Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Tell me how · 13-11-2019 7:06pm

easypazz wrote: »

I doubt she will ever be as educated as me. I think I speak for 99% of the people on boards and their educations levels.

Everybody except you perhaps.

You think 99% of people on Boards have 3rd level qualifications? Because I suspect that that is the minimum which she will achieve.

Also, I strongly suspect that once she completes an undergrad course that a Masters and Phd would be within her reach purely if she used the subject of being an opinion former in the 21st century. I mean, that's just her own experience right there.

Fr_Dougal · 13-11-2019 7:14pm

Tell me how wrote: »

You think 99% of people on Boards have 3rd level qualifications? Because I suspect that that is the minimum which she will achieve.

Also, I strongly suspect that once she completes an undergrad course that a Masters and Phd would be within her reach purely if she used the subject of being an opinion former in the 21st century. I mean, that's just her own experience right there.

Lol

Let her finish secondary school first, before you take out that crystal ball.

Personally I think there’s a higher chance of her writing a manifesto and going loco.

Retr0gamer · 13-11-2019 7:21pm

easypazz wrote: »

I doubt she will ever be as educated as me. I think I speak for 99% of the people on boards and their educations levels.

Everybody except you perhaps.

I know plenty of people with third level education that aren't very intelligent. Greta would be far more educated than them already. Either that or its the incredibly rich that benefit massively by ignoring climate change and spouting lies that the less intelligent people will believe.

And as a scientist the deniers of clear scientific evidence are usually the least intelligent people I meet.

Tell me how · 13-11-2019 7:22pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Lol

Let her finish secondary school first, before you take out that crystal ball.

Personally I think there’s a higher chance of her writing a manifesto and going loco.

Quoted for posterity.

I don't know about her academic ability, but I do know Universities will be falling over themselves to offer her full scholarships.

I would add, given her capacity to engage on the topic as she has done, I don't think it will be a question of whether or not she is capable of college.

ForestFire · 13-11-2019 7:36pm

Tell me how wrote: »

Article on it here.

Is the headline factual or just a lie?

Can this flood be directly liked to climate change, or not? Not only that, its the only reason given for this event by the mayor! Where did he get this info?

Venice is sinking and has been for long time, do you think this could have an impact and increase rate of flooding, for a city bulit on mud only 1m above sea level!

What was the cause of the higher flood in 1966?

Again lll say the message seems to be..

Just listen to the scientists, but if that's not enough, sure just some stuff I made up too to scare your taxes from you...

Plumbthedepths · 13-11-2019 7:39pm

Venice has flooded 6 times in the last 1200 years. Just saying.

suicide_circus · 13-11-2019 8:02pm

Tell me how wrote: »

Quoted for posterity.

I don't know about her academic ability, but I do know Universities will be falling over themselves to offer her full scholarships.

I would add, given her capacity to engage on the topic as she has done, I don't think it will be a question of whether or not she is capable of college.

never mind scholarships, she'll be bombarded with honorary degrees and doctorates

windy shepard henderson · 13-11-2019 8:22pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

never mind scholarships, she'll be bombarded with honorary degrees and doctorates

I reckon it will be a toss up between Cambridge or Oxford, she will come in dead handy when it comes to the boat race.....

Tea drinker · 13-11-2019 8:28pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Venice has flooded 6 times in the last 1200 years. Just saying.

• only once from 1872 to 1950;

• about once every 5 to 10 years in the late 20th century;

• and—ominously—10 times in just the last two decades, including this week’s event.

^from the other posters linked article

Fr_Dougal · 13-11-2019 8:38pm

Tell me how wrote: »

Quoted for posterity.

I don't know about her academic ability, but I do know Universities will be falling over themselves to offer her full scholarships.

I would add, given her capacity to engage on the topic as she has done, I don't think it will be a question of whether or not she is capable of college.

Which universities have offered her full scholarships? Link?

Tell me how · 13-11-2019 8:40pm

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

I reckon it will be a toss up between Cambridge or Oxford, she will come in dead handy when it comes to the boat race.....

That's actually very funny.

MrMusician18 · 13-11-2019 8:58pm

Tea drinker wrote: »

• only once from 1872 to 1950;

• about once every 5 to 10 years in the late 20th century;

• and—ominously—10 times in just the last two decades, including this week’s event.

^from the other posters linked article

Hasn't Venice been sinking in the last 20/30 years because the city authority has been pumping drinking water out from under the city?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/02/when-will-venice-sink-google

Interesting article from the guardian on how changes to the lagoon have caused more frequent food events in Venice

13-11-2019 10:59pm

jesus theyre predicting her ****in masters degrees now

what is it with ye and throwing wild predictions at unknown events a decade from now

hold hands, close eyes and wish, everyone

Tell me how · 14-11-2019 12:49am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

jesus theyre predicting her ****in masters degrees now

what is it with ye and throwing wild predictions at unknown events a decade from now

hold hands, close eyes and wish, everyone

Some of us think of the future rather than staying buried in the past.

14-11-2019 1:06am

Tell me how wrote: »

Some of us think of the future rather than staying buried in the past.

is it not mid november 2019 where you are?

we all coexist in the present, which i believe is currently theorised as an experiential interface in linear spacetime..listen to the *science*

14-11-2019 1:17am

the problem with certainty, and especially in the young or immature, is that there's often little correlation between it and, well.....how events turn out.

Was it Melbourne said "I wish I were half so sure of anything as Macauley is of everything" or somesuch.

No lesser a genius than Kelvin himself famously predicted all there was to know had pretty much been worked out bar the stuff on the margins in or around 1897.

Aside from portraying anyone who takes issue with a figurehead child (as an unquestionable symbol of ~science~, no less- no irony there!) as an idiot, a luddite, a ~denierrrr~ (you can hear the pitchforks being handed out, cant you), the greta-is-great mob are also, imo, betrayed by their *certainty*

it often comes across as little more than a need for a cause that matches their requirement for strident self-righteousness. global crises are good for that.

science, confident in itself, welcomes interested doubt. not sloganeering and not closed ranks outside which all are branded heretic.

good public policy likewise does not rush to demonize the cynics or the doubtful.

a group that behaves in the above fashion stands in company with any other populist mob in history.

brrr, chilling stuff.

Tell me how · 14-11-2019 2:03am

^^^^

Science has spent 30 years, at least, allowing the cynics and the doubters to have their say.

It's time to face up to reality.

14-11-2019 2:06am

ah jaysus, everything is solved just in time for you to be tritely certain about it on the internet!

what are the odds :-D

by any chance you're not age in or around 30 are you?

edit: greta has been a phenomenon for in or around a year. be some achievement for anyone to have been doubting the spiel for thirty times that.

you wouldn't be conflating doubts about the goddess with climate-change denial again, would you? that would be awfully facetious of you however many thousand posts in.....

Tell me how · 14-11-2019 2:57am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

ah jaysus, everything is solved just in time for you to be tritely certain about it on the internet!

what are the odds :-D

by any chance you're not age in or around 30 are you?

edit: greta has been a phenomenon for in or around a year. be some achievement for anyone to have been doubting the spiel for thirty times that.

you wouldn't be conflating doubts about the goddess with climate-change denial again, would you? that would be awfully facetious of you however many thousand posts in.....

We had a poster here a few days ago saying as an ice-cube from his freezer melted, it's no big deal that an glacier in New Zealand has melted.

This conversation is about way more than Greta.

drunkmonkey · 14-11-2019 8:07am

Tell me how wrote: »

This conversation is about way more than Greta.

I think they meant your not old enough to know it's rubbish, some of us were sold this pup before a few times, Greta doesn't know this she's just a young school drop out.
In 20yrs you'll understand.

nthclare · 14-11-2019 9:29am

Every time I see this thread Pop up, that owl and the pussy cat story comes to mind.

Even the heading is like some story your school teacher would read to you in junior infant's in 1981...

Tell me how · 14-11-2019 2:09pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I think they meant your not old enough to know it's rubbish, some of us were sold this pup before a few times, Greta doesn't know this she's just a young school drop out.
In 20yrs you'll understand.

(*you're)

Is 40 not old enough to understand?

She's not a school drop out either, she's on a gap year. Quite a difference between someone doing what she has done and heading off to EU, UN, US Senate to speak to them and someone who drops out to because they were threatened with being disciplined for smoking in the bathrooms or whatever.

Kermit.de.frog · 14-11-2019 8:55pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

I think they meant your not old enough to know it's rubbish, some of us were sold this pup before a few times, Greta doesn't know this she's just a young school drop out.
In 20yrs you'll understand.

14-11-2019 9:14pm

Tea drinker wrote: »

• only once from 1872 to 1950;

• about once every 5 to 10 years in the late 20th century;

• and—ominously—10 times in just the last two decades, including this week’s event.

^from the other posters linked article

But, from the article also, mostly NOT from rising sea level

easypazz · 15-11-2019 12:32am

BourbonWhiskey wrote: »

I have yet to see any convincing scientific evidence to support the catastrophic consequences people are predicting.

CO2 levels have doubled in the last 150 years or so.

Sea levels have risen by 8 inches in 100 years or so and now rise 3.5mm a year

Global temperatures have risen by about 1 degree in this period.

The trend is well established now of rising global temperatures leading to rising sea levels.

I am a bit sceptical about 400mm sea increase by 2050 but we shall know soon enough, it needs to increase rapidly from 3.5mm per year in the next decade for predictions to be proven correct.

Beasty · 15-11-2019 12:45am

Beasty wrote: »

FreudianSlippers and gozunda, do not post in this thread again. I will not get a chance to properly review your posts yet but will do so later. I may then issue further sanctions (or indeed allow one or both if you to post again)

Following discussion with the user, gozunda's threadban is now lifted

Overheal · 15-11-2019 2:46am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Mad props to the girl but I can see why all the F-150 drivers find her visage unsettling.

sonic85 · 15-11-2019 8:07am

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49759626

So in order to satisfy demand for cobalt, mining companies are considering mining the ocean floor. Admitting that anything in front of these machines will be destroyed and theres a huge risk that plumes of silt kicked up will smother animals and organisms that have adapted to clear calm waters. Just so people can feel great cruising around in their "eco friendly" electric car. Is there anything humans can turn their hand to that wont fcuk up the planet? What a joke

Kermit.de.frog · 15-11-2019 8:41am

ancapailldorcha · 15-11-2019 9:54am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I know plenty of people with third level education that aren't very intelligent. Greta would be far more educated than them already. Either that or its the incredibly rich that benefit massively by ignoring climate change and spouting lies that the less intelligent people will believe.

And as a scientist the deniers of clear scientific evidence are usually the least intelligent people I meet.

Denying climate change is good sign that someone can be ignored.

jackboy · 15-11-2019 1:13pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Denying climate change is good sign that someone can be ignored.

Bringing religious language into a scientific debate may be considered when evaluating credibility also.

KyussB · 15-11-2019 1:56pm

It's the act of denying that's religious - it's literally opposition to science, in this case - not the word.

Mike9832 · 15-11-2019 2:34pm

sonic85 wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49759626

So in order to satisfy demand for cobalt, mining companies are considering mining the ocean floor. Admitting that anything in front of these machines will be destroyed and theres a huge risk that plumes of silt kicked up will smother animals and organisms that have adapted to clear calm waters. Just so people can feel great cruising around in their "eco friendly" electric car. Is there anything humans can turn their hand to that wont fcuk up the planet? What a joke

I'm an EV fan, but that's awful

They'll dig up half the earth getting 6 billion transported by batteries

jackboy · 15-11-2019 2:56pm

KyussB wrote: »

It's the act of denying that's religious - it's literally opposition to science, in this case - not the word.

No, its religious language which has consistently been used in this thread for the purpous of shutting down debate, which is what religions do.

The extent of human impact on the climate has not been accurately determined yet, not even close. There is almost nobody in this thread claiming that man is having no impact on the climate. Yet some are actually saying that the science is settled, you are deniers we have 12 years to save the world.

easypazz · 15-11-2019 3:00pm

jackboy wrote: »

No, its religious language which has consistently been used in this thread for the purpous of shutting down debate, which is what religions do.

The extent of human impact on the climate has not been accurately determined yet, not even close. There is almost nobody in this thread claiming that man is having no impact on the climate. Yet some are actually saying that the science is settled, you are deniers we have 12 years to save the world.

Where in this thread are people saying we have 12 years to save the world?

Thelonious Monk · 15-11-2019 3:17pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

I'm an EV fan, but that's awful

They'll dig up half the earth getting 6 billion transported by batteries

they're doing it already with fracking for oil. We need to move away from private cars.

KyussB · 15-11-2019 3:31pm

jackboy wrote: »

No, its religious language which has consistently been used in this thread for the purpous of shutting down debate, which is what religions do.

The extent of human impact on the climate has not been accurately determined yet, not even close. There is almost nobody in this thread claiming that man is having no impact on the climate. Yet some are actually saying that the science is settled, you are deniers we have 12 years to save the world.

There is nothing religious about using the word denial: What other word would you propose people use, when people pour doubt on a well established and settled scientific consensus?

It fits the definitiion of Denial, perfectly. There is nothing religious about it.

Look up the word Denial in the dictionary - does it make any reference to religion? No - because that is a stupid concept.

15-11-2019 4:35pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

they're doing it already with fracking for oil. We need to move away from private cars.

Cars are NOT a major part of the problem.

The entire resolution could be done if we limited couples to one child for the next 50 years. Too many people is the only issue

15-11-2019 4:38pm

easypazz wrote: »

CO2 levels have doubled in the last 150 years or so.

Sea levels have risen by 8 inches in 100 years or so and now rise 3.5mm a year

Global temperatures have risen by about 1 degree in this period.

The trend is well established now of rising global temperatures leading to rising sea levels.

I am a bit sceptical about 400mm sea increase by 2050 but we shall know soon enough, it needs to increase rapidly from 3.5mm per year in the next decade for predictions to be proven correct.

There is no doubt humans are impacting, but these trends have been ongoing for 1000s of years. We are between ice ages, when the planet naturally warms.

Thelonious Monk · 15-11-2019 4:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Cars are NOT a major part of the problem.

The entire resolution could be done if we limited couples to one child for the next 50 years. Too many people is the only issue

consumption is the issue

easypazz · 15-11-2019 5:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no doubt humans are impacting, but these trends have been ongoing for 1000s of years. We are between ice ages, when the planet naturally warms.

The trend is now over 50 or 100 years that co2 levels have doubled. Different to thousands of years of evolution.

The population has gone from about 1 billion to 8 billion in 200 years are so.

Its a totally different scenario now where massive changes will be seen in a couple of generations rather maybe 10000 years.

jackboy · 15-11-2019 6:26pm

KyussB wrote: »

There is nothing religious about using the word denial: What other word would you propose people use, when people pour doubt on a well established and settled scientific consensus?

Can you not see the issue with the term ‘settled scientific consensus’? A consensus implies that all the facts are not known and therefore cannot be settled.

The word denial is not on its own religious, the way it is used in this thread is.

Kermit.de.frog · 15-11-2019 6:51pm

Greta must be in line for a Nobel Prize at this stage surely?

Kermit.de.frog · 15-11-2019 6:55pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Denying climate change is good sign that someone can be ignored.

Censorship is the way to go for people who don't subscribe to the hysterical doctrine.

Professor Moriarty · 15-11-2019 6:58pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Greta must be in line for a Nobel Prize at this stage surely?

Could do a lot worse. I'd be happy to see that.

ancapailldorcha · 15-11-2019 7:14pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Censorship is the way to go for people who don't subscribe to the hysterical doctrine.

I never mentioned censorship.

Tell me how · 15-11-2019 7:14pm

Surprised this hasn't appeared on the thread yet.

Youth Assembly recommendations on climate change announced

RECOMMENDATIONS
From your corner store to your super market, we call on the house to incentivise and obligate the installation of glass doors on open refrigerators

For Ireland to ban the importation of fracked gas and invest solely in renewables.

Implementing measures that will allow that Irish goods be both eco- sustainable and affordable in todays' Irish Market.

Implement a tiered Tax on Emissions from large companies including those under capital ETS. This tax must be increased every year while threshold decreases, shifting the burden from individuals to corporations.

Investment in industrial hemp processing facilities to provide a viable, sustainable and alternative land use for farmers as well as employment in rural Ireland.

A labelling and pricing system showing the climate impact of food products based on criteria such as impact of packaging and distance travelled.

Ireland to outlaw acts of ecocide – being the widespread and systematic loss of ecosystems, including climate and cultural damage.

Protect existing forests and make compulsory that at least 10% of all land owned for agricultural uses is dedicated to forestry.

A targeted nationwide Information campaign to educate the population about the climate crisis regarding the causes, the effects and the solutions.

Mandatory "Sustainability" education from primary level to the workplace including a new compulsory Junior Cycle & optional Leaving Certificate subject.

Has been well received.

https://twitter.com/marklittlenews/status/1195340849326022656

https://twitter.com/ConorSheehan93/status/1195313522948952064

https://twitter.com/boucherhayes/status/1195289358171090944

https://twitter.com/Mark_Coughlan/status/1195353373584834560

For those itching to say, these kids should be in school, what do they know, they should leave it to the adults. Time passes so quickly, these are going to be heading in to college and industry in a very short time and will also be voting in future elections if not contesting them.

Dr. Bre · 15-11-2019 7:17pm

How many brown envelopes did they go home with?

Kermit.de.frog · 15-11-2019 7:33pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

I never mentioned censorship.

You just imply it.

ancapailldorcha · 15-11-2019 7:39pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

You just imply it.

No I don't. That's just your victimhood narrative.

Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

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