Social distancing Megathread

Scoondal · 11-07-2020 10:21pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Why were you in a supermarket ? You should be quarantining ?

Why shoud I be in quarantine ? I don't have the virus.

iamwhoiam · 11-07-2020 10:23pm

Scoondal wrote: »

Why shoud I be in quarantine ? I don't have the virus.

Because you arrived from France .

Arriving in Ireland from another country

By law, if you arrive in Ireland from any other country you will need to fill in a form called the Covid-19 Passenger Locator Form.

You'll also be asked to restrict your movements for 14 days.

Scoondal · 11-07-2020 10:26pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Because you arrived from France .

Huh ? What is wrong with France ?
Did I miss something while I was abroad ?
Immigration waved me on.

iamwhoiam · 11-07-2020 10:32pm

Scoondal wrote: »

Huh ? What is wrong with France ?
Did I miss something while I was abroad ?
Immigration waved me on.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/returning_to_ireland/

Anyone arriving from abroad, apart from Northern Ireland, is also asked to self-isolate on arrival for 14 days. Read more about self-isolation in the next section, including exceptions.

You can get advice for people who have recently returned from abroad from the Health Service Executive (HSE). You can find out more about the range of measures in place to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic in Ireland on citizensinformation.ie.

Scoondal · 11-07-2020 10:43pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

So you arrived from France and went out shopping in the same day? That's responsible.

Irish people are being very irresponsible in public. I am being a very respectful person by wearing my mask, sanitising my hands and shopping cart and by keeping distance from other people.

Are you saying that I am doing something wrong ?

Scoondal · 11-07-2020 10:46pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/returning_to_ireland/

Anyone arriving from abroad, apart from Northern Ireland, is also asked to self-isolate on arrival for 14 days. Read more about self-isolation in the next section, including exceptions.

You can get advice for people who have recently returned from abroad from the Health Service Executive (HSE). You can find out more about the range of measures in place to deal with the COVID-19 pandemic in Ireland on citizensinformation.ie.

I thought that was until July 9.

Scoondal · 11-07-2020 10:53pm

Okay. I just googled it.
So the new government has decided to be hard line and extended the quarantine rule for arrivals until 20 July. There was no evidence of this in Ringaskiddy this morning. We were just waved through.

odyssey06 · 11-07-2020 10:54pm

Scoondal wrote: »

I thought that was until July 9.

The green list of 'air bridge' countries won't be published until July 20th.

This is the latest from the HSE website on the restriction of movements for those arriving in Ireland from outside this island:

Restricting your movements means staying at home and avoiding contact with other people and social situations as much as possible.

Do not:

use public transport
visit others
meet face-to-face with anyone who is at higher risk from coronavirus
go to the shop unless absolutely necessary - wear a face covering if you do

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/travel.html#Restrict-movements-travel

Quantum Erasure · 12-07-2020 5:43am

Scoondal wrote: »

Irish people are being very irresponsible in public. I am being a very respectful person by wearing my mask, sanitising my hands and shopping cart and by keeping distance from other people.

Are you saying that I am doing something wrong ?

TBH if you're being sensible I wouldn't worry too much about the 'official' rules

Nicetrustedcup · 12-07-2020 6:16am

Was in shop yesterday and was in a line and the line clearly has markers saying keep 2m apart and spots for you to stand on to,

The one behind me I am going to call her Your classic Karen, kept getting closer and closer and nearly up my ass and was hitting off me,

Turned around and went to her sorry could you keep 2m back and stand on your spot and keep some social distance,

My god she went nuts, saying I am rude, I have no manors, I have no right to tell her what to do, she can do what she wonts,

I turned to her I said sorry when I asked you to move it’s not my fault we have COVID but if there is going to be a 2nd wave it’s going to be caused by people like you who have no respect.

What made it better the person in shop who is looking after the line said thank you to me and she said to Karen you need to stay on your spot while in the line .....

polesheep · 12-07-2020 8:52am

Nicetrustedcup wrote: »

Was in shop yesterday and was in a line and the line clearly has markers saying keep 2m apart and spots for you to stand on to,

The one behind me I am going to call her Your classic Karen, kept getting closer and closer and nearly up my ass and was hitting off me,

Turned around and went to her sorry could you keep 2m back and stand on your spot and keep some social distance,

My god she went nuts, saying I am rude, I have no manors, I have no right to tell her what to do, she can do what she wonts,

I turned to her I said sorry when I asked you to move it’s not my fault we have COVID but if there is going to be a 2nd wave it’s going to be caused by people like you who have no respect.

What made it better the person in shop who is looking after the line said thank you to me and she said to Karen you need to stay on your spot while in the line .....

You were rude.

thelad95 · 12-07-2020 8:55am

polesheep wrote: »

You were rude.

No, she was rude, complete and utter lack of respect for others and a willing ignorance of the consequences her stupid actions could have.

12-07-2020 9:09am

polesheep wrote: »

You were rude.

No they weren’t. People like you are the problem.

kenmm · 12-07-2020 9:11am

polesheep wrote: »

You were rude.

fu(k off. That's rude. Politely reminding some moron that we are still supposed to be social distancing isn't.

polesheep · 12-07-2020 11:54am

kenmm wrote: »

fu(k off. That's rude. Politely reminding some moron that we are still supposed to be social distancing isn't.

Telling someone to "Stand on your spot" and then posting to complain about someone else's rudeness is a bit rich. Some people's reaction to that command would have been a lot more than rude.

iamwhoiam · 12-07-2020 12:02pm

polesheep wrote: »

Telling someone to "Stand on your spot" and then posting to complain about someone else's rudeness is a bit rich. Some people's reaction to that command would have been a lot more than rude.

You seem to have it all wrong . Not standing on the spot and staying 2 metres back is rude . Asking someone to do so is not .

Hrududu · 12-07-2020 1:18pm

So:

Not doing what you’re supposed to do = ah sure you know yourself, be grand.

Asking someone to do what they’re supposed to do = rude.

Boggles · 12-07-2020 1:19pm

polesheep wrote: »

Telling someone to "Stand on your spot" and then posting to complain about someone else's rudeness is a bit rich. Some people's reaction to that command would have been a lot more than rude.

:pac:

polesheep · 12-07-2020 1:34pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

You seem to have it all wrong . Not standing on the spot and staying 2 metres back is rude . Asking someone to do so is not .

Not staying two metres away is not on, but telling someone to "Stand on your spot" could easily get you a broken nose. Nothing wrong with politely asking a person to keep their distance. There's been a lot of good will, but if people start speaking with a "stand on your spot" attitude that could be lost. I'm an even tempered person, but if anyone tells me to "stand on your spot" they're going to quickly wish they hadn't.

12-07-2020 1:36pm

polesheep wrote: »

Not staying two metres away is not on, but telling someone to "Stand on your spot" could easily get you a broken nose. Nothing wrong with politely asking a person to keep their distance. There's been a lot of good will, but if people start speaking with a "stand on your spot" attitude that could be lost. I'm an even tempered person, but if anyone tells me to "stand on your spot" they're going to quickly wish they hadn't.

You don’t ask a Karen. Karen’s need to be told.

Boggles · 12-07-2020 1:53pm

polesheep wrote: »

Not staying two metres away is not on, but telling someone to "Stand on your spot" could easily get you a broken nose. Nothing wrong with politely asking a person to keep their distance. There's been a lot of good will, but if people start speaking with a "stand on your spot" attitude that could be lost. I'm an even tempered person, but if anyone tells me to "stand on your spot" they're going to quickly wish they hadn't.

odyssey06 · 12-07-2020 2:05pm

polesheep wrote: »

Not staying two metres away is not on, but telling someone to "Stand on your spot" could easily get you a broken nose. Nothing wrong with politely asking a person to keep their distance. There's been a lot of good will, but if people start speaking with a "stand on your spot" attitude that could be lost. I'm an even tempered person, but if anyone tells me to "stand on your spot" they're going to quickly wish they hadn't.

When someone shouts fore at a golf course do you theaten them with violence?
'Stand on your spot' in a supermarket with such spots marked out is the same.
Even tempered people don't react that way to being told to keep their distance when they have come too close in the context of a pandemic that has cost 1700 lives in this country alone. Act like an adult. If you've come too close and someone calls you out on it - not in an insulting way but in a sharp and direct way - you accept it.

YFlyer · 13-07-2020 12:42am

Scoondal wrote: »

Why shoud I be in quarantine ? I don't have the virus.

Did you get tested?

Seth Brundle · 13-07-2020 12:04pm

YFlyer wrote: »

Did you get tested?

Maybe Scoondal's logic is that if you can't see it, it doesn't exist!

polesheep · 13-07-2020 12:16pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

When someone shouts fore at a golf course do you theaten them with violence?
'Stand on your spot' in a supermarket with such spots marked out is the same.
Even tempered people don't react that way to being told to keep their distance when they have come too close in the context of a pandemic that has cost 1700 lives in this country alone. Act like an adult. If you've come too close and someone calls you out on it - not in an insulting way but in a sharp and direct way - you accept it.

You genuinely cannot see the difference between "Would you please mind keeping your distance" and "Stand on your spot'?

odyssey06 · 13-07-2020 1:31pm

polesheep wrote: »

You genuinely cannot see the difference between "Would you please mind keeping your distance" and "Stand on your spot'?

There's a difference but it's immaterial and irrelevent as irrelavent as shouting "Fore" or "Do watch out chaps... Fore!". The person was too close, there's a public health pandemic. They weren't being asked to do something they shouldn't have been doing already. The kind of people who take issue with something important like that is the kind of person who thinks they can do no wrong. That nobody is entitled to call them out when they make their mistakes, but approach them as some sort of penitent supplicant - even though they were the ones making the mistake.
They need to be told to stay back. It doesn't have to be polite, it just has to be said in an immediate way and without putting in an insult e.g. "stay back" versus "stay back you moron".
There's no time for niceties if the person has encroached.

You appear unable to see see that the person who encroached here is the one in the wrong, instead preferring to quibble over the way in which the wronged party corrected them. In a public health pandemic. I think your responses here have nothing to do with politeness but are another example of the myopic attitude you display across multiple threads towards this virus which has killed 1700 people.

Van.Bosch · 13-07-2020 1:42pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

myself & wife and friends of ours were discussing in the last few days about going out for a meal in Aug (4 of us)

all 4 of us seem to be ok with it, but was watching the news last night on their part about going out in bars, etc and they said if you meet someone you know in the bar, you say hello, keep your 2m and dont stay long

That wouldnt work then for 2 couples from different houses, any thoughts?

We've been doing our bit the last few months but would it be any different than going around to someones house for a visit?

The ambiguity arises from the fact a lot of people are ignoring the guidelines, people are meeting as you outline in restaurants or houses etc but technically you need to keep 2m apart in houses or 1m in restaurants. In reality that’s not happening. The risk is you infect each other so if you’re okay with that then do be it, go for it.

I went to the pub by myself for some grub last week, loads of groups of lads and girls etc all at same table. Within the guidelines? No. Widespread, Yes.

amandstu · 13-07-2020 6:13pm

I see it seems to be 1 metre minimum distancing between tables in hotels.I can't find any discussion about that on the boards ,

When did that happen? Is it the same rule in restaurants?

ForestFire · 13-07-2020 6:27pm

amandstu wrote: »

I see it seems to be 1 metre minimum distancing between tables in hotels.I can't find any discussion about that on the boards ,

When did that happen? Is it the same rule in restaurants?

Meals in Hotels are generally more than 15euro and this allows you to sit closer!! Simple maths really.....

Also if your paying for a room, anything over 100euros a night, entitles you to a piggy back from reception to your room ;-)

odyssey06 · 13-07-2020 6:34pm

amandstu wrote: »

I see it seems to be 1 metre minimum distancing between tables in hotels.I can't find any discussion about that on the boards ,
When did that happen? Is it the same rule in restaurants?

Where 2 metre distancing is not feasible but other "risk mitigation" measures are in place i.e. time limited booked slots & 1 metre minimum is acceptable.
https://www.thejournal.ie/pubs-reopening-guidelines-5125870-Jun2020/

amandstu · 13-07-2020 7:32pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Where 2 metre distancing is not feasible but other "risk mitigation" measures are in place i.e. time limited booked slots & 1 metre minimum is acceptable.
https://www.thejournal.ie/pubs-reopening-guidelines-5125870-Jun2020/

Thanks.I missed that at the time.

amandstu · 13-07-2020 7:34pm

ForestFire wrote: »

Meals in Hotels are generally more than 15euro and this allows you to sit closer!! Simple maths really.....

Also if your paying for a room, anything over 100euros a night, entitles you to a piggy back from reception to your room ;-)

Too big to fail? We will see how it goes,fingers crossed.

Scoondal · 13-07-2020 9:38pm

YFlyer wrote: »

Did you get tested?

Yes. I got tested by a doctor in France on 6 July. I got my negative result on 8 July. All very efficient. I showed my EU health card and there was no charge.

completedit · 14-07-2020 12:32pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

There's a difference but it's immaterial and irrelevent as irrelavent as shouting "Fore" or "Do watch out chaps... Fore!". The person was too close, there's a public health pandemic. They weren't being asked to do something they shouldn't have been doing already. The kind of people who take issue with something important like that is the kind of person who thinks they can do no wrong. That nobody is entitled to call them out when they make their mistakes, but approach them as some sort of penitent supplicant - even though they were the ones making the mistake.
They need to be told to stay back. It doesn't have to be polite, it just has to be said in an immediate way and without putting in an insult e.g. "stay back" versus "stay back you moron".
There's no time for niceties if the person has encroached.

You appear unable to see see that the person who encroached here is the one in the wrong, instead preferring to quibble over the way in which the wronged party corrected them. In a public health pandemic. I think your responses here have nothing to do with politeness but are another example of the myopic attitude you display across multiple threads towards this virus which has killed 1700 people.

It's called having common sense and not completely overreacting. Having a type of society where people can just go around barking at other people is not one I want to live in. It leaves a harsh, unfriendly and toxic atmosphere in the air. Everyone has to play their part. It's Covid, not the black death. People who bark at people like that, will behave like that in any situation where they've been perturbed. A pandemic just gives them a little more leverage.

Everyone has to have manners. If you are that worried about getting the disease, you better be someone who literally just keeps your movements to a minimum in all walks of life.

*I saw the post above, it wasn't that unreasonable given the context. It's just about having tact and knowing that people are people. You could be completely adhering to all social distancing suggestions and then something crosses your mind and you momentarily forget. Has happened to me, when I realize it, I stand back in place.

polesheep · 14-07-2020 12:51pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

There's a difference but it's immaterial and irrelevent as irrelavent as shouting "Fore" or "Do watch out chaps... Fore!". The person was too close, there's a public health pandemic. They weren't being asked to do something they shouldn't have been doing already. The kind of people who take issue with something important like that is the kind of person who thinks they can do no wrong. That nobody is entitled to call them out when they make their mistakes, but approach them as some sort of penitent supplicant - even though they were the ones making the mistake.
They need to be told to stay back. It doesn't have to be polite, it just has to be said in an immediate way and without putting in an insult e.g. "stay back" versus "stay back you moron".
There's no time for niceties if the person has encroached.

You appear unable to see see that the person who encroached here is the one in the wrong, instead preferring to quibble over the way in which the wronged party corrected them. In a public health pandemic. I think your responses here have nothing to do with politeness but are another example of the myopic attitude you display across multiple threads towards this virus which has killed 1700 people.

I have stated that the person who encroached should have kept their distance, so you can keep the snide bit in bold to yourself.

I commented on the fact that the poster claimed the other person was rude when he/she was also rude by telling the other person to "stand on your spot".

I don't display any attitude, myopic or otherwise, I simply post my opinions as do you.

And just over 1,700 people have died whilst positive for Covid. That is not the same thing as 1,700 people dying from Covid.

odyssey06 · 14-07-2020 1:02pm

polesheep wrote: »

I have stated that the person who encroached should have kept their distance, so you can keep the snide bit in bold to yourself.
I commented on the fact that the poster claimed the other person was rude when he/she was also rude by telling the other person to "stand on your spot".
I don't display any attitude, myopic or otherwise, I simply post my opinions as do you.
And just over 1,700 people have died whilst positive for Covid. That is not the same thing as 1,700 people dying from Covid.

Look at how much you have written criticising the original poster and defending the encroacher. Your posts were clearly more hostile to the original poster's actions than those of the encroacher. Saying they should have kept their distance is not the same as saying they were wrong party in the encounter.
You are more worked up about what the original poster said than what the encroacher did. You still don't get it.

Look at what you wrote:
I'm an even tempered person, but if anyone tells me to "stand on your spot" they're going to quickly wish they hadn't.
No attitude? Right.

You continue to keep up this defence of the kind of person who cares nothing for other people's health, in fact cares so little about it that on being asked to take a simple step back to help protect others, goes off on a rant because they weren't asked politely enough. That kind of person is not a mature adult. They display the attitude of an egocentric 7 year old.

Scoondal · 15-07-2020 10:52pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Maybe Scoondal's logic is that if you can't see it, it doesn't exist!

No, that is not my logic. But in fairness to you, you said "Maybe Scoondal's logic".
Covid19 exists and has been in Ireland before people came back from northern Italy.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0614/1147301-coronavirus-ireland/

expectationlost · 21-07-2020 11:14pm

Irish Rail apologises after passengers forced to pack into train corridor with social distancing 'not possible' https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-rail-apologises-after-passengers-22385256

where were these people going that they were forced to be on the train?

murpho999 · 22-07-2020 12:11am

Was in an Aldi today. First time since Covid started.

Was really surprised to see zero distancing measures. No controls at the door, no tape markings outside.

Then at the checkouts no distance markings. I queued and stood back but older man in front just went straight up to belt on top of customer in front.

When they were clear I approached it and put my shopping on and immediately a woman was behind me and puttiing her stuff on. She had a mask on. If she's aware of that then why isn't she aware of social distancing?
What's their panic, they're not being served any slower because of it.

I was surprised how lax Aldi were about it though compared to other shops I have been in.

murpho999 · 22-07-2020 12:13am

expectationlost wrote: »

Irish Rail apologises after passengers forced to pack into train corridor with social distancing 'not possible' https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-rail-apologises-after-passengers-22385256

where were these people going that they were forced to be on the train?

They were going to Dublin.:P

NIMAN · 22-07-2020 12:19am

Was in Homebase the other day, to be fair to the shop they had everything in place, walkways to lead you to the tills, plenty of floor markings.

Everyone was doing things right in the queues, except the one gulpin behind me, who was maybe 6 inches behind me. Everytime I moved forward, he moved to within the 6 inches again.

He was a thick looking guy who I had no intention of questioning over it. Its not worth the hassle. But Jesus some folk are thick and/or ignorant.

expectationlost · 22-07-2020 12:32pm

murpho999 wrote: »

They were going to Dublin.:P

for essential work? all these teenagers ? https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-rail-apologises-after-passengers-22385256

Lex Luthor · 22-07-2020 2:18pm

Gaeltachts are back up & running

expectationlost · 22-07-2020 2:58pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Gaeltachts are back up & running

essential gaeltachts?

Lex Luthor · 22-07-2020 3:39pm

expectationlost wrote: »

essential gaeltachts?

gatherings less than 50 loophole I guess

iamwhoiam · 22-07-2020 3:43pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Gaeltachts are back up & running

Where were the Gaeltachts all along ? !

Lex Luthor · 22-07-2020 3:46pm

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Where were the Gaeltachts all along ? !

they had to cancel everything when covid lockdown commenced but have since opened up for shorter visits and less attending < 50

expectationlost · 22-07-2020 3:47pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

gatherings less than 50 loophole I guess

all these kids have separate rooms?

iamwhoiam · 22-07-2020 3:49pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

they had to cancel everything when covid lockdown commenced but have since opened up for shorter visits and less attending < 50

Oh you mean Gaeltachts summer schools ? Then my family live in a Gaeltacht and were very much alive and kicking all through the lockdown !! Only pulling your leg really !

Lex Luthor · 22-07-2020 3:56pm

expectationlost wrote: »

all these kids have separate rooms?

I know of one operating and they have 2 per room, generally friends who travel together

Social distancing Megathread

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