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Air Accident / Incident thread

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    #482
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,044 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    .........


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    #483
    cml387
    Registered Users Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭cml387


    I suppose the abrasion of the fuel line was of some concern to the investigators.


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    #484
    Dardania
    Registered Users Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    Such a thorough report indeed. A model for other industries.

    I like how the nut was so tight that percussion was required to remove it.


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    #485
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,044 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    This AVHERALD report is interesting and looks rather unique.

    http://avherald.com/h?article=4bcefedb&opt=152


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    #486
    tnegun
    Registered Users Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Wow that just shows you how tough these aircraft are to get back in the air after that. My read is that the flight crew messed up but ultimately recovered or did they just get lucky with the near stall after the balked landing?


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    #487
    Dardania
    Registered Users Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    tnegun wrote: »
    Wow that just shows you how tough these aircraft are to get back in the air after that. My read is that the flight crew messed up but ultimately recovered or did they just get lucky with the near stall after the balked landing?

    Must have been extremely lucky, especially considering the presence of downdraughts and they didn’t have much altitude.

    Sounds like a massive workload temporarily overwhelmed them?


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    #488
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,219 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    737 went off the runway in Jacksonville. All on board accounted for, thankfully.

    https://twitter.com/JSOPIO/status/1124506148256743424

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    #489
    Ennisman
    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭Ennisman


    Leased from Avolon and last visited Shannon on March 12th. Glad all ok.


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    #490
    John_Mc
    Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭John_Mc


    Landing at 173kt IAS with inoperative reverse thrust and a wet shortened runway. Yikes!


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    #491
    Mebuntu
    Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Mebuntu


    The report on the serious incident involving an Aer Lingus A320 at Cork is out.

    http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/files/report-attachments/2019-004_EI-GAL.pdf

    At the time of this incident many on here were very quick to criticise the passengers who opened and exited through the overwing exits. I think the report shows there was very good reason why they did so.


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    #492
    Cloudio9
    Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    Mebuntu wrote: »
    The report on the serious incident involving an Aer Lingus A320 at Cork is out.

    http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/files/report-attachments/2019-004_EI-GAL.pdf

    At the time of this incident many on here were very quick to criticise the passengers who opened and exited through the overwing exits. I think the report shows there was very good reason why they did so.

    I wonder if EI will modify the SOP for rapid disembarkation.


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    #493
    plodder
    Registered Users Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭plodder


    Cloudio9 wrote: »
    I wonder if EI will modify the SOP for rapid disembarkation.
    Sounds like they should. If they don't want people to use the over wing exits in that situation, then they should say so.


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    #494
    billie1b
    Registered Users Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭billie1b


    plodder wrote: »
    Sounds like they should. If they don't want people to use the over wing exits in that situation, then they should say so.

    Very true, a very simple ‘ladies and gentlemen we will be disembarking the aircraft shortly using steps provided at the front and rear of the aircraft, please do so in an orderly but timely manner leaving all belongings behind’


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    #495
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users Posts: 4,141 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    The avionics cooling fan again, seems to be a common issue across numerous aircraft type.


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    #496
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Basically it comes down to passengers not knowing the difference between the words "disembark" and "evacuate" in terms of the procedure to be used, which is fairly understandable.


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    #497
    Mebuntu
    Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Mebuntu


    Cloudio9 wrote: »
    I wonder if EI will modify the SOP for rapid disembarkation.
    My reading of the report is that they don't intend to modify but I think this can be compensated for by the Cabin Crew, in their pre-flight briefing to the passengers in the emergency rows, being more forceful and emphasising that if the Captain orders "Evacuation" they should open the emergency doors but NOT if he orders the lesser "Rapid Disembarkation".

    On another point it is interesting to read that the flight crew said that they expected to get all their flight instruments back when the electrical config was switched on again but that didn't happen.

    Another thing that surprised me was that Flight Data Recorders on aircraft do not have an associated UPS and this vital equipment (in the event of an accident/incident) doesn't continue to record anything if the power has to be switched off


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    #498
    Mebuntu
    Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Mebuntu


    Mebuntu wrote: »
    The report on the serious incident involving an Aer Lingus A320 at Cork is out.

    http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/files/report-attachments/2019-004_EI-GAL.pdf

    At the time of this incident many on here were very quick to criticise the passengers who opened and exited through the overwing exits. I think the report shows there was very good reason why they did so.


    EDIT 10/05/2019: I've been advised that the link for the report has been changed to:
    http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/files/report-attachments/REPORT%202019-004.pdf


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    #499
    Truckermal
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    https://www.instagram.com/p/BxRpWmXg88Y/?igshid=egsa01fqcch9

    Ryanair panic stations!


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    #500
    Dardania
    Registered Users Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    Truckermal wrote: »
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BxRpWmXg88Y/?igshid=egsa01fqcch9

    Ryanair panic stations!

    footage like that is so valuable to learn from. It's a real, un prepared for situation.


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    #501
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,079 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Good to see vast majority without hand luggage


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    #502
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    This is old footage from late July/early August last year.


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    #503
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    i was on 2 flights yesterday and there it was very noticeable how clear they were making it that in event of an emergency, that you were to leave all hand luggage behind.

    obviously a memo has gone out following events in Russia.


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    #504
    Bsal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,767 ✭✭✭Bsal


    2-RORO SR22 has crashed in Wales today, I was just watching it the other day inbound to Kerry. 3 people injured but not seriously

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-48243610

    https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/2-roro#207b7792


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    #505
    goingnowhere
    Registered Users Posts: 4,141 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    i was on 2 flights yesterday and there it was very noticeable how clear they were making it that in event of an emergency, that you were to leave all hand luggage behind.

    obviously a memo has gone out following events in Russia.

    Aer Lingus have been doing this for years, its been on the script since I think the BA 777 Las Vegas incident


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    #506
    smurfjed
    Registered Users Posts: 10,044 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    DUBAI: Four people were killed when a small plane crashed near Dubai International Airport, temporarily halting some flights in and out of the busy regional hub.

    The crash killed three Britons and a South African on board the four-seater Diamond DA62, the Dubai Civil Aviation Authority said. The UK registered plane was on a mission to calibrate terrestrial navigation systems at the airport when it crashed about 5 kilometers south of the airport.

    I'm not too sure if this is the same company that uses the callsign FlightCheck and did the checks at Irish airports, but its a sad event, may they RIP.


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    #507
    ElNino
    Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭ElNino


    This must have been a bit embarrassing for the pilot involved

    Pilot diverted plane to Shannon after spilling coffee


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    #508
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,019 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Dropping something could've been worse :eek:

    https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19370209-0

    Edit: this spillage caused fatalities

    https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19850815-0

    There is no future for Boards as long as it stays on the complete toss that is the Vanilla "platform", we've given those Canadian twats far more chances than they deserve.



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    #509
    martinsvi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    ElNino wrote: »
    This must have been a bit embarrassing for the pilot involved

    Pilot diverted plane to Shannon after spilling coffee

    I'm a wee bit concerned a spilled drink on the ACP didn't trip a circuit breaker allowing burning/melting to develop. I hope investigators will/have looked into this


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    #510
    Dardania
    Registered Users Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Dardania


    martinsvi wrote: »
    I'm a wee bit concerned a spilled drink on the ACP didn't trip a circuit breaker allowing burning/melting to develop. I hope investigators will/have looked into this

    Interesting one. Trade off of precise tripping value against thermal conditions a breaker is in and getting a good supply of spares in the field...

    Maybe an ELCB would be more appropriate for this problem?


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    #511
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,019 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Resistance to earth at 30,000 feet could be an issue :pac:

    There is no future for Boards as long as it stays on the complete toss that is the Vanilla "platform", we've given those Canadian twats far more chances than they deserve.



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