Enniscorthy

Southsider1 · 09-06-2010 7:21pm #1

I had to wait around for an hour in Enniscorthy today for an appointment so decided to sit down by the river opposite the Bus Stop. I was so sad to see the state of the place. The rubbish strewn around, the seats too dirty to sit on. Such a shame with it being such a pleasant spot to sit and have a sambo at lunchtime. Does the council not send cleaners down there?

Judgement Day · 09-06-2010 10:07pm

Southsider1 wrote: »

I had to wait around for an hour in Enniscorthy today for an appointment so decided to sit down by the river opposite the Bus Stop. I was so sad to see the state of the place. The rubbish strewn around, the seats too dirty to sit on. Such a shame with it being such a pleasant spot to sit and have a sambo at lunchtime. Does the council not send cleaners down there?

The seats and railings by the river haven't been painted for at least ten years either. The council appear to have plenty of staff but their appropriate deployment seems to be beyond officialdom.

More here: http://countywexford.blogspot.com/

Bearhunter · 10-06-2010 1:55am

The Quay hasn't been as much as swept since the Baw Wildes retired, FFS. I certainly wouldn't sit there unless I wnated to pick up an exotic disease.

sundula · 10-06-2010 12:19pm

Bearhunter wrote: »

The Quay hasn't been as much as swept since the Baw Wildes retired, FFS. I certainly wouldn't sit there unless I wnated to pick up an exotic disease.

Council didnt clean the playground at Riverside after the floods either, not the place to bring you kids. I'm afraid alot of the current council work force are to posh to be seen sweeping up or cleaning, that is unless it involves using a machine.

Southsider1 · 10-06-2010 9:43pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

The seats and railings by the river haven't been painted for at least ten years either. The council appear to have plenty of staff but their appropriate deployment seems to be beyond officialdom. More here: http://countywexford.blogspot.com/

It's a pity really, given that the CIE Tours busses stop there as well as the Expressway busses. This 'gateway' could be cleaned up without much effort and at minimal cost. And it was beautiful there by the river in the sun. Such a shame about the surroundings. Although those who scattered their rubbish must also carry the can.

Judgement Day · 30-06-2010 7:37pm

From today's Guardian comes the first 'potentially' good idea that I have seen coming from the UDC since I have lived in the town. I was only thinking of this recently myself but of course the fund will have to be used wisely. Perhaps a worthwhile junket for some of the UDC councillors/officials would be Clonakilty or Kinsale - to see what can be achieved with paint and flowers.

Judgement Day · 30-06-2010 7:44pm

Pic of Clonakity below and link to more here: http://www.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://www.invectis.co.uk/cork/clon10.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.invectis.co.uk/cork/wsclonakilty.htm&usg=__jN2RR2HAUN6lAeb6T4MA1qOecQQ=&h=335&w=600&sz=35&hl=en&start=7&itbs=1&tbnid=4IEkdukd2Un1oM:&tbnh=75&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dclonakilty%2Bshop%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1

Padjo1981 · 21-07-2010 6:03pm

Have seen a thread talking about the state of the seating area between the bridges in town. I think it's outragous that it's left in that state. Last week after 3 days of solid rain I saw 5 council workers out watering the plants around the town. Where is the plan behind that? Makes me soooo mad.

Judgement Day · 21-07-2010 6:24pm

I think the title of this thread is wrong - Council management in Enniscorthy would be more appropriate. I see council staff working quite hard about the town but, as you say, there appears to be little direction to their activities. The town is one big mess. We are in the middle of 1500 celebrations and the council can't even paint the seats in the Market Square - feet from their offices - and there is, once again, marker graffiti on the 1798 memorial. I could go on but what's the point - and I nearly forgot some wonderful Judge has just given a drink licence to yet another night club in the town. :mad:

furerer · 23-07-2010 8:35pm

The foam that pours out of the fountain makes me laugh!:D

Judgement Day · 23-07-2010 9:34pm

furerer wrote: »

The foam that pours out of the fountain makes me laugh!:D

The Singing Bird was supposed to have been removed to a less public location a couple of years ago but as for foam - there's been no water in it for months now so even that bit of amusement is gone. :rolleyes:

'scorthy · 23-07-2010 10:24pm

"marker graffiti on the 1798 memorial.." Where did it all go wrong? I heard this evening of a party from Belfast paid a visit to Vinegar Hill expecting to see a spectacular remembrance to those who fought for our liberty....the tree of Liberty was nicked...it was a sorry sight. Shame..shame..shame...
My Great-Grandfather was one of the men who placed Shepherds art in situ in the market square. Sad...sad..sad......

furerer · 24-07-2010 12:15pm

Did anyone notice the article in the echo this week about "dog poo"?
Are there not laws regarding the removal by the owners? How many of them are ever in court? Why does the dog warden not pursue it?
And please do not reply with "no-one sees the dog doing it", the garda can catch someone peeing up an alleyway, and everyone in town misses nothing. Dogs are constantly running around the town with no owner in sight.....but does the dog warden do anything?
Answer is.....the same as most laws in Ireland.....they are not enforced, due to lack of interest, and the fact no organisation wants to take in these wandering dogs, not around Wexford anyway.

So, Enniscorthy council, either pursue the matter or shut up. We, the people, are not going to do the job for you. And if the matter grinds at the council......employ someone to clean up the streets of dog excrament...that's if the council will employ anyone of course.......it may mean that a councillor/s might not be able to claim all their expenses!

We can't have that.......can we!!:pac:

Cantona's Collars · 24-07-2010 5:06pm

Had a wonderful experience with my two year old dodging dogsh1te on Rafter Street today-shameful for a main thoroughfare of the town. The Mill Park road and Milehouse Road seem to be the place to empty your dog every day.(maybe coincidence but those areas are where the 2 secondary schools are-a nice walk to school with paths covered in crap)
I remember when I was younger and walking along Mill Park Road early in the morning witnessing people letting dogs sh1t all over the path.
Any other country it's a fine for not cleaning up(it's actually enforced) and frowned upon-here it seems people are afraid to confront the offending owners and no enforcement .:mad:

Padjo1981 · 24-07-2010 8:21pm

I walk my dog around time all the time, but always have a bag and toilet paper with me to pick up after him. I think I am one of the very few who do this.
I saw a sign across from the court house saying it's a 1800 fine for not cleaning it up. A few of those handed out and I think the proble would not be long sorted out

furerer · 24-07-2010 8:49pm

Rock on padjo1981........one of the few good dog owners. I see that sh_te seems to bring the comments out! So to add some more trash to it....what about the dumping of rubbish?
Is it not time for the govmt and councils to make it law that every household/property has bins? It amazes me the amount of properties that do not have bins, I mean, lets face it, everyone has rubbish....where do these unbinned households dispose of their trash....lets see....I know of 1 household that collects their rubbish each morning, walks into town, and throws it in a bin by the side of the road that is meant for pedestrians to dispose of small items of litter, (sweet papers, etc). The bin at the Still pond is frequently overflowing.....council workers take note!
I know of 1 landlord that recently found out that their last tenants disposed of their crap in the loft....yes the loft! A years supply!
Then of course there is the "dumper" that likes to dump rubbish outside the town along beautifull lanes, like the one I live on, beds, suites, fridges, household rubbish, nappies, etc. And this is just Enniscorthy.
And I dont want to hear that some people pay by the bag and leave it by the side of the road to be collected......most times it is ripped apart by animals and left there to blow around.
Make it law that every property has to have bins and stop the majority of dumping.
By the way, does anyone know if the traffic warden, dog warden, and litter warden in Enniscorthy is the one person?

Padjo1981 · 24-07-2010 9:12pm

I have seen a the dog warden van around town in the last few days. Not sure what he was doing but he drove straight past 3 dogs wandering the street with no collar or owner in sight. I think the traffic warden can fine you for littering and that. I am not 100% on that though.

furerer · 24-07-2010 9:46pm

Yep, about right. But I wanted to know if the three people I mentioned are in fact the 1 person doing three jobs, traffic warden, dog control, litter warden. I know the traffic warden has a new hoppo, has had for a while now, but I'm talking about the original one....we all know him in town.

Padjo1981 · 24-07-2010 9:50pm

I am not sure, but it would make sense for the 1 to enforce all 3. But making sense would not be the irish thing to do.

furerer · 24-07-2010 10:17pm

Well padjo1981.....he doesn't really enforce anything......apart from the odd parking ticket....it is the easiest after all.

I'm going to have to disagree slightly with you, (please....no violence), and say that each of the subjects should be dealt with by seperate people, it's a full time job watching parking offenders, a full time job dealing with rubbish dumping, and by the state of the towns footpaths a full time job catching dogs and their owners. Each of these positions would pay for themselves if the employed people were diligent, one 1800 euro fine for dog crap would be a good weeks work, a 2000 euro fine for dumping is pretty good too, and handing out all those tickets brings in a tidy sum. Not to mention that if all properties had to have bins...this would also bring in further cash...and stop some of the dumping.
Who is responsible for the positions we talk about.....the council.....and what are they doing to improve the productivity of the employed we also talk about.....nothing....but spout about how bad the situation is....full of wind & water........the lot of them.

Cantona's Collars · 25-07-2010 1:08am

It shouldn't be that hard to find out who doesn't have bins and the reason why.The council have records of customers as do private operators-process of elimination, simple.I know one guy who simply filled his garden until council eventually came and took days to clear it.Imagine living beside that.
It's a great sight greeting visitors to the town,ditches full of rubbish and streets covered in sh1te.Makes you feel proud-not!

Judgement Day · 25-07-2010 8:58am

zerks wrote: »

It shouldn't be that hard to find out who doesn't have bins and the reason why.The council have records of customers as do private operators-process of elimination, simple.I know one guy who simply filled his garden until council eventually came and took days to clear it.Imagine living beside that.
It's a great sight greeting visitors to the town,ditches full of rubbish and streets covered in sh1te.Makes you feel proud-not!

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The house above is one of the first things that greets visitors to the town - whether arriving by road, or walking between the station, Tracey's Hotel and the town centre. Nice!

Plenty more below to help your enjoyment of "Enniscorthy 1500".

http://countywexford.blogspot.com/

Cantona's Collars · 25-07-2010 11:09am

That picture is just a microcosm of the state of the town-the lower half of that building will never be habitable due to it being underwater twice or three times a year-waste of space and target for vandals.
As for 'Scorthy's point about the monument in the Square,the kids hanging around have probably never taken the time to even look up at it never mind know what it symbolises-sad.The council workers can only do what they're told so no point in them showing initiative when the powers that be send them out to do a particular job and no more,too many chiefs imo.
It's all well and good getting artists impressions made up and printed in the press but we never see an end result,even a lick of paint on the buildings would take the depressing look off the town-how about roping in the kids that have nothing else to do,at least then they'd think twice about vandalising something they put time and effort into.
We know theres council members that look at these threads so maybe if we post enough pictures of where work needs doing they might decide to act on it......:(

Judgement Day · 25-07-2010 12:28pm

Here's a thing that even surprises me - coming from a staunchly unionist background - but I find it offensive to the memory of 1798 to see people even sitting on the base on the monument. I'm sure I can get treatment but then again I'm so old now what's the point.

furerer · 25-07-2010 12:55pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

I'm sure I can get treatment but then again I'm so old now what's the point.

Nice one Judgement Day....that made me smile.

gbee · 25-07-2010 1:00pm

Padjo1981 wrote: »

Last week after 3 days of solid rain I saw 5 council workers out watering the plants around the town. Where is the plan behind that? Makes me soooo mad.

Now, not knowing the exact plants, but rain often just runs off and may not penetrate to the soil where it is needed.

But nonetheless, it shows how stupid city managers have their heads in the clouds as badly as any elected officials.

jpb1974 · 25-07-2010 2:29pm

Just in relation to every household having to have a bin:

I say fair enough if you're charged based on the amount of rubbish you generate... but most of these bins have a flat rate charge that isn't fair for the people that go out of their way to produce less rubbish and recycle more.

About 65% of our rubbish goes into Greenstar recycling bags which are collected twice a week.

Glass Bottles and other similar items are disposed in the Bottle Banks around town.

We fill 1 large black bin bag with rubbish about once a fortnight which we then bring to Jimmy Gahan's and pay to dispose it in the disposal unit outside the shop.

This way we only pay based on the amount rubbish we generate. I've no problem paying for a bin but the system needs to be fair.

I'm also aware of other households that split the bin charge because they don't produce enough waste individually so they share the burden.

Cantona's Collars · 25-07-2010 3:03pm

If only everyone was like you-but alas they find it easier to throw the black bags in the ditches along the roads,the other day I saw bags of clothes dumped along the road to Monart Spa,I wouldn't mind but all that needed doing was leave them outside the front door with one of those stickers that arrive in the letterbox twice a week and viola somebody collects them.
Bin companies also do "pay by weight" so if you leave out less rubbish in the bin you pay less.A few hidden cameras in dumping blackspots would show some interesting results.But wait-we can't do that,it would take 2 years of meetings and consultations only to discover it might impinge on some toe-rags human rights.

jpb1974 · 25-07-2010 4:03pm

but alas they find it easier to throw the black bags in the ditches along the roads

Tell me about it... we had a two seater armchair on the roadside out to our house a few months ago.

But wait-we can't do that,it would take 2 years of meetings and consultations only to discover it might impinge on some toe-rags human rights.

They love red tape in this country.

Cantona's Collars · 25-07-2010 7:16pm

Irelands new national sport:mad:

jpb1974 · 26-07-2010 2:27pm

As mentioned in another thread -

Here's some of the gardening handy work compliments of Enniscorthy Town Council.

This used to be pure grass and my father made sure to keep it mowed and generally looking quite well. Now it's full of weeds, empty lager cans and bottles.

Honest to God... have you ever seen anything so ridiculous?

Well done Enniscorthy Town Council... that's all I can say.

furerer · 26-07-2010 5:48pm

Who voted these council members in?

Why are some meetings held behind closed doors? Do we, the public, pay their wages and expenses? If they were a business they would fold.

There is going to come a time when enough is enough and the public are going to have to join together to oust these waste of tax payers money.

Which of the council members voted against Tesco coming to town? were they under pressure by a handful of shop-keepers from town? Think of the jobs that were lost to this crazy decision....whoever voted against Tesco should step down, because the general public wanted Tesco, and a vote against Tesco was a vote against the public.

The pics that are coming onto this thread just shows the tip of the apex, if you start digging further you will see a real problem emerging. I could take countless pics in my vicinity alone of rubbish dumped, and I am but 1.

If any councillors, TD's, etc. read this thread.....then they have to justify their lack of actions to us all........not to come on here anonymously and make a speech of how great we're all doing, or worse still, say nothing.

STAND UP AND BE COUNTED....And answer these citizens.

hop2it · 26-07-2010 8:56pm

zerks wrote: »

Irelands new national sport:mad:

hi zerks
where was that picture taken ???

Cantona's Collars · 26-07-2010 9:26pm

Just one from the 'net,I was only using it to as a demonstration.Nonetheless I've witnessed worse,working in the Dublin mountains the morning routine was pushing burnt out cars off the road with a JCB just to get by.The amount of crap dumped in scenic areas was unreal,a nice memory for the tourists to take home and tell their friends about.
The other day I met a council pick up literally full to bursting with rubbish that had been fly tipped,how much for a few hidden cctv cameras in blackspots-the fines would cover the cost.

furerer · 26-07-2010 9:33pm

little bit naughty that one zerks. Should've put up a pic you had taken yourself in the Enniscorthy/Wexford area. Makes people think we're all making it up. As queen vic would say:
"we are not amused"

Cantona's Collars · 26-07-2010 9:38pm

Next one will be-not like it's gona be hard to find a pile of rubbished dumped somewhere around the place. I never stated that the picture was taken in the county so not misleading anyone-as they say in the ads "images representative of final product";)

Judgement Day · 26-07-2010 9:42pm

Zerks is right about the amount of rubbish being dumped out in the countryside and when I lived about three miles north of Enniscorthy we were always having stuffed dump on our land - even in the gateway to the house!! The community warden was regularly called out.:(

furerer · 27-07-2010 12:02am

Know what you mean. Took a walk with the family yesterday and came across yet another bag of rubbish thrown into the ditch...3 miles out of town funnily enough. The wife has had to ring the council on numerous occasions to get them to collect dumped rubbish....which to their credit, they have.

The nastiest we have come across was a strangled dog thrown into a bag and thrown over a hedge into a field......the mindset of the perpitrator is obviously one of a disturbed individual/s, and this is just one good reason why dumpers must be heavily pursued.

As to the pic from the net....c'mon, lets not use downloaded images, we all know the crap around the country, I'm not against you, but this is the Wexford area thread, so lets try to use pics from this county.....that way the council will have to go to that location to get it cleared. At the end of the day I want to see Enniscorthy cleaned up, and the county. Maybe then we can start to commend the powers-to-be for a quick response. I'm quite willing to let them show us that they can respond to an offence....if they cannot.....then it will be back to giving them a good slagging. Put your pics up and lets see what happens.

P.S. I'm not from the council, and have no association with them

Judgement Day · 27-07-2010 9:10am

This has to be one of the most offensive pieces of neglect in Enniscorthy and I have been highlighting it here for well over a year: http://countywexford.blogspot.com/2009/03/enniscorthy-town-with-no-shame.html

How much would it cost for the council to look after it properly? Apart from the message it gives to our own children what image of the town must it convey to visitors unfortunate enough to wander over from the Riverside Park Hotel?

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Cantona's Collars · 27-07-2010 9:32am

You should see the one in Sean Browne Court-nothing left at all only a hole with broken glass and stones.I think the council gave up on it- as soon as it was fixed it was wrecked again.At least the one at Bellfield/St.Aidans is lit up and in such a public place it puts off the vandals.When I was growing up in the town we would have been delighted to have playgrounds and anyone found damaging them would have had their arses kicked by an adult but you can't do that now.There's a complete lack of respect among a lot of young people today(God I sound ancient) Wait 'til they want to bring kids to playgrounds and parks only to realise that due to their actions previously the facilities no longer exist.

Judgement Day · 27-07-2010 11:17am

Just back from the playground down by the Riverside Park and it's the same, if not worse, than my 2009 photograph. Somebody in the council needs to be sacked over that sort of carry on. If it was a private house/business would the owner let it degenerate into that kind of mess? There is NO excuse - graffiti and other vandalism needs to be dealt with within 24 hours or it sends out the signals to those responsible that nobody cares and they can do what they like.

furerer · 27-07-2010 11:23am

Seems like a petition needs to be started to sack the council manager...would it be possible on boards? Who is the manager anyhow...how did he/she get the position? anyone got a name?

Cantona's Collars · 27-07-2010 12:00pm

http://www.enniscorthy.ie/ec/ContactPersons/
In fairness to Keith Doyle I have witnessed him getting his hands dirty cleaning up rubbish on the streets on numerous occassions,pity more wouldn't follow his lead.A few of 'em seem to obsess with speed ramps-(you know who they are) and contribute little else.
As for the location of the playground down the prom-it's out of sight after hours and thats an attraction for vandals and teenage drinking.I admit in my teenage years myself and friends went drinking in various places around the town but none of us felt the need to wreck the place.The prom is earmarked for redevelopment so maybe some of the problems will be solved there.

Cantona's Collars · 27-07-2010 12:03pm

Website seems a bit out of date-
Playground at Sean Browne Court

" Sprao Linn have constructed a Playground in Sean Browne Court, Enniscorthy for children up to 12 years.
The playground is co-funded by Wexford County Council - the second co-funded venture for the town. It is the third playground in Enniscorthy - following the Promenade and Cluain Dara.
Plans are afoot for an extension to the Playground at the Promenade for older children - ages 12 years upwards. "

Looks like a bomb crater:mad:

jpb1974 · 27-07-2010 12:17pm

Belfield is full of speed ramps... I wonder who lives up there?

Judgement Day · 27-07-2010 12:20pm

zerks wrote: »

http://www.enniscorthy.ie/ec/ContactPersons/
In fairness to Keith Doyle I have witnessed him getting his hands dirty cleaning up rubbish on the streets on numerous occassions,pity more wouldn't follow his lead.A few of 'em seem to obsess with speed ramps-(you know who they are) and contribute little else.
As for the location of the playground down the prom-it's out of sight after hours and thats an attraction for vandals and teenage drinking.I admit in my teenage years myself and friends went drinking in various places around the town but none of us felt the need to wreck the place.The prom is earmarked for redevelopment so maybe some of the problems will be solved there.

It doesn't matter that the playground is out of site, if the graffiti and other vandalism was repaired immediately it would eventually beat the vandals - it is the 'rolling over and giving up before you start' attitude displayed by official bodies throughout Ireland which has the country in its present state.

Cantona's Collars · 27-07-2010 12:56pm

Here's an insight into how the minds of councils work(I know it's in England but the same thing goes on here) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253516/Volunteers-reprimanded-collecting-excessive-rubbish.html
There must be a special manual for councillors on how not to use common sense,initiative or just to be downright ridiculous.Just last year I saw them resurfacing a stretch of road that had been done 6 months previous,it was near the end of the year so budget targets had to be reached so wasting money seemed the logical thing to do instead of paving roads that needed to be done.

furerer · 27-07-2010 1:04pm

Just back from a walk down the road, decided to bring my camera...here's the pics:

jpb1974 · 27-07-2010 1:41pm

Those photos are rubbish furerer

Cantona's Collars · 27-07-2010 1:44pm

Disgraceful-I have 3 bins for waste,compost and recycling and use them all,it's easy.Lift the lid and put stuff in,the lorry comes and picks it up.How come people reckon it's better to simply throw it in a ditch-they even go to the trouble to bag it.

Nialloooo · 27-07-2010 2:00pm

quick question, do you have to go to each counciller in town or is there a way off addressing the town council at a meeting??

Enniscorthy

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