This week's classic tractor I'm not buying

Bass Reeves · 27-03-2021 3:42pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/leyland-262/27574710

Leyland 262. They are 55-60Hp. If I remember right they always had a decent rear liftuch better than a 165. I say this one was on the road a bit as I see a light plug on the rear and there is twin beacons on it.

cute geoge · 27-03-2021 4:44pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/leyland-262/27574710

Leyland 262. They are 55-60Hp. If I remember right they always had a decent rear liftuch better than a 165. I say this one was on the road a bit as I see a light plug on the rear and there is twin beacons on it.

a bit of a difference between 165 and 262of the same age .leyland no dealers now, bad breaks ,bad hitch and need weights for a bale otherwise a good enough yoke but not 4.5k

k mac · 27-03-2021 5:30pm

Wow looking at this thread has me thinking is it time to sell my 20 year old 85hp landini. What is it worth, 4wd 5700 hrs, mechanical perfect interior rough and exterior off farm condition bit of rust on one mud guard??

endainoz · 27-03-2021 7:01pm

k mac wrote: »

Wow looking at this thread has me thinking is it time to sell my 20 year old 85hp landini. What is it worth, 4wd 5700 hrs, mechanical perfect interior rough and exterior off farm condition bit of rust on one mud guard??

Would it be something like this you have?

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/landini/27434735

k mac · 27-03-2021 7:04pm

endainoz wrote: »

Would it be something like this you have?

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/landini/27434735

No the older model, a blizzard

jaginsligo · 28-03-2021 1:22am

This looks clean : good value but I have no idea of how reliable they are

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagemachinery-for-sale/international-475/27646951

FintanMcluskey · 28-03-2021 1:31am

jaginsligo wrote: »

This looks clean : good value but I have no idea of how reliable they are

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagemachinery-for-sale/international-475/27646951

Great tractor. Perkins engine

No log book makes it worthy of scrap value unfortunately

kevthegaff · 28-03-2021 9:03am

She be a grand tractor for scraping

maidhc · 28-03-2021 9:52am

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Great tractor. Perkins engine

No log book makes it worthy of scrap value unfortunately

Just get a new log book, or more likely with a tractor like that, don’t bother and just start off the road.

Le shovelle · 28-03-2021 11:59am

maidhc wrote: »

Just get a new log book, or more likely with a tractor like that, don’t bother and just start off the road.

How hard is it to get a new log book I wonder? Is it something that the existing owner would have to apply for or can anyone do it

jimmy G M · 28-03-2021 1:36pm

kevthegaff wrote: »

She be a grand tractor for scraping

It would be a shame to put that on a scraper.... it's in very good condition...

divillybit · 28-03-2021 4:24pm

jimmy G M wrote: »

It would be a shame to put that on a scraper.... it's in very good condition...

Well she sold quick!!

Say my name · 28-03-2021 4:44pm

divillybit wrote: »

Well she sold quick!!

This is a gas thread! :pac:

divillybit · 28-03-2021 7:21pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-110-90/27646465

This 110/90 looks like good value...

Nekarsulm · 28-03-2021 7:44pm

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Great tractor. Perkins engine

No log book makes it worthy of scrap value unfortunately

Wouldn't agree with your valuation there!

Bass Reeves · 28-03-2021 8:12pm

divillybit wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-110-90/27646465

This 110/90 looks like good value...

15k euro however no hours on add. I suspect that hours are very high. However alot tractors in NI are generally in the cat system. This one is not so that would have effected value as well

kk.man · 28-03-2021 9:19pm

divillybit wrote: »

Is it worth fixing up old MF 165 in the hope of getting a much improved price for it? Néed a better 2nd tractor at home so I'd like to replace it... Ours runs and drives, albeit poorly... Would need a steering overhaul. hitch replaced, new cab etc... Id say its worth 3.5 - 4k based on whats being asked on done deal and 165's are selling quick from what ads I've been following.. Could easily spend 4k on it but I don't think it would be a 8 k tractor if it were fixed up..It'd still be a 165 at the end of the day and they arent able to manage alot of new implements

Has she the Perkins big engine?.. Is she square axle?... The 2 most important things that make a 165. The rest of issues will be superficial like Blue5000 says.

We had one here years ago traded it one of the biggest regrets of my machinery life. It's my aim to buy one again but I need to have a spare few quid first.

divillybit · 28-03-2021 9:36pm

It'd be a round axle 165 we have with the big engine, but yea I'm thinking I'll hold onto it and fix it up little by little

What's the cat system referred to in post 117?

kk.man · 28-03-2021 9:51pm

divillybit wrote: »

It'd be a round axle 165 we have with the big engine, but yea I'm thinking I'll hold onto it and fix it up little by little

What's the cat system referred to in post 117?

Wouldn't be a fan of the round one myself. They don't make as much as the square.

hopeso · 28-03-2021 9:58pm

kk.man wrote: »

Has she the Perkins big engine?.. Is she square axle?... The 2 most important things that make a 165. The rest of issues will be superficial like Blue5000 says.

We had one here years ago traded it one of the biggest regrets of my machinery life. It's my aim to buy one again but I need to have a spare few quid first.

Made the same mistake myself.......

FintanMcluskey · 28-03-2021 10:22pm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Wouldn't agree with your valuation there!

Suppose it’s down to the individual buying and his options to get a book or if it bothers him at all.

Personally I’d never buy a machine for use with no book

Base price · 29-03-2021 12:00am

If I had the money I'd buy this to replace the 880.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-7840/27634835

Bass Reeves · 29-03-2021 12:06am

Base price wrote: »

If I had the money I'd buy this to replace the 880.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-7840/27634835

I be more tempted by this if it is straight and hours genuine

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/case-mxu100/27651851

lab man · 29-03-2021 9:54am

There was a case mx 110 sold at auction in England for 17k what would she cost fully cleared to bring here excluding transport thanks in advance lab man

kevthegaff · 29-03-2021 10:07am

Base price wrote: »

If I had the money I'd buy this to replace the 880.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-7840/27634835

Hrs abit high

muddle84 · 29-03-2021 11:56am

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/international-tractor/27657742

Looks very clean

Dunedin · 29-03-2021 12:41pm

muddle84 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/international-tractor/27657742

Looks very clean

A lot of money for a tractor that’s nearly 40 years old

lakill Farm · 29-03-2021 1:14pm

lab man wrote: »

There was a case mx 110 sold at auction in England for 17k what would she cost fully cleared to bring here excluding transport thanks in advance lab man

€200 to clear a tractor , convert sterling to euro and commission

funkey_monkey · 29-03-2021 1:33pm

Base price wrote: »

If I had the money I'd buy this to replace the 880.

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/ford-7840/27634835

Looks like it was owned by D.C. Brady - contractor up in Cavan.

Lurching · 29-03-2021 2:25pm

Dunedin wrote: »

A lot of money for a tractor that’s nearly 40 years old

Excl VAT too.

hopeso · 29-03-2021 2:41pm

lakill Farm wrote: »

€200 to clear a tractor , convert sterling to euro and commission

I think auction prices are plus VAT too?

lab man · 29-03-2021 3:45pm

Dunedin wrote: »

A lot of money for a tractor that’s nearly 40 years old

If they go wrong youd need some checkbook

Base price · 29-03-2021 5:08pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Looks like it was owned by D.C. Brady - contractor up in Cavan.

It would be well serviced and looked after as they run a top class operation.

amacca · 29-03-2021 11:00pm

lab man wrote: »

If they go wrong youd need some checkbook

I was just thinking it looks like a great deal

What's the potential big ticket costs wirh them ...clutch, brakes, engine? Are parts hard to get?

lab man · 29-03-2021 11:20pm

amacca wrote: »

I was just thinking it looks like a great deal

What's the potential big ticket costs wirh them ...clutch, brakes, engine? Are parts hard to get?

Supposedly the sle gearbox is costly to repair I dine a tm classic box here 2 yrs ago 8k cost me

divillybit · 30-03-2021 9:57pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-88-94/27668856

Alot to be said for the older tractors, and how much power they can have at the pto with no modern electronic transmission sapping it's power. This Fiat 88-94 looks like a good goer, showing 100 hp at the pto.

Pussyhands · 30-03-2021 10:04pm

Wrong thread maybe but I'm from a farm but I have no clue about tractors etc. How do I learn how to fix things and restore things? How do I know what something needs?

Even something like fixing lights, wiring new lighting. Is it difficult to learn?

RandomViewer · 30-03-2021 10:10pm

Pussyhands wrote: »

Wrong thread maybe but I'm from a farm but I have no clue about tractors etc. How do I learn how to fix things and restore things? How do I know what something needs?

Even something like fixing lights, wiring new lighting. Is it difficult to learn?

YouTube videos, lots of stuff up there, there's also lots of dedicated sites ,a lot of agricultural stuff is fairly straightforward ,if you are anyway mechanically minded you should be able to manage quite a few jobs,

Bass Reeves · 30-03-2021 10:58pm

I know its done up and may be targeting the tractor road run market but would pay 11k fot an MF240

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-ferguson-240/27678895

kk.man · 30-03-2021 11:16pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I know its done up and may be targeting the tractor road run market but would pay 11k fot an MF240

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-ferguson-240/27678895

I would not. Being Re registered in this country doesn't help its value. Imo that's 1 to 1.5k off its value. Even if it's a good job done to it, it's still a MF135 in all but name. I think 1987 was one of the last years they were produced on the UK and Irish Market which helps its value.

It's worth 7.5 to 8k but I still wouldn't buy her.

timple23 · 31-03-2021 9:29am

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-f115/27176414?campaign=14

Are there people who would actually buy tractors modified like this?

Jb1989 · 31-03-2021 9:32am

timple23 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-f115/27176414?campaign=14

Are there people who would actually buy tractors modified like this?

Not in them colours anyway. Looks horrible.

kevthegaff · 31-03-2021 10:50am

Theres a nice case 150 on done deal that's black

muddle84 · 31-03-2021 10:52am

kevthegaff wrote: »

Theres a nice case 150 on done deal that's black

They can be bought black as standard though can't they?

endainoz · 31-03-2021 11:13am

timple23 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-f115/27176414?campaign=14

Are there people who would actually buy tractors modified like this?

Looks like someone had a heap of spare black and gold paint they wanted to get rid of, look horrendous.

funkey_monkey · 31-03-2021 11:17am

timple23 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-f115/27176414?campaign=14

Are there people who would actually buy tractors modified like this?

52 days on DD would say not.
If mechanically sound, it is worth a bid - doesn't take much (in the scheme of things) to blow a coat of paint over it. Hard to actually tell the condition of it from the photos, I'd like to know why it was painted in those colours - it looks recent and the smart money would have been in returning it to factory scheme.
A few tacky add-on's but nothing off-putting.

Should probably have addressed the colour scheme in the advert, will get polluted with eejits phoning up wanting to know the heritage of it. Whenever I put up ads I write up a lot of info about it - weeds out people phoning asking stupid questions (mostly).

If it was mechanically sound and the price was right, it wouldn't put me off. I'd drive it about for a while to make sure it was okay and then blow a coat of paint over it.

Not sure if they are looking €25.5k for it. If so, it is step even if it was in standard colours.

Reggie. · 31-03-2021 11:58am

funkey_monkey wrote: »

52 days on DD would say not.
If mechanically sound, it is worth a bid - doesn't take much (in the scheme of things) to blow a coat of paint over it. Hard to actually tell the condition of it from the photos, I'd like to know why it was painted in those colours - it looks recent and the smart money would have been in returning it to factory scheme.
A few tacky add-on's but nothing off-putting.

Should probably have addressed the colour scheme in the advert, will get polluted with eejits phoning up wanting to know the heritage of it. Whenever I put up ads I write up a lot of info about it - weeds out people phoning asking stupid questions (mostly).

If it was mechanically sound and the price was right, it wouldn't put me off. I'd drive it about for a while to make sure it was okay and then blow a coat of paint over it.

Not sure if they are looking €25.5k for it. If so, it is step even if it was in standard colours.

If ya bought that it would have to stay in the yard

jaymla627 · 31-03-2021 12:17pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

52 days on DD would say not.
If mechanically sound, it is worth a bid - doesn't take much (in the scheme of things) to blow a coat of paint over it. Hard to actually tell the condition of it from the photos, I'd like to know why it was painted in those colours - it looks recent and the smart money would have been in returning it to factory scheme.
A few tacky add-on's but nothing off-putting.

Should probably have addressed the colour scheme in the advert, will get polluted with eejits phoning up wanting to know the heritage of it. Whenever I put up ads I write up a lot of info about it - weeds out people phoning asking stupid questions (mostly).

If it was mechanically sound and the price was right, it wouldn't put me off. I'd drive it about for a while to make sure it was okay and then blow a coat of paint over it.

Not sure if they are looking €25.5k for it. If so, it is step even if it was in standard colours.

It’s got the dodgy gearbox so at a max even if original 16k incl vat would be a good price for it, it’s getting very hard to even source parts for f series tractors especially with the gearbox it has

funkey_monkey · 31-03-2021 12:33pm

jaymla627 wrote: »

It’s got the dodgy gearbox so at a max even if original 16k incl vat would be a good price for it, it’s getting very hard to even source parts for f series tractors especially with the gearbox it has

What's the problem with the box?

Bass Reeves · 31-03-2021 12:59pm

Reggie. wrote: »

If ya bought that it would have to stay in the yard

It would be as bad as a landing and that's a fairly new one

This week's classic tractor I'm not buying

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