The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

Deeper Blue · 29-03-2021 5:06pm

JoeA3 wrote: »

The football podcasts badly need another voice other than Giles. I love John but come on, mix it up a bit. Giles is just repeating the same stuff over and over (much like Tomas Ryan).
We need to hear other opinions. Where did Brady and Didi go? Didi in particular was very good but it’s been an age since either were on.

I don't think either of them has been on for at least 6 months at this stage

I'll echo what you've said, I really like Giles but the soccer pods are beyond stale at this point.

mcgucc22 · 29-03-2021 6:06pm

Has Eamon fallen out with Brady? He hasn’t been on in months. Even Didi Hamann or Graham Souness would be a nice change from ‘the best analyst in the world.’ The two lads have been having practically the same conversation for the last 6 months.

omerin · 29-03-2021 6:20pm

Didi moved to Australia and was charged a couple of years ago with assaulting his partner, but i think he was on last year at least once. Brady commented on RTE radio about a week ago, not sure why he hasnt been on in a while.

Eamo had a piece on Cheltenham but dont believe the horse scandal was mentioned, didn't listen so cant confirm.

At this stage he may as well call it a day, its the same old same old. You can read the title notification on your phone of a new episode and can tell who the guest will be, the questions asked and answers given.

trashcan · 29-03-2021 7:23pm

Thesomersarms wrote: »

If you break down the ten games kennys been in charge they never look threatening & he has zero plan in the final third,that is damning and he must take accountability for that.I see us close to losing every other match under him because of the final third issue,he’s lost at sea Yet the pundits won’t state the obvious, I miss Dunphy as a pundit for highlighting the truth, cunningham was cowardly last night

Dunphy was broadly very supportive of Stephen Kenny in the Star today.

Tork · 29-03-2021 8:56pm

omerin wrote: »

At this stage he may as well call it a day, it's the same old same old. You can read the title notification on your phone of a new episode and can tell who the guest will be, the questions asked and the answers given.

I wouldn't tell him to call it a day but he needs to freshen things up a bit. He has some good contributors to the other podcasts and I still give many of those a listen. Ironically, it's the football ones that are now amongst the weakest he produces. I have no problem with him keeping John Giles on the podcasts but they are crying out for the input from a younger person.

nialler1978 · 30-03-2021 6:55pm

JoeA3 wrote: »

The football podcasts badly need another voice other than Giles. I love John but come on, mix it up a bit. Giles is just repeating the same stuff over and over (much like Tomas Ryan).
We need to hear other opinions. Where did Brady and Didi go? Didi in particular was very good but it’s been an age since either were on.

I agree with you but I would say the entire panel of contributors needs more of a mix, it seems to be just Chris Johns, Niall Stanage, Tomás Ryan, Naomi O Leary on repeat these days.

Banana Republic 1 · 31-03-2021 11:12am

Surely someone would take eamon aside and say “if you’re going to use the right wing hacks, journalists and after dinner speakers again I’ll break your legs”

Utopia Parkway · 31-03-2021 2:05pm

Another episode of the Eamo & Tomas show today. 3rd time on in 12 days.

Did you smash it · 31-03-2021 2:08pm

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Surely someone would take eamon aside and say “if you’re going to use the right wing hacks, journalists and after dinner speakers again I’ll break your legs”

Dunphy has no problem with right wing backs, he just thinks Coleman should play there not Doherty.

Banana Republic 1 · 31-03-2021 2:15pm

Did you smash it wrote: »

Dunphy has no problem with right wing backs, he just thinks Coleman should play there not Doherty.

It doesn’t really matter now anyway looks like Ireland will be boycotting the World Cup after all, course not intentionally mind.

Ash.J.Williams · 31-03-2021 2:27pm

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Surely someone would take eamon aside and say “if you’re going to use the right wing hacks, journalists and after dinner speakers again I’ll break your legs”

tubridy is our national leg breaker

Tork · 31-03-2021 4:18pm

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Surely someone would take Eamon aside and say “if you’re going to use the right-wing hacks, journalists and after dinner speakers again I’ll break your legs”

Has anybody ever mentioned that somebody in Sweden got an Anders Tegnell tattoo? Or that Trump told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by?

padd b1975 · 01-04-2021 7:18pm

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Surely someone would take eamon aside and say “if you’re going to use the right wing hacks, journalists and after dinner speakers again I’ll break your legs”

Could be time to start an Eamo bingo card.

Is it not?

Tork · 01-04-2021 7:50pm

I wonder do his listening figures go down much when certain guests come on? For example, I haven't bothered to listen to a Tomás Ryan episode for several months and have the feeling I am not missing much or hearing anything new. The Russian one is good for a laugh if I'm in the mood for satire but otherwise, it's not crucial. He seems to have dropped Brendan O'Neill, which is no loss because he was a poor quality contributor - has Chris Johns replaced him?

Banana Republic 1 · 01-04-2021 9:27pm

padd b1975 wrote: »

Could be time to start an Eamo bingo card.

Is it not?

You mean a snorting game.

Beechwoodspark · 03-04-2021 11:26am

Had to turn off the latest Verona Murphy one

She literally just rants and raves away at length and every so often eamo says a quiet “yeah”

Utopia Parkway · 06-04-2021 11:55pm

Eamon really gives Billy Hutchinson laughably soft interviews. Took Billy about one minute to start blaming nationalists for loyalist rioting and Eamon just nods along saying "yes" every 5 seconds.

hermano · 07-04-2021 9:22am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Eamon really gives Billy Hutchinson laughably soft interviews. Took Billy about one minute to start blaming nationalists for loyalist rioting and Eamon just nods along saying "yes" every 5 seconds.

He tried to push that Boris screwed them over but immediately backed down when Billy said it was Dublin's fault. As you said laughable

Cazale · 07-04-2021 9:29am

Utopia Parkway wrote:

Eamon really gives Billy Hutchinson laughably soft interviews. Took Billy about one minute to start blaming nationalists for loyalist rioting and Eamon just nods along saying "yes" every 5 seconds.

He used to have Billy Hutchinson on the Last Word analysing premier league football matches. This was during a time when loyalists were actively murdering Catholics. His only qualification for it was that he was a Leeds fan. Dunphy got annoyed when listeners called him out on it.

Hutchinson himself of course killed two Catholic men on their way to work one morning. When asked recently did he regret it he said no and tried to justify it as taking the war to the Provisional IRA. I remember seeing him attending protests for workers rights a few years ago and thought about the rights of those two workers he had killed.

nialler1978 · 07-04-2021 1:10pm

Cazale wrote: »

He used to have Billy Hutchinson on the Last Word analysing premier league football matches. This was during a time when loyalists were actively murdering Catholics. His only qualification for it was that he was a Leeds fan. Dunphy got annoyed when listeners called him out on it.

Hutchinson himself of course killed two Catholic men on their way to work one morning. When asked recently did he regret it he said no and tried to justify it as taking the war to the Provisional IRA. I remember seeing him attending protests for workers rights a few years ago and thought about the rights of those two workers he had killed.

I saw that interview too, sickening.

So what gives? Why is Dunphy doing this, is it just sh*t stirring attention seeking stuff and publicity attached with this or is it deeper than that, is he some kind of loyalist sympathiser? He seems to be so righteous on other human and civil rights issues. Hutchinson should not be given any airtime on Irish radio, not only because of his past and how unapologetic he is but because he has so little to add to any discussion on anything.

purelike · 07-04-2021 11:57pm

Does anyone know what the music is at the start of the podcast?

mcgucc22 · 08-04-2021 7:44am

yes, Yes, YES.

JDigweed · 08-04-2021 8:12am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Eamon really gives Billy Hutchinson laughably soft interviews. Took Billy about one minute to start blaming nationalists for loyalist rioting and Eamon just nods along saying "yes" every 5 seconds.

The classic Loyalist response to everything. The problem is that the Irish government are still rightly pursuing reunification and polls down south are consistently showing support for it.
The British government on the other hand has pulled further away from NI and has done so for the last few decades. They know damn well that the NI of old is gone and that a break away from the UK is inevitable. It may take further decades but its happening as we speak.
Also let's not forget that the PSNI have carried out a lot of raids on "Loyalist" gangsters in the week leading up to this. The rioting over the protocol is just a smokescreen... Let's be honest here if you pulled one of those young lads and asked them to explain why there is custom checks in Larne Port they wouldn't have a clue

Genghis · 08-04-2021 8:32am

Used to credit Dunphy for allowing both sides in NI space on radio to give their side. I distinctly remember some of his last word shows around the time of the GFA where he put people's past to one side to focus on a new future.

Would still say fair play for allowing Billy Hutchinson on, but the lack of any hard questions or challenge was infuriating. I am no fan of SF, but I genuinely don't think their vision is to not have a prod about the place, as Billy put it. I also don't think that in aII scenario, unionists / loyalists would be discriminated against the way Catholics were (which Billy seems to fear). While he did advocate peaceful protest over crime, on balance he purported to say the violent protests were justified and the fault of everyone else.

If there is a conclusion from the interview it's that the PUP under Billy is no longer progressive, it's anti everyone else, anti Dublin, anti London, anti SF and anti DUP.

nsnoefc1878 · 09-04-2021 8:57am

I'm no expert on the subject of the North, I'm a big fan generally of the podcast but good to see others mention how soft that interview was.
He did not challenge him on anything really, just agreed with everything that was said.
Hutchinson just exudes anger and bitterness, some of that is surely understandable, but he does not strike me for one minute as a conciliatory person and one who is about building bridge and mending wounds.
One point he makes that carrys weight is the fact that even if a poll on a united Ireland took place, whatever way it goes, you end up with a very signiificant minority that is unhappy. Thats a very valid point.
But that wasnt an interview in my view, it was merely a soapbox for Hutchinson to display his dislike (thats a kind way to phrase it) of Nationalism and Republicanism.

Deeper Blue · 09-04-2021 8:31pm

Perhaps not relevant to many on this thread but on the golf episodes Eamon has mentioned a few times that coverage of golf in the media and golf journalism in general is "poor". He states this as if it's a well-known fact.

As a golf fan I'm not really sure where he's getting this from. Also considering he's not a massive golf fan himself I'd be surprised if he's well versed in the week-on-week coverage of the sport.

Knowing Eamo it's likely a baseless statement and merely a means of brown-nosing his guest.

generalgerry · 10-04-2021 11:57am

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Eamon really gives Billy Hutchinson laughably soft interviews. Took Billy about one minute to start blaming nationalists for loyalist rioting and Eamon just nods along saying "yes" every 5 seconds.

I think Billy Hutchison is afforded far softer interviews by all broadcasters in this country. Far softer than would be given to Republicans who were involved in similar to activities as he was when he was a young terrorist.

humberklog · 10-04-2021 5:02pm

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Perhaps not relevant to many on this thread but on the golf episodes Eamon has mentioned a few times that coverage of golf in the media and golf journalism in general is "poor". He states this as if it's a well-known fact.

As a golf fan I'm not really sure where he's getting this from. Also considering he's not a massive golf fan himself I'd be surprised if he's well versed in the week-on-week coverage of the sport.

Knowing Eamo it's likely a baseless statement and merely a means of brown-nosing his guest.

I got the distinct impression he was having a thinly veiled pop at someone in particular.
I wouldn't be up on my Golf writers to hazard a guess though.

In the early days on the pod he had Dermot Gilleece on, it's a pity he wasn't able to hang onto him. An entertaining and knowledgeable man.

nialler1978 · 10-04-2021 6:51pm

Deeper Blue wrote: »

Perhaps not relevant to many on this thread but on the golf episodes Eamon has mentioned a few times that coverage of golf in the media and golf journalism in general is "poor". He states this as if it's a well-known fact.

As a golf fan I'm not really sure where he's getting this from. Also considering he's not a massive golf fan himself I'd be surprised if he's well versed in the week-on-week coverage of the sport.

Knowing Eamo it's likely a baseless statement and merely a means of brown-nosing his guest.

just speculating, but is it one of the following, is he going on an anti-white elitist sport rant where they don't voice enough in support of discrimination against black people and women OR/BOTH not much discussion around doping and drug usage in the sport (or because trump plays golf)

None of this is my view something I would take issue with and I find the golf commentators to be extremely good at identifying and analysing the smallest of things to viewers, but I would imagine if Eamo has a problem with them it would be because of some woke crusade he has imagined rather than their journalistic prowess.

Either way, his show is utter muck. I used like him on various media, hes now just a ranting very, very doddery aul lad. Hang up the mic and earphones.

jaykay74 · 10-04-2021 7:16pm

purelike wrote:

Does anyone know what the music is at the start of the podcast?

Stone roses, love spreads.

Still Ill · 10-04-2021 8:03pm

jaykay74 wrote: »

Stone roses, love spreads.

Aren't you thinking of his Last Word intro? Or is his pod intro a different bit of the song I forget?

steve_r · 10-04-2021 8:38pm

Is it actually from a song? Just tried to Shazam it and no result

EltonJohn69 · 10-04-2021 9:15pm

steve_r wrote: »

Is it actually from a song? Just tried to Shazam it and no result

I assumed it was just some random generic thing you license for podcast and other things. Doesn’t sound like an actual song.

Say Your Number · 10-04-2021 9:30pm

Sounds very like Crossroads by Cream, but it's faster than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE9HvSdcaL4

humberklog · 10-04-2021 10:04pm

Still Ill wrote: »

Aren't you thinking of his Last Word intro? Or is his pod intro a different bit of the song I forget?

No he's thinking of TLW. The pod intro isn't The Stone Roses. Dunno who it is.

Still Ill · 10-04-2021 11:00pm

humberklog wrote: »

No he's thinking of TLW. The pod intro isn't The Stone Roses. Dunno who it is.

Yeah... That's what I said! :pac:

jaykay74 · 10-04-2021 11:42pm

Still Ill wrote:

Aren't you thinking of his Last Word intro? Or is his pod intro a different bit of the song I forget?

That's bizarre. You're right, it's not the stone roses. Or anything like it really. Think I was mixed up with the last word maybe!

humberklog · 11-04-2021 12:23am

Whatever it is it's bloody loud!
Always catches me out when I'm going from one pod cast to that one and the intro music comes on.

Still Ill · 11-04-2021 12:56am

humberklog wrote: »

Whatever it is it's bloody loud!
Always catches me out when I'm going from one pod cast to that one and the intro music comes on.

Haha.. Yeah! It's so so irritating when I'm cycling and I go from Second Captains to Dunphy.. Blows the ears off of me sometimes when I have it turned up!

EltonJohn69 · 11-04-2021 12:58am

humberklog wrote: »

Whatever it is it's bloody loud!
Always catches me out when I'm going from one pod cast to that one and the intro music comes on.

Agreed.

Tork · 11-04-2021 11:36am

It's a horrible theme tune, whatever it is. Loud guitar intros must be Eamon's thing. At a guess, it's probably some sort of generic copyright free thing that he doesn't have to pay royalties for.

11-04-2021 11:51am

Tork wrote: »

It's a horrible theme tune, whatever it is. Loud guitar intros must be Eamon's thing. At a guess, it's probably some sort of generic copyright free thing that he doesn't have to pay royalties for.

may like to think that he's Rock 'n' Roll but Muzak is probably more his speed in reality!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioi_-5sAuXQ

15-04-2021 8:37pm

I’m being nosey here, but do we have any idea what sort of money Dunphy is making with the podcast? It’s consistently up near the top of the Irish charts. I know he mentioned that podcasting was something he long wanted to do, and it suits him. I also know he’s very fond of money.

Beechwoodspark · 15-04-2021 8:48pm

Would be interested to know the economics of it too

On face of it the only income he generates from it is the sponsorship?

Don’t think any of the podcast platforms pay

Tork · 15-04-2021 9:09pm

I'd say it's just the Tesco money he's getting, unless he gets a few bob from Putin for giving that Russian lackey airtime? The podcast is unlikely to have big overheads. He uses Soundcloud and a paid hosting package with them costs just under €100 per year. After that, I assume he's mostly paying the humans. The person who helps produce, edit and upload the podcasts and the contributors. They're probably not getting a lot.

15-04-2021 10:06pm

impossible to know how much he gets

re the podcast he's getting over 1 million streams a month so it's worth something to Tesco

maybe he gets 200k a year?

25k production and editing costs? (guess)

would he be paying many of the contributors? probably very little - €100 a pop maybe.

Tork · 15-04-2021 10:52pm

I doubt he gets anywhere near €200k a year. If sponsors were throwing money at podcasts, would they really be full of adverts and bonus Patreon material? I think Eamo is benefitting from getting into the podcast game early, building up an audience and being a fairly simple operation.

15-04-2021 11:11pm

Tork wrote: »

I doubt he gets anywhere near €200k a year. If sponsors were throwing money at podcasts, would they really be full of adverts and bonus Patreon material? I think Eamo is benefitting from getting into the podcast game early, building up an audience and being a fairly simple operation.

He does have great brand recognition at this stage when it comes to who his sponsor is. I don't shop there, but I do associate the store with his podcast.

I get the feeling he would do the podcast anyway, as it's the ideal format for a lad who always wants to be part of the wider discussion about current affairs in Ireland. I say that as someone who listens to most of the shows, and really likes Dunphy in general.

Can't help but think there's a bit of a bubble in the podcast scene at the moment. Maybe Patreon are going to offer a subscription service in the hope they, and the podcasters, get a pay out when they get bought by Spotify or Microsoft. I do think the era of free-to-air podcasting is going to come to an end unless there's a way of monetising it.

A licence fee for example!

15-04-2021 11:22pm

may not be a million miles off that at all....

advertising cost per 1,000 listeners is $18 for a 30 second ad on standard podcast rates currently - let's call it 15 euro

https://www.advertisecast.com/podcast-advertising-rates

over 1 million listens a month - call it 1.1 million. that's 1,100 x 1,000 listeners

therefore 15 euro x 1,100 = 16,500 is the monthly value to Tesco even though he often mentions Tesco twice in the pod

12 x 16,500 = €198,000 per year.

you'd want to be a fool to think that the money paid is not correlated to listeners

that's the only income - the gross

less 25k production, editing, podcast hosting etc

less average 100 a go for contributor - that's 700 a week as he's averaging 1 a day or so - that's 35k a year

so 60k costs off that.

15-04-2021 11:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

He does have great brand recognition at this stage when it comes to who his sponsor is. I don't shop there, but I do associate the store with his podcast.

I get the feeling he would do the podcast anyway, as it's the ideal format for a lad who always wants to be part of the wider discussion about current affairs in Ireland. I say that as someone who listens to most of the shows, and really likes Dunphy in general.

Can't help but think there's a bit of a bubble in the podcast scene at the moment. Maybe Patreon are going to offer a subscription service in the hope they, and the podcasters, get a pay out when they get bought by Spotify or Microsoft. I do think the era of free-to-air podcasting is going to come to an end unless there's a way of monetising it.

A licence fee for example!

have you heard of advertising?

ad-supported podcasts are here to stay, notwithstanding the small amount of them that will be behind paywalls.

The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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