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Why do the Irish craft breweries use 440ml cans?

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  • #52
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    beachhead wrote: »
    Just to upset all the the purists.Bulmers have reduced their can size to 440ml but not the price(retail price,that is).

    I think that's the biggest issue people have with the 440ml cans. I've seen people complaining that some brewers (can't remember who was mentioned) have switched to them from 500ml bottles, but haven't reduced the price. Shrinkflation has been around a long time - just look at how various chocolate bars have shrunk over the years without getting any cheaper - so it was probably inevitable it would happen with beer sooner rather than later.


  • #53
    loyatemu
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    Wicklow Wolf have gone from 500ml bottles to 440ml cans. As I mentioned earlier, IMO the quality of the beer has improved, and they're now generally available @ 3 for €9 whereas I think the bottles were more expensive. But you know it's consumer choice, if your main concern is price per unit of alcohol there are cheaper options out there than craft beer.


  • #54
    BonnieSituation
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    beachhead wrote: »
    Just to upset all the the purists.Bulmers have reduced their can size to 440ml but not the price(retail price,that is).Correct about the US pint measure.The US mile is also,shorter than the Imperial mile

    There's definitely been a period where the UK cans have been less than 500ml (ie. 440ml) for a lot of mainstream booze. It was always especially noticeable when you'd have a stray Magners or Guinness in the fridge from a trip up North or to Glasto etc.


  • #55
    Mellor
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    irish_goat wrote: »
    Are you based somewhere warm?

    Yes. Sydney. And I agree that’s the reason.
    The idea of 500ml cans outdoors in summer...ugh.
    Carries through to bars also. Pints (568ml) are available, but 425ml is standard.

    sabat wrote: »
    More importantly, why can't you get these here?

    https://www.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_705890/asahi-super-dry-can-2l

    I actually like Asahi as a solid all-round lager and I'd definitely keep some of these in the gaff, even just for parties.

    Some beers are coming in 2-3L like the above. Many breweries/craft bars selling growlers of tap beer to take home. Getting warm not an issue as they are kept chilled.


  • #56
    Beanstalk
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    loyatemu wrote: »
    Aldi Brasserie - 10x250ml stubbies for a fiver!

    Its no Biere D'Or, sadly unavailable now


  • #57
    Macy0161
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    loyatemu wrote: »
    Wicklow Wolf have gone from 500ml bottles to 440ml cans. As I mentioned earlier, IMO the quality of the beer has improved, and they're now generally available @ 3 for €9 whereas I think the bottles were more expensive. But you know it's consumer choice, if your main concern is price per unit of alcohol there are cheaper options out there than craft beer.
    Yes, they told me that's there standard pricing, which it does seem to be in off licences (Musgrave outlets not so much). My local to work off licence was 3 for €10 when they were bottles.
    beachhead wrote: »
    Just to upset all the the purists.Bulmers have reduced their can size to 440ml but not the price(retail price,that is).Correct about the US pint measure.The US mile is also,shorter than the Imperial mile
    C&C think their craft, given how often they tag (particularly in the US) magners as #irishcraftbeer on instagram...


  • #58
    L1011
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    Beanstalk wrote: »
    Its no Biere D'Or, sadly unavailable now

    When my brother-in-law was doing up a holiday house a decade or so ago, crates and crates of bold Biere D'Or were the usual fuel for late evening painting / tiling / whatever sessions. Good times.


  • #59
    omegaodie
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭omegaodie


    In a way this an anwser to all. Right now i'm drinking a PINT of beer. it's 50% home brew, 18€ / 40(ish) per pint, 50% galahad 8.??€ / 12. No bottling, still fizzy, tastes nice, **** yeah.


  • #60
    [Deleted User]
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    I don't mind paying the same price for 88% of the volume when it saves trips to the bottle bank. I'd go as far as 80% and still be happy.


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  • #61
    irish_goat
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    Noticed in the offy at the weekend that William Bro's have some of their beers in 500ml cans. Aside from Punk IPA, I think it's the only UK craft beer I've seen in that size of can.


  • #62
    Hodors Appletart
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    irish_goat wrote: »
    Noticed in the offy at the weekend that William Bro's have some of their beers in 500ml cans. Aside from Punk IPA, I think it's the only UK craft beer I've seen in that size of can.

    Pretty sure I had a 500ml (possibly even 568ml) Mikkeler can during the lockdown

    (I know it's not UK)


  • #63
    rubadub
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    beachhead wrote: »
    Just to upset all the the purists.Bulmers have reduced their can size to 440ml but not the price(retail price,that is).Correct about the US pint measure.The US mile is also,shorter than the Imperial mile

    500ml is still standard bulmers, tesco and I think dunnes got in some cases of 440ml but I have not heard of them singly or in packs smaller than 24. The cases were a decent enough price compared to the 500ml smaller mulitpacks.

    Tesco used to get some which were intedned for the UK market, you could tell as the units were UK units on them, if bulmers was uk market it should be branded as magners.

    There are no 440ml in tesco at the moment.
    https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/product/search/default.aspx?searchBox=bulmers

    If the price per litre is the same then 440ml is my preferred can size.


  • #64
    Beanstalk
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    Hodors Appletart wrote: »
    Pretty sure I had a 500ml (possibly even 568ml) Mikkeler can during the lockdown

    (I know it's not UK)

    Was it their Koslch by any chance? Had one the last day...


  • #65
    BonnieSituation
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    Beanstalk wrote: »
    Was it their Koslch by any chance? Had one the last day...

    What was it like?

    Can I guess superb like all of their offerings usually are?


  • #66
    Hodors Appletart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,223 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    it wasn't Kolsch I know for sure


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  • #67
    ChewBerecca
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    Not sure if its been mentioned, but a 440ml can weighs exactly 1lb (drink and container combined) so breweries shipping them can have a better idea of weight off the bat.

    *just confirmed it myself with some in the fridge


  • #68
    loyatemu
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    ChewBerecca wrote: »
    Not sure if its been mentioned, but a 440ml can weighs exactly 1lb (drink and container combined) so breweries shipping them can have a better idea of weight off the bat.

    *just confirmed it myself with some in the fridge

    how many Irish breweries are measuring their shipment in pounds?


  • #69
    ChewBerecca
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    loyatemu wrote: »
    how many Irish breweries are measuring their shipment in pounds?

    If they're pumping out over 2400 cans then shipments in tonnes are likely.

    Might be easier to get hold of the cans from English suppliers, or maybe the couriers prefer imperial units if its a large shipment?


  • #70
    Pen Rua
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    Surely someone on this forum has a contact in (craft) brewing that could answer this? :pac:


  • #71
    Black Sheep
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    I was in O'Brien's yesterday and funnily enough there was a big row of Punk IPA 500ml cans, and I thought of this thread.

    Honestly, the 440ml is the perfect amount of beer for me ... More than 330ml and not as much as 500ml. Yes, it may be that you are getting 'less for your money' than in times past, but as others have observed, this phenomenon of shrinking products while freezing prices is not new, wasn't that the scandal with Cadbury's crème eggs and others products this past few years?

    At least for those really into their 500ml offerings there remains a lot of bottles available as part of multi buy deals.


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  • #72
    Beanstalk
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    What was it like?

    Can I guess superb like all of their offerings usually are?

    Yes it was lovely. I'd say it was in a 500ml can cus in fairness, Kolsch is a hard sell sometimes. If you want a light lager you want a light lager, if you want ale theres ale. kolsch, being in between is never something i crave, but it was lovely. Very refreshing, no off flavours, good body and tasted like a loaf of bread


  • #73
    rubadub
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    Black Sheep wrote: »
    wasn't that the scandal with Cadbury's crème eggs and others products this past few years?
    Creme eggs did not change for years, a few years ago they actually increased in weight by about a gram. If there was any genuine scandal it was the lowering of the quality of chocolate in them. There was also complaints about going to 5 packs. In the US they did change size more.

    People remember them as kids, when their hands were smaller. I remember my mother would put them in egg cups with tissue to prop them up, while some would swear they used to be the size of real average sized eggs. Just like a 500ml supercan of coke seemed massive as a kid.


  • #74
    Macy0161
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    Craft beer breweries reading this, never mind why 440ml, why haven't we had a cream egg stout for easter?


  • #75
    Black Sheep
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Craft beer breweries reading this, never mind why 440ml, why haven't we had a cream egg stout for easter?

    What about a beer cocktail ... A high ABV chocolate stout with a shot of Advocaat dropped in?


  • #76
    Mellor
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    Macy0161 wrote: »
    Craft beer breweries reading this, never mind why 440ml, why haven't we had a cream egg stout for easter?

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  • #77
    rock22
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    beachhead wrote: »
    ....
    .Correct about the US pint measure.The US mile is also,shorter than the Imperial mile

    The figure quotes for US pint is wrong. US pint is actually 473 ml ( UK pint is 586 ml).
    There is no such thing as a US mile, only an Imperial mile which is 1.609 Km


  • #78
    GazzaL
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    Thankfully you can still get Carlsberg in 500ml cans. Probably the best craft beer in the world.


  • #79
    Mellor
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    rock22 wrote: »
    There is no such thing as a US mile, only an Imperial mile which is 1.609 Km
    US Survey Mile. Which is a mere 3mm longer.

    There’s also the England mile, Irish mile. Welsh, Scottish and many others.


  • #80
    GazzaL
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    Mellor wrote: »
    US Survey Mile. Which is a mere 3mm longer.

    There’s also the England mile, Irish mile. Welsh, Scottish and many others.

    How many km is a country mile?


  • #81
    Hodors Appletart
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    GazzaL wrote: »
    How many km is a country mile?

    It's a long way to Tipperary

    It's a long, long way from Clare to here


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  • #82
    DilD
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    Ya even the likes of Guinness is 440ml in the UK so I always thought it was for exporting purposes to be safe


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