Any info out there on TOOL.

Useful.Idiot · 30-01-2019 6:17pm

I think Maynard probably has the least decisional parity in terms of the music Tool put out, going by the lead up to this album.

weiland79 · 01-05-2019 11:16am

Anyone else going to see them in Prague?

Im a 43 year old man and i cant remember the last time i was this excited about something.

frag420 · 01-05-2019 12:47pm

weiland79 wrote: »

Anyone else going to see them in Prague?

Im a 43 year old man and i cant remember the last time i was this excited about something.

Download for me although possibly Lisbon too, still deciding!

Lithium93_ · 03-05-2019 11:06am

Band now have a page on both Spotify & Apple Music.

https://loudwire.com/tool-spotify-profile/

baamus · 04-05-2019 2:52am

Listened a few tracks from last years album and wasn't impressed tbh. Own a few albums of Tool and A Perfect Circle, really like their heavier stuff.

weiland79 · 04-05-2019 5:31am

baamus wrote: »

Listened a few tracks from last years album and wasn't impressed tbh. Own a few albums of Tool and A Perfect Circle, really like their heavier stuff.

Last years album?

frag420 · 04-05-2019 7:50am

weiland79 wrote: »

Last years album?

I think they may mean APC unless I’ve gone full Rip van Winkle and slept through the the latest Tool album!!

weiland79 · 04-05-2019 9:38am

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Band now have a page on both Spotify & Apple Music.

https://loudwire.com/tool-spotify-profile/

you'd imagine this means an album is in coming:pac:

baamus · 04-05-2019 5:49pm

weiland79 wrote: »

Last years album?

Epic mistake sure it was APC

baamus · 04-05-2019 5:50pm

frag420 wrote: »

I think they may mean APC unless I’ve gone full Rip van Winkle and slept through the the latest Tool album!!

You got me there

Lithium93_ · 04-05-2019 7:05pm

weiland79 wrote: »

you'd imagine this means an album is in coming:pac:

Logically you'd think that, but who really knows, it's all shrouded in secrecy.

Only band I can think of to rival Tool in the secrecy stakes is Guns N' Roses.

Lithium93_ · 06-05-2019 7:13am

Descending & Invincible, 2 new songs were played at Welcome To Rockville.

https://loudwire.com/tool-perform-new-songs-descending-welcome-rockville/?fbclid=IwAR3s8hw_PKoPtjLu_Kc1D3x30tkgxOJtToqf6GffJR_BTayALbEOSrjPu7I

LillySV · 06-05-2019 11:39am

was lookign at tour schedule online...thats hardly the last tour dates for 2019? Id like to think they will call to Ireland?

weiland79 · 06-05-2019 4:50pm

LillySV wrote: »

was lookign at tour schedule online...thats hardly the last tour dates for 2019? Id like to think they will call to Ireland?

I think there are only 13 european dates. No Ireland im afraid

weiland79 · 07-05-2019 10:24am

One of our group has had to pull out of the gig in Prague so we have a spare ticket. If anyone is interested send me a PM.

Lithium93_ · 08-05-2019 6:52am

So just spotted this on Twitter...

https://twitter.com/Tool/status/1125992825756233729

S.M.B. · 08-05-2019 7:59am

Do I listen to live version of new songs or wait ~4 months?

Decisions, decisions.

weiland79 · 08-05-2019 11:09am

S.M.B. wrote: »

Do I listen to live version of new songs or wait ~4 months?

Decisions, decisions.

This is something that is bugging me about the upcoming gig. I generally don't enjoy listening to new music for the first time at a gig.

LillySV · 08-05-2019 4:24pm

S.M.B. wrote: »

Do I listen to live version of new songs or wait ~4 months?

Decisions, decisions.

Wait... the live versions I heard online don’t sound bad but at the same time... they didn’t sound like something that they would spend over a decade writing!

Arghus · 08-05-2019 4:54pm

Looks legit this time.

Thirteen years. Not bad going.

S.M.B. · 08-05-2019 6:03pm

weiland79 wrote: »

This is something that is bugging me about the upcoming gig. I generally don't enjoy listening to new music for the first time at a gig.

I'm not a big fan of seeing a band in the run up to a major release where the set is primarily made up of songs I've never heard before. However, I do love when I see a band perform a new song that makes a big impression and I end up associating that performance with the song forever more. It doesn't happen too often but when it does it's glorious.

I won't be seeing Tool on this tour so unfortunately it's bootlegs or nothing for me. Think I'll abstain.

Lithium93_ · 11-05-2019 11:40am

Maynard confirmed the August 30th date for the Tool album via Twitter and a Thor meme of all things.

https://twitter.com/mjkeenan/status/1126869696819748865

Useful.Idiot · 11-05-2019 10:03pm

LillySV wrote: »

Wait... the live versions I heard online don’t sound bad but at the same time... they didn’t sound like something that they would spend over a decade writing!

I felt the same but I also learned a long time ago not to judge a band's new material via a live vid from a camera in the audience. Gonna save the judgement until it's out.

Also it's always important to note they haven't been writing for a decade. A lot of that time was spent mired in legal proceedings that stunted the band for a while. I believe there was also health issues in the band too over that time.

weiland79 · 26-05-2019 9:44pm

https://youtu.be/c0oPARs84Mo

So close now!!! And they sound in top form. Can't wait.

frag420 · 26-05-2019 10:00pm

weiland79 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/c0oPARs84Mo

So close now!!! And they sound in top form. Can't wait.

This night three weeks and il be seeing them live...can’t wait!

Arghus · 27-05-2019 3:08pm

Must say Maynard's voice sounds great in those videos.

weiland79 · 27-05-2019 9:30pm

https://youtu.be/mYKLvYGqaC0

I learned the recorder in school

weiland79 · 05-06-2019 6:33pm

Just back from Prague. Start to finish amazing. Started with Enema followed by The Pot. They played two new tracks. We got 46 & 2, Jambi, 4 degrees, Vicarious, Stinkfist a really good mix of songs.
The O2 is a great venue. The sound i thought was great although i did hear some people complain that it was too loud.
Tempted to go back next Tuesday to see Slipknot.

Treviso · 05-06-2019 11:23pm

My initial thoughts on the setlists for this tour are not that impressive, but guess I'm being overly picky. Missing a few of their best songs imo.

https://www.setlist.fm/search?artist=2bd6d836&query=tool

Cant wait to see them in Amsterdam in under 2 weeks

Arghus · 06-06-2019 12:59am

Treviso wrote: »

My initial thoughts on the setlists for this tour are not that impressive, but guess I'm being overly picky. Missing a few of their best songs imo.

https://www.setlist.fm/search?artist=2bd6d836&query=tool

Cant wait to see them in Amsterdam in under 2 weeks

If I could criticise them in any way it would be over their choice of set-lists. They tend to stick rigidly to the same set-list throughout a tour, not just now, but all the time. They very rarely vary it or change it up. I suppose they have a lot of things to sync up like visuals etc, etc - so everything has to run like clockwork, not leaving a lot of space for spontaneity. You'd love to see them start throwing a few deeper cuts here and there, but it's not their way of doing things.

But there's always exceptions - I went to see play at Ozzfest back in '02, when Ozzy infamously pulled out and as a result their slot became a kinda unofficial headline slot. We actually got a few extra tunes compared to the other Ozzfest setlists from the same period. They threw in Flood and Opiate on top of their usual played. Ah, that was a great day.

S.M.B. · 06-06-2019 8:12am

Wouldn't have too many issues with the tour setlist to be honest, along with the new stuff there's one song in there I've yet to see them perform live. I think Bottom is the only song I'd love to have the opportunity of seeing live and looks like they haven't played that in the past 20 years.

If you're looking for a retrospective setlist then there's no better time to see the band. A post new album tour would usually consist of ~7 new songs with little room for some of the classics let a long a few deep cuts.

Tar.Aldarion · 06-06-2019 10:16am

S.M.B. wrote: »

Wouldn't have too many issues with the tour setlist to be honest, along with the new stuff there's one song in there I've yet to see them perform live. I think Bottom is the only song I'd love to have the opportunity of seeing live and looks like they haven't played that in the past 20 years.

If you're looking for a retrospective setlist then there's no better time to see the band. A post new album tour would usually consist of ~7 new songs with little room for some of the classics let a long a few deep cuts.

Exactly why I'm glad I'll be seeing them soon, it's been so many years and I want the same gig again tbh!

frag420 · 16-06-2019 11:37pm

They bossed Download tonight, it was epic in the extreme!!

I can’t believe how good they were tonight!

Lemsiper · 17-06-2019 11:21am

They were amazing last night.

PTH2009 · 18-06-2019 7:05pm

Recently listened to a few tracks of theres. Amazing but sad there not in spotify

The pot is an amazing song

Arghus · 18-06-2019 11:51pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Recently listened to a few tracks of theres. Amazing but sad there not in spotify

The pot is an amazing song

I reckon by the time the new album comes along they'll have found their way to streaming services. The music industry has moved on a lot since their last release.

If you are starting off in you can't put a foot wrong with Aenima and Lateralus, two cast iron classic albums from front to back and I've always had a soft spot for some of the stuff off Salival, particularly their amazing cover of No Quarter -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNUq-JSXvS4

cournioni · 19-06-2019 12:00am

Going to see them at Rock Werchter in a couple of weeks, can’t wait! Haven’t seen them since Ozzfest in Punchestown in 2002.

S.M.B. · 19-06-2019 7:53am

Is it a given that Aenima and Lateralus are on another level altogether or are there fans who were first introduced to Tool via 10,000 Days and rate that album equally as high?

Tar.Aldarion · 19-06-2019 10:03am

I'm with them from the start (well near enough, over 20 years as my favourite band) and rate 10,000 days as highly. As an album altogether it's a masterpiece imo. It's not an unpopular opinion really either from reading forums.

Yeah there's plenty of people that got into them from that album, just depends on their age or what they heard first. Just the other day I showed somebody songs from each and their favourite were from 10,000 days, I definitely think it is more accessible to somebody that isn't into metal/rock etc as much too.

frag420 · 19-06-2019 11:48am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Recently listened to a few tracks of theres. Amazing but sad there not in spotify

The pot is an amazing song

They have a profile on Spotify, just no songs for now. It was recently added so I reckon they will be on Spotify before the end of the year!

Aenima is a monster of an album,its the album that got me into Tool back in the mid/late 90's.

Lateralus is a great album too. 10K days was a tough listen at the start but does have some great tunes, I really should go back and listen to it some more.

I love the Salival version of Pu****, epic!

S.M.B. · 19-06-2019 2:52pm

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I'm with them from the start (well near enough, over 20 years as my favourite band) and rate 10,000 days as highly. As an album altogether it's a masterpiece imo. It's not an unpopular opinion really either from reading forums.

Yeah there's plenty of people that got into them from that album, just depends on their age or what they heard first. Just the other day I showed somebody songs from each and their favourite were from 10,000 days, I definitely think it is more accessible to somebody that isn't into metal/rock etc as much too.

That's interesting and exactly what I was wondering. I've never considered 10,000 Days to be a poor album in any way but it just had nowhere near the same impact that the previous two albums had. I'm not sure if it's purely down to my age when these albums were released, my fondness for Tool and similar bands at the time of release or whether 10,000 days simply isn't as good as what came before it.

Doesn't help that I rate Latetalus extremely highly even though a lot of music I listen to isn't too similar.

weiland79 · 19-06-2019 4:21pm

Left school in 1994 and one of my abiding memories of that time is listening to Undertow on repeat. The Henry Rollins cameo on Bottom and 4 degrees being particular hilights for me. Been listening to them ever since.

For me Lateralus is, and i don't say this lightly, One of the greatest metal tracks ever written.

The Album 10,000 days is as good as anything they've ever produced with the title track being a particular high point for me. I remember sitting on a beach in Thailand on my honeymoon listening to that track and tripping out ( At least i think it was the music):pac::pac:

Useful.Idiot · 19-06-2019 4:27pm

10,000 days is definitely underrated. I actually think it's maybe less accessible than the previous albums? Well I suppose specifically the second half of the album is, and is overlooked because of that. The two "Wings" tracks have to rank up there as one of the best musical passages across Tool's discography.

Arghus · 19-06-2019 4:54pm

For me, 10000 days, isn't on par with Aenima and Lateralus.

That isn't to say it's a bad album, some of it is excellent.

Wings for Marie is up there with the very best of anything they've put out; Jambi is pretty good; The Pot is interesting and a bit a-typical for a Tool song and there's cool passages and ideas in most of the other tracks too.

But, for me, they didn't really do anything remarkably new in that album. I've always just found Vicarious to be merely alright, some cool parts for sure, but the song as a whole has never grabbed me. Rosetta Stoned comes a distant second for me to Third Eye in their competition for best thirteen minute plus drug fuelled epic. And, honestly, Right in Two and Intension have always struck me as slightly like Tool by the numbers.

I thought they were beginning to repeat themselves just a little by the time of 10000 days: some of the riffs felt familiar and a lot of Maynard's lyrics were rehashes of the usual: voyeurism, insensitivity, humanity being a bit thick etc, etc. Though, I was older when I heard 10000 days, so I was a bit less awestruck by then, when it came to Maynard's pronouncements, than I was when I heard them first as a teenager.

I don't hate the record or anything, but I rarely go back and listen to much of it these days, apart from Wings, which is amazing.

S.M.B. · 19-06-2019 5:18pm

100% agree with all off the above, wasn't sure if that opinion lined up with the general consensus or not. Wings along with been a cracking bit of song writing felt slightly removed from anything the band had done before. It's the only material from the album that would find it's way onto any sort of "Best of" Playlist I'd ever create.

Also agree about the earlier comment about the song Lateralus. It's up there with my favourite song from any genre.

weiland79 · 23-06-2019 8:10am

Maynard James Keenan: The Art of Work: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLANorT3Y7McMKzxqTw8u8ykq3pe_6A0Tn

An impressive guy

Marty Xavier · 01-07-2019 2:11pm

Watched some of the Tool live at download, don't get it, boring as **** , i would gladly give away my 3 tool albums if someone paid postage.

Granadino · 01-07-2019 3:44pm

Marty Xavier wrote: »

Watched some of the Tool live at download, don't get it, boring as **** , i would gladly give away my 3 tool albums if someone paid postage.

I think you may have set up your new account to troll people?

I have a few copies of their albums, but their stuff sounds very dated at this stage. Not crap, just dated, and they are good musicians in fairness.

Marty Xavier · 04-07-2019 12:07pm

no not crap just boring sorry

Tar.Aldarion · 04-07-2019 12:45pm

Saw them in Lisbon the other day, AMAZING! Great place to have it too.

Any info out there on TOOL.

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