Pubs when/will they re-open - the Megathread

Deleted User wrote: »

It's this attitude and the lack of understanding which means that we need to make it a law that people who don't understand contagious diseases need to be told what to do.

Sadly, if you and people like you, understood that what you just said was bull****, we may not need a shut down. Unfortunately, we do.

People like me?? For people like you it must be stunning that humanity has survived as long as it has with all these contagious diseases..but we are all the same as far as the virus is concerned so whatever way you want to handle it lets just hope for the best, shall we?

Irish_peppa wrote: »

as soon as we lift the isolation policy is this virus not going to explode again one way or another?

I keep reading this and I don't get why it would. Surely the only way viruses like this keep going is because people keep passing them on. If people obey the rules and stay in for a month or so, how is it going to be passed on? Taiwan implemented heavy measures almost immediately and they have had very few cases. Japan was never on lockdown, but they already have meticulous hygiene habits, and they have also had relatively few cases, and growing very steadily with no large spikes. Their health service doesn't seem at all overwhelmed and it's largely business as usual for them.

Vic_08 wrote: »

This isn't going to be over soon, nothing short of eradication will allow things to return to normality.

Eradicating it on this Island will be monumentally challenging, especially as too many people are failing to properly isolate themselves.

China has only had some success by forcing an already compliant population to be completely locked down for months.

Short of a medical breakthrough that hasn't been possible with other viral infections globally I can't see this being eradicated at all, our way of life has changed for good, free movement and especially global tourism is gone.

I find it hard to believe that people are still thinking of this as some short term interruption to their lives that will just blow over in a week or two, it won't.

No, it won't blow over in a week or two, but if the economy doesn't get going again, there will be far bigger problems than a coronavirus pandemic. I think countries will essentially be forced to start up all the businesses again and in time, hospitals will be less overwhelmed.

I know it's way more serious than swine flu but that was all over the media for a while and then people moved onto the next thing. There was still swine flu, people still died from it, but the peak was over, a vaccine was developed and people pretty much just moved on. Zika was on the news every day for weeks, people were petrified of it, all these stories of deformed babies, and then they moved onto the next thing. Zika is still there, babies are still born deformed, but it didn't become as much of a problem as feared and there is less and less transmission.

Now, I know this is far more serious than the above illnesses, but the point is kind of the same in that it's simply impossible to curtail your entire life and live in fear for a sustained period of time. These initial lockdowns are to 'flatten the curve' and prevent hospitals being overwhelmed. Many of the deaths in Italy have been down to a lack of medical care rather than the illness itself. Young and healthy people are being asked to stay home so they don't spread it to older, more vulnerable people all at the same time. A period of quarantine should vastly reduce the possibility of the virus being passed on and result in far fewer cases after the quarantine period.

Why would it not become something which is still a threat, mostly to older and vulnerable people, but can be managed through careful hygiene and awareness?

Sadly some will not re-open.

I think when they do open again opening times may have to be staggered