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Swine Flu Vaccination + general swine flu chat thread

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  • #702
    bobbyhoskins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭bobbyhoskins


    <MOD SNIP> Is there really any point in getting it at this point?


  • #703
    locum-motion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    bobbyhoskins wrote: »
    <MOD SNIP> Is there really any point in getting it at this point?

    AFAIK, Yes.
    It hasn't gone away, and the more people get it the better the chance of an overall herd immunity developing.


  • #704
    WildBoots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭WildBoots


    locum-motion wrote: »
    AFAIK, Yes.
    It hasn't gone away, and the more people get it the better the chance of an overall herd immunity developing.

    What proportion of the population needs to be vaccinated for herd immunity to be effective?


  • #705
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    WildBoots wrote: »
    What proportion of the population needs to be vaccinated for herd immunity to be effective?
    Obviously you'd have to check more reliable sources to confirm this, but wikipedia has a table with various threshold percentages for some illnesses. Not swine flu specifically though.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity

    edit:

    Here ya go (PDF file):
    http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/training/overview/pdf/eradicationhistory.pdf

    Page 17


  • #706
    littlebug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Has anyone any idea of the general vaccine uptake rates? My kids got theirs this week through the school scheme. I was surprised (or maybe not) at how few people got it.


  • #707
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I'm also interested in this actually, could never find out


  • #708
    LoopyLaura
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭LoopyLaura


    What e ver happened to the swine flu. We didn't have the first outbreak, then the scientists had us braced for a second outbreak, that did not occur either.

    Thank God I never got the shot.


  • #709
    tallaght01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    What e ver happened to the swine flu. We didn't have the first outbreak, then the scientists had us braced for a second outbreak, that did not occur either.

    Thank God I never got the shot.

    Well, the second wave may or may not happen.

    But if you would be ballsy enough to ignore a new strain of pandemic flu, in the hope that good fortune will see you through, then A) very few people in the medical community would take you seriously and B) you'd want to have your medical insurance in order.


  • #710
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Thank god you never got the shot? Why? Cos you'd have grown an extra ear or somethin?

    Thank god you never got swine flu instead

    And thank god that the strain didn't happen to be particularly virulent

    And maybe pray to your god to make sure it doesn't mutate, cos that's still a possibility


  • #711
    LoopyLaura
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭LoopyLaura


    tallaght01 wrote: »
    Well, the second wave may or may not happen..

    well it was due 6 months ago.

    tallaght01 wrote: »
    But if you would be ballsy enough to ignore a new strain of pandemic flu, in the hope that good fortune will see you through, ..

    Oh I'm ballsy enough, no need to worry there.
    tallaght01 wrote: »
    then A) very few people in the medical community would take you seriously.

    Like I care.
    tallaght01 wrote: »

    and B) you'd want to have your medical insurance in order.

    Don't have medical insurance.
    Dave! wrote: »
    Thank god you never got the shot?

    Thank god you never got swine flu instead

    I never got either the shot or the flu.
    Dave! wrote: »
    And thank god that the strain didn't happen to be particularly virulent

    Oh but it was virulent, it cleaned out the health budget for billions.
    Dave! wrote: »
    And maybe pray to your god to make sure it doesn't mutate, cos that's still a possibility

    Shaking in my boots.


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  • #712
    tallaght01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    well it was due 6 months ago.




    Oh I'm ballsy enough, no need to worry there.



    Like I care.



    Don't have medical insurance.



    I never got either the shot or the flu.



    Oh but it was virulent, it cleaned out the health budget for billions.



    Shaking in my boots.


    Well, the 2nd wave is expected april/may earliest. Bout 7 months later in Europe.

    But thanks for your input. I'll make sure everyone is aware of your thoughts.


  • #713
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    What e ver happened to the swine flu. We didn't have the first outbreak, then the scientists had us braced for a second outbreak, that did not occur either.

    Thank God I never got the shot.

    Over 800 hospitalised, and 24 deaths. Statistically we were incredibly lucky- if we were hit in a similar manner to almost any other country- we'd have at least 3 times this level.

    I have a sister who was hospitalised on a respirator in New Zealand, unable to breath, from Swine Flu.

    We were hit by a different, weaker strain, than many other places- and there is an upswing beginning to be tracked on the radar (as evidenced by the two deaths last week- months after the previous fatalities).

    Look at what happening in Australia and elsewhere.........


  • #714
    LoopyLaura
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭LoopyLaura


    tallaght01 wrote: »
    Well, the 2nd wave is expected april/may earliest. Bout 7 months later in Europe..

    The second wave was expected last September/October.

    tallaght01 wrote: »
    But thanks for your input. I'll make sure everyone is aware of your thoughts.

    Cheers.


  • #715
    LoopyLaura
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭LoopyLaura


    smccarrick wrote: »
    Over 800 hospitalised, and 24 deaths.

    Wait a minute, people were not even tested for swine flu, they were diagnosed according to symptoms, are you aware that thousands of people die from the normal flu every year???


  • #716
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    Wait a minute, people were not even tested for swine flu, they were diagnosed according to symptoms, are you aware that thousands of people die from the normal flu every year???

    People were tested- until the preponderance of cases were such that the vast majority of lab results were positive. There are always several different flu strains in circulation- the different variants of swine flu make up the bulk on this occasion.

    I am fully aware that thousands of people die from regular flu every year- but thousands of younger people who very often may not have any underlying medical condition- do not. Normally flu targets the infirm, the very young and the very old. Swine flu discriminates in favour of a different demographic.

    Why are you so antagonistic?


  • #717
    LoopyLaura
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭LoopyLaura


    smccarrick wrote: »
    People were tested- until the preponderance of cases were such that the vast majority of lab results were positive.

    As far as I am aware, patients were never tested in this manner.

    smccarrick wrote: »
    I am fully aware that thousands of people die from regular flu every year- but thousands of younger people who very often may not have any underlying medical condition- do not.?

    You name one young person with no underlying condition to have died from the swine flu.
    smccarrick wrote: »

    Why are you so antagonistic?

    I hate to see people being taken advantage of.


  • #718
    Dave!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    As far as I am aware, patients were never tested in this manner.




    You name one young person with no underlying condition to have died from the swine flu.



    I hate to see people being taken advantage of.
    Here ya go

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8145389.stm

    The family didn't want the name released


  • #719
    sam34
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    ok Laura, go take the conspiracy stuff elsewhere please.

    this is a scientific discussion forum

    any more unfounded crap and low level trolling will get you banned


  • #720
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    As far as I am aware, patients were never tested in this manner.

    How are you qualified to state that patients were not tested in this manner?
    According to the Irish times- lab testing occurred up to the point that GPs were swamped with positive results in July of last year. Article here

    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    You name one young person with no underlying condition to have died from the swine flu.

    2 pregnant women with no underlying medical conditions, and one 18 year old guy are among the HSE statistics. They didn't release names.
    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    I hate to see people being taken advantage of.

    How is offering people a vaccination taking advantage of them?


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  • #721
    LoopyLaura
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭LoopyLaura


    Dave! wrote: »
    Here ya go

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8145389.stm

    The family didn't want the name released

    No mention of age here.
    sam34 wrote: »
    ok Laura, go take the conspiracy stuff elsewhere please.

    this is a scientific discussion forum

    any more unfounded crap and low level trolling will get you banned

    I am giving my opinions, I would prefer if you did not ridicule my views.
    smccarrick wrote: »
    How are you qualified to state that patients were not tested in this manner??


    I have every right to have an opinion of my own. Your article merely backs up my point, people were diagnosed without being tested, hardly scientific, is it?
    smccarrick wrote: »
    2 pregnant women with no underlying medical conditions, and one 18 year old guy are among the HSE statistics. They didn't release names.


    I'd like to know more about these cases. Why not release the names, I'm sure the family would not have objected, after all raising awareness would prevent unnecessary deaths.


  • #722
    sam34
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    LoopyLaura wrote: »
    I am giving my opinions, I would prefer if you did not ridicule my views.

    you have posted on a scientific discussion forum, yet what you have posted is merely inflammatory, insinuating, unfounded rubbish, and you are deliberately goading well-established and respected posters.

    as i said, if you persist with it you will be banned.

    you've been warned twice.


  • #723
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    smccarrick wrote: »
    Why are you so antagonistic?

    Em..."loopy".;)


  • #724
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    New thread or raise the dead..

    €990,000 for boy (16) who developed narcolepsy after receiving swine flu jab a decade ago
    https://www.independent.ie/news/990000-for-boy-16-who-developed-narcolepsy-after-receiving-swine-flu-jab-a-decade-ago-40136378.html

    Not great timing for this to be settled, should have happened last year as planned or way earlier.


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