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08-11-2018, 20:33   #1
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Over-priced consumer technology?

Following on from the "scared of technology" thread. When you look at the technology companies from a common consumer point of view, are they actually producing much of worth at all, or is it all an emperors new clothes scam?

Email was a fantastic enhancement to everyday life. The general internet, not so much.

Mobile phones were a fantastic enhancement to everyday communication. The apple iPhone 600000000000, not so much. The iterations are practically negligible, but still costing 6/7/800 quid for the "latest"? Nah.

Google/facebook/Instagram/twitter, all companies that, when you strip it to bare economic basics, are gloried advertising companies. Somehow they are "worth" billions and trillions, despite producing sweet FA in reality.

Computers/laptops/operating systems, their utility for the average person peaked like 10 years ago, everything since then has been 1 step forward, 1 step back ad infinitum. A joke to maintain their prices. Now you can load a webpage in 0.001 seconds instead of 0.002 seconds. Wow, let me give you another 600 euro for that life-altering thing! An average, capable laptop should be around the hundred euro mark by now, IMO.

Consumer technologies, generally, have to be the most over-hyped products going, to a ridiculous degree. Are there any exceptions were these things are actually justifying their prices over time? Should people start screaming about the emperor being in the pure nip?

Edit: I see the guts of the thread has devolved into my phone versus your phone. Maybe that says it all!

Edit 2: Now with added poll-a-thon technology. To be worthy of such innovation and improvement to life will cost 800 euro. Next year? We're adding sidewards polls for the life-improving price of 800 euro. That's right, bar graphs that go from left to right, not just up and down! Who are you to resist it?

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Televisions, generally, have become cheaper over time. You can see companies trying to inject new (useless) angles like 3d, 4k, 8k, etc. But nobody seems to want them, hence the price direction.

How have the other technologies managed to swindle people?
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Want - buy.
Don't want - don't buy.

I feel the same about holidays and numerous other things but the reality is that it doesn't matter when nobody is forcing you to spend your money.
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Televisions, generally, have become cheaper over time. You can see companies trying to inject new (useless) angles like 3d, 4k, 8k, etc. But nobody seems to want them, hence the price direction.

How have the other technologies managed to swindle people?
Eh... 4k useless? LOL

4K is the only tv people buy these days.
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Anything Apple TBH. They used to offer a point fo difference, albeit at a cost, now the stuff is poorly designed muck they're rightly getting reamed by the right to repair laws coming into the States.

HTC Vive - over priced for what it does.

nVidia in the PC market being let run riot. Intel up until recently - although they still can't keep up with demand.

As for most other things there's a cheapo alternative available that may or may not be decent value for money.
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Anything Apple TBH. They used to offer a point fo difference, albeit at a cost, now the stuff is poorly designed muck they're rightly getting reamed by the right to repair laws coming into the States.

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Absolute and utter nonsense. Apple products are expensive but they are superior. I wouldn’t touch an android phone or a windows laptop.

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A bit of research will give most people value and quality.

I actually buy Moto Gs (was Motorola, Google and now Lenovo). Cracking phones for the price and do exactly what I need.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/motorola-5-...eywords=moto+g
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Absolute and utter nonsense. Apple products are far superior.

LOL bollocks. At best they're in a nice box, they've had endless issues with design in the last few years. Then they try and make you repair through themselves, that's even if they'll do the repair. They've never been better, just different. Now they're 'different' in all the wrong ways just using off the shelf tech for double the price. And for some reason the fanbois keep trying to defend their anti-consumer nonsense.
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You tube is the one that can stay

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Eh... 4k useless? LOL

4K is the only tv people buy these days.
Not sure I'd agree with this "fact", any figures to back it up? 4k TV is useless to the huge amount of people that don't have a 4k source to play on them.
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Eh... 4k useless? LOL

4K is the only tv people buy these days.
So, you just bought one, in other words

I have the same television for nearly 6 years now. Absolutely perfect. Every now and then I'll have a gander round the shops, have a good look at the tvs on display. Tempted to get a new one, then come back down to reality.

If mine broke today, I would be more than happy to spend the price-adjusted amount to buy the same model, say, probably 200 quid by now. But looking at all this "amazing" difference with the likes of 4K (bearing in mind 4k sources are very few and far between)....at those prices? Nah, people are 1) being robbed of choice, 2) being fooled.

Yeah those things are nice. But not nearly worth it.
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Decent 4K HDR TV's - given the right source - are far superior. It's like anything though to most a €25 bottle of Moet will taste just as good as a €500 bottle of Dom Pérignon.
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I wouldn’t touch an android phone or a windows laptop.
Galaxy s9 and the new Google pixel phone are deemed to be better than the latest iPhone.

I find the iPhone to be behind Android tbh. User ease isn't as good. Remember apple making a big fuss that you could slide right on someone's contact to call them or swipe left to text....eh you could do that on Android for ages!!

Samsung looking at introducing a foldable screen next year....Apple will probably make a big song and dance out of this technology when they release it in 2026.
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Absolute and utter nonsense. Apple products are expensive but they are superior. I wouldn’t touch an android phone or a windows laptop.
That might be true if you're comparing the Apple products to cheaper windows/android alternatives. If you get an android/windows product for the same price as an apple one, you'll get a far better product.
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LOL bollocks. At best they're in a nice box, they've had endless issues with design in the last few years. Then they try and make you repair through themselves, that's even if they'll do the repair. They've never been better, just different. Now they're 'different' in all the wrong ways just using off the shelf tech for double the price. And for some reason the fanbois keep trying to defend their anti-consumer nonsense.
You haven’t a clue, a MacBook is miles ahead of any windows laptop that are uslesless after a no time macs last for years more same for iPhones far far better designed, better made and much better software as the software and hardware integration is vastly better than android and the million phone makes that use it.

The resale value of a few years old Mac or iPhone just shows they last.

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That might be true if you're comparing the Apple products to cheaper windows/android alternatives. If you get an android/windows product for the same price as an apple one, you'll get a far better product.
You won’t.

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