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General Ireland news thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Balbirnie out in 4th over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    105/5 now after 14.3 overs. Wilson in the 30s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    122/6 (16.1) Wilson on 44 now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Wilson out for 44


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    148/7 going into the last over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    156/8 in the end. Better stuff from the lower order with Wilson getting 44 off 32, Adair 24 off 13 and Tector 21 off 20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Netherlands 21/0 after 3 overs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Delaney gets a badly needed wicket 37/1 after 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Good bowling by Ireland has netherlands on 66/4 after 12

    Ryan ten deschote still there though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Netherlands were all out for 126


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Munsey flying in the warm up today. He's on 75 from 36 and Scotland 107/1 after 9


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    187/5 after 17


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Scotland make 210/8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    KOB out first ball. No Stirling today it looks like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Delaney out 20.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    Tector with 2 sixes in that over. 65/2 off 5.

    RR: 13
    Req RR: 9.77

    Gonna be about wickets at this stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    12 off the next over. A pity there's nowhere to watch this it seems as it seems like it's a cracker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Tector out 22 off 9, Wilson out 22 off 14. Run rate is decent but not a lot left to support balbirnie, think the top order may have gone too hard too soon.

    Balbirnie 50 up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Singh out. Nearly 11 an over required now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    60 req from last 5overs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Balbirnie out 70 off 47 and that is that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Thompson out duck. Adair swinging now, surprised he wasn't ahead of Simi Singh in the batting order


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    25 runs off 17th over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    18 needed off 12.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    6 from the last...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    What the hell is happening? The ICC website is all over the place.

    It says we hit a 4 in ball 4 to win but also in balls 5 and 6 were two wickets meaning we were all out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Looks like we won the game in the 4th ball of the last over but played the last two balls anyway

    Superb stuff by Adair at the end there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    BOHtox wrote: »
    What the hell is happening? The ICC website is all over the place.

    It says we hit a 4 in ball 4 to win but also in balls 5 and 6 were two wickets meaning we were all out

    They might have bowled the last couple of balls, and finished the 20 overs happens sometimes in friendlies, this was an 11 a side out of 16 players.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Barney92


    I reckon the 4 given to Adair is a mistake and it was actually a dot. That would explain the run out off the last ball. I'm guessing Scotland won by a run in the end. Great effort by Adair either way though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Barney92 wrote: »
    I reckon the 4 given to Adair is a mistake and it was actually a dot. That would explain the run out off the last ball. I'm guessing Scotland won by a run in the end. Great effort by Adair either way though.

    Looks like this is indeed the case


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  • Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Quintis


    Where does today's result leave us in regards qualification?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 401 ✭✭holidaysong


    We'd qualified already at the weekend by topping our group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Irelands group for t20 world cup is Sri Lanka, Oman and PNG.

    Top two qualify for the super 12 phase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    We play Sri Lanka first then Oman before finishing with PNG


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Balbirnie the new test and ODI captain


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Balbirnie the new test and ODI captain

    Finally, it was about 5 years overdue!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Change was very long overdue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Tim murtagh retires from international cricket


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Balbirnie the new test and ODI captain

    Confirmed t20 Capt today as well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭VillaMad


    Sad to lose Murtagh but it was expected due to his age.

    That is the last now that we will see of a current Irish international playing in English cricket and I wonder about the legalities around it. Ireland was given a two-year grace period from the ECB and after that the player would be seen as an overseas player of which any county could only have one.

    Murtagh and Stirling both have British passports however, so I'm surprised that nobody challenged the ECB about this. You would imagine that it could have been from their point of view and that they shouldn't have had to made such a decision.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    Squad for West Indies ODI and T20 in January.

    https://www.cricketireland.ie/news/article/ireland-mens-squads-announced-for-west-indies-tour

    The squads are:

    ODI squad
    • Andrew Balbirnie (Captain), Mark Adair, Gareth Delany, Andrew McBrine, Barry McCarthy, James McCollum, Kevin O’Brien, William Porterfield, Boyd Rankin, Simi Singh, Paul Stirling, Lorcan Tucker, Gary Wilson, Craig Young.


    T20I squad
    • Andrew Balbirnie (Captain), Mark Adair, Gareth Delany, George Dockrell, Josh Little, Barry McCarthy, Kevin O’Brien, Boyd Rankin, Simi Singh, Paul Stirling, Harry Tector, Lorcan Tucker, Gary Wilson, Craig Young.

    Good to see Josh Little getting a call-up. No David Delany, another interview with him with Cricket Ireland said he's injured, needs to undergo surgery and then he's gonna put his head down for his last semester in college but he's hoping to get central contract after that. 17 players used in total, you'd imagine those 17 plus David Delany will get central contracts with maybe half a dozen development contracts to supplement that.

    https://www.cricketeurope.com/DATABASE/ARTICLES2019/articles/000016/001634.shtml?976


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    KevIRL wrote: »

    Sounds really bad alright.. losing the Test against Bangla is a big blow from a sporting POV.. totally understandable financially of course, but it's incredibly frustrating that after all the effort and success in getting Test cricket, now we can't afford to play it. It's always one step forward, one back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    The Sri Lanka tour next year postponed now as well


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭MrKingsley


    Ah here this is becoming a joke already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,404 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Seems it's not to do with funding per se, but a lack of broadcasting partner: https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2019/1218/1101912-irelands-tour-of-sri-lanka-is-postponed/
    ICC regulations require that all Tests are broadcast and tour was not part of SLC's original broadcast agreement, which was concluded in 2013.

    Cricket Ireland have agreed to SLC's request to reschedule the tour to a later date to ensure that the proposed one-off Test match will come under the next broadcast agreement, which SLC is planning to sign with a prospective partner during the year 2020.

    The date for that rescheduled match will be announced in due course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    I had a long held belief that chasing the test cricket dream was nothing more than an ego trip from the CEO and others, the last two days have proved that.



    Outside of India, England and Australia interest in test cricket is on the wane, and has been for years. How many top players retire from test cricket to focus on white ball cricket? Attendances and TV coverage are down, the public in general want T20 or ODI cricket. Hosting test matches is expensive and crowds don't come through the gate to covet the cost. Look how often traditional nations play tests, it's very rare!



    Despite all the above CI in it's wisdom chased the test dream. It was completely unrealistic. If South Africa and Pakistan with years of cricketing culture can't make test cricket viable how can Ireland, a country where cricket is a minority sport? Where did Duetrom think CI would get the money for the overhaul of infrastructure? The money for a proper domestic competition? The money for players contracts? The ICC were never going to fund all that overnight. Why didn't CI focus all the limited resources on helping the limited overs side continue to grow. Instead resources were stretched too thinly, the fear of using meant youth never got a chance and we've stagnated to the extent several associates have overtaken us. Look at Scotland, they never bothered with the test cricket fantasy, instead they focused on T20 and 50 over cricket and are now better than us.


    Deutrom and co wanted their day in Lords, there was no thought as to how realistic test cricket was for Ireland. We're reaping that today. Two tests cancelled in two days, no idea or plan for when Ireland will ever play a test again? Was that morning at Lords all they wanted?


  • Registered Users Posts: 729 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    dulpit wrote: »
    Seems it's not to do with funding per se, but a lack of broadcasting partner: https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2019/1218/1101912-irelands-tour-of-sri-lanka-is-postponed/



    It's all the same thing. Funding comes from broadcasters. Who would want to pay for an Ireland test match? How many would watch it? No one wants to host Ireland, it would run at a massive loss, why would you. Do you think Sri lanka would cancel England or India. Even Bangladesh with it's cricket mad population are way more appealing as tourists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Are we even a test nation anymore?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭BOHtox


    I had a long held belief that chasing the test cricket dream was nothing more than an ego trip from the CEO and others, the last two days have proved that.



    Outside of India, England and Australia interest in test cricket is on the wane, and has been for years. How many top players retire from test cricket to focus on white ball cricket? Attendances and TV coverage are down, the public in general want T20 or ODI cricket. Hosting test matches is expensive and crowds don't come through the gate to covet the cost. Look how often traditional nations play tests, it's very rare!



    Despite all the above CI in it's wisdom chased the test dream. It was completely unrealistic. If South Africa and Pakistan with years of cricketing culture can't make test cricket viable how can Ireland, a country where cricket is a minority sport? Where did Deutrom think CI would get the money for the overhaul of infrastructure? The money for a proper domestic competition? The money for players contracts? The ICC were never going to fund all that overnight. Why didn't CI focus all the limited resources on helping the limited overs side continue to grow. Instead resources were stretched too thinly, the fear of using meant youth never got a chance and we've stagnated to the extent several associates have overtaken us. Look at Scotland, they never bothered with the test cricket fantasy, instead they focused on T20 and 50 over cricket and are now better than us.


    Deutrom and co wanted their day in Lords, there was no thought as to how realistic test cricket was for Ireland. We're reaping that today. Two tests cancelled in two days, no idea or plan for when Ireland will ever play a test again? Was that morning at Lords all they wanted?


    TBF, I think a lot of that is revisionism. To quote the late Brian Lenihan "We all partied", we all wanted Test Cricket, we all had the optimism to believe Ireland could be a reasonably successful test cricket team. To have a test team that didn't get trounced every time it played, to not lose our best players to England, to have a decent domestic game here etc. Those were and still are the aims.

    There's two issues I can see here in terms of future funding.
    1) Government funding. I'm not sure what it is at the level of funding is atm, but could it be more? The participation has increased massively over the last decade or so, has funding increased in line with that? Can the government help us with a national stadium, facilities for the domestic game, or a subsidy to the national team to allow men and women and boys and girls team to tour and play at an elite level?

    2) A European cricket league. We need a strong domestic game. We need this Euro T20 slam to go ahead. We need it to go broader than that. We need to take the 6 teams that were due to play in it and make a 4-day league where they play each other home and away, and then a one day game where they play a 50 over game, as well as the T20 tournament. Sell TV rights to sky, to Australian TV networks, to sub-continent TV networks. Try sell sponsorship deals. At least this way we could organically raise money for the 3 European nations, apart from England, as well as having tournaments where the elite play the elite on a regular basis.


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