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Covid and Obesity

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    #242
    [Deleted User]
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    Have cancer? Walk it off :D


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    #243
    wadacrack
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Have cancer? Walk it off :D

    Would be better if you decided to maybe appreciate that people are trying to help with information on this thread rather than sarcastic replies. It will do you some good. Self pity and excuses won't.


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    #244
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    Would be better if you decided to maybe appreciate that people are trying to help with information on this thread rather than sarcastic replies. It will do you some good. Self pity and excuses won't.

    It’s a very very dangerous thing to be saying though. If you have cancer then you need treatment, not exercise. Even describing it as only a ‘chronic condition’ is very off.


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    #245
    mick087
    Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭mick087


    Obesity is now an acceptable form of prejudice.
    Looking at the comments some have made would make one cringe.

    I dont know if its just young age or folk being plain nasty.

    Education is key, not criticizing not having having prejudices and not being so judgemental.


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    #246
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    mick087 wrote: »
    Obesity is now an acceptable form of prejudice.
    Looking at the comments some have made would make one cringe.

    I dont know if its just young age or folk being plain nasty.

    Education is key, not criticizing not having having prejudices and not being so judgemental.

    A lot of people are absolutely revelling in the fact that obese people are more at risk. Definitely am accepted form of hatred these days.


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    #247
    Corcaigh84
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    I haven't read the whole thread but Covid has been great for me, down over 10KG so far, with more to go.

    My only tip would be when using apps like MyFitnessPal, just set your cals goal, stick to it, and don't bother inputting in any exercise you do during the day - it's a trap.


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    #248
    iguana
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    Can't a slowed down metabolism be sped up again by lifestyle changes? I found my 'sport' at 40 and it changed how my body reacted to food completely. Before that I could keep my weight healthy if I carefully controlled my processed sugar consumption. If I didn't, my weight would increase slowly but surely, not helped by becoming more car reliant in my late 30s. Realistically I suspect that without a changed lifestyle, I'd have spent the rest of my life with my weight yo-yo-ing up and down because I probably wouldn't have been able to strictly limit sugar forever. I've even found that some people get as weird about you not having a slice of cake as some people do with someone choosing not to drink, so there is a social pressure to join in with sugar consumption. Once I was spending an average of a couple of hours a day 'working out' it didn't matter what I ate, I stayed lean and muscular. I know calories in-calories out would have made a difference with the added activity, but neither strength nor stretching sessions are huge calorie burners. And if I burned a lot of calories I'd usually make a high protein smoothie straight after, so those calories were going straight back in.


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    #249
    threeball
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    I've noticed a marked increase in the weight of children and a significant drop in their fitness after lock down. Involved in a few kids teams and they're blowing hard after the warm ups and a good few are noticeably fat where they were pretty lean to normal prior to lockdown. They're not shifting it either after a month back moving.


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    #250
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    threeball wrote: »
    I've noticed a marked increase in the weight of children and a significant drop in their fitness after lock down. Involved in a few kids teams and they're blowing hard after the warm ups and a good few are noticeably fat where they were pretty lean to normal prior to lockdown. They're not shifting it either after a month back moving.

    Shouldn’t be out training anyway. Hopefully a stop is put to it all, adult and children, soon.


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    #251
    threeball
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Shouldn’t be out training anyway. Hopefully a stop is put to it all, adult and children, soon.

    Ah stop ffs, should we all live in an oxygen tent for the next 5yrs scrubbing ourselves raw. Its already been shown that kids are extremely low risk of infection and transmission, put them outside and its more likely that one of them will become an astronaut than have a negative outcome with covid. Spend your time concentrating on protesting pubs and travel it will be better spent than worrying about a few kids running round a pitch.


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    #252
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    threeball wrote: »
    Ah stop ffs, should we all live in an oxygen tent for the next 5yrs scrubbing ourselves raw. Its already been shown that kids are extremely low risk of infection and transmission, put them outside and its more likely that one of them will become an astronaut than have a negative outcome with covid. Spend your time concentrating on protesting pubs and travel it will be better spent than worrying about a few kids running round a pitch.

    It’ll be stopped soon again regardless of whether you agree or not so enjoy the little bit while you can.


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    #253
    threeball
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    It’ll be stopped soon again regardless of whether you agree or not so enjoy the little bit while you can.

    It'll be stopped due to other factors not due to whats happening in sports clubs. You sound like you're looking forward to it.


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    #254
    wadacrack
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    It’ll be stopped soon again regardless of whether you agree or not so enjoy the little bit while you can.

    Sounds like you are upset that another poster mentioned fat kids. Bizarre negativity towards any poster than mentions anything about obesity/overweight related issues


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    #255
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    Sounds like you are upset that another poster mentioned fat kids. Bizarre negativity towards any poster than mentions anything about obesity/overweight related issues

    No, more that sport is irrelevant in the big picture so should be deprioritised.


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    #256
    threeball
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    No, more that sport is irrelevant in the big picture so should be deprioritised.

    Quite the opposite. Sport is probably one of the most important and safest activities people can engage in currently not to mention the physical and mental wellbeing advantages it brings.


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    #257
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    Ah, mental health :rolleyes:

    Carry on there, I won’t interrupt you any more.


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    #258
    threeball
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Ah, mental health :rolleyes:

    Carry on there, I won’t interrupt you any more.

    So you don't believe serotonin exists or that sunlight has a significant effect on mood. You're right, continue sitting in your safe space with your xbox.


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    #259
    AdamD
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    A lot of people are absolutely revelling in the fact that obese people are more at risk. Definitely am accepted form of hatred these days.
    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    It’ll be stopped soon again regardless of whether you agree or not so enjoy the little bit while you can.
    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    No, more that sport is irrelevant in the big picture so should be deprioritised.
    So you think obese people are being bullied, but are against sport?

    uh oh


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    #260
    Adam9213
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    _Brian wrote: »
    Obesity is far too accepted in society now.
    Sensible eating and modest regular exercise is all it takes yet so many chose not to and then expect not to be ridiculed for their laziness.

    Telling a fat person to do a bit of exercise is now called "fat shaming"


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    #261
    YFlyer
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Shouldn’t be out training anyway. Hopefully a stop is put to it all, adult and children, soon.

    Non physical contact exercise is encouraged.


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    #262
    jam_mac_jam
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    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Even if it isn’t any time soon, when you’re talking about over 35’s then weight is basically impossible to lose, it’ll still be sooner. Probably a better chance for younger people who’s metabolism hasn’t gone.

    It's not impossible at all. A small bit harder but not impossible.


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    #263
    Cyrus
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    Wibbs wrote: »
    Not quite. Yes metabolism appears to slow down as people age, but it's not so simple and it's certainly not game over anywhere near the age of 35. When people say they had a faster metabolism when they were younger they don't take into account that they were also moving around more when younger. The college student of 20 taking the bus and walking everywhere and going between lectures and socialising, maybe even enjoying some sport or other and all that is a very different beast to the same person driving to work and sitting in an office from 9 to 5 and then driving home and sitting in front of the goggle box for the evening at 30. Force the 20 year old into that setup and watch their "metabolism" slow.

    People also lose muscle mass as the age and muscle mass burns more calories, and that loss is again down to different lifestyles as we age. When tribal types have been looked at their muscle mass is far more stable through the years and the decline much more gradual(only really starts to fall after 60).

    Men have even fewer excuses than women on this score. They have more lean muscle mass outa the box, which burns calories at rest, far more testosterone which in simple terms burns fat and builds lean tissue and declines at a far slower rate than hormone profiles in women. Never mind men don't get pregnant, nor have a menopause. It is far simpler for a man to have near enough the same hormone profile and lean mass at 50 that he did at 20 and certainly 30 than it is for a woman to do so. Our bodies are evolved to remain fit for purpose until around our 70's after which the decline is steep.

    Now if someone has an actual metabolic disease either through genetics or more likely lifestyle(which can be reversed for the most part) OK, but the notion that it's impossible for a 35 year old to lose weight is a complete and utter self fulfilling and lazy nonsense.

    quoted again in case anyone missed it

    if you are fat and happy with that all good but dont cod yourself that you cant lose weight if you arent prepared to try.


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    #264
    GazzaL
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    Obesity. It increases the risk of serious illness from COVID-19. Not to mention all the other health risks associated with obesity.

    More than 25% of young Irish people are obese or overweight: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40024457.html

    More than 75% of over 50s are obese or overweight:
    https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/healthwellbeing/our-priority-programmes/heal/key-facts/#overweight

    Yet here we are fluting around with masks, the messages around good hygiene and social distancing are being lost, and we're not properly addressing a major public health problem.

    We even classified takeaways as essential businesses!


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    #265
    Utopia Parkway
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    No pun intended.


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    #266
    biko
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    How do you suggest we deal with it OP?
    It's not secret obesity is bad for us, or even that it makes Covid worse.


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    #267
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    There’s been a pile of threads on this already.

    All fat people should lose weight but it takes time and Covid is here now. Where were you two years ago when it could actually make a difference?


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    #268
    Beasty
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    Threads merged


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    #269
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    Clayton Deep Hand wrote: »
    Sort out the mental health services in this country and you'll see obesity start to fall back. I'm overweight and suffer from severe depression and anxiety. I can tell you, its not easy to loose weight when you're constantly battling against yourself. I went to the doctor. Their solution was to try and fill me up with pills.
    It's not just a simple case that people are fat and need to loose weight. It's much more than that, it's a major issue in our society.

    Mental health is just another catch all excuse for laziness, among everything else these days. Leave the mental health services for the few who actually need it.


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    #270
    mick087
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    Nationalise all gyms for exercise
    Nationalise all mental health and well being councillors
    End the privately run above and in doing so your have more access for all to these services.

    Educate, encourage understanding and learn.

    Dont make obesity an acceptable an form of prejudice and discrimination.


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    #271
    Chivito550
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    Obesity is the big elephant in room re Covid-19. Nobody seems to want to talk about it, and would rather bury their heads in sand. HSE counting a BMI of 40 as obese when the international standard is 30. 1/4 of Ireland is obese. This puts them in the "at-risk" category.

    Dr Feeley illustrates it well.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/dr-martin-feeley-young-and-healthy-majority-need-to-be-allowed-to-live-1.4362503


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