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  • 26-03-2015 9:39pm
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    Specialun
    Registered Users Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭


    Maybe im a bit thick but i dont get the thinking behind this

    Your either on a learner permt or full license...insurance companies dont recognise it

    Drivers behind arnt going to go " oh a N driver I better be careful here" ...shirley if tneyve passed their test fairly and theyre allowed drive on their own whats the issue

    Whats your opinion of it....


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    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Specialun wrote: »
    Maybe im a bit thick but i dont get the thinking behind this

    Your either on a learner permt or full license...insurance companies dont recognise it

    Drivers behind arnt going to go " oh a N driver I better be careful here" ...shirley if tneyve passed their test fairly and theyre allowed drive on their own whats the issue

    Whats your opinion of it....

    Shirley ? Don't tell me shes driving.


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    emo72
    Registered Users Posts: 6,222 ✭✭✭emo72


    I've had my licence many many years now. You've either reached the standard or not. N plates are the dumbest idea.


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    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Competency and experience go hand in hand when it comes to safe driving. A test can only ensure you have the former, not the latter.


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    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Don't really understand them either. Sorry. I as a full license holder understand the concept, but as a driver I don't understand the fact they've a full licence yet we are told, don't trust them they haven't still got any idea what they are doing. So then I think why have they got a full licence? Like should there be another test to get rid of your n plates?


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    conorh91
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭conorh91


    Specialun wrote: »
    Drivers behind arnt going to go " oh a N driver I better be careful here"
    I would, yeah.

    I mean you obviously have to be live to the possibility that any driver could make a stupid manoeuvre, but it seems wise to mark drivers who may be especially inexperienced.
    TallGlass wrote: »
    we are told, don't trust them they haven't still got any idea what they are doing.
    No we're not. We're just told, 'be a little extra vigilant'.


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    Slicemeister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Slicemeister


    Whacking one off at over 100kph qualifies candidates for a full driving licence. The N is for the nerds who fail that part OP.


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    zuutroy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    This is the kind of thing that happens when the administrators rule the world.


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    AndonHandon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    N_GGER?

    Answer; http://cdn2.cdnme.se/cdn/6-2/1575853/images/2011/nogger_300_149686294.jpg


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    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Revenue collecting exercise nothing to do with road safety


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    dmc17
    Registered Users Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭dmc17


    TallGlass wrote: »
    Don't really understand them either. Sorry. I as a full license holder understand the concept, but as a driver I don't understand the fact they've a full licence yet we are told, don't trust them they haven't still got any idea what they are doing. So then I think why have they got a full licence? Like should there be another test to get rid of your n plates?

    No, what we are told is - even though they've slightly more idea what they're doing, they are still not to be trusted!

    It does make sense in a way. Experience is key and just because you had an L plate yesterday and today you've got a full license, it doesn't mean you've developed a whole load of experience overnight.


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    The Th!ng
    Registered Users Posts: 464 ✭✭The Th!ng


    AndonHandon wrote: »
    N_GGER?

    Lesbian


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    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Revenue collecting exercise nothing to do with road safety

    What revenue are you referring to?


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    Desolation Of Smug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Desolation Of Smug


    Load of guff. My E'ldest is driving around on "N" plates, as good a driver as you could meet. The next-door neighbour got his licence when they were handing them out without a test - he's bleedin lethal, not a clue. Arbitrary rules made up by gowls. "Ohh, Ohh, I had an idea, let's make them wear "N" plates...." Feck off.


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    dr.bollocko
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    we should introduce W plates for all the **** who have a full licence but can't drive around a roundabout correctly, consistently break speed limits, tailgate, park in disabled spaces, stop in hatch junctions, stay in the overtaking lane all the f@cking time, all of that crap. ****.


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    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,468 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The R plates work pretty well in NI. I'm not sure if the N plates here are exactly the same with regards to lower limits for disqualification etc though.

    Most the complaints are from young lads who are just whining that the badge makes their modified heap of sh*te look even worse than it is.

    Driving laws down here are awful though in terms of enforcement. Completely useless. I wonder how many people are driving around without a valid full license or even displaying the plate. If you were caught by the PSNI without a valid license or your R plates up you'd be absolutely screwed, whereas down here the guards would probably do fecking nothing.


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    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Should be a 'C' one for Complacent


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    #18
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    dr.bollocko wrote: »
    we should introduce W plates for all the **** who have a full licence but can't drive around a roundabout correctly, consistently break speed limits, tailgate, park in disabled spaces, stop in hatch junctions, stay in the overtaking lane all the f@cking time, all of that crap. ****.

    Have you a " doctor on call " badge ?


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    soc
    Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭soc


    Personally I think it's a good idea... Just because someone passes their driving test, doesn't mean that they've clocked up enough experience behind the wheel - the N plate gives people time to do just that.
    That's why the penalty points on the N licence are less than on a full licence.


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    Desolation Of Smug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Desolation Of Smug


    awec wrote: »
    The R plates work pretty well in NI. I'm not sure if the N plates here are exactly the same with regards to lower limits for disqualification etc though.

    Most the complaints are from young lads who are just whining that the badge makes their modified heap of sh*te look even worse than it is.

    No, the "N" plate has as much impact on other drivers as one of those wodious "Baby On Board" signs. Utter wally-ism.


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    Infracted
    Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Infracted


    awec wrote: »
    The R plates work pretty well in NI. I'm not sure if the N plates here are exactly the same with regards to lower limits for disqualification etc though.

    Most the complaints are from young lads who are just whining that the badge makes their modified heap of sh*te look even worse than it is.

    Driving laws down here are awful though in terms of enforcement. Completely useless. I wonder how many people are driving around without a valid full license or even displaying the plate. If you were caught by the PSNI without a valid license or your R plates up you'd be absolutely screwed, whereas down here the guards would probably do fecking nothing.

    R drivers have a lower speed limit.


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    #22
    buried
    Registered Users Posts: 9,691 ✭✭✭buried


    A total racket exercise but that doesnt mean it's a bad idea, it just has to be used in the right societal benifit area. For example, these 'N' plates would work very well if it was mandatory for people who have just turned 18 to wear them on their foreheads when they go to the pubs/nightclubs for 2 years

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



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    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    What revenue are you referring to?

    All the one euros they rake in from the sale of the signs. Probably about six billion a year in my reckoning.

    On top of the 100 trillion from speeding fines.


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    #24
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    No we're not. We're just told, 'be a little extra vigilant'.

    Well if we are been honest here Mr Smarty Pants then no one told me anything. I always drive like that anyway I don't need an N plate on a car to tell me, I do it regardless.


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    Hans Bricks
    Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    Bureaucratic ****. What kind of special gimp applauds these kind of mickey mouse measures ?


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    Infracted
    Closed Accounts Posts: 89 ✭✭Infracted


    There should be an O plate for OAPs. The logic used for having such visible plates for Learner Drivers and Novice Drivers can be applied to OAPs. The plate lets other drivers know the type of driver they are dealing with and approach situations differently.


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    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Hans Bricks wrote: »
    Bureaucratic ****. What kind of special gimp applauds these kind of mickey mouse measures ?

    a subservient gimp


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    BlatentCheek
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    I think they were based on stats that showed young drivers to be most prone to fatal accidents in the first 18 months after they qualified.
    They don't sound like a bad idea in theory but it's a bit harsh making young drivers jump through ever more exacting hoops while so many older clowns are left free to act the muppet.

    TBH I think the whole trend in motor policy is towards greater and greater nanny-statism and they just do it to young drivers because they know older ones won't put up with it. In a few decades I expect self-driving cars to be virtually mandatory. Our children will be conditioned to laugh at petrolhead culture as dangerous lunacy the way we laugh at the prevalence of smoking back in the day.
    That's why I make sure to enjoy my driving as much as possible now.


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    BlatentCheek
    Registered Users Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    Infracted wrote: »
    There should be an O plate for OAPs. The logic used for having such visible plates for Learner Drivers and Novice Drivers can be applied to OAPs. The plate lets other drivers know the type of driver they are dealing with and approach situations differently.

    They vote, in great numbers. Anything that will inconvenience them will never happen.


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    Desolation Of Smug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Desolation Of Smug


    BlatentCheek wrote: »
    They vote, in great numbers. Anything that will inconvenience them will never happen.

    Apart from weak bladders...weak bladder syndrome is our revenge..


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    #31
    Benteke
    Registered Users Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    Just another way of insurance companies keeping your insurance quote up even after you have passed your test, It's all about money


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