What are your thoughts on the Ian Wright/Patrick O'Brien situation?

Rodin · 14-05-2020 10:47am

The account only posted 2 messages before it went private and those were the racist messages.

I doubt it was hacked.

dan1895 · 14-05-2020 11:39am

Who would hack it as he is supposed to be staying away from other people due to social distancing? Who would pick up someone else's phone in these current circumstances? His bs excuse doesn't add up at all.

Colibri · 14-05-2020 11:55am

It would be horrible if he just called him racist slurs, but he threatened to kill him. Zero sympathy.

Ryu Hayabusa · 14-05-2020 12:01pm

This Patrick lad, will get his head kicked in when he’s out on a night in town and it’ll be put up on Twitter.

Jucifer · 14-05-2020 1:20pm

Ryu Hayabusa wrote: »

This Patrick lad, will get his head kicked in when he’s out on a night in town and it’ll be put up on Twitter.

And do you think the people who would carry out a physical assault, with the real possibility of it going wrong and the young lad being crippled for life or dying, would be any better than the lad. The messages are horrible but someone willing to carry out such an attack is worse.

How about people leave it to the Gardaí to determine the punishment. He has already done plenty of damage to himself by sending that and it going viral. Can’t imagine people will be lining up to give him a job in future.

lawred2 · 14-05-2020 1:22pm

its_steve116 wrote: »

I know he's only young, but my word what he said was disgraceful. I hope he genuinely is sorry.

Who is Patrick O Brien?

lawred2 · 14-05-2020 1:24pm

dan1895 wrote: »

Who would hack it as he is supposed to be staying away from other people due to social distancing? Who would pick up someone else's phone in these current circumstances? His bs excuse doesn't add up at all.

You don't need someone's phone to access their account.

However, I don't believe for a second that any form of "hacking" occurred in this instance.

hopalongcass · 22-05-2020 10:14pm

Agree with everyone that its scummy and nasty what this kid posted but one time i would love for someone like him to highlight the messages he received and offer some kind of forgiveness to the kid without demands for action.Its still only words from a dumb kid.

I am sure the public at large would take care of whatever if any legal action was necessary once he highlighted it,if people in positions of influence like Wright is,appeared more forgiving not only would it affect the kid more positively it would affect race relations in a more positive way.

Instead he is publicly highlighting that yeah us Black people are easily affected by these words,other Black kids that look to him as a role model are then going to be equally offended if anyone calls them monkey or whatever it is,it only gives people more of an incentive to do it again when they want to hurt somebody and the cycle goes on until somebody is the bigger man.

Robsweezie · 22-05-2020 10:38pm

i doubt the lad himself actually holds genuine deeply held racist views, just a little **** out for attention saying the most inflammatory stuff that he knows will get him such attention. controversy is their oxygen.

22-05-2020 10:56pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Unless the offender is mentally ill, he should be punished and even made an example of. He has since come out to apologise and veer from the 'woz hacked, soz' excuse, but not good enough. That was some hardcore racism intended to cause maximum hurt, and he knew what he was doing.

Garda statement describe him as "a male, adult teenager" so we are probably talking 18 or 19, i.e. not a young kid who didn't know any better, so fück him and his abhorrent views.

Mental health shouldnt be used as a crutch to get out of anything...sick of that card being played as many people with mental health issues dont engage in this sort of behaviour or other nasty carry on

Potential-Monke · 25-05-2020 7:18am

coinop wrote: »

Is bullying a ginger a lesser crime than bullying an African?

Yup. Well, depending on the circumstances. The latter can be bullied because of racism. The former is bullied because of hair colour. One is protected by law, the other is shrugged off as 'life' (not much good telling that to a ginger kid who's being bullied simply because they're ginger).

The young lad, he's a racist dope, but then most racists are dopes anyway. He'll get the full force of the law here, to make an example I reckon.

25-05-2020 9:19am

Harley Quick Timer wrote: »

Mental health shouldnt be used as a crutch to get out of anything...sick of that card being played as many people with mental health issues dont engage in this sort of behaviour or other nasty carry on

Yeah but if I didn't write that line which you and another poster are focusing on, I'd have the "You don't know, he could have mental health issues" responses.

Your fight isn't with me buddy. I agree, and I regret posting in this thread in the first place never mind writing that line.

Doctors room ghost · 27-01-2021 1:17pm

Sentencing on this case is due today according to the wireless

Church on Tuesday · 27-01-2021 1:35pm

I hope he's made an example of.

Doctors room ghost · 27-01-2021 1:36pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

I hope he's made an example of.

Me too but I doubt he will.
Probably small suspended sentence and bound to the peace.

Fog Hat · 27-01-2021 1:49pm

A edgy kid who didn't realise the real world is not 4chan. He'll probably get a fine for racial hate which is appropriate.

Bit off putting the adults here who want to 'make an example' of him tbh.

Church on Tuesday · 27-01-2021 1:57pm

Fog Hat wrote: »

A edgy kid who didn't realise the real world is not 4chan. He'll probably get a fine for racial hate which is appropriate.

Bit off putting the adults here who want to 'make an example' of him tbh.

Bit off putting some adults here are apologists for this kind of behavior.

Fog Hat · 27-01-2021 2:01pm

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Bit off putting some adults here are apologists for this kind of behavior.

Lad, do you have any idea what goes on on 4chan? Or even mainstream sites like youtube and twitter? Let's round up everyone who used a racial slur on the internet?

Drop the white saviour complex and think rationally.

10000maniacs · 27-01-2021 2:07pm

gmisk wrote: »

He sent messages to Ian wright.
Horrendous.
Most of it will probably be starred out.

I know I'm not meant to look at them but these messages still hit me so hard man. This is a child!!! "You are a ****ing monkey", "**** coon monkey ******". Direct message to me from Patrick O'Brien on IG. This kid as a direct line into me & is able to send this without any worry. https://t.co/6noGvmkb4u

Glad O'Brien is being held to account by Ian Wright. Horrible racist language.

Church on Tuesday · 27-01-2021 2:35pm

Fog Hat wrote: »

Lad, do you have any idea what goes on on 4chan? Or even mainstream sites like youtube and twitter? Let's round up everyone who used a racial slur on the internet?

Drop the white saviour complex and think rationally.

You won't be around much longer, so little point engaging with you.

The Inbetween is mine · 27-01-2021 3:10pm

The judge has postponed sentencing for 1 week to review the probation report that was presented in court

Thelonious Monk · 27-01-2021 5:01pm

Can't believe people on this thread are trying to defend this kid. Wait no I can believe it on this site.

fryup · 03-02-2021 6:41pm

the little brat got probation and ian wright not too pleased

I wasn't expecting my forgiveness to be an invitation to lighten a sentence.

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2021/0203/1194820-ian-wright/

03-02-2021 6:59pm

Very light sentence for the young man. I've seen how angry my nephews get when they play video games, but that's no excuse for the vile racism sent to Ian Wright. It does nothing to lessen the idea that there's a real undertone of racism towards minorities in this country. He should have been made an example of.

Zaph · 03-02-2021 7:09pm

That's an absolutely shocking sentence. Can the DPP appeal against the leniency of a sentence when probation is given, or does that only apply to custodial sentences? The judge said "I don't see anything to be gained by imposing a criminal conviction." There's actually a huge amount to be gained. First, it shows that little scrote and others of his ilk that their actions have consequences, quite serious ones in some cases. And secondly it proves to the minority populations in this country that racism is taken seriously by the authorities. How many more cases of racist behaviour are now going to go unreported as a result of this judgement? This judge had a responsibility to do the right thing and he bottled it.

Goodigal · 03-02-2021 7:22pm

I think the sentence is appalling and a complete cop out by the judge. He should definitely have gotten a conviction and perhaps even a suspended sentence. But the Probation Act is embarrassing considering how high profile Ian Wright is and the level of threats made against him.

The Inbetween is mine · 03-02-2021 7:33pm

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/no-grudges-ian-wright-forgives-133717748.html

Ian Wright is entitled to his opinion on the Irish legal system, but in the interest of balance, he must show some consistency himself

Dempo1 · 03-02-2021 7:42pm

My thoughts are the sentence appropriate given the nature of the offence and current sentencing guidelines. I am however confused at the victims disappointment given he actually forgave the defendant whilst offering guidence on how to better himself.

Happy4all · 03-02-2021 7:46pm

Dempo1 wrote: »

My thoughts are the sentence appropriate given the nature of the offence and current sentencing guidelines. I am however confused at the victims disappointment given he actually forgave the defendant whilst offering guidence on how to better himself.

Families that suffer a murder can learn to forgive , it doesn't mean they want the muderer back out on the street a few minutes later.

IAMAMORON · 03-02-2021 7:58pm

What a waste of time. For everyone.

What was Wright expecting? A custodial sentence for an 18 year kid for shooting his mouth on Instagram?

The dude was very rude.... and certainly very bold.... but I doubt Wright was up all night scared for his life or anything. Granted that the kid was very racist, but come on, sticks and stones might break my bones?

And yes I read the messages..... how utterly shocking ..... and disgusting.

But I am sure Wright heard it all before. Shame on him, wishing prison on an immature kid for shooting his mouth off.

whisky_galore · 03-02-2021 8:06pm

If it's any consolation, he'll be forever known as that racist cünt in his home town. His name online forever associated with it.

Ah dya remember yer man from...who..wait...that was YOU?!

Happy4all · 03-02-2021 8:16pm

How much is pocket money a week these days?

Noticed it was a kerry taxi picked him up, wouldn't be a cheap ride, or maybe a friend or family favour for the poor young lad.

jmlad2020 · 03-02-2021 8:16pm

Lollipops23 wrote: »

Adult teenager is what the news said, so he has to be 18 or 19. Old enough to know it's totally unacceptable.

He isn't old enough at all. He is a little kid, 18 doesn't make someone an adult, life experience does and this kid has had very little.. Living in his xBox world where he can't separate fantasy from reality.

It's a Societal problem. Ignorance and poor parenting style........ In Ireland parents don't even sit their kids down to talk about sex! let alone lecture their kids about abusing others.

Your Face · 03-02-2021 8:17pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

If it's any consolation, he'll be forever known as that racist cünt in his home town. His name online forever associated with it.

Ah dya remember yer man from...who..wait...that was YOU?!

Perhaps but I'd say there is a fair few that think he is a legend mad lad.

take everything · 03-02-2021 8:26pm

The article reads like this guy isn't too bright.

A fair few little ****heads with nasty attitudes like his around I'd say tbh.

whisky_galore · 03-02-2021 8:45pm

Your Face wrote: »

Perhaps but I'd say there is a fair few that think he is a legend mad lad.

Covering his head in shame from the cameras at the courthouse. Legend alright. Lol.
Hope it follows him around like a bad smell.

milehip · 03-02-2021 9:08pm

Did people honestly think he deserved a custodial sentence for this? The amount of violent criminals that walk free with dozens of offences and
is that this guys 1st offence?

Fine, community service, sensitivity training- go nuts,

but banged up? get real

Edit: not defending the guy or his action but there seems to be a serious lack of perspective here.

Church on Tuesday · 03-02-2021 9:08pm

It's OK to be racist as long as you make a heartfelt apology most probably written up by your parents some wet Sunday afternoon and then make a donation of 500 quid, again, most certainly courtesy of mammy and daddy.

This "kid"/"dude" is a grown ****ing adult who should have been made an example of. Couple months on the inside would do him no harm sure. It is a hate crime after all.

He certainly wouldn't dare be racist again I'm guessing. But he might chance it again sometime down the line.

Tipsy McSwagger · 03-02-2021 9:23pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

What a waste of time. For everyone.

What was Wright expecting? A custodial sentence for an 18 year kid for shooting his mouth on Instagram?

The dude was very rude.... and certainly very bold.... but I doubt Wright was up all night scared for his life or anything. Granted that the kid was very racist, but come on, sticks and stones might break my bones?

And yes I read the messages..... how utterly shocking ..... and disgusting.

But I am sure Wright heard it all before. Shame on him, wishing prison on an immature kid for shooting his mouth off.

Idiot

milehip · 03-02-2021 9:24pm

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Idiot

dan1895 · 03-02-2021 9:28pm

All the usual anonymous accounts set up on Twitter in the last couple of months defending this rascist piece of ****.

zimmermania · 03-02-2021 9:29pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

What a waste of time. For everyone.

What was Wright expecting? A custodial sentence for an 18 year kid for shooting his mouth on Instagram?

The dude was very rude.... and certainly very bold.... but I doubt Wright was up all night scared for his life or anything. Granted that the kid was very racist, but come on, sticks and stones might break my bones?

And yes I read the messages..... how utterly shocking ..... and disgusting.

But I am sure Wright heard it all before. Shame on him, wishing prison on an immature kid for shooting his mouth off.

"shooting his mouth off",with hardly a rap on the knuckles for the racist clown is it any wonder racism exists in this country.

Beechwoodspark · 03-02-2021 9:34pm

Not condoning the comments for one nano second

These comments apparently happened because this guy was losing at a computer game and Ian Wright was one of his team in the game

So absolutely stupid carry on but quite specific circumstances

He didn’t “spontaneously” send those messages to Wright. From what we know of the case He doesn’t appear to be a foaming at the mouth racist.

He sent them in the context of an “over the top” reaction at a computer game.

Childish and naive. And stupid.

alchemist33 · 03-02-2021 9:37pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

What a waste of time. For everyone.

What was Wright expecting? A custodial sentence for an 18 year kid for shooting his mouth on Instagram?

The dude was very rude.... and certainly very bold.... but I doubt Wright was up all night scared for his life or anything. Granted that the kid was very racist, but come on, sticks and stones might break my bones?

And yes I read the messages..... how utterly shocking ..... and disgusting.

But I am sure Wright heard it all before. Shame on him, wishing prison on an immature kid for shooting his mouth off.

You're as much a part of the problem as the guy hurling the racist abuse, saying the black guy should just suck it up because he's been racially abused before. Shame on you, not shame on him.

enricoh · 03-02-2021 9:38pm

What do the permanently offended on here want - a year or two in clink for an 18 year old kid that sent racist tweets. A clown but he's hardly a menace to society!
Here's a fella in court yesterday who sexually assaulted two women in a pub, he got a e100 fine!
https://m.independent.ie/news/groper-who-sexually-assaulted-two-women-in-a-dublin-pub-walks-free-from-court-after-making-100-charity-donation-40047931.html
A GROPER who sexually assaulted two women in a Dublin bar has walked free from court with no criminal record, after making a €100 charity donation.

dan1895 · 03-02-2021 9:41pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Not condoning the comments for one nano second

These comments apparently happened because this guy was losing at a computer game and Ian Wright was one of his team in the game

So absolutely stupid carry on but quite specific circumstances

He didn’t “spontaneously” send those messages to Wright. From what we know of the case He doesn’t appear to be a foaming at the mouth racist.

He sent them in the context of an “over the top” reaction at a computer game.

Childish and naive. And stupid.

And rascist.

dan1895 · 03-02-2021 9:41pm

enricoh wrote: »

What do the permanently offended on here want - a year or two in clink for an 18 year old kid that sent racist tweets. A clown but he's hardly a menace to society!
Here's a fella in court yesterday who sexually assaulted two women in a pub, he got a e100 fine!
https://m.independent.ie/news/groper-who-sexually-assaulted-two-women-in-a-dublin-pub-walks-free-from-court-after-making-100-charity-donation-40047931.html
A GROPER who sexually assaulted two women in a Dublin bar has walked free from court with no criminal record, after making a €100 charity donation.

Whataboutery

Beechwoodspark · 03-02-2021 9:43pm

dan1895 wrote: »

And rascist.

Yes. You’d wonder did he realise that the Ian Wright he was firing abuse at was a real life person and not some pixels On a screen in the game he was losing at

Sephiroth_dude · 03-02-2021 9:44pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

What a waste of time. For everyone.

What was Wright expecting? A custodial sentence for an 18 year kid for shooting his mouth on Instagram?

The dude was very rude.... and certainly very bold.... but I doubt Wright was up all night scared for his life or anything. Granted that the kid was very racist, but come on, sticks and stones might break my bones?

And yes I read the messages..... how utterly shocking ..... and disgusting.

But I am sure Wright heard it all before. Shame on him, wishing prison on an immature kid for shooting his mouth off.

Ya by the sounds of it you sound real disgusted by it :rolleyes:, Shame on Ian Wright? really? shame on you for defending this racist scum.

03-02-2021 9:44pm

didn't really deserve to have his life affected by a conviction for that imo especially given his age

he was not some toerag with 40 convictions already so the impact of one here is significant

correct decision

What are your thoughts on the Ian Wright/Patrick O'Brien situation?

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