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King Of Fighters XIII discussion thread

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  • #152
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Scavenger XIII wrote: »
    You're quite right you won't see many streams and big tournaments for those games, which reinforces my point.

    SF4 revived Street Fighter, other fighting franchises were hanging in there with their handful of dedicated fans and they aren't much better off now.

    Except Mortal Kombat and Marvel sold bucket loads, and there's more releases in the next year than probably since the ninties, and all those fighting games appear on the streams that Sf tends to headline.

    Again even locally, look at CxC and Day of Champions. Multi event tournaments with SF involved.

    Off the top of my head I have spent money on hundreds of FGs, but I would have spent zero and probably would still be spending zero if not for the influence of SF.


  • #153
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »
    Or people who prefer actually playing, over watching others play.

    Which is provided in Spectator mode.

    SSFIV has two separate ways to play one on one.

    Ranked (esp w/ fight request)

    or

    Casual in a 2 man lobby.


  • #154
    Yreval
    Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Yreval


    Some Flame Iori combos.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQdl96GSyk


    And for those of you not going to CXC3, there'll be a stream here from 3pm tomorrow.


  • #155
    Scavenger XIII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    Fair enough it has given them mainstream attention again which is helping sales, but does selling loads of MK an MvC to casuals while only SF4 gets any amount of serious play constitute reviving the genre?

    Honestly it's helped a bit but I think the benefit to other games is really overstated.

    On Topic: KoF, **** yea.


  • #156
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Scavenger XIII wrote: »
    Fair enough it has given them mainstream attention again which is helping sales, but does selling loads of MK an MvC to casuals while only SF4 gets any amount of serious play constitute reviving the genre?
    Now you're just being blind.
    Or a Japanophile.


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  • #157
    D4RK ONION
    Moderators Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭D4RK ONION


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    It was also, you know, the game that brought fighting games back from the edge and facilitated the existence of games like KoFXIII as a proof of concept.

    I think you misunderstood my post. I was only saying the reason vanilla didn't have spectator mode was because it only had 2 player lobbies. I loved 2 player lobbies. I still hate anything more than 2 people in a lobby! I wasn't making some weird comment that SF4 is crap? I'm so confused :(


  • #158
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    2 player lobbies still exist in SSFIV !!!!!!!


  • #159
    Orim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Owwmykneecap wrote: »
    2 player lobbies still exist in SSFIV !!!!!!!

    Yeah but you have to change settings and stuff. Effort man, effort.


  • #160
    chopperbyrne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,041 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Regardless of all this SFIV talk, KOF XIII is still using the horrible looking effects from XII and the nostalgic traditional ugly red flash at the end of a match.

    That alone could put me off getting it.


  • #161
    Orim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Orim


    Although apparently the new netcode they are using for the new releases of the old KOF games is really good. And said netcode will be in XIII.


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  • #162
    Yreval
    Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Yreval


    "Hello me, meet the real me..."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXLnH4J8nm8

    chopperbyrne wrote: »
    the nostalgic traditional ugly red flash at the end of a match.

    Still an improvement over 96-2002, where it happened any time a round was won with a special or super move. Will never understand why they did that.


  • #163
    Yreval
    Registered Users Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Yreval


    Today is the day the game comes out in North America. Some of the latest KOF XIII news:

    - There's now a KOF XIII guide on the SRK wiki: http://wiki.shoryuken.com/The_King_of_Fighters_XIII
    - http://www.youtube.com/user/HardEdgeOfficial are putting up videos of each character's trials.
    - SRK have also posted a highly positive review of the game: http://shoryuken.com/2011/11/22/king-of-fighters-xiii-snk-playmore-gets-it-right/
    - And of course, there's the launch tournament I'm organising here in Belfast this Saturday (the day after the European release).


  • #164
    Fergus_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


    Will be getting this next month and actually give the game a srs go.


  • #165
    Naphiel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭Naphiel


    Team K', Kula, Saiki.
    Just three more days. :D


  • #166
    Owwmykneecap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    have you ***** seen that chinese kof knock off?

    Looks like they lifted the engine from kof XIII in its entirity. (plus a stage from metal slug)

    Need to get them working on sonic 4, with a sonic 3 rom to start with.


  • #167
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W7GWsa8Mps


  • #168
    dead one
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    I am dead king of king of fighter series --:)


  • #169
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    dead one wrote: »
    I am dead king of king of fighter series --:)

    It's not often we see you outside of the religion section!


  • #170
    dead one
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    It's not often we see you outside of the religion section!
    Doctor DooM, You want me to post outside religion, right-- I have wasted my life on games -- life is also a game, you are its player, but in the games of life, there is no second chance. You can't restart this game of life, that's the restriction in game of life. In the game of life, you win, you win, you lose, you lose -- So make the decisions wisely

    There was no match against me in king of fighter series -- Kof 1994, kof1995, kof 1996, kof 1997, kof 1998, kof 1999, kof 2000, kof 2001, kof 2002, etc


  • #171
    Dreddybajs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭Dreddybajs


    deadman is ggpo king


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  • #172
    dead one
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Dreddybajs wrote: »
    deadman is ggpo king
    ggpo doesn't create kings, It creates:-
    1 queen
    2 rooks
    3 bishops
    4 knights
    5 pawns


  • #173
    Scavenger XIII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    WAT


  • #174
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    Well, this threads taken a turn for the interesting


  • #175
    UberPrinny_Baal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭UberPrinny_Baal


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    Well, this threads taken a turn for the interesting

    I seriously question your definition of "interesting"

    This must be what it feels like to listen to our tournament commentary when you're not in on any of the in-jokes...


  • #176
    Voa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Voa


    Well, I'm not gonna BUY the game.
    That would require money.
    But...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UC1eOeKcY


  • #177
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    More importantly, is that Butt in the background?!


  • #178
    UberPrinny_Baal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭UberPrinny_Baal


    I am still disappointed that SNK respects plot continuity in their fighting games.

    Rugal can't be playable, because he's canonically dead.


  • #179
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »
    I am still disappointed that SNK respects plot continuity in their fighting games.

    Rugal can't be playable, because he's canonically dead.

    Every few years they do a "dream battle" KoF which is out of continuity with the other KoF's (which are technically out of continuity with the FF and Art of Fighting games which exist in their own continuity).


  • #180
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    Xtravision arent stocking this either. Looks like they are sending it out to die.


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  • #181
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Doctor DooM wrote: »
    More importantly, is that Butt in the background?!
    Marco Rodriguez is a student of Kyogugen Karate, so yes.


  • #182
    Doctor DooM
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 25,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭Doctor DooM


    bush wrote: »
    Xtravision arent stocking this either. Looks like they are sending it out to die.

    That sucks.

    I'm ordering mine off Amazon tonight.


  • #183
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    bush wrote: »
    Xtravision arent stocking this either. Looks like they are sending it out to die.
    In Ireland, sure.

    Rest of Europe will be another story.


  • #184
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,731 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »
    I seriously question your definition of "interesting"

    This must be what it feels like to listen to our tournament commentary when you're not in on any of the in-jokes...
    From a youTube search, dead man apparently was a no.1 KOF troll on GGPO.


  • #185
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    In Ireland, sure.

    Rest of Europe will be another story.

    Why? I know its the same in the US too, no one is stocking it.


  • #186
    the 1st hardter
    Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭the 1st hardter


    So where is stocking it???

    I'm was planning on picking it up on the way home. Guess I'm in for disappointment


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  • #187
    UberPrinny_Baal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭UberPrinny_Baal


    Anyone done any price checking on the places that DO stock this?
    bush wrote: »
    Why? I know its the same in the US too, no one is stocking it.

    I'm sure if SNK had their way, every store in every country would stock 20 or 30 copies of the game.

    It's probably more a case of retailers declining to stock what is (unfortunately) not a very strong brand.

    Also Vesperarcade has started uploading KOF13 trials to Youtube, along with an opinon:
    Vesperarcade wrote:
    Many people ask me my personal opinion on trial difficulty for games.

    If the scale was 1 out 10 in difficulty


    MVC3 - 3
    SSF4 - 4
    3rd Strike - 5
    UMVC3 - 5
    Blazblue - 9
    KOF 13 - 10

    Ouch


  • #188
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    the 1st hardter wrote: »
    So where is stocking it???

    I'm was planning on picking it up on the way home. Guess I'm in for disappointment

    I think game are stocking it.


  • #189
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »

    I'm sure if SNK had their way, every store in every country would stock 20 or 30 copies of the game.

    It's probably more a case of retailers declining to stock what is (unfortunately) not a very strong brand.

    Its not down to snk though its down to the publisher. Atlus is the publisher and they dont seem to give a ****.


  • #190
    the 1st hardter
    Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭the 1st hardter


    Yeah it a real tech intensive game. With 5 different types of jumps (Neutral, Normal, Super, Hop, Big Hop) all being the same commands with milli seconds in the difference it can get pretty rough for new comers.


  • #191
    UberPrinny_Baal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭UberPrinny_Baal


    bush wrote: »
    Its not down to snk though its down to the publisher. Atlus is the publisher and they dont seem to give a ****.

    It's not that simple.

    How many copies of the game the publisher print is largely influenced by demand from retailers, which is discussed at a head office level well in advance of launch.

    If everyone except GAME has said to Atlus "Screw that noise, we're not stocking your stupid KOF", it's absolutely the correct business move by Atlus to not send a lot of copies to market for launch.

    If KOF13 is unexpectedly and massively popular, they can always order a second print run to sate demand; but they'll probably get massively burned if they put the number of initial copies on the market you seem to be expecting.


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  • #192
    the 1st hardter
    Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭the 1st hardter


    So game is stocking it???

    Great doubt game in Tallaght will have sold out by the time I get home


  • #193
    Naphiel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭Naphiel


    Game in Henry Street didn't stock it but the game near Trinity got a small few. Pretty sure they only had 2 PS3 copies, which are now gone thanks to me and Joe.


  • #194
    the 1st hardter
    Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭the 1st hardter


    Dam that sucks. Meh I can order it in anyway and go off KOF 98 for casuals. And look up shoruyken for combos ;P


  • #195
    blag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭blag


    bush wrote: »
    Its not down to snk though its down to the publisher. Atlus is the publisher and they dont seem to give a ****.

    Rising Star Games are publishing it in Europe, they're a small publisher who have published Cave's shmups here recently which people have also found difficult to find in physical shops.


  • #196
    chueytoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭chueytoo


    UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »
    Originally Posted by Vesperarcade
    Many people ask me my personal opinion on trial difficulty for games.

    If the scale was 1 out 10 in difficulty


    MVC3 - 3
    SSF4 - 4
    3rd Strike - 5
    UMVC3 - 5
    Blazblue - 9
    KOF 13 - 10



    Ouch

    Blazblue a 9 O___o kof a 10, I got this :D
    3rd strike a 5, this must be wrong.

    I got my copy of kof in game on dawson street. But I got the last ps3 copy, not sure about xbox.


  • #197
    Scavenger XIII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭Scavenger XIII


    Pre-order hasn't arrived at work, so I won't have it 'til monday at the earliest. :mad:


  • #198
    Naphiel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭Naphiel


    chueytoo wrote: »
    Blazblue a 9 O___o kof a 10, I got this :D
    3rd strike a 5, this must be wrong.

    I got my copy of kof in game on dawson street. But I got the last ps3 copy, not sure about xbox.

    5 minutes into the tutorial and I'm annoyed we didn't get the CDs with it.
    It's really good, but I'm finding it hard to settle with a button layout that I like.


  • #199
    the 1st hardter
    Registered Users Posts: 488 ✭✭the 1st hardter


    Yeah KOF really comes down to player choice really. I think I will like

    ab
    cd

    or

    ac
    bd

    Will know when I sit down with it

    also Desk has a really good reason for the 10/10 for trials in his video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpQw93KsqLk&feature=feedu


  • #200
    Fergus_
    Registered Users Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Fergus_


    UberPrinny_Baal wrote: »
    Anyone done any price checking on the places that DO stock this?



    I'm sure if SNK had their way, every store in every country would stock 20 or 30 copies of the game.

    It's probably more a case of retailers declining to stock what is (unfortunately) not a very strong brand.

    Also Vesperarcade has started uploading KOF13 trials to Youtube, along with an opinon:




    Ouch

    I accept this challenge


  • #201
    UberPrinny_Baal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭UberPrinny_Baal


    the 1st hardter wrote: »

    also Desk has a really good reason for the 10/10 for trials in his video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpQw93KsqLk&feature=feedu

    I don't think Vesperarcade (the video you linked) and Desk are the same person.


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