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Proper Pronunciation or lah-dee-dah

  • 02-06-2019 9:39am
    #1
    cdgalwegian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭


    I think the tide has turned with the pronunciation of Renault; it was mostly pronounced Renawlt, but now appears to be mainly Renoh. But what about Peugeot? Are we still embarrassed to pronounce it as it should- Puh-zho, instead of Pew-jo?


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  • #2
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Gateaux


  • #3
    somesoldiers
    Registered Users Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    The Toyota MR2 had to be renamed in France due to sounding like another French word- “MR deux”


  • #4
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Vole vous coach with me tonight?


  • #5
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,657 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Most people can't pronounce English words properly so I wouldn't be concerned with French pronunciations just yet.


  • #6
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Most people can't pronounce English words properly so I wouldn't be concerned with French pronunciations just yet.

    Ain't dat de trut.


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  • #7
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,657 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    biko wrote: »
    Vole vous coach with me tonight?

    It's 'couch' not 'coach's.

    "Do you want to sleep on the couch tonight?"

    Sleeping on the coach? Lol


  • #8
    cdgalwegian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Gateaux



    Yeah, Gattux sounds less lah-dee-dah I suppose. :)

    I think Puh-zho sounds too English for some people as well; double-whammy!


  • #9
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Qwahsaw


  • #10
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • #11
    touts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭touts


    Renao, Renalt, Peageo. I wouldn't worry about it. The tow truck company will still find you if you just tell them you're in the "french piece of sh1t" broken down on the side of the motorway.


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  • #12
    Dakota Dan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    Most people can't pronounce English words properly so I wouldn't be concerned with French pronunciations just yet.
    At least we've an excuse as we're only using English only with over 100 years. The Brits are a different story, many of them have trouble speaking their own language.


  • #13
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,657 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    At least we've an excuse as we're only using English only with over 100 years.

    That's not an excuse.


  • #14
    Twenty Grand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭Twenty Grand


    Irish ads for Dacia pronounce it Dah see ah.
    English ads pronounce it Dah Cha.

    Some people still call it Day see ah.


  • #15
    cdgalwegian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    Twenty Grand wrote: »
    Irish ads for Dacia pronounce it Dah see ah.
    English ads pronounce it Dah Cha.

    Some people still call it Day see ah.

    It's the old Latin word for Romania, so I suppose it depends on that.


  • #16
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Who's on a wah-way phone reading this?


    Ill be having Milly Filly for desert instead of gato


  • #17
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Twenty Grand wrote: »
    Irish ads for Dacia pronounce it Dah see ah.
    English ads pronounce it Dah Cha.

    Some people still call it Day see ah.

    correct pronunciation is:

    Da Chee Ah


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia


  • #18
    cdgalwegian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    correct pronunciation is:

    Da Chee Ah


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia

    I always thought it was Day-see-ah. Now I know. Merci.

    I'm pretty certain the vast majority of us use the dumbed-down version of Peugeot (including me). Just like the British, we're terrible at foreign languages, and speaking with a proper accent in them is still considered hi-falutin. But our self-confidence as a nation I think is building. Maybe that's being reflected in the classrooms these days- I don't really know, but there are far more kids willing to enter talent shows now than there used to be it seems.
    A little thing like how we pronounce something trivial says a lot about our confidence, or - maybe- more about our habit of keeping people in their proper place. :rolleyes:


  • #19
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is nothing wrong with the Anglicisation of foreign words. Including trade names and place names. Does anyone want me to pronounce Japanese or Korean trade names the way the natives do?



  • #20
    cdgalwegian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong with the Anglicisation of foreign words. ]

    Who said there was anything wrong it?
    It's more nuanced than that, namely having the confidence, or not, to at least have a go at native pronunciations, rather than intentionally mangling a word in case it sounds pretentious otherwise.


  • #21
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Alf Veedersane wrote: »
    That's not an excuse.

    That's not even true. People in Ireland have been speaking English for way more than 100 years.


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  • #22
    Qrt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Qrt


    KathleenGrant wrote: »
    That's not even true. People in Ireland have been speaking English for way more than 100 years.

    I think s/he means as a majority.


  • #23
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CoooolYA BoOooLYA


    now go get your can of SPAR cola & packet of crisps OP


  • #24
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Qrt wrote: »
    I think s/he means as a majority.

    100 years ago is 1919 I would think the majority spoke English in 1919


  • #25
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Anyone going to Madge-orca or Eye-beetsa for their hols?


  • #26
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    When did Ikea become ee-key-a, per their TV adverts?


  • #27
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    cdgalwegian wrote: »
    Who said there was anything wrong it?
    It's more nuanced than that, namely having the confidence, or not, to at least have a go at native pronunciations, rather than intentionally mangling a word in case it sounds pretentious otherwise.

    Next time you are in company say Paree instead of Paris. Judge the reaction for signs that they think you are pretentious or an embarrassment.


  • #28
    cdgalwegian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Next time you are in company say Paree instead of Paris. Judge the reaction for signs that they think you are pretentious or an embarrassment.

    Yer spot on there. No way, sirrreee. But then again, like I said, I say Pew-jo, not puh-zho. I think I'll swap over though. Puh-zho has a .. je ne sais quoi about it.:)

    I lived in Essex for a while and visited a place called Theydon Bois. Naturally, I thought it was pronounced Theydon Bwoh- turns out they call it Theydon Boyze. No point in trying to convince them of the error of their ways.

    Definitely think I'll start saying Puh-zho. 'bout time I did.


  • #29
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Shame on you AH.
    This video should have been in the first 8 posts.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #30
    cdgalwegian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭cdgalwegian


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Shame on you AH.
    This video should have been in the first 8 posts.


    :D She says it with such confidence.


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  • #31
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    correct pronunciation is:

    Da Chee Ah

    tru dat


  • #32
    cj maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,610 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    cdgalwegian wrote: »
    :D She says it with such confidence.

    That explains a lot about an encounter I had in New York!


  • #33
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,281 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    cdgalwegian wrote: »
    I think the tide has turned with the pronunciation of Renault; it was mostly pronounced Renawlt, but now appears to be mainly Renoh.

    Renault has always been pronounced Renoh, apart from a few non city people who knew no better, probably the same few who pronounce Thailand as Thigh-land :)


  • #34
    RobMc59
    Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    A while back visiting family in Drogheda I heard a radio advert for new films available on VHS in Ireland(yes it was that long ago!)and I was fascinated by the pronunciation of"poltergeist"which was pronounced "polterjoist"which is pronounced "poltergaist"in England.


  • #35
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    A while back visiting family in Drogheda I heard a radio advert for new films available on VHS in Ireland(yes it was that long ago!)and I was fascinated by the pronunciation of"poltergeist"which was pronounced "polterjoist"which is pronounced "poltergaist"in England.

    Is that Drogheda or Drok-heeda?


  • #36
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    Shame on you AH.
    This video should have been in the first 8 posts.

    I give her Coke. She give me happy ending


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  • #37
    kowloon
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    Christina Savory Idiot wrote: »
    When did Ikea become ee-key-a, per their TV adverts?

    It was introduced to me as 'eye-key-ah' and it'll stay that way.


  • #38
    goose2005
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    Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »
    Is that Drogheda or Drok-heeda?

    In "The Thorn Birds", the main character is supposed to be Irish, but she names her rural estate "Drogheda", the name of a town, and pronounces it Droe-gee-da.


  • #39
    milehip
    Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭milehip


    touts wrote: »
    Renao, Renalt, Peageo. I wouldn't worry about it. The tow truck company will still find you if you just tell them you're in the "french piece of sh1t" broken down on the side of the motorway.

    Is that borrowed from "Viz's top tips"? If not you may have missed your calling.


  • #40
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,656 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Anybody who pronounces "restaurant" the French way will still get looks.

    And I will continue to pronounce Lidl to rhyme with lid. Despite the deliberate ad campaign.


  • #41
    It BeeMee
    Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭It BeeMee


    cdgalwegian wrote: »
    I think the tide has turned with the pronunciation of Renault; it was mostly pronounced Renawlt, but now appears to be mainly Renoh. But what about Peugeot? Are we still embarrassed to pronounce it as it should- Puh-zho, instead of Pew-jo?

    It may be a Renoh Cleeoh, but it will always be a Renawlt Four


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  • #42
    LimeFruitGum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    goose2005 wrote: »
    In "The Thorn Birds", the main character is supposed to be Irish, but she names her rural estate "Drogheda", the name of a town, and pronounces it Droe-gee-da.

    That used to wreck my head. The accents were pretty much all over the shop on that show.


  • #43
    trashcan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Can I mention people saying tremenjous. Is that still a thing ? Bertie Aherne was a chief culprit. Boils my p*ss as they say.


  • #44
    RobMc59
    Registered Users Posts: 4,831 ✭✭✭RobMc59


    LimeFruitGum wrote: »
    That used to wreck my head. The accents were pretty much all over the shop on that show.

    Were`nt all the actors American and Australian in that show?


  • #45
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,420 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Fukushima is another one. The Japanese say Foo Koosh Ma.

    Everyone copy please.


  • #46
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    cdgalwegian wrote: »
    I think the tide has turned with the pronunciation of Renault; it was mostly pronounced Renawlt, but now appears to be mainly Renoh. But what about Peugeot? Are we still embarrassed to pronounce it as it should- Puh-zho, instead of Pew-jo?

    Don't mind the French.


  • #47
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Thierry Henry is pronounced 'robbing bastard'.


  • #48
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    Your Face wrote: »
    Thierry Henry is pronounced 'robbing bastard'.

    Really. That's not how I pronounce it


  • #49
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    goose2005 wrote: »
    In "The Thorn Birds", the main character is supposed to be Irish, but she names her rural estate "Drogheda", the name of a town, and pronounces it Droe-gee-da.

    Yeah, try getting back into the mood of a film after you're wrenched back to reality by something like that.....


  • #50
    Poor Uncle Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,546 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    It's pronounced lep-re-kaun...

    not fuc*** le-pree-shun,

    I don't care if you were born and raised in the good 'ol US of A it doesn't give you the right to disgrace my heritage, the least you can do is google it... thanks.


  • #51
    LimeFruitGum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭LimeFruitGum


    RobMc59 wrote: »
    Were`nt all the actors American and Australian in that show?

    Everywhere but Oz. The leading lady was English. She was gorgeous but couldn’t act her way out of a paper bag. I think her husband in the series was an Aussie, but otherwise yeah, I think most of the cast were American. Guess they forgot to hire a dialect coach :D


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