N plate

Specialun · 26-03-2015 9:39pm #1

Maybe im a bit thick but i dont get the thinking behind this

Your either on a learner permt or full license...insurance companies dont recognise it

Drivers behind arnt going to go " oh a N driver I better be careful here" ...shirley if tneyve passed their test fairly and theyre allowed drive on their own whats the issue

Whats your opinion of it....

corner of hells · 26-03-2015 9:41pm

Specialun wrote: »

Maybe im a bit thick but i dont get the thinking behind this

Your either on a learner permt or full license...insurance companies dont recognise it

Drivers behind arnt going to go " oh a N driver I better be careful here" ...shirley if tneyve passed their test fairly and theyre allowed drive on their own whats the issue

Whats your opinion of it....

Shirley ? Don't tell me shes driving.

emo72 · 26-03-2015 9:44pm

I've had my licence many many years now. You've either reached the standard or not. N plates are the dumbest idea.

Little CuChulainn · 26-03-2015 9:46pm

Competency and experience go hand in hand when it comes to safe driving. A test can only ensure you have the former, not the latter.

TallGlass · 26-03-2015 9:47pm

Don't really understand them either. Sorry. I as a full license holder understand the concept, but as a driver I don't understand the fact they've a full licence yet we are told, don't trust them they haven't still got any idea what they are doing. So then I think why have they got a full licence? Like should there be another test to get rid of your n plates?

conorh91 · 26-03-2015 9:49pm

Specialun wrote: »

Drivers behind arnt going to go " oh a N driver I better be careful here"

I would, yeah.

I mean you obviously have to be live to the possibility that any driver could make a stupid manoeuvre, but it seems wise to mark drivers who may be especially inexperienced.

TallGlass wrote: »

we are told, don't trust them they haven't still got any idea what they are doing.

No we're not. We're just told, 'be a little extra vigilant'.

Slicemeister · 26-03-2015 9:50pm

Whacking one off at over 100kph qualifies candidates for a full driving licence. The N is for the nerds who fail that part OP.

zuutroy · 26-03-2015 9:55pm

This is the kind of thing that happens when the administrators rule the world.

AndonHandon · 26-03-2015 10:01pm

N_GGER?

Answer; http://cdn2.cdnme.se/cdn/6-2/1575853/images/2011/nogger_300_149686294.jpg

SEPT 23 1989 · 26-03-2015 10:07pm

Revenue collecting exercise nothing to do with road safety

dmc17 · 26-03-2015 10:08pm

TallGlass wrote: »

Don't really understand them either. Sorry. I as a full license holder understand the concept, but as a driver I don't understand the fact they've a full licence yet we are told, don't trust them they haven't still got any idea what they are doing. So then I think why have they got a full licence? Like should there be another test to get rid of your n plates?

No, what we are told is - even though they've slightly more idea what they're doing, they are still not to be trusted!

It does make sense in a way. Experience is key and just because you had an L plate yesterday and today you've got a full license, it doesn't mean you've developed a whole load of experience overnight.

The Th!ng · 26-03-2015 10:09pm

AndonHandon wrote: »

N_GGER?

Lesbian

Little CuChulainn · 26-03-2015 10:10pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Revenue collecting exercise nothing to do with road safety

What revenue are you referring to?

Desolation Of Smug · 26-03-2015 10:11pm

Load of guff. My E'ldest is driving around on "N" plates, as good a driver as you could meet. The next-door neighbour got his licence when they were handing them out without a test - he's bleedin lethal, not a clue. Arbitrary rules made up by gowls. "Ohh, Ohh, I had an idea, let's make them wear "N" plates...." Feck off.

dr.bollocko · 26-03-2015 10:11pm

we should introduce W plates for all the **** who have a full licence but can't drive around a roundabout correctly, consistently break speed limits, tailgate, park in disabled spaces, stop in hatch junctions, stay in the overtaking lane all the f@cking time, all of that crap. ****.

awec · 26-03-2015 10:11pm

The R plates work pretty well in NI. I'm not sure if the N plates here are exactly the same with regards to lower limits for disqualification etc though.

Most the complaints are from young lads who are just whining that the badge makes their modified heap of sh*te look even worse than it is.

Driving laws down here are awful though in terms of enforcement. Completely useless. I wonder how many people are driving around without a valid full license or even displaying the plate. If you were caught by the PSNI without a valid license or your R plates up you'd be absolutely screwed, whereas down here the guards would probably do fecking nothing.

Call Me Jimmy · 26-03-2015 10:12pm

Should be a 'C' one for Complacent

corner of hells · 26-03-2015 10:13pm

dr.bollocko wrote: »

we should introduce W plates for all the **** who have a full licence but can't drive around a roundabout correctly, consistently break speed limits, tailgate, park in disabled spaces, stop in hatch junctions, stay in the overtaking lane all the f@cking time, all of that crap. ****.

Have you a " doctor on call " badge ?

soc · 26-03-2015 10:13pm

Personally I think it's a good idea... Just because someone passes their driving test, doesn't mean that they've clocked up enough experience behind the wheel - the N plate gives people time to do just that.
That's why the penalty points on the N licence are less than on a full licence.

Desolation Of Smug · 26-03-2015 10:14pm

awec wrote: »

The R plates work pretty well in NI. I'm not sure if the N plates here are exactly the same with regards to lower limits for disqualification etc though.

Most the complaints are from young lads who are just whining that the badge makes their modified heap of sh*te look even worse than it is.

No, the "N" plate has as much impact on other drivers as one of those wodious "Baby On Board" signs. Utter wally-ism.

Infracted · 26-03-2015 10:14pm

awec wrote: »

The R plates work pretty well in NI. I'm not sure if the N plates here are exactly the same with regards to lower limits for disqualification etc though.

Most the complaints are from young lads who are just whining that the badge makes their modified heap of sh*te look even worse than it is.

Driving laws down here are awful though in terms of enforcement. Completely useless. I wonder how many people are driving around without a valid full license or even displaying the plate. If you were caught by the PSNI without a valid license or your R plates up you'd be absolutely screwed, whereas down here the guards would probably do fecking nothing.

R drivers have a lower speed limit.

buried · 26-03-2015 10:15pm

A total racket exercise but that doesnt mean it's a bad idea, it just has to be used in the right societal benifit area. For example, these 'N' plates would work very well if it was mandatory for people who have just turned 18 to wear them on their foreheads when they go to the pubs/nightclubs for 2 years

anncoates · 26-03-2015 10:19pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

What revenue are you referring to?

All the one euros they rake in from the sale of the signs. Probably about six billion a year in my reckoning.

On top of the 100 trillion from speeding fines.

TallGlass · 26-03-2015 10:21pm

No we're not. We're just told, 'be a little extra vigilant'.

Well if we are been honest here Mr Smarty Pants then no one told me anything. I always drive like that anyway I don't need an N plate on a car to tell me, I do it regardless.

Hans Bricks · 26-03-2015 10:22pm

Bureaucratic ****. What kind of special gimp applauds these kind of mickey mouse measures ?

Infracted · 26-03-2015 10:27pm

There should be an O plate for OAPs. The logic used for having such visible plates for Learner Drivers and Novice Drivers can be applied to OAPs. The plate lets other drivers know the type of driver they are dealing with and approach situations differently.

SEPT 23 1989 · 26-03-2015 10:27pm

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Bureaucratic ****. What kind of special gimp applauds these kind of mickey mouse measures ?

a subservient gimp

BlatentCheek · 26-03-2015 10:32pm

I think they were based on stats that showed young drivers to be most prone to fatal accidents in the first 18 months after they qualified.
They don't sound like a bad idea in theory but it's a bit harsh making young drivers jump through ever more exacting hoops while so many older clowns are left free to act the muppet.

TBH I think the whole trend in motor policy is towards greater and greater nanny-statism and they just do it to young drivers because they know older ones won't put up with it. In a few decades I expect self-driving cars to be virtually mandatory. Our children will be conditioned to laugh at petrolhead culture as dangerous lunacy the way we laugh at the prevalence of smoking back in the day.
That's why I make sure to enjoy my driving as much as possible now.

BlatentCheek · 26-03-2015 10:32pm

Infracted wrote: »

There should be an O plate for OAPs. The logic used for having such visible plates for Learner Drivers and Novice Drivers can be applied to OAPs. The plate lets other drivers know the type of driver they are dealing with and approach situations differently.

They vote, in great numbers. Anything that will inconvenience them will never happen.

Desolation Of Smug · 26-03-2015 10:47pm

BlatentCheek wrote: »

They vote, in great numbers. Anything that will inconvenience them will never happen.

Apart from weak bladders...weak bladder syndrome is our revenge..

Benteke · 26-03-2015 10:50pm

Just another way of insurance companies keeping your insurance quote up even after you have passed your test, It's all about money

jimgoose · 26-03-2015 11:50pm

In theory, it's well-and-fine to be able to identify drivers who have demonstrated basic competence but are still inexperienced. In practice however, the place is full of gowls regardless.

anncoates · 27-03-2015 12:03am

BlatentCheek wrote: »

They vote, in great numbers. Anything that will inconvenience them will never happen.

Damn pensioners. Why can they not give suffrage to everybody else?

Cold War Kid · 27-03-2015 12:07am

It just means the driver has only just passed their test and is only starting to drive unaccompanied. I genuinely don't see the problem?

TPD · 27-03-2015 12:07am

I passed my test last month and have the n plates up. I don't see the big deal really - I'm not planning to get any points so the lower limit shouldn't affect me, and I wouldn't have a drink if I might be driving so that lower limit shouldn't affect me either. I'd hope that seeing a white square with a red letter in it may cause people to instinctively give me a bit more space.

CarpeDiem85 · 27-03-2015 12:09am

It's like an episode of Countdown on the back of the car, so many letters.

rubadub · 27-03-2015 12:30am

Specialun wrote: »

Drivers behind arnt going to go " oh a N driver I better be careful here"

I do, less than L drivers but I would certainly take notice. I have heard of people leaving their L plates up for some time after passing their test. In all sorts of situations I would take more care if I knew the person was only newly qualified to do whatever it is they are doing.

thelad95 · 27-03-2015 12:35am

I agree with the concept, but two years is far too long. 6 months would be fair enough. Surely, by that stage they're competent and confident enough to not have an explicit warning sign on their car.

Cold War Kid · 27-03-2015 12:36am

thelad95 wrote: »

I agree with the concept, but two years is far too long. 6 months would be fair enough. Surely, by that stage they're competent and confident enough to not have an explicit warning sign on their car.

That's true. The sign I don't see an issue with, the two years seems two long all right though.

Zippie84 · 27-03-2015 12:55am

Specialun wrote: »

Whats your opinion of it....

No opinion of it, as have no idea what you're talking about tbh...

shruikan2553 · 27-03-2015 1:31am

Dont really see the point. As someone else said they're about as useful as the baby on board stickers.

As soon as I get my licence Im not planning on driving unless absolutely necessary. Cant wait to be years out of practice but deemed to be no longer a novice.

stimpson · 27-03-2015 9:28am

dr.bollocko wrote: »

we should introduce W plates for all the **** who have a full licence but can't drive around a roundabout correctly, consistently break speed limits, tailgate, park in disabled spaces, stop in hatch junctions, stay in the overtaking lane all the f@cking time, all of that crap. ****.

We do have W badges to denote ****. They are preceded by B and M badges.

Zombienosh · 27-03-2015 9:33am

dr.bollocko wrote: »

we should introduce W plates for all the **** who have a full licence but can't drive around a roundabout correctly, consistently break speed limits, tailgate, park in disabled spaces, stop in hatch junctions, stay in the overtaking lane all the f@cking time, all of that crap. ****.

I was only saying this the other day, Imagine if after someone gets a certain amount of points or is caught doing something really wreckless, they get a tag or specially coloured license plate so other drivers will know they're a pr!ck and to be cautious.

jimgoose · 27-03-2015 9:34am

Zombienosh wrote: »

I was only saying this the other day, Imagine if after someone gets a certain amount of points or is caught doing something really wreckless, they get a plate or specially coloured license plate and everyone will know they're a pr!ck

I suggest a "K" plate, for "Knobjockey"!

AnonoBoy · 27-03-2015 9:39am

Desolation Of Smug wrote: »

No, the "N" plate has as much impact on other drivers as one of those wodious "Baby On Board" signs. Utter wally-ism.

Baby on board signs can serve a purpose though. In an accident they could tell emergency services that there is a child in the car which they might not see from outside otherwise.

jimgoose · 27-03-2015 9:39am

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Baby on board signs can serve a purpose though. In an accident they could tell emergency services that there is a child in the car which they might not see from outside otherwise.

This one is trotted out regularly, and it is complete nonsense. An urban myth.

AnonoBoy · 27-03-2015 9:42am

jimgoose wrote: »

This one is trotted out regularly, and it is complete nonsense. An urban myth.

Perhaps it's never warned emergency services ever but I don't think you know what an urban myth is.

irelandrover · 27-03-2015 9:42am

thelad95 wrote: »

I agree with the concept, but two years is far too long. 6 months would be fair enough. Surely, by that stage they're competent and confident enough to not have an explicit warning sign on their car.

I dont think that 6 months is long enough to be honest. Although I got my license in Holland and its 5 years of a lower limit and the possibility of points.

jimgoose · 27-03-2015 9:44am

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Perhaps it's never warned emergency services ever but I don't think you know what an urban myth is.

Oh for the luvva Jaysis: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/parental/babysign.asp

frash · 27-03-2015 9:45am

I just assume that every other driver is a muppet about to do something stupid - N plate or not

Best to err on the safe side

AnonoBoy · 27-03-2015 9:48am

jimgoose wrote: »

Oh for the luvva Jaysis: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/parental/babysign.asp

The myth in that case is the origin of the sign. Not whether the sign could warn purple about the presence of a child.

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