Signs that you're getting old

Leg End Reject · 25-04-2021 11:37pm

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Graces7 , in all honesty , how on earth would you expect a four year old child to take on their grandparent , and prevent him from doing what he did ?
Unrealistic expectation imo .

Especially when old enough to realise attitudes have changed drastically over the years.

For me it body parts drooping centimetre by centimetre, the pillow lines taking longer to leave your face in the morning, or worse still, some becoming a permanent feature.

I still have menopause to look forward to, so there's that I suppose.

appledrop · 25-04-2021 11:58pm

Pandiculation, that's really doesn't sound right.

My parents wouldn't have as much pain as that even though they both have some arthritis now.

If it was me I'd be hounding the doctor until I got an MRI scan. Do you have private health insurance?

I know people can have bad backs, joint pains etc but usually a diagnosis of why that is.

Mam of 4 · 26-04-2021 12:06am

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Especially when old enough to realise attitudes have changed drastically over the years.

For me it body parts drooping centimetre by centimetre, the pillow lines taking longer to leave your face in the morning, or worse still, some becoming a permanent feature.

I still have menopause to look forward to, so there's that I suppose.

Menopause is fun , your own built in heating system , although regulating the thermostat is a different story

dd973 · 26-04-2021 12:08am

Phil Foden. 28/05/2000 :eek:

26-04-2021 7:28am

You remember going to the Matrix in the late 1900s.

JimmyVik · 26-04-2021 8:36am

Every every couple of years after the age of about 45 brings a new pain somewhere that just stays forever.
Before that you think doctors can give you drugs to cure all these things.
Then you find out after going to doctors and consultants that that pain in the knee is there forever and you will just have to get used to it.
So you deal with it. Then a few years later it happens again, this time in the shoulder. Now you have 2 to deal with that are there forever.
Then you speak to people in their 60s hoping they say it gets easier as you get older and they just smile and say - welcome to the club

Leg End Reject · 26-04-2021 9:23am

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Menopause is fun , your own built in heating system , although regulating the thermostat is a different story

I'll get a plumber to check my pipes. :pac:

EddieN75 · 26-04-2021 9:27am

JimmyVik wrote: »

Every every couple of years after the age of about 45 brings a new pain somewhere that just stays forever.
Before that you think doctors can give you drugs to cure all these things.
Then you find out after going to doctors and consultants that that pain in the knee is there forever and you will just have to get used to it.
So you deal with it. Then a few years later it happens again, this time in the shoulder. Now you have 2 to deal with that are there forever.
Then you speak to people in their 60s hoping they say it gets easier as you get older and they just smile and say - welcome to the club

I have this in my early 30s. I'm down to one limb that isn't chronically hurting. It's my favourite.

Purgative · 26-04-2021 9:48am

When you look at a group photo and then slowly realise that you're the only one in it still alive.

Sense of humour probably sailed away on that one

26-04-2021 10:25am

When you put your false teeth down at night and you wake up the next morning and can't remember where you left them and you don't worry about it too much because life goes on and eventually you don't even notice they're gone and you forget you lost them but you're opening a tin of peaches a few years later and as you're pouring the contents of the tin into the colander to drain off the syrup and lo and behold there is your false teeth dripping in peach juice.

CelticRambler · 26-04-2021 10:53am

Pandiculation wrote: »

My back has gone weird on occasion to the point I couldn’t walk when I was away on a business trip. I went to a doc there and it was just put down to a strain or bulging disk and they just sent me away with anti inflammatoires which worked, to a degree and it went away.

It was very freaky as I couldn’t get around anywhere and barely made it home.

I kinda forgot about it for months then and I just got another bout of it now over the last few weeks. It’s going on for years though.

I’ve had my back “go out” in my 20s a few rimes, to the point that I wouldn’t be able to get off the floor, but it will ease itself out, but I would end up being unable to even tie my shoelaces.
...

The lockdown has probably made that worse, but I think age is definitely adding to it.

Had almost exactly the same thing, starting at the end of my 20s/early 30s. Very occasional, and no particular pattern, so didn't do anything about it. Through my 40s, I'd get it more frequently, and it'd last a few days - unless it happened on a Friday or Saturday and I could go dancing, in which case the problem would disappear once I'd put in a couple of hours on the dancefloor!

Finally went to the doc a few years ago (now 50s), when I woke up with desperate pains in my legs after a the previous day's labouring in the cold. Turned out to be several discs, all knackered. Nothing to do with being sedentary, probably genetic as my dad always complained about his bad back (which would have been when he was in his early 40s too).

It's definitely been worse this past year, but I think that's because I'm doing more of the "hard" physical activity and getting none of the therapeutic effects of dancing.

Pandiculation · 26-04-2021 11:13am

appledrop wrote: »

Pandiculation, that's really doesn't sound right.

My parents wouldn't have as much pain as that even though they both have some arthritis now.

If it was me I'd be hounding the doctor until I got an MRI scan. Do you have private health insurance?

I know people can have bad backs, joint pains etc but usually a diagnosis of why that is.

I’ll look into it again but I’m just finding it’s brushed off. Other than the odd bad back issue it’s usually just snaps and a bit of stiffness and pain.

I’m fairly in shape and not over weight and have a fairly ideal diet, but I think people always just assume I’m lazy because I don’t tend to be enthusiastic about sport, hiking, etc etc

My GP keeps telling me to do more exercise when I’ve gone with these issues and I just can’t. It really hurts and I’ve just sort of assumed that’s how it is as you get into your 30s+ & that I’m just not “pushing past it”

I’ll check it out but I’m likely going to hang on until I’m vaccinated before I rush into anything involving hospitals.

razorblunt · 26-04-2021 11:21am

Pandiculation wrote: »

I’ll look into it again but I’m just finding it’s brushed off. Other than the odd bad back issue it’s usually just snaps and a bit of stiffness and pain.

I’m fairly in shape and not over weight and have a fairly ideal diet, but I think people always just assume I’m lazy because I don’t tend to be enthusiastic about sport, hiking, etc etc

My GP keeps telling me to do more exercise when I’ve gone with these issues and I just can’t. It really hurts and I’ve just sort of assumed that’s how it is as you get into your 30s+ & that I’m just not “pushing past it”

I’ll check it out but I’m likely going to hang on until I’m vaccinated before I rush into anything involving hospitals.

Skip the GP or ask for a referral to a physio. Look around for one that might be specialist in back areas.

I put my back out last summer doing a home workout during lockdown. Very weird symptoms, like nothing I had done before, didn't feel like a muscle strain, no real pain after the initial surge. GP advised 3 weeks of rest.

Back before Xmas i noticed my gym work was mostly unaffected except I couldn't run for 5 mins on a treadmill without getting lower back pain.
Fast forward to February just gone and it went again, this time it locked up, spasms, thought I might haves slipped a disc. Different GP immediately prescribed pain relief and muscle relaxers and said "I'm not even going to look at this, I'll refer you to a physio".

Physio diagnosed it in 10 mins, not only that but advised of other issues I'd probably get as the issue eases out but gave me steps to tackle those as they arise. 8/9 weeks on and I'm almost over it now.

Definitely, definitely get it looked at properly.

Hyperbollix · 26-04-2021 11:33am

Pandiculation wrote: »

I’ll look into it again but I’m just finding it’s brushed off. Other than the odd bad back issue it’s usually just snaps and a bit of stiffness and pain.

I’m fairly in shape and not over weight and have a fairly ideal diet, but I think people always just assume I’m lazy because I don’t tend to be enthusiastic about sport, hiking, etc etc

My GP keeps telling me to do more exercise when I’ve gone with these issues and I just can’t. It really hurts and I’ve just sort of assumed that’s how it is as you get into your 30s+ & that I’m just not “pushing past it”

I’ll check it out but I’m likely going to hang on until I’m vaccinated before I rush into anything involving hospitals.

There's a good chance it is just a sedentary lifestyle. It seems to me some people are lucky in that they can have a sitting job and be averse to sports/active lifestyle and sail away grand into late middle age. Others start to feel the aches and pains in their mid 30s.

I played a lot of sport in my teens and early 20s and then after college gained a couple of stone from a sedentary job and no longer participating. Didn't make any difference til I got to about 35 when I developed a nagging hip ache which meant sitting for long periods/driving etc became a nightmare. I also "put my back out" a couple of times in a 6 month spell, which had me laying in bed for a couple of days at a time.

GP put it down to stretching/exercise, so I went to a physio who did an analysis of my ability to do certain movements/poses and it turned out my low back muscles were weak and tight, as were my hips, hip flexors, hamstrings, practically everything from the bellybutton down was short, weak and tight from 15 odd years off sitting on my hole for way too many hours a day.

From lots of research and checking with the physio, the problem often isn't the back itself (I never injured it from heavy manual work) it's just the muscles around the hip area are tight from inactivity and are pulling on the low back region where they originate from.

Long story short, if it isn't anything major and GP/Physio gives you the same assessment, you are at the start of a long road of slowly building back up your flexibility and strength in the weak areas. I started with this in 2019 and while I still don't feel as good as I did when I was 25, I am a hell of a lot better than 2 years ago. I can sit again, although try not to anymore, and driving isn't as issue. Plus the general aches and pains of hitting 40 are lessening now, not increasing.

Hope this was some help.

JimmyVik · 26-04-2021 11:47am

Hyperbollix wrote: »

There's a good chance it is just a sedentary lifestyle. It seems to me some people are lucky in that they can have a sitting job and be averse to sports/active lifestyle and sail away grand into late middle age. Others start to feel the aches and pains in their mid 30s.

I played a lot of sport in my teens and early 20s and then after college gained a couple of stone from a sedentary job and no longer participating. Didn't make any difference til I got to about 35 when I developed a nagging hip ache which meant sitting for long periods/driving etc became a nightmare. I also "put my back out" a couple of times in a 6 month spell, which had me laying in bed for a couple of days at a time.

GP put it down to stretching/exercise, so I went to a physio who did an analysis of my ability to do certain movements/poses and it turned out my low back muscles were weak and tight, as were my hips, hip flexors, hamstrings, practically everything from the bellybutton down was short, weak and tight from 15 odd years off sitting on my hole for way too many hours a day.

From lots of research and checking with the physio, the problem often isn't the back itself (I never injured it from heavy manual work) it's just the muscles around the hip area are tight from inactivity and are pulling on the low back region where they originate from.

Long story short, if it isn't anything major and GP/Physio gives you the same assessment, you are at the start of a long road of slowly building back up your flexibility and strength in the weak areas. I started with this in 2019 and while I still don't feel as good as I did when I was 25, I am a hell of a lot better than 2 years ago. I can sit again, although try not to anymore, and driving isn't as issue. Plus the general aches and pains of hitting 40 are lessening now, not increasing.

Hope this was some help.

Thats what I thought. Until 45.
I felt way better 40 - 45 than even in my 30s.

Then one day a little bit of an ache, and it progresses fast, then an ache somewhere else. .....

After 45 those same people who advised you to exercise will tell you its due to the damage you did playing sports in your 20s and this time the joints and discs are worn out. Now they tell you to exercise, but dont overdo it

Now its a slippery slope of pain management, which is not as good as you thought it would be before you tried it, until you get to a point where a joint replacement makes sense (Im not there yet

EddieN75 · 26-04-2021 12:02pm

JimmyVik wrote: »

Thats what I thought. Until 45.
I felt way better 40 - 45 than even in my 30s.

Then one day a little bit of an ache, and it progresses fast, then an ache somewhere else. .....

After 45 those same people who advised you to exercise will tell you its due to the damage you did playing sports in your 20s and this time the joints and discs are worn out. Now they tell you to exercise, but dont overdo it

Now its a slippery slope of pain management, which is not as good as you thought it would be before you tried it, until you get to a point where a joint replacement makes sense (Im not there yet

I get horrendous nerve pain down my leg from time to time. OTC medication doesn't touch it. Perception medication messes with my head and stomach. Thc is the only thing that settles it back down again and allows me to sleep and get on with work the next day.

If I'm tested at a checkpoint I lose my job and liscence. Imagine what that will do to my head.

Pharmaceuticals are not always the answer

Pandiculation · 26-04-2021 12:21pm

JimmyVik wrote: »

Thats what I thought. Until 45.
I felt way better 40 - 45 than even in my 30s.

Then one day a little bit of an ache, and it progresses fast, then an ache somewhere else. .....

After 45 those same people who advised you to exercise will tell you its due to the damage you did playing sports in your 20s and this time the joints and discs are worn out. Now they tell you to exercise, but dont overdo it

Now its a slippery slope of pain management, which is not as good as you thought it would be before you tried it, until you get to a point where a joint replacement makes sense (Im not there yet

That’s what worries me. My mother was very active and fit and went downhill rapidly in her 50s with osteoarthritis in both knees. She had been into athletics in her 20s and 30s and was very fit in her 40s. By her 60s she was using crutches and looking into joint replacement, which she was postponing to get maximum use out of it & also holding off for the best technology and techniques. Unfortunately passed away due to a heart issue that caused a massive stroke before she ever got around to getting the knees done.

It’s just reminding me of exactly the kind of stuff she was experiencing at roughly the same age. Also I’ve some similar heart issues. She had some odd ones that weren't properly diagnosed until her 60s despite several cardiac checks over the years, it was always just put down to coffee, stress, thyroid etc. Turned out it was an unusual heart valve and electrical issue.

Finding I’m getting the same response on that too. Even got told I must be having panic attacks when I had arrhythmia they could not explain. I remember when she went in saying that she couldn’t walk 100m without being out of energy, a GP told her she had depression!!

I’m going to have to get a different GP. Getting a bit fed up being fobbed off. I go to the guy about once every 2 years and I come out feeling like a hypochondriac.

JimmyVik · 26-04-2021 2:44pm

Pandiculation wrote: »

That’s what worries me. My mother was very active and fit and went downhill rapidly in her 50s with osteoarthritis in both knees. She had been into athletics in her 20s and 30s and was very fit in her 40s. By her 60s she was using crutches and looking into joint replacement, which she was postponing to get maximum use out of it & also holding off for the best technology and techniques. Unfortunately passed away due to a heart issue that caused a massive stroke before she ever got around to getting the knees done.

It’s just reminding me of exactly the kind of stuff she was experiencing at roughly the same age. Also I’ve some similar heart issues. She had some odd ones that weren't properly diagnosed until her 60s despite several cardiac checks over the years, it was always just put down to coffee, stress, thyroid etc. Turned out it was an unusual heart valve and electrical issue.

Finding I’m getting the same response on that too. Even got told I must be having panic attacks when I had arrhythmia they could not explain. I remember when she went in saying that she couldn’t walk 100m without being out of energy, a GP told her she had depression!!

I’m going to have to get a different GP. Getting a bit fed up being fobbed off. I go to the guy about once every 2 years and I come out feeling like a hypochondriac.

If you are worried you can go in and get the old ticker checked out yourself if you pay for it. I think its about €400. They do an echo and a scan of your heart.

Its in the blackrock clinic if i remember correctly.
Just ask your doc to refer you to it.
If your current gp is making you feel that way, then go to another one.

ablelocks · 26-04-2021 3:10pm

we're back training tonight, but i just realised that this year, I am 3 times older than the 16 year old boys/girls that i coach in hurling and camogie...

Hyperbollix · 26-04-2021 3:45pm

You can't overstate the importance of a good GP who is paying attention and reading between the lines.

My Dad died of an issue that was a slow burner, undetected for 3/4 years and only found out in his final year when he specifically asked for a referral to a specialist. The GP was just doling out tablets and never copped it.

If the GP is a waste of time, change to a new one.

ablelocks · 26-04-2021 3:45pm

when you see a thread for €4 t-shirts in bargain alerts and think huh, it's a long while since i bought t-shirts from qwertee or threadless so you visit the site and then realise that you're no longer in your 30's and t-shirts with a funky astronaut or any graphic really just aren't for you anymore

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afatbollix · 26-04-2021 3:52pm

When they have opened the vaccination booking tool for your "age group"!!!

Sardonicat · 26-04-2021 4:09pm

ablelocks wrote: »

when you see a thread for €4 t-shirts in bargain alerts and think huh, it's a long while since i bought t-shirts from qwertee or threadless so you visit the site and then realise that you're no longer in your 30's and t-shirts with a funky astronaut or any graphic really just aren't for you anymore

Nonsense. Wear what you want to wear.

Pandiculation · 26-04-2021 4:20pm

Hyperbollix wrote: »

If the GP is a waste of time, change to a new one.

I’ve actually setup with a new one. So I might drop while this knee is still doing its thing.

jester77 · 26-04-2021 4:38pm

I was just reading an article on the BBC about a VHS tape and it contained this

... to rent the VHS - a black plastic box with spooling tape in it for those who have moved on -

Pandiculation · 26-04-2021 4:45pm

I had to explain what a cardphone was to one of my cousins and he took a few minutes to understand why anyone would want to use a shared public phone with a smart card.

He was floored when I explained that I didn’t have a mobile until about 2003 and couldn’t understand how anyone functioned.

He’s seen pay phones but assumed they were “in the 50s”

jester77 · 26-04-2021 4:50pm

Pandiculation wrote: »

I had to explain what a cardphone was to one of my cousins and he took a few minutes to understand why anyone would want to use a shared public phone with a smart card.

He was floored when I explained that I didn’t have a mobile until about 2003 and couldn’t understand how anyone functioned.

He’s seen pay phones but assumed they were “in the 50s”

My son got a Fire station set as a present and there was a phone in it with a cable. I had to explain to him why it had a cable!

Halenvaneddie · 26-04-2021 4:51pm

Giving out to kids for doing the same stupid **** we did ourselves

Pandiculation · 26-04-2021 5:09pm

jester77 wrote: »

My son got a Fire station set as a present and there was a phone in it with a cable. I had to explain to him why it had a cable!

One of my other cousins couldn’t use a dial phone. She pressed the numbers and tried tapping the hook frantically saying “operator” as that’s what she saw on an old movie.

Archeron · 26-04-2021 6:31pm

I yelled angrily at clouds when I paid 1.50 for a bag of tayto crisps in a petrol station.
Back in my day 1.50 was a giant almond mars bar and a supercan of cherry coke money.

Signs that you're getting old

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