Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

Strazdas · 05-07-2019 3:43pm

blinding wrote: »

Amazing how no one in the Eu is Pushing them Out . The Eu must really need that £39 billion;):p;)

The £39 billion is to be paid in instalments over a period of ten years - the Leave voting public won't even be aware of this fact though, taking their cue from Farage and the Daily Telegraph instead

rob316 · 05-07-2019 3:43pm

They can't leave its just too complicated and the consequences are largely unknown. It's a nasty saga though and has shown again politicians are party before country, they don't care a damn only for themselves.
The fact they occupy a part of a country that will remaining in the EU has made the task virtually impossible.

This will be drawn out further after October and they will spend further time in economic and political purgatory.

blinding · 05-07-2019 3:46pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

WHy would they, up to this point, be pushed out the door? Nobody WANTS the UK to leave because of the damage it will do, not to mention the damage it will do to the UK.

This isn't the 1800's, things don't work that way anymore. Much as some of the British would like they did.

The Eu and Leo are trying to Play Hardball but are still unwilling to Push the Brits out . All Fur Coat and no Knickers .

How desperate are they for the £39 Billion ?

The Brits will be fine as I am sure the Eu will be , why can’t the Brits and the Eu be good neighbours . That would be the best Result for Ireland

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 3:46pm

rob316 wrote: »

They can't leave its just too complicated and the consequences are largely unknown. It's a nasty saga though and has shown again politicians are party before country, they don't care a damn only for themselves.

This will be drawn out further after October and they will spend further time in economic and political purgatory.

Compare and contrast to here. There is almost unanimity in the Dail on how Brexit is to be handled.
When the chips are down here, it is great to see that. Like most families, we might argue and fight like cats and dogs among ourselves but can operate as a united unit if there is a threat from outside.

kunst nugget · 05-07-2019 3:46pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Blinding claimed that Jeremy Hunt had made sure that the NHS had got the promised money. I'm just asking for proof. Quotes from a failed and former PM do not substantiate this. Maybe I should give it up and add it to the list of blinding's nonsense.

Yeah, there's nothing substantial to it at all - I was just providing some sources for the information. For Hunt to take any credit for anything in the NHS is laughable.

Here is a good overview of his actual time in charge of the NHS.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-hunt-conservative-party-nhs-prime-minister-junior-doctors-a8963141.html

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 3:48pm

blinding wrote: »

The Eu and Leo are trying to Play Hardball but are still unwilling to Push the Brits out . All Fur Coat and no Knickers .

How desperate are they for the £39 Billion ?

The Brits will be fine as I am sure the Eu will be , why can’t the Brits and the Eu be good neighbours . That would be the best Result for Ireland

Last I read the British had agrred to pay the divorce bill.

And Leo and the EU have no interest in pushing the British out. That would be irrational and counterproductive for everybody. Grown up politics in action.

rob316 · 05-07-2019 3:48pm

blinding wrote: »

The Eu and Leo are trying to Play Hardball but are still unwilling to Push the Brits out . All Fur Coat and no Knickers .

How desperate are they for the £39 Billion ?

The Brits will be fine as I am sure the Eu will be , why can’t the Brits and the Eu be good neighbours . That would be the best Result for Ireland

I'm fully of the opinion Brexit especially NO DEAL will be a disaster for Ireland, Varadkar will do everything to get the EU to extend further if needs be.

blinding · 05-07-2019 3:48pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Compare and contrast to here. There is almost unanimity in the Dail on how Brexit is to be handled.
When the chips are down here, it is great to see that. Like most families, we might argue and fight like cats and dogs among ourselves but can operate as a united unit if there is a threat from outside.

Didn’t Leo accuse Martin of fiddling behind the Alter or something:eek::eek::eek:

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 3:50pm

blinding wrote: »

Didn’t Leo accuse Martin of fiddling behind the Alter or something:eek::eek::eek:

Yes...didn't you read what I said...they might fight like cats and dogs among themselves and that spat was about internal affairs not external.

Try again.

blinding · 05-07-2019 3:50pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Last I read the British had agrred to pay the divorce bill.

And Leo and the EU have no interest in pushing the British out. That would be irrational and counterproductive for everybody. Grown up politics in action.

If the brits don’t get a deal acceptable to them they will pay fook all. Why would they . they are not Leo , Actually offering to pay more of Irish taxpayers money just to get his tummy tickled . That guy is an embarrassment !

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 3:51pm

rob316 wrote: »

I'm fully of the opinion Brexit especially NO DEAL will be a disaster for Ireland, Varadkar will do everything to get the EU to extend further if needs be.

It will be bad for us, but we have the mechanism to recover from it and will be stronger...membership of the EU.

blinding · 05-07-2019 3:52pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes...didn't you read what I said...they might fight like cats and dogs among themselves and that spat was about internal affairs not external.

Try again.

Jaysus , Martin will have to force an election if Leo gets dirty . Chicken Martin .

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 3:53pm

blinding wrote: »

If the brits don’t get a deal acceptable to them they will pay fook all. Why would they . they are not Leo , Actually offering to pay more of Irish taxpayers money just to get his tummy tickled . That guy is an embarrassment !

And destroy themselves on the world stage = a rogue country.

Don't you see that actions have consequences...try thinking beyond giving somebody a bloody nose. I.E. grow up a bit and think like an adult here.

blinding · 05-07-2019 3:54pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It will be bad for us, but we have the mechanism to recover from it and will be stronger...membership of the EU.

That deal on the Beef doesn’t look to good for Ireland . When the Brits leave the Eu Elites interest in ireland will wane . Leo may even have to tickle himself !:eek::eek::eek:

ancapailldorcha · 05-07-2019 3:55pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

Yeah, there's nothing substantial to it at all - I was just providing some sources for the information. For Hunt to take any credit for anything in the NHS is laughable.

Here is a good overview of his actual time in charge of the NHS.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-hunt-conservative-party-nhs-prime-minister-junior-doctors-a8963141.html

Ah yeah. No worries. I'd actually no idea that Theresa had made that pledge. I don't think it would have been viable even if she were still PM.

rob316 · 05-07-2019 3:56pm

This whole kick the brits stick is wearing thin lads, hold your hate for England for the good of our economy please.
Nearly half of who voted realized the whole thing was a braindead idea, they are who I feel sorry for been led off a cliff by Farage and the brainwashed masses.

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 3:57pm

blinding wrote: »

That deal on the Beef doesn’t look to good for Ireland . When the Brits leave the Eu Elites interest in ireland will wane . Leo may even have to tickle himself !:eek::eek::eek:

It has never been any different in any trade deal that has been done and there have been many. Swings and roundabouts.

It is only the British that seem to think that trade deals have to be stuffed full of unicorns for their side only. Too used to invade and plunder most likely.

kunst nugget · 05-07-2019 3:57pm

blinding wrote: »

If the brits don’t get a deal acceptable to them they will pay fook all. Why would they . they are not Leo , Actually offering to pay more of Irish taxpayers money just to get his tummy tickled . That guy is an embarrassment !

If the UK renege on the divorce bill, their credit ratings will be shot to shyte meaning the cost of borrowing money to keep the country running will increase dramatically. On top of that, they would be locked out of any trading relationship with the EU until it is resolved. It would be a stupendously dim-witted move.

Strazdas · 05-07-2019 3:59pm

rob316 wrote: »

This whole kick the brits stick is wearing thin lads, hold your hate for England for the good of our economy please.
Nearly half of who voted realized the whole thing was a braindead idea, they are who I feel sorry for been led off a cliff by Farage and the brainwashed masses.

I think it's obvious the British (English) hard right, far right are the ones under discussion here.

Nobody associates Dominic Grieve, Anna Soubry, John Major, Ken Clarke, Vince Cable etc with Brexit.

meeeeh · 05-07-2019 4:01pm

blinding wrote: »

If the brits don’t get a deal acceptable to them they will pay fook all. Why would they . they are not Leo , Actually offering to pay more of Irish taxpayers money just to get his tummy tickled . That guy is an embarrassment !

They will pay whatever the bill is be a they are locked into paying that to keep ongoing projects running, cover the pensions and cost of work of their diplomats in EU. If Britain doesn't pay the settlement can they stop paying Nidge whatever he is supposed to get for his longstanding service to Britain in European Parliament.

Also do you really think EU will say we can do whatever trade you want even if you pay nothing. Yeah that will work.

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 4:01pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

If the UK renege on the divorce bill, their credit ratings will be shot to shyte meaning the cost of borrowing money to keep the country running will increase dramatically. On top of that, they would be locked out of any trading relationship with the EU until it is resolved. It would be a stupendously dim-witted move.

Absolutely, which is why they have actually said they will pay it.

They had to go to the IMF recently enough, so they will know what would happen if they went back not having honoured their commitments.

meeeeh · 05-07-2019 4:04pm

rob316 wrote: »

This whole kick the brits stick is wearing thin lads, hold your hate for England for the good of our economy please.
Nearly half of who voted realized the whole thing was a braindead idea, they are who I feel sorry for been led off a cliff by Farage and the brainwashed masses.

Unfortunately that's the fringe that has all the power at the moment.

blinding · 05-07-2019 4:06pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

If the UK renege on the divorce bill, their credit ratings will be shot to shyte meaning the cost of borrowing money to keep the country running will increase dramatically. On top of that, they would be locked out of any trading relationship with the EU until it is resolved. It would be a stupendously dim-witted move.

How long will Leo survive as Taoiseach if the Brits decide to play hardball with the 26 Counties . If suddenly all the staff on the West of Britain Ports are needed in the South of England (and East side of Britain )

If the Brits really wanted to they could have Leo sliding up that Bannister at number 10 Downing Street .

The Eu did not make much of an effort on Catalonia . They actually fooked the Scots on Scotland membership of the Eu in the Scottish Independence Referendum . Lets see how it plays out but little beasts tend to get trampled on when big beasts have a rumble .

One thing for sure is Leo Varakar is not up to much .

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 4:08pm

meeeeh wrote: »

Unfortunately that's the fringe that has all the power at the moment.

They have as much power as I have.

The problem in the UK is paralysis. Brexit has exposed the fault lines in the Union. There are cracks running right through it, from Scotland, through NI, to the South of Engalnd and back to the Northeast.

Nobody has the power to move it out of this paralysis and I think they never will, the cracks will widen until it breaks apart.

Strazdas · 05-07-2019 4:10pm

meeeeh wrote: »

Unfortunately that's the fringe that has all the power at the moment.

Yes, they are speaking with great authority as if they are the UK (witness Widdecombe's "We're off!" yesterday.......by "we" she means everyone in the UK).

kunst nugget · 05-07-2019 4:13pm

blinding wrote: »

How long will Leo survive as Taoiseach if the Brits decide to play hardball with the 26 Counties . If suddenly all the staff on the West of Britain Ports are needed in the South of England (and East side of Britain )

If the Brits really wanted to they could have Leo sliding up that Bannister at number 10 Downing Street .

The Eu did not make much of an effort on Catalonia . They actually fooked the Scots on Scotland membership of the Eu in the Scottish Independence Referendum . Lets see how it plays out but little beasts tend to get trampled on when big beasts have a rumble .

One thing for sure is Leo Varakar is not up to much .

I have no idea what this reply has to do with what I've said... So if they start to do what you describe, it'll have a terrible effect on us but what has that got to do with Leo Varadkar? If they've declined to pay the divorce bill, we won't actually have any trading relationship with them at that point so it is kind of a moot point - it would just add catastrophic damage to their diplomatic relations on top of the fact that they've already shot themselves in the head financially. At least we'll still be able to trade with the EU which is far more important to us even if it is going to cost us more shipping to France, Spain and the Netherlands.

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 4:17pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

I have no idea what this replay has to do with what I've said... So if they start to do what you describe, it'll have a terrible effect on us but what has that got to do with Leo Varadkar? If they've declined to pay the divorce bill, we won't actually have any trading relationship with them at that point so it is kind of a moot point - it would just act catastrophic damage to their diplomatic relations on top of the fact that they've already shot themselves in the head financially. At least we'll still be able to trade with the EU which is far more important to us even if it is going to cost us more shipping to France, Spain and the Netherlands.

The British might see their flotillas of Dunkirk surpassed as the rest of the EU send ships for our exports.

It would be an act by Britain that would be seen as an invasion of sorts, they'd be diplomatically destroyed and shunned.
And they won't do it.

rob316 · 05-07-2019 4:19pm

The democratic process would be going back to the electorate for a new referendum and showing them the reality of the bare faced lies you were told.

The average voter wouldn't have even known what a trade deal was before the last referendum.

Leavers going around screaming about free trade deals. Are you really that stupid that you think you would get a preferential trade deal over the much larger European Bloc?

blinding · 05-07-2019 4:24pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

I have no idea what this replay has to do with what I've said... So if they start to do what you describe, it'll have a terrible effect on us but what has that got to do with Leo Varadkar? If they've declined to pay the divorce bill, we won't actually have any trading relationship with them at that point so it is kind of a moot point - it would just add catastrophic damage to their diplomatic relations on top of the fact that they've already shot themselves in the head financially. At least we'll still be able to trade with the EU which is far more important to us even if it is going to cost us more shipping to France, Spain and the Netherlands.

How long would it take to get these long distance ferries set Up ? How long would they take ?

What about stuff that needs to get there quick . What about Lorries that do drop offs , part drop offs in Britain and the same on the way back . Now perhaps the Eu can buckle Britain if it wants to but there is absolutely no doubt that Britain can buckle the 26 Counties if it so please's .

blinding · 05-07-2019 4:26pm

rob316 wrote: »

The democratic process would be going back to the electorate for a new referendum and showing them the reality of the bare faced lies you were told.

The average voter wouldn't have even known what a trade deal was before the last referendum.

Leavers going around screaming about free trade deals. Are you really that stupid that you think you would get a preferential trade deal over the much larger European Bloc?

There will be no second referendum before a General Election , Nor should there be .

B0jangles · 05-07-2019 4:30pm

Apparently the EU/Mercosur deal that's just been signed took two decades to complete.

One deal : Two Decades

In the event of a no deal Brexit, doesn't Britain have to negotiate deals of similar complexity with dozens of countries and trading blocs?

Personally I feel really bad for the people of Britain who are being unwillingly dragged into this chaos, I despair of those who still cling to the lies and I am furious with the people in power who keep on telling lies because they know that they won't be the ones to suffer if and when it happens.

All sold on a windy fantasy of 'Taking Back Control' and 'National Pride'.

blinding · 05-07-2019 4:31pm

B0jangles wrote: »

Apparently the EU/Mercosur deal that's just been signed took two decades to complete.

One deal : Two Decades

In the event of a no deal Brexit, doesn't Britain have to negotiate deals of similar complexity with dozens of countries and trading blocs?

Personally I feel really bad for the people of Britain who are being unwillingly dragged into this chaos, I despair of those who still cling to the lies and I am furious with the people in power who keep on telling lies because they know that they won't be the ones to suffer if and when it happens.

They will be negotiating for One country not 28

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 4:31pm

blinding wrote: »

How long would it take to get these long distance ferries set Up ? How long would they take ?

What about stuff that needs to get there quick . What about Lorries that do drop offs , part drop offs in Britain and the same on the way back . Now perhaps the Eu can buckle Britain if it wants to but there is absolutely no doubt that Britain can buckle the 26 Counties if it so pleased .

Stop the imperialist British wet dreaming blinding. It isn't going to happen, the world has changed if you hadn't noticed in the last 3 years.

rob316 · 05-07-2019 4:31pm

B0jangles wrote: »

Apparently the EU/Mercosur deal that's just been signed took two decades to complete.

One deal : Two Decades

In the event of a no deal Brexit, doesn't Britain have to negotiate deals of similar complexity with dozens of countries and trading blocs?

Personally I feel really bad for the people of Britain who are being unwillingly dragged into this chaos, I despair of those who still cling to the lies and I am furious with the people in power who keep on telling lies because they know that they won't be the ones to suffer if and when it happens.

All sold on a windy fantasy of 'Taking Back Control' and 'National Pride'.

Correct, trade deals take years to negotiate.

kunst nugget · 05-07-2019 4:32pm

blinding wrote: »

How long would it take to get these long distance ferries set Up ? How long would they take ?

What about stuff that needs to get there quick . What about Lorries that do drop offs , part drop offs in Britain and the same on the way back . Now perhaps the Eu can buckle Britain if it wants to but there is absolutely no doubt that Britain can buckle the 26 Counties if it so pleased .

I genuinely don't understand the points you're trying to make here. Can the UK act the prick with the Republic of Ireland - I don't know if you're insisting on calling it the 26 Counties because you're a Unionist or what - undoubtedly it can and it could cause massive problems for us. We're at the coalface of something we had no hand, act or part in? What do you think that would achieve beyond decimating its reputation internationally?

B0jangles · 05-07-2019 4:32pm

blinding wrote: »

They will be negotiating for One country not 28

And how many countries will they be negotiating with?

How many experienced trade negotiators does Britain have?

lawred2 · 05-07-2019 4:36pm

B0jangles wrote: »

And how many countries will they be negotiating with?

How many experienced trade negotiators does Britain have?

It's ok - he used a wink smiley. That's a QED for a Brexit fanboy.

blinding · 05-07-2019 4:36pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Stop the imperialist British wet dreaming blinding. It isn't going to happen, the world has changed if you hadn't noticed in the last 3 years.

The Geography of the 26 Counties vis a vie the Uk has changed has it :eek::eek::eek:

Jaysus but the Eu must be powerful . Lets say that British decide that they needed all the port staff on the East side of Britain what is the 26 Counties going to do ; Invade Britain .

Just because the Eu has been tickling Leo’s belly may mean fook all . Ask the Catalonians , Ask the Scots re; their Independence Referendum .

blinding · 05-07-2019 4:42pm

B0jangles wrote: »

And how many countries will they be negotiating with?

How many experienced trade negotiators does Britain have?

The Brits are not nearly as daft as you think . They were not stupid enough to Join the Euro and are delighted that they did not join the Euro . Even your Rabid Eu-ers in Britain never now mention that they were all in favour of joining the Euro . You’d think they were never in favour of it now . Funnily enough these Gobdaws that were in favour of joining the Euro are the same Gobdaw Re-Mainiacs now .

The Brits are buying time for Brexit . How come Leo and Company don’t push them out ? Didn’t Macron do some mouthing but ran away and hid from the yellow vests instead .:D

storker · 05-07-2019 4:43pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

I don't know if you're insisting on calling it the 26 Counties because you're a Unionist or what

Having followed thus discussion for a while, I've come to the conclusion that it's for the same reason he keeps trotting out the word "lapdog"; his posts are much less about making a serious argument (as if!) in favour of the case for Brexit, or that the EU is fundamentally undemocratic, than they are about winding up his interlocutors. It's the debating equivalent of a twelve-year-old opening his mouth and showing off his chewed food. It's all about the reaction.

Lest I incur the mods' wrath for shouting "Troll!" (which I don't tend to do), I would stress that I'm not claiming this as a fact, just my own conclusion; a conclusion that has been honestly arrived at and which seems to me to be unavoidable.

Seathrun66 · 05-07-2019 4:43pm

blinding wrote: »

The Geography of the 26 Counties vis a vie the Uk has changed has it :eek::eek::eek:

Jaysus but the Eu must be powerful . Lets say that British decide that they needed all the port staff on the East side of Britain what is the 26 Counties going to do ; Invade Britain .

Just because the Eu has been tickling Leo’s belly may mean fook all . Ask the Catalonians , Ask the Scots re; their Independence Referendum .

I've just joined the discussion. Can somebody please interpret the above garbage for me?

kunst nugget · 05-07-2019 4:44pm

Seathrun66 wrote: »

I've just joined the discussion. Can somebody please interpret the above garbage for me?

Sigh, don't even bother...

storker · 05-07-2019 4:46pm

Seathrun66 wrote: »

I've just joined the discussion. Can somebody please interpret the above garbage for me?

Allow me...(clears throat)....

"Brexit Rocks! EU Sucks!"

You're welcome.

KildareP · 05-07-2019 4:46pm

blinding wrote: »

How long would it take to get these long distance ferries set Up ? How long would they take ?

What about stuff that needs to get there quick . What about Lorries that do drop offs , part drop offs in Britain and the same on the way back . Now perhaps the Eu can buckle Britain if it wants to but there is absolutely no doubt that Britain can buckle the 26 Counties if it so please's .

Ferries already available and the routes tried and tested.

Supply chains already being changed, eg a lot of our computer equipment in work has come in from/through the UK, we bought a batch of PCs recently that came in from Germany through Cork. Price increase was marginal. Only downside was we were waiting a week where ordinarily we'd have it in 2-3 days. Once UK is routed out I expect the delays will go down as everything starts to come from mainland Europe.

blinding · 05-07-2019 4:46pm

kunst nugget wrote: »

I genuinely don't understand the points you're trying to make here. Can the UK act the prick with the Republic of Ireland - I don't know if you're insisting on calling it the 26 Counties because you're a Unionist or what - undoubtedly it can and it could cause massive problems for us. We're at the coalface of something we had no hand, act or part in? What do you think that would achieve beyond decimating its reputation internationally?

Surely a Unionist would call it the Republic / South of Ireland .

An Irish Republican would call it the 26 Counties because its Only 26 Counties of Ireland .

FrancieBrady · 05-07-2019 4:48pm

blinding wrote: »

The Geography of the 26 Counties vis a vie the Uk has changed has it :eek::eek::eek:

Jaysus but the Eu must be powerful . Lets say that British decide that they needed all the port staff on the East side of Britain what is the 26 Counties going to do ; Invade Britain .

Just because the Eu has been tickling Leo’s belly may mean fook all . Ask the Catalonians , Ask the Scots re; their Independence Referendum .

Dear me. You really do think we are still in Rule Britania days don't you?

They could have ignored the GFA too but they didnt. Why? Because they know there would be a price.

They could always invade and depose the government too you know, solve all their problems or at least those problems the loony Brexiters like yourself think can be solved that way.
Again grow up and join the real world

Seathrun66 · 05-07-2019 4:49pm

KildareP wrote: »

Ferries already available and the routes tried and tested.

Supply chains already being changed, eg a lot of our computer equipment in work has come in from/through the UK, we bought a batch of PCs recently that came in from Germany through Cork. Price increase was marginal. Only downside was we were waiting a week where ordinarily we'd have it in 2-3 days. Once UK is routed out I expect the delays will go down as everything starts to come from mainland Europe.

And the potential of a future route via an independent Scotland with EU membership. The Spanish government and others previously opposed are now saying they'd welcome Scotland back into the EU.

KildareP · 05-07-2019 4:51pm

blinding wrote: »

The Brits are not nearly as daft as you think . They were not stupid enough to Join the Euro and are delighted that they did not join the Euro . Even your Rabid Eu-ers in Britain never now mention that they were all in favour of joining the Euro . You’d think they were never in favour of it now . Funnily enough these Gobdaws that were in favour of joining the Euro are the same Gobdaw Re-Mainiacs now .

The Brits are buying time for Brexit . How come Leo and Company don’t push them out ? Didn’t Macron do some mouthing but ran away and hid from the yellow vests instead .:D

The EU can't "push out" the UK.
The UK can request an extension and the EU can grant it.
But it can't push the UK out (nor can it keep the UK in, if the UK do nothing between now and October 31st then it automatically crashes out).
Make no mistake, the extensions are as much to benefit the EU as any perceived UK benefit. Remember - no deal prep did not stop in the EU despite the UK doing so.

Once the balance tips where it is no longer beneficial for the EU to grant extensions, it won't. The perception seems to be that time is near and should the UK seek another extension come October, it will be declined.

blinding · 05-07-2019 4:51pm

KildareP wrote: »

Ferries already available and the routes tried and tested.

Supply chains already being changed, eg a lot of our computer equipment in work has come in from/through the UK, we bought a batch of PCs recently that came in from Germany through Cork. Price increase was marginal. Only downside was we were waiting a week where ordinarily we'd have it in 2-3 days. Once UK is routed out I expect the delays will go down as everything starts to come from mainland Europe.

Nonsense . Didn’t they close some port in Wexford recently . If you think you can magic up this capacity ‘just like that ‘ then you are fooling yourself .

What about drop offs in Britain and the drop offs / collections on the way back from Europe . I am not saying the Brits will do it but they could by Geography Buckle the 26 Counties .

How long will it take these ferries from Ireland to Europe . Don’t even mention the Weather :eek::eek::eek:

rob316 · 05-07-2019 4:51pm

blinding wrote: »

There will be no second referendum before a General Election , Nor should there be .

Why not? The British public who voted to leave can see they were sold a pup, I for one would like the opportunity to rectify that.

Been subjected to nazi party levels of propaganda isn't democratic. Free speech sure but flat out lies is exactly that, propaganda.

Will Britain ever just piss off and get on with Brexit? -mod warning in OP (21/12)

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