Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

Beechwoodspark · 12-12-2019 9:01pm

Plenty of rain falling in blessington at the moment.

appledrop · 12-12-2019 9:41pm

Torrential rain here in North County Dublin for last two hours.

Goldfinch8 · 12-12-2019 10:04pm

While there has been some torrential and fairly miserable showers here in Mayo today, I really love the way the moon lights up the the tops of the incoming shower clouds from the west tonight. Quite stunning really.

12-12-2019 10:24pm

Nice winter halo visible last night

Graces7 · 13-12-2019 7:02am

Goldfinch8 wrote: »

While there has been some torrential and fairly miserable showers here in Mayo today, I really love the way the moon lights up the the tops of the incoming shower clouds from the west tonight. Quite stunning really.

Sounds lovely; I cannot get out of my door to see it! So thank you.

Goldfinch8 · 13-12-2019 7:40am

The night ended up belonging to the wind and continuous showers here. Fairly wild here this morning in the west. Glad you got the supplies in yesterday Grace's 7 as it does not seem like a ferry day here in Mayo today! Stay warm and hunkered down out there.
Looking forward to seeing what surprises the weekend may have in store weather wise for the country. As ever with potential snow, it will be a lucky dip for someone and opportunities missed for others. And of course there will be those quite happy not to see it at all. Let's see how it pans out.

Graces7 · 13-12-2019 8:37am

Goldfinch8 wrote: »

While there has been some torrential and fairly miserable showers here in Mayo today, I really love the way the moon lights up the the tops of the incoming shower clouds from the west tonight. Quite stunning really.

Ah bliss! I had the door ajar ( held by old dog lead) and there was a huge, huge moon, between the clouds . halo and all! Utter glorious beauty

M.T. Cranium · 13-12-2019 8:41am

This winter is looking rather depressingly similar to 2013-14 and that only got more and more stormy as December turned to January. Darwin came along on the 12th of February.

There does not appear to be much tendency towards either blocking or easterly flow anywhere at the moment. The preferred escape route for arctic air is central North America (which was true in 2013-14 the first of the two so-called polar vortex winters there).

Oh well, if it must be stormy, then stay safe and enjoy the ride.

Graces7 · 13-12-2019 9:21am

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

This winter is looking rather depressingly similar to 2013-14 and that only got more and more stormy as December turned to January. Darwin came along on the 12th of February.

There does not appear to be much tendency towards either blocking or easterly flow anywhere at the moment. The preferred escape route for arctic air is central North America (which was true in 2013-14 the first of the two so-called polar vortex winters there).

Oh well, if it must be stormy, then stay safe and endure the ride.

Fixed your post

Elmer Blooker · 13-12-2019 11:40am

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

I've been thinking the same lately as the current set up is very similar to December 1978 ....

^ 15/11. Still reminding me of Dec 1978 after that anticyclonic interlude about two weeks ago when there were worrying signs of a Euro high becoming established but thankfully it didn't happen!
Not making a long range but I think there is a very good chance of northern blocking later in the month.

Elmer Blooker · 13-12-2019 11:53am

PS. When you consider that we haven't seen northern blocking during a winter month for NINE years this is a very encouraging chart if you ask me.

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Xenji · 13-12-2019 2:43pm

Status Yellow - Wind warning for Donegal
Strong westerly winds Friday night and for a time Saturday. Mean speeds 50 to 65 km/h gusting to 90 to 110 km/h with a risk of stronger winds at the coasts.

Valid: 17:00 Friday 13/12/2019 to 17:00 Saturday 14/12/2019

Issued: 13:00 Friday 13/12/2019

BLIZZARD7 · 13-12-2019 3:06pm

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

PS. When you consider that we haven't seen northern blocking during a winter month for NINE years this is a very encouraging chart if you ask me.

Not strictly true now... a recent example, albeit late in the season.

Graces7 · 13-12-2019 3:29pm

Wild wet windy... not often I say this but a miserable old day! watching a neighbour checking his distant field in yellow luminous jacket.. sound of wind, rain and tide.. fire lit and burning well...

West Mayo offshore

Gonzo · 13-12-2019 3:52pm

the next 6 days look cold with showers or rain/sleet in places, possible hill snow. Milder with south-westerlies from about the 20th of December and very wet up to Christmas Day. After Christmas remains very much up in the air. There is a slight chance of something much colder happening right after Christmas.

Logan Roy · 13-12-2019 3:53pm

Ah yes, those famously accurate 168 Hour + charts

Gonzo · 13-12-2019 4:00pm

Logan Roy wrote: »

Ah yes, those famously accurate 168 Hour + charts

they can be inaccurate but sometimes can give a good indication of whats to come. It seems fairly believable that the unsettled theme will continue for the time being with a very active Atlantic since September and very weak signals of northern blocking.

Mortelaro · 13-12-2019 5:52pm

Gonzo wrote: »

they can be inaccurate but sometimes can give a good indication of whats to come. It seems fairly believable that the unsettled theme will continue for the time being with a very active Atlantic since September and very weak signals of northern blocking.

You don't need northern blocking for the Atlantic to settle down
A bloated Bartlett high would do it :pac:

Donegal Storm · 13-12-2019 7:01pm

No idea what thread we're supposed to be posting in at the moment but a cold wet evening in Letterkenny with showers turning increasingly sleety, some nice big snowflakes splattering on the windscreen on the drive home

Graces7 · 13-12-2019 8:49pm

Dratted hailiboy shower on the metal roof.... Was just dropping off... At least snow would be quiet..

West Mayo. offshore island

igCorcaigh · 13-12-2019 9:02pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Dratted hailiboy shower on the metal roof.... Was just dropping off... At least snow would be quiet..

West Mayo. offshore island

Oh I love the sound of hail!
Metal roof is all the better.

Oscar Bravo · 13-12-2019 9:19pm

Heavy hail shower here in Castlebar belting off the windows

Tom Cruises Left Nut · 14-12-2019 11:22am

Wet snow shower in Sallins a while ago

Oscar Bravo · 14-12-2019 1:27pm

A better day than expected here in Castlebar.mostly dry, cool breeze but ground is dry. 6 degrees

km79 · 14-12-2019 1:28pm

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

A better day than expected here in Castlebar.mostly dry, cool breeze but ground is dry. 6 degrees

The sheets will be dry in an hour on the line !

Graces7 · 14-12-2019 2:41pm

km79 wrote: »

The sheets will be dry in an hour on the line !

..if they stay on the line...

Gonzo · 15-12-2019 8:31pm

interesting video this evening by Gav.

Basically there may be hints of a pattern change which could start to happen after Christmas. The AO/NAO may go from positive to negative and the Beijing Climate Center wants to introduce strong northern blocking for January.

This in no way guarantee's cold for us but I would really welcome a pattern change, like most people i'm completely fed up with all the rain of the past 3/4 months and would love to see the Atlantic shutting down for a few weeks minimum. This could lead to us to something colder and also dryer as we head into the new year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhp1_s1P9r8

nacho libre · 15-12-2019 8:41pm

Gonzo wrote: »

interesting video this evening by Gav.

Basically there may be hints of a pattern change which could start to happen after Christmas. The AO/NAO may go from positive to negative and the Beijing Climate Center wants to introduce strong northern blocking for January.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhp1_s1P9r8

I think the Beijing Climate Center has been out on its own predicting blocking for our locale this winter, so kudos to them if it does indeed happen.

Graces7 · 16-12-2019 5:36am

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Oh I love the sound of hail!
Metal roof is all the better.

Not when you are fast asleep :eek::(:(

Graces7 · 16-12-2019 5:38am

Gonzo wrote: »

interesting video this evening by Gav.

Basically there may be hints of a pattern change which could start to happen after Christmas. The AO/NAO may go from positive to negative and the Beijing Climate Center wants to introduce strong northern blocking for January.

This in no way guarantee's cold for us but I would really welcome a pattern change, like most people i'm completely fed up with all the rain of the past 3/4 months and would love to see the Atlantic shutting down for a few weeks minimum. This could lead to us to something colder and also dryer as we head into the new year.

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Is it not cold enough for you now! Crazy people... sitting here abed all but fully dressed and still shivering

Rock Lesnar · 16-12-2019 9:54am

Cold, clear, sunny but frosty in meath this morning, seemed to catch a couple of people out as theres a couple of cars in the ditch along the road

Graces7 · 16-12-2019 10:05am

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Cold, clear, sunny but frosty in meath this morning, seemed to catch a couple of people out as theres a couple of cars in the ditch along the road

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Oh dear! Hope everyone is OK

dark and dank and still here. wet too :rolleyes:

west mayo offshore island

Gonzo · 16-12-2019 1:20pm

Graces7 wrote: »

Gonzo wrote: »

interesting video this evening by Gav.

Is it not cold enough for you now! Crazy people... sitting here abed all but fully dressed and still shivering

The cold we have had since November is just an annoying cold that doesn't really deliver anything worthwhile. Cold zonal weather often leads to the feeling of real chill, bone shaking damp winds and cold rain which is really not enjoyable. I find if you get a cold easterly, it can be much colder in terms of temperature but the real feel may not feel as chilly, especially if it's a dry easterly with crisp, sunny and frosty conditions, it can even be quite pleasant. Even snowy days from an easterly can often not feel as chilly as a zonal based cold weather and you get the benefit of seeing some beautiful winter postcard scenes around.

Gonzo · 16-12-2019 1:41pm

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2 more dry days to go and then we are back to square one in terms of rainfall. Milder and very unsettled from Wednesday. Those rainfall spikes look worrying as the land here hasn't really had a chance to properly dry out from the deluges of the past 3 months. It wouldn't take many wet days to bring back the risk of flooding.

Towards the end of the run we see alot of scatter in terms of temperatures, most are mild but there are a few outlying cold runs which almost get us into the freezer as we head towards New Years Day.

The rainfall also looks like it will ease a little after Christmas. From Wednesday to Christmas Day looks like a very wet spell indeed. Hopefully we will see the situation after Christmas evolve into a dryer and colder scene.

I said yesterday I am totally up for a major pattern change which could hopefully bring an end to this incredibly wet and prolonged wet spell. The Atlantic has been raging since mid September with very little let up, I remain hopeful that it will run out of steam during January or February.

Graces7 · 16-12-2019 2:30pm

Gonzo wrote: »

Graces7 wrote: »

The cold we have had since November is just an annoying cold that doesn't really deliver anything worthwhile. Cold zonal weather often leads to the feeling of real chill, bone shaking damp winds and cold rain which is really not enjoyable. I find if you get a cold easterly, it can be much colder in terms of temperature but the real feel may not feel as chilly, especially if it's a dry easterly with crisp, sunny and frosty conditions, it can even be quite pleasant. Even snowy days from an easterly can often not feel as chilly as a zonal based cold weather and you get the benefit of seeing some beautiful winter postcard scenes around.

Hmmmm cold is cold is cold...and this is cold.. maybe in the experience of the person. but cold here

Graces7 · 16-12-2019 2:32pm

Heavy deluging rain. Dark... drab

Oneiric 3 · 16-12-2019 4:19pm

Encouraging signals on the long-term ECMWF this morning that we could be seeing some nice, drizzly, humidity saturated warmth as we head into January. And with the added bonus of not having any Winter storms, or even anything of slightest meteorological interest, to concern ourselves with:

More runs needed, but the signals are looking good.

SleetAndSnow · 16-12-2019 5:20pm

Strange day in cork city. While the stations say 5 degrees etc, my house received no sunlight today (north facing + low winter sun) so theres still frost on my roof + in the garden. Garden thermo says its about 0-1 degrees + some slippy footpaths outside

Gonzo · 16-12-2019 5:21pm

the long range models have been signaling a dire winter season filled with mild muck for quite some time now. let's hope they are wrong and fail to the same extent as last winters long range models.

Mortelaro · 16-12-2019 5:32pm

Frost hung around all day here in Arklow

Hooter23 · 16-12-2019 6:52pm

January has some of the most boring weather sometimes...which is surprising as its the middle of winter

Donegal Storm · 16-12-2019 7:26pm

Hooter23 wrote: »

January has some of the most boring weather sometimes...which is surprising as its the middle of winter

Most/all months tend to be extremely boring in this country, hence why we get 100+ page threads every time it gets a bit breezy or chilly

The_Brood · 16-12-2019 7:57pm

highdef wrote: »

Where in Dublin is it -5c? I highly doubt that anywhere in Dublin is even at or within a degree or two of 0c. I'm about 40km West of Dublin city, in a rural area and in a frost hollow and my temperature is barely below 0c.

With the windchill it is definitely below 0. Has been so for several weeks. Not cold enough in the atmosphere to snow, but on the ground, in the wind, it is absolutely deadly.

2019 has been an astonishingly horrible year weather-wise. Hoping 2020 is a sweltering tropical paradise in order to balance the scales a little but. Which isn't going to happen.

SleetAndSnow · 16-12-2019 8:24pm

Footpaths sparkling in the lights and cars all frosted over in my estate in Cork city this evening.

Mortelaro · 16-12-2019 8:46pm

0.3c in Arklow currently
Sw breeze at 8 to 10kmh

ZX7R · 16-12-2019 9:04pm

Wonder could fog be a problem tonight

SeaBreezes · 16-12-2019 9:33pm

-1 Kinsale coast ATM

Itssoeasy · 16-12-2019 9:55pm

The roads and footpaths an hour ago had that unsettling shiny look. I went for a walk but didn’t go that far and avoided hills(which is a skill on the north side of cork city)

Mortelaro · 16-12-2019 10:01pm

https://www.tiitraffic.ie/weather/

The vast majority of road stations are above zero to well above zero
Except Arklow, Enniscorthy, and those in Waterford and Cork

-1.4c here in Arklow at the moment

Kutebride · 16-12-2019 10:01pm

Gritters out Meath CC.
Got off the bus earlier and very slippy on paths.
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