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  • #202
    Lady Chuckles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,279 ✭✭✭Lady Chuckles


    Sounds like a splendid idea to me too :)


  • #203
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I'll consider it. Don't expect anything from me this weekend, I'm busy. And so help me God, if I come back on Monday and see any more stupid drama, I will be VERY unhappy.


  • #204
    Cicero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    As a former "moaner" and one time regular poster of Tcn (blessings be upon it) ...if you take silly seriously fine....if you take the forum seriously, then the forum probably isn't for you...but then again...it's probably not for most people in large doses....do what it says on the tin ..."single flyovers preferred"....less is more here...


  • #205
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Just wanna put my two cents in.

    1. Anyone who thinks that we are cliquey here in tcn couldn't be more wrong. Maybe it seems that way but i feel we are very welcoming to new people. Take oranage for example. He wasn't a regular that long ago. Well as far as i know he wasn't. Correct me if i'm wrong. Anyway he just dove into the forum and started posting random silly. Now he's part of the furniture. Same with hondasam, teddy and many more. Just dive in and piss all over the kitchen table. Go mad. It doesn't really matter what you write, people will respond.

    2. In regard to the user specific threads - that's mostly my fault. I sometimes start a thread about someone because its funny to me but also to get them to start posting in the forum again....... But mostly because its funny to me.

    3. Teddy's idea is good but sarky wouldn't allow it.

    4. Can people please stop being mean to new people. It is scaring them away.

    4.5. RIP chucken1. A damn fine poster. Sad to see him go.

    5. ???

    6. Profit.

    ok that was 6 and a half cents. Almost enough for a wham bar.


  • #206
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Fago! wrote: »
    Just wanna put my two cents in.

    1. Anyone who thinks that we are cliquey here in tcn couldn't be more wrong. Maybe it seems that way but i feel we are very welcoming to new people. Take oranage for example. He wasn't a regular that long ago. Well as far as i know he wasn't. Correct me if i'm wrong. Anyway he just dove into the forum and started posting random silly. Now he's part of the furniture. Same with hondasam, teddy and many more. Just dive in and piss all over the kitchen table. Go mad. It doesn't really matter what you write, people will respond.

    2. In regard to the user specific threads - that's mostly my fault. I sometimes start a thread about someone because its funny to me but also to get them to start posting in the forum again....... But mostly because its funny to me.

    3. Teddy's idea is good but sarky wouldn't allow it.

    4. Can people please stop being mean to new people. It is scaring them away.

    4.5. RIP chucken1. A damn fine poster. Sad to see him go.

    5. ???

    6. Profit.

    ok that was 6 and a half cents. Almost enough for a wham bar.
    Lol! I'd spank that if there was a spank button here, its a funny.
    We need a spank button too damn it:mad:


  • #207
    Cicero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    Fago! wrote: »
    Just wanna put my two cents in.

    1. Anyone who thinks that we are cliquey here in tcn couldn't be more wrong. Maybe it seems that way but i feel we are very welcoming to new people.

    Personally I think Tcn is cliquey ...and has been for quite some time...* just sayin*


  • #208
    cyberwolf77
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    Gotta say I agree with Cicero. That's really one of the reasons I not in here much anymore


  • #209
    Deki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44,501 ✭✭✭✭Deki


    yeah, I think it is but i do come back from time to time. In all fairness though it always was cliquey a little - just was my clique I guess :p:)


  • #210
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Hmm. Well I didn't think so until you guys just said it. Maybe that's just me. But then again, most other forums (including private forums) are cliquey. They say they aren't but they are. Maybe that's what's happened here I guess. There's isn't really much you can do about that. 'cept maybe get rid of the chat thread (which I'm not the biggest fan of tbh) but when Sarky got rid of the chat thread last time the Nest saw a huge drop in numbers.

    There was one forum I started to post in and after a week or so I stopped because it was too cliquey. Not a private forum or any forum you lot post in btw.

    How would you suggest we get rid of cliques?


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  • #211
    cyberwolf77
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    You never gonna be rid of cliques


  • #212
    Deki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44,501 ✭✭✭✭Deki


    I don't really think you can. It is sort of a natural thing. I don't think the clique presently in TCN is the kind that shuts anyone out, just one that maybe isn't so comfortable for some people. Everything changes though- folks drop in and drop out and things change.
    The problem is some of us can't go with the flow, or just takes us longer to accept the change.:)


  • #213
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    The click perception perhaps is attributed by the in running jokes that occur cross threads. I agree with Fago about the chat thread. There's lots of places to chat.
    When Sarky redoes the charter I'm sure a lot of things will be made clearer.


  • #214
    Cicero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    Tcn is pretty much like a joke....try and explain it and you lose the point of the whole thing..the way the Charter is set up and the manner in which it is moderated (statement of fact only Sarky, linking back to the charter).. it's a deliberate catch 22... If you want a cosy forum...go get a social group like TLGH which emerged out of tcn....it kept some of the tcn principles of randomness and adopted others....it was successful to a degree but without a firm charter it ultimately failed ....tcn has a charter...that doesnt encourage "warm welcomes" to new posters or touchy feely feedback threads....time and again posters try and change this aspect....and they fail.....until the charter changes the issue of making tcn more "welcoming" will remain....it's ultimately up to the mods here to change it.....( again I'm only being objective and factual ...no offence to mods here intended...but again, this is tcn...so no offense assumed either...)


  • #215
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    The click perception perhaps is attributed by the in running jokes that occur cross threads. I agree with Fago about the chat thread. There's lots of places to chat.
    When Sarky redoes the charter I'm sure a lot of things will be made clearer.

    I'm very bored. Might write one to piss off Sarky :pac:

    Since I'm in a ranty mood, one thing that annoys me is how some of the posters here treat new people. Basically telling them to **** off. What good is that going to do? That's just gonna drive people away. Especially in the chat thread.


  • #216
    Deki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44,501 ✭✭✭✭Deki


    They sometimes do that. I didn't think they were serious about it though.


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  • #217
    Cicero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    Fago! wrote: »
    Since I'm in a ranty mood, one thing that annoys me is how some of the posters here treat new people. Basically telling them to **** off. What good is that going to do? That's just gonna drive people away. Especially in the chat thread.

    That's actively encouraged in the charter...go read it...


  • #218
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    @Deki - they were well serious. and even if they weren't serious, they're scaring people away.
    Cicero wrote: »
    Tcn is pretty much like a joke....try and explain it and you lose the point of the whole thing..the way the Charter is set up and the manner in which it is moderated (statement of fact only Sarky, linking back to the charter).. it's a deliberate catch 22... If you want a cosy forum...go get a social group like TLGH which emerged out of tcn....it kept some of the tcn principles of randomness and adopted others....it was successful to a degree but without a firm charter it ultimately failed ....tcn has a charter...that doesnt encourage "warm welcomes" to new posters or touchy feely feedback threads....time and again posters try and change this aspect....and they fail.....until the charter changes the issue of making tcn more "welcoming" will remain....it's ultimately up to the mods here to change it.....( again I'm only being objective and factual ...no offence to mods here intended...but again, this is tcn...so no offense assumed either...)

    Well said Cic.

    But:
    Cicero wrote: »
    ....tcn has a charter...that doesnt encourage "warm welcomes" to new posters

    It doesn't encourage people being dicks to new posters either. TCN is madness inside ur screenz and crazy and all that, which we all know and love. But where I draw the line is when madness becomes anger, yelling and bitchiness.


  • #219
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Cicero wrote: »
    That's actively encouraged in the charter...go read it...

    really? well either way, it shouldn't. Not to new people.


  • #220
    Cicero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    Fago! wrote: »
    really? well either way, it shouldn't. Not to new people.

    Yes...it does...

    "No personal abuse, unless it's REALLY FUNNY".

    ...define funny and you're into subjectivity .."personal abuse" is practiced regularly by both posters and mods of tcn..but then again, that's my opinion...so wtf is personal abuse as defined by tcn..but then again...wtf is "really funny" ?...like I said, deconstruct tcn and you probably don't belong here....and on that note......


  • #221
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Cicero wrote: »
    Yes...it does...

    "No personal abuse, unless it's REALLY FUNNY".

    ...define funny and you're into subjectivity .."personal abuse" is practiced regularly by both posters and mods of tcn..but then again, that's my opinion...so wtf is personal abuse as defined by tcn..but then again...wtf is "really funny" ?...like I said, deconstruct tcn and you probably don't belong here....and on that note......

    I always thought that referred to calling someone a cow or a slut or a bitch. There was a situation a while ago where some people were going mad at a new poster for some reason. They took it a bit too far and there was a bit of a kafuffel about it and as a result they've never been seen again.

    But as ye said Cic, it's a catch22 thing. Try define the charter and it kinda ruins the joke.


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  • #222
    OldeCinemaSoz
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    what the hell you boys going on about?

    i just wandered in here...

    you some sort of a clique or summit?!?!!


  • #223
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    No. This is The Cuckoo's Nest. There's an explanation nearer the start of this thread, if you want to know what this place is about.


  • #224
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Sarky wrote: »
    No. This is The Cuckoo's Nest. There's an explanation nearer the start of this thread, if you want to know what this place is about.
    Can you tell the AH moderators that?

    Not sure why that "things that annoy you" thread has been moved in here:confused:

    There are two things ruining teh silleh: (1) too much chat and (2) rolled up balls of paper from AH that miss "trash" and somehow end up here.


  • #225
    Star Lord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Fago! wrote: »
    TCN is madness inside ur screenz and crazy and all that, which we all know and love.
    This is the reason that a lot of my early posting on Boards was on tCN. Loved the silleh.
    Fago! wrote: »
    But where I draw the line is when madness becomes anger, yelling and bitchiness.
    This is why I, and I'm sure plenty others have stopped posting here. It's not just new people that get it directed at them.
    When I felt myself being pissed off years ago in here, I posted in the ban thread, as I knew I needed a time out.
    When Sarky got the job modding here, I came back, as I knew he'd be the perfect one to restore the silleh. Not sure what's happened, but he seems to have either lost the desire to mod the place, or is just too busy IRL now, but the Iron Fist seems to have become marshmallow, and the ones that are responsible for the bitchiness, anger and outright hatefulness are let away with it time and again. I just can't understand why!


  • #226
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    I'm working on it.


  • #227
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    The new charter is seriously awesome! :D:D:):):D:D


  • #228
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Well done on the charter Sarky!
    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    The new charter is seriously awesome! :D:D:):):D:D

    You goddayum right son! it's a gem.


  • #229
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Since thanking of posts is impossible from this vantage point, I shall just emit my gladness like nuclear radiation.

    But please oh please implement that charter. Do it with the grit and temerity of a modern day Thatcher. If it were so, the Cuckoos nest would be truly a cuckoo place to post.


  • #230
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    later10 wrote: »
    Do it with the grit and temerity of a modern day Thatcher. If it were so, the Cuckoos nest would be truly a cuckoo place to post.

    Say now, that's dangerous thinking there. You best stick to your work!

    191598.jpg

    But yeah a Thatcher type nest would be great.


  • #231
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Fair enough. Tougher moderation it is.


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  • #232
    later12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    I am at once aroused and afraid, Mrs Thatcher.
    Fago! wrote: »
    Say now, that's dangerous thinking there. You best stick to your work!

    191598.jpg

    But yeah a Thatcher type nest would be great.

    How did you find my linkedin page:eek:


  • #233
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Folks, this is the ONE thread in TCN where silly is not allowed.


  • #234
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Thatcher is an absolutely poisonous bitch.


  • #235
    OldeCinemaSoz
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭OldeCinemaSoz


    Sarky wrote: »
    No. This is The Cuckoo's Nest. There's an explanation nearer the start of this thread, if you want to know what this place is about.

    Sorry.

    Just a bit of paraphasing from LIVE AND LET DIE.

    :)

    "Secret agent? On who's side???"!!!

    Humour. It frackin' works. :)


  • #236
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Not in this thread, I'm afraid. I really don't ask much of anyone who posts in TCN, but this thread is for serious discussion only, and as such humour doesn't have a place in it. By all means feel free to go nuts on any thread but this one.

    This one thread is only for the kind of thing I mentioned in post #1.


  • #237
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    Maybe an introduce yourself to the asylum would be a good idea for the newbies?!

    I've had enough time to give it some thought. Let me see a show of hands for people still in favour of applying this suggestion in some manner.


  • #238
    homer simpson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,852 ✭✭✭homer simpson


    Sarky wrote: »
    I've had enough time to give it some thought. Let me see a show of hands for people still in favour of applying this suggestion in some manner.

    +1


  • #239
    Fago!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    Sure why not +1. Can't wait for this to be abused by me, teddy and Sarky.


  • #240
    Deki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44,501 ✭✭✭✭Deki


    Where are these newbies?


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  • #241
    Princess Peach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    We are afraid to come in Deki!

    Its a good idea in other forums anyway. A lot of forums have regular posters and an intro thread lets new people know they are welcome and that the posters are friendly.

    You could put some sort of initiation test or something fun in it too.


  • #242
    cyberwolf77
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,825 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    Sarky wrote: »
    I've had enough time to give it some thought. Let me see a show of hands for people still in favour of applying this suggestion in some manner.
    I would think such a thing might work


  • #243
    Cicero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Cicero


    No harm in giving it a try...


  • #244
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    I might be fun to toy with some new inmates :D


  • #245
    Deki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44,501 ✭✭✭✭Deki


    Princess Peach wrote: »
    We are afraid to come in Deki!
    Why ?
    Its a good idea in other forums anyway. A lot of forums have regular posters and an intro thread lets new people know they are welcome and that the posters are friendly.
    I think you can say they are welcome to participate and post, but who can define friendly or enforce friendliness?

    You could put some sort of initiation test or something fun in it too.
    I am not sure what that would be. I also think we may have to define fun as compared to silly? Also I think this is just getting too complicated and I 'm wondering if it's worth it?


  • #246
    FTGFOP
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    Deki wrote: »
    I also think we may have to define fun as compared to silly?

    Good point. I'm not sure I understand the distinction.


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  • #247
    Princess Peach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Ok I'll take the perspective of someone brand new to the forum. They get here and see a lot of crazy things and don't really know what to do. They might read a few threads, see a few regulars going back and forth with each other. The serious thread is stickied here and reading this does not give the impression of a friendly forum at times.

    Friendliness can be enforced by reporting posts you feel are unfriendly or bullying to be extreme.

    Having an intro thread gives new people a place to go straight to where they can be welcomed, and get a good feeling about the place.

    I was just thinking that maybe get the newbies to draw a funny picture or find a gif that displays their current emotional state, just something I thought of!


  • #248
    Deki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44,501 ✭✭✭✭Deki


    good ideas Peach and hope it works. I don't post here as much as I once did because my "fun" didn't seem to match up to others fun- Don't want to cause problems. Everyone finds their own niche


  • #249
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Defining fun or silly will end in tears. As will any attempts to add more rules.

    I do not aim to let this place become a fluffy magical land of sunshine and flowers and happy elves for mollycoddled users. That way lies the stagnation of the recent past. This forum is finally starting to crawl out from under its label of boring forum for rubbish threads and toothless recycled fun for special snowflakes, and I'll set fire to the servers before I let it slip back that way again. Safe becomes boring. A bite is required, and shall remain. Posters need to be able to stand up for themselves, riff off others, provide silliness for others to react to. Simply counting and chatting don't provide that.

    I'm busy with many things at the moment, and will unlikely have time to do anything serious about this for another week. Suggestions will be much appreciated, as long as they account for what I typed above.


  • #250
    sNarah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,570 ✭✭✭sNarah


    Yay on the charter.
    The newbie place could work - I'm not sure if I think it will have much use as TCN scares the crap out of anyone unfamiliar anyway. It *is* quite a daunting place to post in but at the same time, it makes the beauty of it.
    Less drama would be lovely.
    The main reason I'm not here as much is actually work (no interwebs/time) and a far too busy real life (imagine that), but also a wee bit the "mundane" threads, with far too little silly and other posters who just don't get it. (That would mainly be transfers from AH, the poor things, and rambler by's for the record).
    We need more MS paint.


  • #251
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I think we should just keep moaning about how unfunny the nest is now compared to back when and how some of the posters just don't get it till nobody posts anymore :)


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