIP


  • Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭sportsmaddad


    brookville wrote: »
    This game is a 50-50 game.Both teams will be happy with the way the year has went and will be glad to be left standing.If you consider Waterford missing stephen bennet,2×mahonys and obviously the two high profile omissions it has being a great year.They were neck and neck with limerick down the home stretch.
    I agree, I hear a lot of talk that WD playing 3rd week in a row will be their undoing. But I don't think it's that simple. They have a freshness about them, plenty of pace and good stickwork, throw in the intensity that Cahill seems to have instilled in them. And we don't need reminding of the last Championship encounter...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    Cast your minds back to our first match against Dublin in which we ran out of steam in the second half. It appears that getting the fitness/stamina levels right in this championship has been challenging for teams. Matches week after week, a two week break - who knows what's best. It's an unusual year, anything goes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 869 ✭✭✭carq


    brookville wrote: »
    This game is a 50-50 game.Both teams will be happy with the way the year has went and will be glad to be left standing.If you consider Waterford missing stephen bennet,2×mahonys and obviously the two high profile omissions it has being a great year.They were neck and neck with limerick down the home stretch.
    We know we will need a to hit the ground running We have being forewarned.Waterford like galway have momentum and we have freshness.We seen cavan yesterday havent played for the last number of weeks it didnt affect them.
    It's being obvious since the two challenge matches before the championship we have our danger men close to goals and we have being creating and getting goals.This has being a big plus cause this has being missing for a few years.
    Colin hasn't hit the heights yet but it's now we need these leaders to stand up.
    Fergal horan is the ref saturday night.I think he is a decent ref but he is a tipp man as is Liam cahill.I wonder will this be raised over the coming days.



    Believe me, I would prefer ANY other ref in the country to Horgan.
    He has a history of terrible game changing calls, most of which go against waterford when he officiates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 ClubFirst


    Another Kilkenny Legend has died today. RIP Denis Heaslip


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭kilkennyboy


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40055042.html?type=amp
    Rip Denis absolute gentleman
    I attached pic ok kilkenny 1963 in New York after beating Waterford in all Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭JJs Left Hand


    Grats wrote: »
    Message to Brian Cody - get your complaint in regarding the ref for Saturday beforehand. Otherwise don't do a Sheedy on it and blame him afterwards. As a poster mentioned - Tipp ref and Tipp man managing the opposition!

    Can we not do this please. Its embarrassing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40055042.html?type=amp
    Rip Denis absolute gentleman
    I attached pic ok kilkenny 1963 in New York after beating Waterford in all Ireland.

    Thanks for posting that


  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Mad about baa baas


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40055042.html?type=amp
    Rip Denis absolute gentleman
    I attached pic ok kilkenny 1963 in New York after beating Waterford in all Ireland.

    Front row 3rd from left? Remember going to his shop as a young lad.. like a cross between alladins cave and dunbelievables shop.. my father always said if they didn't have it it could not be got..he always said denis was a very stylish hurler too.rip


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭kilkennyboy


    Thats him .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭redlead


    Grats wrote: »
    Message to Brian Cody - get your complaint in regarding the ref for Saturday beforehand. Otherwise don't do a Sheedy on it and blame him afterwards. As a poster mentioned - Tipp ref and Tipp man managing the opposition!

    I'm sure one of the players might have a second cousin from Tipp too ;-)

    Its funny because if you were to look at the Waterford thread there is pages complaining about how the ref is always out to get Waterford. Hes not going to favour anyone and will no doubt do his best. Hes a bad ref in my opinion and will make some bad calls but let's just hope they even themselves out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Alonzo Moseley


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40055042.html?type=amp
    Rip Denis absolute gentleman
    I attached pic ok kilkenny 1963 in New York after beating Waterford in all Ireland.

    Lovely piece by PM and that marvelous photo with the Bronx in the background.

    Sad few days for Kilkenny hurling


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    redlead wrote: »
    I'm sure one of the players might have a second cousin from Tipp too ;-)

    Its funny because if you were to look at the Waterford thread there is pages complaining about how the ref is always out to get Waterford. Hes not going to favour anyone and will no doubt do his best. Hes a bad ref in my opinion and will make some bad calls but let's just hope they even themselves out.

    In life in general Waterford feel there is always some where else out to get them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Called into Heaslips a few months ago to chat with Denis. Passed the shop today and saw the ambulance.

    Harry Ryan I knew in my youth and trained us for a spell. He was a gentleman.

    RIP Both men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Fred Daly wrote: »
    In life in general Waterford feel there is always some where else out to get them.

    Bit rich now coming from the man constantly posting about how yer lads have been wronged over the years


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    Grats wrote: »
    Oh I absolutely agree. My post was in jest after last weekends embarrassing comments from Sheedy after Tipp were beaten. I posted that Sheedy should have complained before the match if he thought it was going to be an issue. Mind you he wasn't on his own, Donal O'Grady and Cusack agreed with him, as did some journalists. Don't see anything from them ahead of the match this weekend.

    I don't expect Cody has a problem with it.

    The hypocrisy in that post is incredible after comments from last years final and the 2013 loss to cork, yere ex players know how to keep Barry Kelly in the limelight anyway. Its "criminal" some managers would say.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-20316405.html
    Bit of light reading for some of the lads on here just to jog the Memory.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bit rich now coming from the man constantly posting about how yer lads have been wronged over the years

    I am talking about Waterford people the city they blame everybody else about there downfalls problems, where constantly am i posting about lads been wronged over the years. I see you got a thumbs up from a person that has the personallatiy of a corpse .


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The best of luck to our teams and mentors that are playing this weekend in there semi finals camogie hurling , on a week that we lost two ex stars Rip both of ye.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Fred Daly wrote: »
    where constantly am i posting about lads been wronged over the years. .

    You're obviously suffering from an acute lack of self awareness so this is where the conversation ends


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭kilkennyboy


    Will be interesting to see what cody goes with.I think he will go after the Waterford fullback line who gave up plenty goal chances against clare.
    It might be very old style but i can see alot of long aerial delivery into the square. And bypass the middle 3rd that Waterford flood.cahill could go with a sweeper but that probably frees up cillian in our defense.and our 5 forwards would be better than there 5 forwards .i think we could score
    3+goals and that should get us over the line.For a rematch with Galway


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    Looking forward to the match Saturday evening.Our form has being up and down. Very good in the first half against dublin and threw the ball around well.We hung in against galway and richie turned the screw where galway had a few chances to kill us off but didnt.
    Colin and Walter have being substituted in the last two matches.It would be a big call to drop both but their form isnt up to scratch at the moment.We could see someone like billy ryan start.He was sharp in the first half against dublin.His pace will cause defenders trouble.
    Jamie barron is such a key player and link man.Conor Browne is usually deployed to these type of players.
    mossy will try keep de burca occupied and his direct running causes galway trouble
    Eoin cody was more comfortable corner foward the last day.He needs to be near the goal.The area between the two 40's will be a huge battlefield and will go along way to deciding this match.Waterford will bring huge workrate and they have a good spread of scorers.We will have to ready or our year finishes Saturday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 957 ✭✭✭BloodyBill


    Hard to see Cody leaving off both Fennelly and Walter Walsh. I think Fennelly will start and probably play well. Walter is out of form, in fact he hasn't played well in a few years. Neither of them are good subs to bring on in my opinion. They both need time to get up to the pitch of a match. As a neutral I think it could be a great game if Waterford survive the first 10min onslaught on their fullback line. I think Cody will try and end it quick but im not sure there are going to be all these goal chances there was against Clare. Id be surprised if Cahill doesn't have De Burca much closer to Prunty and crowd it abit from the start back there . Ultimately I think it ll come down to Richie Hogan again coming on and getting a couple of opportunities and taking them. Brown will have to win his battle and win it well.Kilkenny by 2.
    How do Kilkenny people see the other semi going?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    Unfortunately for Wally and C Fennelly, and Kilkenny, they are off form. It was noticeable how our movement improved dramatically after both were substituted against Galway.

    One step away from an All Ireland Final appearance, there's no room for sentiment. We don't know if the two players have found their form in the last two weeks. If they haven't, and I feel they haven't, I expect R Hogan and Billy Ryan to start. Deegan will most likely come in for the injured Leahy.

    There's no guarantee that bringing Hogan on would work again. Can't risk falling behind and playing catch up for the rest of the match. An all out attack from the throw in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,058 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Grats wrote: »
    Unfortunately for Wally and C Fennelly, and Kilkenny, they are off form. It was noticeable how our movement improved dramatically after both were substituted against Galway.

    One step away from an All Ireland Final appearance, there's no room for sentiment. We don't know if the two players have found their form in the last two weeks. If they haven't, and I feel they haven't, I expect R Hogan and Billy Ryan to start. Deegan will most likely come in for the injured Leahy.

    There's no guarantee that bringing Hogan on would work again. Can't risk falling behind and playing catch up for the rest of the match. An all out attack from the throw in.

    Fennelly scored 1-1 against Dublin and had an outstanding year at club level. One off day against Galway doesn't mean he is off form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    blackcard wrote: »
    Fennelly scored 1-1 against Dublin and had an outstanding year at club level. One off day against Galway doesn't mean he is off form

    He's clearly off form, as confirmed by the man himself in interviews. His club form has deserted him. But if he regained it in training over the last two weeks, great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭kilkennyboy


    Easy have a off day when Daithi bourke is making you .probably best fullback since hickey or jj.what did you expect to say. "He is to good for me"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    Easy have a off day when Daithi bourke is making you .probably best fullback since hickey or jj.what did you expect to say. "He is to good for me"

    Who did D Burke mark after Fennelly went off?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    I'd say deegan will get his place back.Leahy is out.
    Although it's a big call with fennelly and Walter I think we will go with billy ryan and richie hogan


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭kilkennyboy


    Grats wrote: »
    Who did D Burke mark after Fennelly went off?
    A better hurler .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    A better hurler .

    Cody just might start the better hurler!!! .


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭kilkennyboy


    He struggles to finish games even for danesfort. So fennelly probably safer option. Big call drop the captain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    He struggles to finish games even for danesfort. So fennelly probably safer option. Big call drop the captain

    He does. Wouldn't be the first time that Cody dropped the captain. I would love to see C Fennelly line out but only if he's right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 517 ✭✭✭benji79


    I’m actually expecting a big one from Fennelly, wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see him bang a couple of goals.

    Think Eoin Cody might really announce his arrival to this level at weekend too


  • Registered Users Posts: 96 ✭✭The_Ghost


    First time in a while going into one of these games as favourites feels weird but I’m confident we’re gonna get the win in a really competitive game. Looking forward to the team news. Not only did fennelly score 1-1 against Dublin he also set up a goal, he’s captain and had a great club campaign for me he has to start. Hogan was brilliant against Galway but terrible against Dublin so I wouldn’t start him. Wally got a few points of the bench against cork last year and I think he’ll be lucky to keep his place.

    Waterford go for goals a lot and we leave a lot of space in front of our back line and if there’s sweepers in play they play that system better and have a better sweeper which is slightly worrying. They also have as strong as panel as ours. I’d say Tommy Walsh might pick up Dessie who’s a fantastic hurler but struggled against limerick. Other than that I’d say the matchups will take on a live of their own.

    Leahy is a massive loss as it’s the type of game that would suit him. Both teams could give up goals I’d expect colin and Tj to be inside they both seem to play well against Waterford too so hopefully. Their fullback line was poor against a poor clare side who should have got it back to 2 points coming down the stretch but they looked good against limerick so it’s really hard to know. Team I expect

    Murphy
    Delaney Lawor Walsh
    Deegan Walsh Buckley
    Fogerty Browne
    Cody Mossy Donnolly
    Ryan Fennelly Tj.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭kilkennyboy


    I'm the same think the gun is to his head and his career in a kilkenny Jersey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    I'm the same think the gun is to his head and his career in a kilkenny Jersey

    To be fair to C Fennelly I don't think it's a matter of a gun to his head or worry about his career. He's had a long few years, has lost form, he realises it as does Cody. If he doesn't start that's it in a nutshell.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭sasta le


    He is talented Hitler no doubt but talking to KK men his attitude stinks
    Also off the field behaviour I've seen videos of him


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Grats


    sasta le wrote: »
    He is talented Hitler no doubt but talking to KK men his attitude stinks
    Also off the field behaviour I've seen videos of him

    Of Hitler?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭redlead


    sasta le wrote: »
    He is talented Hitler no doubt but talking to KK men his attitude stinks
    Also off the field behaviour I've seen videos of him

    He really turned the German economy around in the 30s but I'd have to agree with you on his attitude, what did the Jews ever do to anyone ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭JJs Left Hand


    My only concern with TJ in the full forward line is it makes de Burcas positioning easy as he just sits deep in front of the full back line whereas if you leave Colin inside with TJ outside you make him make a decision - does he leave TJ one on one to whomever is detailed to mark him (presumably the half back with the red helmet who marked Tony Kelly whose name has completely slipped my mind) or does he push out to help.

    Is Fives fit? He's a big loss for Waterford - really good hurler imo


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭tbiggertycome


    Kil v Wat
    E Murphy
    C Delaney H Lawlor T Walsh
    P Walsh C Buckley P Deegan
    C Browne C Fogarty
    J Donnelly TJ Reid M Keoghan
    B Ryan R Hogan E Cody
    Subs
    D Brennan
    P Murphy
    J Holden
    C Wallace
    R Reid
    A Murphy
    C Fennelly
    W Walsh
    L Blanchfield
    G Aylward
    N Brassil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭JJs Left Hand


    Big calls there in fairness


  • Registered Users Posts: 517 ✭✭✭benji79


    Cody isn’t one for dummy teams but this smells of it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    benji79 wrote: »
    Cody isn’t one for dummy teams but this smells of it!

    It's not a dummy team.That team will start.


  • Registered Users Posts: 361 ✭✭droppingball


    benji79 wrote: »
    Cody isn’t one for dummy teams but this smells of it!

    No chance that is a dummy team, classic cody the boys will be ready for road coming off the bench


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    benji79 wrote: »
    I’m actually expecting a big one from Fennelly, wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see him bang a couple of goals.

    Think Eoin Cody might really announce his arrival to this level at weekend too

    Keep throwing out names of players you expect to have a ‘big one’ and eventually select the ‘one’.......v Galway was anyone suggesting ‘richie’ as the super sub that might ‘turn the games’ on its head....?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    As a wexford supporter I can confirm every championship game against us sense 2017 Cody has picked a dummy team

    Actually famously did it against Waterford in 2016 springing Blanchfield

    Personal opinion I'd keep richie til the last 20 mins, I think 1 of Wally or Fennelly will start but not sure which one of them


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