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Merch · 22-08-2012 12:13am

Not sure what the issue with wearing one is, I didnt like doing it (felt like a nob with it on given my age) i did not feel like I experienced anyone targetting me as I had it on and it is a useful indicator to people that are considerate that you are a learner, those that wouldnt be considerate probably wouldnt care if its on or not.

Also its a good incentive to pass the test

Wonda-Boy · 22-08-2012 1:52pm

Pipz wrote: »

Didn't want to start up a new thread, but I'm wondering what the story is with L tabards. I know that they're not really enforced by the guards, and most people don't wear them, but has anyone ever had any issues with their insurance being void for not wearing one?

Cause personally I don't/wouldn't wear one cause it looks a bit stupid and people react dangerously to them, but if I thought that if I crashed and my insurance would be voided because I wasn't wearing the L Tabard I'd go out tomorrow and buy one.

Anyone got any experience with the matter?

TBH I dont think they look stupid (thats a matter of personal taste) I wear a hi vis all the time (I have my test) as I personally think cages react to it better (they might think its police etc and give you a second more time) then not wearing one and it keeps my textile jacket a hell of alot cleaner as I do a fair few miles. The only time I dont wear the Hi viz is when its very hot....

When I was learning I wore the vest religously but NEVER with the L on it. Anything that makes you seen quicker is a good thing....;)

Pipz · 22-08-2012 7:28pm

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

TBH I dont think they look stupid (thats a matter of personal taste) I wear a hi vis all the time (I have my test) as I personally think cages react to it better (they might think its police etc and give you a second more time) then not wearing one and it keeps my textile jacket a hell of alot cleaner as I do a fair few miles. The only time I dont wear the Hi viz is when its very hot....

When I was learning I wore the vest religously but NEVER with the L on it. Anything that makes you seen quicker is a good thing....;)

I'm never on my bike without a high-vis, its the big L plates that I was referring to as looking stupid. But a high vis I wear for my own safety, be safe be seen and all that. :P. It was the L plates specifically that I was referring to.

minidazzler · 22-08-2012 8:44pm

I know this technically isn't a learner question but it doesn't need it's own thread.

I've a buddy about to buy some gear on Bikergear.ie the helmet and such. I'm looking at the prices and some pictures and really don't trust that the stuff is over all as safe as it should be. Does anyone know if their equipment complies with regulations and is in fact safe enough? (i.e. Made in the EU or are they counterfeit (given the prices I can't be sure))

Please Kill Me · 22-08-2012 9:17pm

minidazzler wrote: »

I know this technically isn't a learner question but it doesn't need it's own thread.

I've a buddy about to buy some gear on Bikergear.ie the helmet and such. I'm looking at the prices and some pictures and really don't trust that the stuff is over all as safe as it should be. Does anyone know if their equipment complies with regulations and is in fact safe enough? (i.e. Made in the EU or are they counterfeit (given the prices I can't be sure))

You'll know by the branding if nothing else. Then again there was a geezer on Done Deal recently selling fake Alpinestars gloves. Having said that, Bikergear.ie are ok as far as bike stuff goes. If your buddy is getting a helmet, the Nitro lids they do are decent enough. Don't bother with their other ones. But buying a helmet, I'd be getting it in a shop so you can try for size.

As for the jackets and trousers, they all look like non branded stuff. They'll certainly do for someone starting off, but the quality won't be great TBH. Better off going to somewhere like Cotters or up north to buy the bike gear.

Any reason for buying the stuff online and not going to a shop??

minidazzler · 22-08-2012 9:29pm

Please Kill Me wrote: »

Any reason for buying the stuff online and not going to a shop??

I'm guessing it's cost more than anything, though I have said to him Buy cheap buy twice.

I just hope he's not planning to go for a G-mac helmet, clothing will protect you a little anyway, a sh1t helmet might not.

Please Kill Me · 22-08-2012 9:35pm

minidazzler wrote: »

I'm guessing it's cost more than anything, though I have said to him Buy cheap buy twice.

I can tell you from experience that's exactly right!! He doesn't have to buy Alpinestars or Richa gear, but no point buying sh!te either! Is he in Cork too? Go to Lee's Honda, ask for Eric. Tell him you're starting off and need good, but inexpensive gear.

minidazzler wrote: »

I just hope he's not planning to go for a G-mac helmet, clothing will protect you a little anyway, a sh1t helmet might not.

Oh God no. He might as well have an egg on his head FFS! Nitro would be entry level, I wouldn't get anything lower TBH and don't let anyone fill your head with horsesh!t about any SHARP rating either!!!

minidazzler · 22-08-2012 9:53pm

Please Kill Me wrote: »

I can tell you from experience that's exactly right!! He doesn't have to buy Alpinestars or Richa gear, but no point buying sh!te either! Is he in Cork too? Go to Lee's Honda, ask for Eric. Tell him you're starting off and need good, but inexpensive gear.

Oh God no. He might as well have an egg on his head FFS! Nitro would be entry level, I wouldn't get anything lower TBH and don't let anyone fill your head with horsesh!t about any SHARP rating either!!!

Aye, I'm trying to convince him to look for proper ratings and such, My own stuff (just starting out too) is my dad's leather, and my own boots/helmet. He doesn't get that cheap gear won't keep you safe. He thinks it's all the same.

Same guy won't wear anything but brand name clothing :pac: I'll get him around to the right idea.

Please Kill Me · 23-08-2012 8:30am

minidazzler wrote: »

Same guy won't wear anything but brand name clothing :pac: I'll get him around to the right idea.

Yeah, but it doesn't have to be "top of the range" stuff, entry level/inexpensive gear will do just fine: Nitro, KBC, HJC, Buffalo, RST, Swift, Akito etc. would all do perfectly fine and not too dear. Ah, it's his body/head/hands. All you can do is your best.

minidazzler · 23-08-2012 11:34am

I just got myself insured (Liberty 850 fully comp paying in installments.) How do I go about getting taxed now since I don't have my insurance disk yet? Or do I even need proof of insurance to get taxed?

Faith+1 · 23-08-2012 1:29pm

minidazzler wrote: »

I just got myself insured (Liberty 850 fully comp paying in installments.) How do I go about getting taxed now since I don't have my insurance disk yet? Or do I even need proof of insurance to get taxed?

All you need is an insurance number, ring your insurer and ask for the policy number.

martomcg · 23-08-2012 3:09pm

Great thread. Has pretty much answered all the questions i would have posted in my own thread anyway!

I'm looking into starting out biking now and hopefully will sort out my IBT in the next few weeks.

I do have two questions not mentioned here. Firstly no claims bonus. Does a no claims from a car transfer to a bike? My guess would be no but would the likes of Liberty/Quinn take it into consideration?

Second. A guy i work with has mentioned that there's no MOT/NCT or anything for bikes here? Meaning buying a bike 2nd hand could be dodgy enough here. He recommended buying in NI/UK as the standard of bike care would be higher and of course the bikes cheaper.

Also is it still the case that bikes that over 5 years old still have reduced VRT when registering a UK bike here in Ireland?

minidazzler · 23-08-2012 3:09pm

Faith+1 wrote: »

All you need is an insurance number, ring your insurer and ask for the policy number.

Thanks, did that, taxed and insured now!

Just to make sure, I can drive now even though I have not gotten my insurance disk yet?

Please Kill Me · 23-08-2012 6:34pm

martomcg wrote: »

I do have two questions not mentioned here. Firstly no claims bonus. Does a no claims from a car transfer to a bike? My guess would be no but would the likes of Liberty/Quinn take it into consideration?

No, it makes no difference if you've driven a car accident free for 100 years, when you get a bike you're starting from scratch.

martomcg wrote: »

Second. A guy i work with has mentioned that there's no MOT/NCT or anything for bikes here? Meaning buying a bike 2nd hand could be dodgy enough here. He recommended buying in NI/UK as the standard of bike care would be higher and of course the bikes cheaper.

No, there's no MOT/NCT (but they're trying to bring it in) but if you're going to buy a second hand bike, bring someone with you who knows their stuff. If a bike is dodgy (mechanically) it's easy enough to spot.

Yes buying in the UK/NI is cheaper to a degree and they really know how to look after their bikes. Re: your VRT question, I can't answer that as I have had no direct experience with it, but I'm sure someone else can help with that.

gipi · 23-08-2012 9:59pm

minidazzler wrote: »

Thanks, did that, taxed and insured now! Just to make sure, I can drive now even though I have not gotten my insurance disk yet?

You probably won't get an insurance disk from your ins company as it's not a requirement to carry one on a bike. AON/AXA don't send out disks, just the policy certificate.

butchboy · 10-09-2012 9:56am

Im 22 and have had a learner permit since i was 17. do i need to complete the theory test again for the motorbike licence as it does not say it on the licence itself.im only permited to drive a work vehicle and car??

minidazzler · 10-09-2012 10:39am

If you have never held a learner permit (or provisional licence) for a Motorcycle then yes you do have to do the theory test again if you want to learn to ride.

The Exact process you need to follow now is

Theory Test > Learner Permit > Initial Basic Training > Buy Motorcycle and gear > Insure > Tax > Ride.

Your car learner permit gets you nothing when it comes to motorcycles.

vader65 · 12-09-2012 11:32am

If I decide to take my test, how long will I be restricted to a lower powered bike before I can drive a larger one?

Please Kill Me · 12-09-2012 11:36am

vader65 wrote: »

If I decide to take my test, how long will I be restricted to a lower powered bike before I can drive a larger one?

If you pass your test, the restriction is for a further 2 years.

vader65 · 12-09-2012 11:41am

Please Kill Me wrote: »

If you pass your test, the restriction is for a further 2 years.

is that the same for the uk and ireland?

minidazzler · 12-09-2012 12:31pm

Please Kill Me wrote: »

If you pass your test, the restriction is for a further 2 years.

From what I was told with the new licencing regulations to take place after Jan 13th, if he is Over 24 and does it then on an unrestricted bike he won't be bound by any restrictions? Can you confirm if my understanding is correct?

vader65 · 12-09-2012 12:37pm

minidazzler wrote: »

From what I was told with the new licencing regulations to take place after Jan 13th, if he is Over 24 and does it then on an unrestricted bike he won't be bound by any restrictions? Can you confirm if my understanding is correct?

cool, im not 24 for another few years but i dont think i would be able to afford the whole thing until then anyway. so im hoping this is true!

minidazzler · 12-09-2012 12:42pm

vader65 wrote: »

cool, im not 24 for another few years but i dont think i would be able to afford the whole thing until then anyway. so im hoping this is true!

You're definitely best to do it ASAP then, given the tiered licencing coming in.

Please Kill Me · 12-09-2012 1:58pm

vader65 wrote: »

is that the same for the uk and ireland?

minidazzler wrote: »

From what I was told with the new licencing regulations to take place after Jan 13th, if he is Over 24 and does it then on an unrestricted bike he won't be bound by any restrictions? Can you confirm if my understanding is correct?

I honestly couldn't tell ye. I know there was changes made but I don't know in what respect. It has always been a 2 year restriction after you pass your test. If this has changed, I'm unaware of it. Sorry.

martomcg · 12-09-2012 4:14pm

Please Kill Me wrote: »

I honestly couldn't tell ye. I know there was changes made but I don't know in what respect. It has always been a 2 year restriction after you pass your test. If this has changed, I'm unaware of it. Sorry.

It is due to change in January 2013.

If you sit your test on an unrestricted bike and are over 24 you will have no restriction on your bike licence.

In order to qualify for this you must also have taken this new IBT Module 5, which has yet to be finalised.

Supposedly there is a RSA meeting in October this year to explain the changes to the system/licences and also to explain the new IBT Module to instructors.

monuworks · 21-09-2012 2:24pm

Hi All,

Just Looking for some friendly advice.

I'm about to apply for my provisional Licence for a motorbike and have to ride a 33bhp for 2 years.

Would I be better riding a 250cc or a bigger bike and get it restricted?

Also Does anyone have a rough idea of the cost of insurance, in my early forties, does age make difference?

Thanks in advance.

Please Kill Me · 21-09-2012 8:29pm

monuworks wrote: »

Hi All,

Just Looking for some friendly advice.

I'm about to apply for my provisional Licence for a motorbike and have to ride a 33bhp for 2 years.

Would I be better riding a 250cc or a bigger bike and get it restricted?

Also Does anyone have a rough idea of the cost of insurance, in my early forties, does age make difference?

Thanks in advance.

Just MY opinion but I say get a bigger bike and get it restricted. For example, a Hornet 600 or Bandit 600, get it restricted, great commuter bike, good all-rounder, good to learn on, then when you pass your test and the restriction is eventually up, it's a different bike with the restrictor off. If you get a 250, you'll only end up changing it. Like I said, that's just my thoughts on it.

As for insurance, yes at 40-odd, it shouldn't be extortionate for you.

hollingr · 24-09-2012 11:45pm

Hello, I'm just about to turn 28 yrs of age, have a full clean Irish licence with 3 yrs no claims on a 2.2 L car, and would like to get a motor bike now for Dublin city commute.

Can't afford a car any more as returning to college as mature student.. Just trying to get together ball park figures for what I should expect as insurance/maintenance costs per year. My only biker mate tells me petrol is only 10/15 euro per week which sounds pretty amazing!

Also, up to what c.c bike can I drive, and are there spikes in cost at a particular c.c? I've driven mopeds before for a few months in Indonesia where you have to be insanely aware and everyone drives like maniacs on terrible roads so I think I'll be able to handle the N11! (had a bike with a clutch for a good while too.)

Will I need to take any test or is my full irish enough? I tried to get an online quote for a few bikes today but kept getting the "call us" and no quote.

Any guidance greatly appreciated, start college 1st Oct so want to have any tests/courses I need to do sorted by then.. Is it too short notice?

Cheers,
Robbie

Please Kill Me · 25-09-2012 12:07am

I can't answer all your questions, but I can answer some...

hollingr wrote: »

My only biker mate tells me petrol is only 10/15 euro per week which sounds pretty amazing!

Yeah, it's €15 per week if you drive a moped and your commute is about 10 miles!! :rolleyes: It also depends on how you drive your machine and how big/heavy it is. My commute is 80-100 miles a day. It costs me €50-€60 per week. The bike is 900cc and I "push her on", having said that, some days I take my wife's CB400, and it costs about €10-€12 per day!

hollingr wrote: »

Also, up to what c.c bike can I drive, and are there spikes in cost at a particular c.c? I've driven mopeds before for a few months in Indonesia where you have to be insanely aware and everyone drives like maniacs on terrible roads so I think I'll be able to handle the N11! (had a bike with a clutch for a good while too.)

You can drive any cc you want, but on a provisional licence it has to be restricted to 33hp. So you could buy a Hornet 600 or Bandit 600 and get it restricted and insured and away you go. Of course you need your theory test and IBT first.

hollingr wrote: »

Will I need to take any test or is my full irish enough? I tried to get an online quote for a few bikes today but kept getting the "call us" and no quote.

Even if you have a full Irish driving licence (car only) you will need to re-do the theory test, get a provisional bike licence and go from there. You won't get a quote from any insurance company without specifics i.e. bike make/model/engine size etc...

hollingr wrote: »

Any guidance greatly appreciated, start college 1st Oct so want to have any tests/courses I need to do sorted by then.. Is it too short notice?

It might be - get cracking!! Best of luck.

hollingr · 25-09-2012 12:32am

thanks for the quick reply.

back to the drawing board so... Is getting the licence for bikes similar to the waiting lists/trouble getting one for car? God I hate the RSA..

Please Kill Me · 25-09-2012 12:40am

hollingr wrote: »

Is getting the licence for bikes similar to the waiting lists/trouble getting one for car? God I hate the RSA..

Yep, I'm afraid so. But don't let it put you off. Bikes rock!!!

P.C. · 25-09-2012 7:27am

hollingr wrote: »

Hello, I'm just about to turn 28 yrs of age, have a full clean Irish licence with 3 yrs no claims on a 2.2 L car, and would like to get a motor bike now for Dublin city commute.

Can't afford a car any more as returning to college as mature student.. Just trying to get together ball park figures for what I should expect as insurance/maintenance costs per year. My only biker mate tells me petrol is only 10/15 euro per week which sounds pretty amazing!

Also, up to what c.c bike can I drive, and are there spikes in cost at a particular c.c? I've driven mopeds before for a few months in Indonesia where you have to be insanely aware and everyone drives like maniacs on terrible roads so I think I'll be able to handle the N11! (had a bike with a clutch for a good while too.)

Will I need to take any test or is my full irish enough? I tried to get an online quote for a few bikes today but kept getting the "call us" and no quote.

Any guidance greatly appreciated, start college 1st Oct so want to have any tests/courses I need to do sorted by then.. Is it too short notice?

Cheers,
Robbie

Read the first post in the thread, it will explain what you need to do to get your bike licence.

Seaswimmer · 26-09-2012 4:15pm

Hi there.

new to this forum and know nothing about mopeds/scooters.

I am looking for advice on a moped/scooter to bring away with a camper van. we have always used bikes but are getting older and would like to travel a bit further from campsites without having to take the camper. I have a towbar and am happy enough to get a suitable trailer. My questions are as follows.

1. There are 2 of us. Would we be better off gettting one decent moped or one smaller one each.
2. We both have B licences. What does this entitle us to?
3. any makes to recommend? New or 2nd hand.
4. what kind of money are we talikng about typically..

I would rather stay away from having to do any kind of theory tests or driving/riding tests at our age but if that is the only way to get something suitable then i would consider it. Also there is a good chance this/these mopeds would only be used a few weeks of the year if that is relevant..

bradknowell · 26-09-2012 7:11pm

Seaswimmer wrote: »

Hi there.

new to this forum and know nothing about mopeds/scooters.

I am looking for advice on a moped/scooter to bring away with a camper van. we have always used bikes but are getting older and would like to travel a bit further from campsites without having to take the camper. I have a towbar and am happy enough to get a suitable trailer. My questions are as follows.

1. There are 2 of us. Would we be better off gettting one decent moped or one smaller one each.
2. We both have B licences. What does this entitle us to?
3. any makes to recommend? New or 2nd hand.
4. what kind of money are we talikng about typically..

I would rather stay away from having to do any kind of theory tests or driving/riding tests at our age but if that is the only way to get something suitable then i would consider it. Also there is a good chance this/these mopeds would only be used a few weeks of the year if that is relevant..

B license is for cars which have nothing to do with bikes at all. although I believe if you got your full car license before 2005/2006 then you should have the moped license on it so you can get a scooter. Maz size 50cc. Check your license to see do you have that license on it

horse7 · 27-09-2012 8:44pm

Please Kill Me wrote: »

I can't answer all your questions, but I can answer some...

My commute is 80-100 miles a day. It costs me €50-€60 per week. The bike is 900cc and I "push her on", having said that, some days I take my wife's CB400, and it costs about €10-€12 per day!

So if the cb400 is 10 euro a day,which is better on juice.

Please Kill Me · 27-09-2012 10:20pm

horse7 wrote: »

So if the cb400 is 10 euro a day,which is better on juice.

Overall, the ZX9 is. I'm 6'4" and just over 16 stone, so the CB400 struggles to stay at or above 120kph with me on it. Whereas the ZX does it with ease. The CB400 is better fun on the twisties though.

30-09-2012 5:06pm

Hi guys

Quick one for you, I've a provision A licence (did my theory, am in the middle of doing all of my IBT training) and will then be picking up a Vespa PX 125 next month. I'm wondering what the story is with the test in 6 months time, if I do the test on my Vespa, will that mean they'll only give me an A1 licence instead of the A provisional I currently have?

Cheers fellas

minidazzler · 30-09-2012 5:10pm

In 6 months you'd get a full M because you ride a scooter. (I think)

If you were on a 125 motorbike, with the new licencing you'd get an A2 licence.

gipi · 30-09-2012 5:40pm

Don't think you'd get an A2 either, because there's a minimum size of bike that you must take the test on to get an A2.

I think your guess regarding the A1 is correct, Entrepreneur - and if the vespa is automatic, your licence would only permit you to ride automatics as well.

Edit: Category M covers mopeds with a max speed of 45kph (it used to refer to under 50cc but I'm not sure if that applies any more), so that won't apply to your 125cc vespa either.

30-09-2012 7:57pm

gipi wrote: »

Don't think you'd get an A2 either, because there's a minimum size of bike that you must take the test on to get an A2.

I think your guess regarding the A1 is correct, Entrepreneur - and if the vespa is automatic, your licence would only permit you to ride automatics as well.

Edit: Category M covers mopeds with a max speed of 45kph (it used to refer to under 50cc but I'm not sure if that applies any more), so that won't apply to your 125cc vespa either.

Ok thanks for that. Better I know this now then later on. So how realistic would it be for me to get lessons on a 250 with a school and then do my test on the school bike? I basically want to make sure I never have to go through this IBT hassle ever again.

And I want a full A licence but I only want a 125 cc bike for now.

Wossack · 01-10-2012 2:44pm

someone on here did just that - they never even owned a bike, but still passed their A test with just a rented school bike

I personally couldnt have, so certainly down to how quickly you'd pick it up / natural talent

minidazzler · 01-10-2012 2:53pm

What should I have under my saddle as part of my maintenance kit? Anyone have a decent comprehensive list to deal with most common eventualities? Thanks.

Wossack · 01-10-2012 3:01pm

Ive a bicycle multitool (foldaway allen keys), pile of fuses, cable ties, a 20e note in a baggie (emergency petrol money), and used to keep my leatherman under there, but Ive only one and it gets used for allsorts. Probably could do with one of those puncture repair kits, but space very limited under my seat unfort.. have breakdown/recovery with Adelaide so worse comes to worst..

blu3r0ri0n · 02-10-2012 10:03pm

minidazzler wrote: »

What should I have under my saddle as part of my maintenance kit? Anyone have a decent comprehensive list to deal with most common eventualities? Thanks.

Get yourself a puncture repair kit it's a must, one of these;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-MOTORCYCLE-BIKE-ATV-QUAD-CAR-BICYCLE-PUNCTURE-REPAIR-KIT-TUBELESS-/320990658049?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4abc88be01

Your bike should already have a toolkit that will have everything you need in terms of screw drivers, spanner etc. you will only need one or two diferent sizes of spanners in reality and it will be easy enough to figure out what you need.

Allen keys, fuses and strong cable ties are a must too. I also carry a spare bulb for the headlight just incase but thats in my jackets outside pocket.

seeker639 · 03-10-2012 6:27pm

Hi all,
My first of many questions,
actually il start here, ive always wanted a motorcycle since i was a teen, 36 now, a family members death on a bike and a promise to a parent stopped me til now!.
i started lookin at a few bikes and just cant keep away from the naked,s, 1 in particular HONDA CB1000(BIG ONE),,,,,,DROOOOL, ahem anyways i need a straight answer no jargon or law quotes in normal english ,, can the big one best restricted so it can be ridden and maybe slept on! with a learner permit . i found this link to specs

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/honda/honda_cb1000fr_big_1%2093.htm
thank you for your help.

eurofoxy · 03-10-2012 6:49pm

seeker639 wrote: »

,, can the big one best restricted so it can be ridden and maybe slept on! with a learner permit . i found this link to specs

thank you for your help.

anything can be restricted, its weather you would be able to drive it properly restricted is the question...i had a cbr600 restricted when i passed my test, it was horrible to ride, it was too heavy for the power and i assume the 1000 will be the same but thats your preference, google fi restrictor kit, they are the ahem market leader in rip off kits, i think they will do a kit for it..

seeker639 · 03-10-2012 7:12pm

eurofoxy wrote: »

anything can be restricted, its weather you would be able to drive it properly restricted is the question...i had a cbr600 restricted when i passed my test, it was horrible to ride, it was too heavy for the power and i assume the 1000 will be the same but thats your preference, google fi restrictor kit, they are the ahem market leader in rip off kits, i think they will do a kit for it..

thx for reply, weither its useable or not, would it be legal,,.

on this link theres a list , a cb1000 is not restrictable
or maybe im reading it wrong
http://www.magireland.org/a2-license-facts/

minidazzler · 03-10-2012 7:45pm

seeker639 wrote: »

Hi all,
My first of many questions,
actually il start here, ive always wanted a motorcycle since i was a teen, 36 now, a family members death on a bike and a promise to a parent stopped me til now!.
i started lookin at a few bikes and just cant keep away from the naked,s, 1 in particular HONDA CB1000(BIG ONE),,,,,,DROOOOL, ahem anyways i need a straight answer no jargon or law quotes in normal english ,, can the big one best restricted so it can be ridden and maybe slept on! with a learner permit . i found this link to specs

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/honda/honda_cb1000fr_big_1%2093.htm
thank you for your help.

If you will be on a learner permit then come January 13th that bike would not be legal for you to ride. Even with the restriction, a bike after then will not be allowed to be restricted to below half it's power, which this bike will be just a hair over. (The new power restriction will be 35Kw. )

seeker639 · 03-10-2012 8:37pm

thank you for that:), guess im looking at a naked bandit 600 or similar so ,didnt win lotto either:(

LookBehindYou · 03-10-2012 11:04pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Hi guys

Quick one for you, I've a provision A licence (did my theory, am in the middle of doing all of my IBT training) and will then be picking up a Vespa PX 125 next month. I'm wondering what the story is with the test in 6 months time, if I do the test on my Vespa, will that mean they'll only give me an A1 licence instead of the A provisional I currently have?

Cheers fellas

If you do the test on your Vespa, you will only get an A1 with a restriction.

Do your test on a school bike and you will get the full licence.

There are changes coming next Jan 19th.
A1= max 125cc
A2 = restricted
A = unrestricted.(for age 24 and over)

The full facts are not known yet as to how and what.

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