Video teaching

Bobtheman · 31-12-2020 11:16am #1

Hello
I'm familiar with goggle classroom. Is goggle meets the best method for video teaching? How does it work exactly? Our students use goggle classroom.

TheValeyard · 31-12-2020 11:31am

I've used Microsoft Teams, Google classrooms and zoom.

My personal preference for teaching is Teams. Easier for students to use, class groups, etc. Just my preference due to access for all office like PowerPoint, word, etc although Google has an equivalent.

Bobtheman · 31-12-2020 1:09pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

I've used Microsoft Teams, Google classrooms and zoom.

My personal preference for teaching is Teams. Easier for students to use, class groups, etc. Just my preference due to access for all office like PowerPoint, word, etc although Google has an equivalent.

But if the kids are connected to goggle classroom - can they use teams? Excuse my ignorance

Treppen · 31-12-2020 3:58pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

But if the kids are connected to goggle classroom - can they use teams? Excuse my ignorance

They can use as many different platforms as they like.
But usually a school will stick to either ....
1. Google
2. Microsoft
.. With smatterings of zoom

I find zoom the most stable of all video.

Bobtheman · 31-12-2020 4:24pm

Treppen wrote: »

They can use as many different platforms as they like.
But usually a school will stick to either ....
1. Google
2. Microsoft
.. With smatterings of zoom

I find zoom the most stable of all video.

Is Teams secure?

Treppen · 31-12-2020 7:43pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Is Teams secure?

I suppose if you're a host you can kick people out just like Google meets or zoom.

You'll never get randomers crashing your class... Unless you share the code early and your students pass it on.

For ease of use of go zoom.

bubblemassage · 31-12-2020 8:28pm

All ETBs have Teams licenses as far as I know, so you might be able to get set up for free on it. Check with your school/area. It's very straight forward. Microsoft have loads of training events and seminars.

Smacruairi · 01-01-2021 3:42am

Go with what your school has decided. Nothing worse than one teacher going on a solo run and raising the bar to unrealistic heights when a standard should be adopted.

Random sample · 01-01-2021 9:04am

Smacruairi wrote: »

Go with what your school has decided. Nothing worse than one teacher going on a solo run and raising the bar to unrealistic heights when a standard should be adopted.

We have been told we must all use the same one. Feedback from parents and students in June was that it was overwhelming switching between platforms.

TheValeyard · 01-01-2021 10:28am

Smacruairi wrote: »

Go with what your school has decided. Nothing worse than one teacher going on a solo run and raising the bar to unrealistic heights when a standard should be adopted.

This.

mirrorwall14 · 02-01-2021 12:41am

Bobtheman wrote: »

Hello
I'm familiar with goggle classroom. Is goggle meets the best method for video teaching? How does it work exactly? Our students use goggle classroom.

Thought I replied earlier but got distracted. Yes google meets works with google classroom. Go to settings in any classroom and turn on the google meet option. It will then appear in the classroom header. Students cannot join it until you are in asfaik.

We’re a google school, happy to help if I can

Treppen · 02-01-2021 2:40am

BTW if anyone has a few old laptops lying around they can be converted to "Chromebooks" very easily with neverware.

ethical · 03-01-2021 12:07am

You are allaware the fact that Union does not look kindly on the use of live video.
It is a minefield,cameras,GDPR etc,will your school stand by you should anything happen? I DOUBT IT.

TheValeyard · 03-01-2021 12:50am

ethical wrote: »

You are allaware the fact that Union does not look kindly on the use of live video.
It is a minefield,cameras,GDPR etc,will your school stand by you should anything happen? I DOUBT IT.

We were all instructed to keep cameras off during the lockdown last year. Staff and students.

mirrorwall14 · 03-01-2021 1:21am

TheValeyard wrote: »

We were all instructed to keep cameras off during the lockdown last year. Staff and students.

Cameras off, presenter mode on so all that’s on screen is the PowerPoint or app I’m presenting

TheValeyard · 03-01-2021 1:31am

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Cameras off, presenter mode on so all that’s on screen is the PowerPoint or app I’m presenting

Exactly.

pandoraj09 · 05-01-2021 6:14pm

I'm in a DEIS school and the thought of video teaching the juniors makes me feel ill!! I have 46 first years. What's the easiest way of recording a lesson and putting it up on Google classroom for the students to watch themselves? I'd be doing the recording on my laptop. I'd have the book open in front of me and the students would have their own textbooks at home so no powerpoint or anything? Thanks in advance.

mirrorwall14 · 05-01-2021 6:43pm

pandoraj09 wrote: »

I'm in a DEIS school and the thought of video teaching the juniors makes me feel ill!! I have 46 first years. What's the easiest way of recording a lesson and putting it up on Google classroom for the students to watch themselves? I'd be doing the recording on my laptop. I'd have the book open in front of me and the students would have their own textbooks at home so no powerpoint or anything? Thanks in advance.

What do you want in the lesson? Few ways to do it

Get the digital textbook open on your computer, use loom (free upgrade for educators) or screencastify to screen record as you talk over it then share the link on google classroom

Record a video lesson using your phone. Then upload it. If using this though you need to reduce the video quality because it’ll be massive. If you have students with internet issues they’ll struggle

Smacruairi · 05-01-2021 6:44pm

Or take pictures of textbook, insert pics into a PowerPoint and then voice record over them.

pandoraj09 · 05-01-2021 6:57pm

Ok. Thanks for the replies. I just want to record my voice so the students can play the lesson on google classroom while having their books open in front of them. I'll try what has been suggested above. I was hoping I could record my voice on my phone, Samsung galaxy S9, and post the voice recording to google classroom.

mirrorwall14 · 05-01-2021 7:29pm

pandoraj09 wrote: »

Ok. Thanks for the replies. I just want to record my voice so the students can play the lesson on google classroom while having their books open in front of them. I'll try what has been suggested above. I was hoping I could record my voice on my phone, Samsung galaxy S9, and post the voice recording to google classroom.

I would suggest that having something on screen would be better for them than an audio recording so they know they’re on the right page etc.

Install loom
Log in
Open a blank PowerPoint
Open loom and choose your settings (you can turn on screen only with no headshot of you for example)
Hit record
Then stop
A website will automatically open
Post that link on google classroom

Google classroom doesn’t always play well with audio files either. Even as a music teacher I avoid them where possible as they are often not compatible with the kids various phones and devices no matter what they do.

pandoraj09 · 05-01-2021 7:30pm

Mirrorwall thanks a million for that

Random sample · 05-01-2021 8:10pm

Can you add voice recordings to powerpoints that are already made up?

Smacruairi · 05-01-2021 8:46pm

Random sample wrote: »

Can you add voice recordings to powerpoints that are already made up?

Yes. Go to insert audio. Means you just record the audio for each slide rather than having to do a big 45min clip.

mirrorwall14 · 05-01-2021 8:49pm

Smacruairi wrote: »

Yes. Go to insert audio. Means you just record the audio for each slide rather than having to do a big 45min clip.

Oh I totally misread that as the audio files were made up not the PowerPoints. Duh lol

Town Man · 09-01-2021 11:52pm

I have been using Screencast O Matic and posting the links created into Teams for the students to view in their own time. I find it very user friendly. I have been using the free version but I think the next upgrade is €20 for the year but haven't needed to yet.

amacca · 10-01-2021 11:27am

is microsoft stream any good?....dont see many mentioning it?

beveragelady · 10-01-2021 12:23pm

I see a lot of people recommending Loom. I tired it once in March, recording about 15 minutes at a time. It was taking literally hours* to upload so I re-recorded it in 3 or 4 minute segments, which repeatedly failed to upload. Often the last minute or so would be missing. Every time an upload failed I had to make a fresh recording of the segment, I couldn't find a way to access the one that had failed to upload the first time.

It was a huge waste of time and I never tried it again. Am I the only person who had this experience?

I don't use the word 'literally' lightly.

Edit - Attached is a speed test. Probably at least part of the problem...

Treppen · 10-01-2021 12:47pm

beveragelady wrote: »

I see a lot of people recommending Loom. I tired it once in March, recording about 15 minutes at a time. It was taking literally hours* to upload so I re-recorded it in 3 or 4 minute segments, which repeatedly failed to upload. Often the last minute or so would be missing. Every time an upload failed I had to make a fresh recording of the segment, I couldn't find a way to access the one that had failed to upload the first time.

It was a huge waste of time and I never tried it again. Am I the only person who had this experience?

I don't use the word 'literally' lightly.

Edit - Attached is a speed test. Probably at least part of the problem...

Wow, what plan are you on for broadband?

mirrorwall14 · 10-01-2021 1:07pm

beveragelady wrote: »

I see a lot of people recommending Loom. I tired it once in March, recording about 15 minutes at a time. It was taking literally hours* to upload so I re-recorded it in 3 or 4 minute segments, which repeatedly failed to upload. Often the last minute or so would be missing. Every time an upload failed I had to make a fresh recording of the segment, I couldn't find a way to access the one that had failed to upload the first time.

It was a huge waste of time and I never tried it again. Am I the only person who had this experience?

I don't use the word 'literally' lightly.

Edit - Attached is a speed test. Probably at least part of the problem...

Wow that speed test is horrific. I suspect that’s probably a large part of the problem. In your case I’d be using handbrake or other to make it as small as you possibly can before upload

A few other things,

Is that a mobile phone package? If so yikes.

Are you using WiFi?

If your connection is that bad you really need to be wired into the box. We never thought to explain this to staff and students, it will be explained on Monday at in service

beveragelady · 10-01-2021 1:49pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Wow that speed test is horrific. I suspect that’s probably a large part of the problem. In your case I’d be using handbrake or other to make it as small as you possibly can before upload

A few other things,

Is that a mobile phone package? If so yikes.

Are you using WiFi?

If your connection is that bad you really need to be wired into the box. We never thought to explain this to staff and students, it will be explained on Monday at in service

This is rural broadband, ethernet cable into the box. This is real, and it's not all that unusual.
I have no mobile phone reception inside my house, I have to put on a coat and go up the hill behind my house if I want to upload things from my phone. In 21st Century Ireland!

mirrorwall14 · 10-01-2021 2:07pm

beveragelady wrote: »

This is rural broadband, ethernet cable into the box. This is real, and it's not all that unusual.
I have no mobile phone reception inside my house, I have to put on a coat and go up the hill behind my house if I want to upload things from my phone. In 21st Century Ireland!

God that’s awful! Yeah loom not really an option in this case tbh. There might be another option that has a pause in the screen record but doesn’t try to upload. Do you have the ability to install software on your device?

lulublue22 · 10-01-2021 2:13pm

Hi All

I’m interested in screencast is this an app I download ?

beveragelady · 10-01-2021 3:01pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

God that’s awful! Yeah loom not really an option in this case tbh. There might be another option that has a pause in the screen record but doesn’t try to upload. Do you have the ability to install software on your device?

It's my own laptop, nothing is provided by the school here!

mirrorwall14 · 10-01-2021 3:31pm

beveragelady wrote: »

It's my own laptop, nothing is provided by the school here!

I know that feeling. Most of my stuff is my own but the MacBook is the schools when the ETB panicked about GDPR.

I haven’t used it but maybe https://obsproject.com/

Might do the job? Really the pause function or look is the bit I love the most because it means almost no post editing or re-recording

beauf · 10-01-2021 3:31pm

PowerPoint has desktop screen recording built in. It can record anything on the desktop not just PowerPoint. The recording can be exported as MP4 (video). I use it for IT demo's. Makes smallish files.

Most IT training shows the instructor very little if ever. You really only have live video for meetings or chats. It important to engage with people and it's difficult to do that if you its only instructional.

In IT video training and eLearning has been a thing for a long time. But I can imagine it's a massive leaning curve and very daunting. But not simply the tech. The protocols around it which you have to find a balance between what you are comfortable with. Also what is good practice..

It becomes easier with practise. Practice doing it on your own against a clock.

mirrorwall14 · 10-01-2021 3:32pm

lulublue22 wrote: »

Hi All

I’m interested in screencast is this an app I download ?

There’s a few things with screencast in the name. What are you looking for it to do?

lulublue22 · 10-01-2021 3:42pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

There’s a few things with screencast in the name. What are you looking for it to do?

I thought it was similar to loom ? I used loom during the last lockdown ( free version ) but not all parents were able to access it .

Coneygree · 10-01-2021 3:57pm

Screencastomatic is the one I was told about and I just bought a year subscription for 20 dollars. Haven't used it yet but will probably trial it tonight or tomorrow morning. Our kids aren't getting their books from school until tomorrow so we're not assigning real work until Tuesday.

Moody_mona · 10-01-2021 4:45pm

amacca wrote: »

is microsoft stream any good?....dont see many mentioning it?

I liked stream last year. I was recording solutions using the app and it saved them directly online. Then I added a Stream tab to my Teams pages and students could access them. I will use it again if I do prerecords this year.

beauf · 10-01-2021 4:58pm

There are limited controls for editing video in stream. But you can upload edited videos to it. Obviously if you can create a video without needing edits it's a lot easier. You can create different channels in stream for different audiences.

It's ideal because the storage and bandwidth is handled by Microsoft. As is permission and access if everyone has Microsoft accounts.

We use it a lot.

mirrorwall14 · 10-01-2021 5:20pm

lulublue22 wrote: »

I thought it was similar to loom ? I used loom during the last lockdown ( free version ) but not all parents were able to access it .

I’ve started downloading from loom and just reupping the file to my google classroom to avoid those compatibility issues. It renders the video so the files are very small when they come down which is handy

mirrorwall14 · 10-01-2021 5:24pm

lulublue22 wrote: »

I thought it was similar to loom ? I used loom during the last lockdown ( free version ) but not all parents were able to access it .

I’ve started downloading from loom and just reupping the file to my google classroom to avoid those compatibility issues. It renders the video so the files are very small when they come down which is handy

solerina · 10-01-2021 7:08pm

Moody_mona wrote: »

I liked stream last year. I was recording solutions using the app and it saved them directly online. Then I added a Stream tab to my Teams pages and students could access them. I will use it again if I do prerecords this year.

Any advice on how to use stream. Seems like a good idea. I did voice overs on PowerPoint but the files were enormous and not all students could hear the audio.

wirelessdude01 · 10-01-2021 7:14pm

Do parents/students need to install loom inorder to view stuff created through it?

mirrorwall14 · 10-01-2021 7:30pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Do parents/students need to install loom inorder to view stuff created through it?

On iPads they may need the app. On desktops they don’t asfaik

That seems to have been a shift this year as some of mine on iPads couldn’t get access without an account. Thats why I started the download and reupload to classroom to get around it

am_zarathustra · 10-01-2021 8:27pm

solerina wrote: »

Any advice on how to use stream. Seems like a good idea. I did voice overs on PowerPoint but the files were enormous and not all students could hear the audio.

Set up a tab for videos on each Team and then a channel on the Stream App. I'm reusing ones I made last year even for this year and other staff are using them too.An intro to pythagoras could be suitable for a few classes. I find using the phone to record very handy and the kids liked how me writing and explaining on a whiteboard was like a class experience. I tried using other video software but the files were really large and cumbersome. I don't really see the need for massive amounts of editing either, anymore than I'd edit my class really

wirelessdude01 · 10-01-2021 9:32pm

Why don't google have the ability to create folders within folders on google classroom? Like have the ability have a master maths folder and then sub folders within. You'd have thought it was a basic functionality. My topics bar looks so crowded.

Bobtheman · 13-01-2021 7:03pm

Has anybody tried goggle meets? Are the majority of you sticking to timetable with video classes?

Smacruairi · 13-01-2021 7:05pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Has anybody tried goggle meets? Are the majority of you sticking to timetable with video classes?

Yeah, and to be honest, it's just easier. The quality of teaching and learning is less, especially compared to prerecorded videos, but they're easier to do and parents wanr them, and they keep kids in a routine so. That's it really.

mirrorwall14 · 13-01-2021 7:32pm

Bobtheman wrote: »

Has anybody tried goggle meets? Are the majority of you sticking to timetable with video classes?

I’m doing daily google meets with my maths classes this week. I’ll then survey at the weekend to see how they feel.

I’m keeping it very straightforward though. I’ve demo videos done up for the chapters anyways which are posted up.

Then the live class is just me demo’ing the concept and the students practising for 2nd year. For 5th year I’m asking them to watch the video beforehand then join the class for practise.

Once I set them going they turn their copies and calculators to the camera whenever they get stuck so it’s essentially live support. 2nd years no homework, 5th years yes homework

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