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Westfield Leixlip

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    loremolis wrote: »
    If that rendering doesn't do it justice then it'll look even better.

    Why are you concerned about residents who 'dropped' half a million based on something that was verbal?

    God forbid that there are one bed apartments in case there is some social housing!!! What would you do with social housing then, round them all up?

    Not put them near houses with 500k price tags anyway.. Its just like the bait and switch out the kilcock - maynooth road too, sell a load of private houses then cluid comes in and plonks people paying nothing down.

    Regardless of your false outrage about ‘nimbys’ if you were a year or 2 into a mortgage for almost half a mil and some problem social tenants got housing for basically free just behind your back wall and started causing enough trouble to put you in negative equity , youd be rightly pissed off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    loremolis wrote: »
    Residents are always 'up in arms' over something or other. I'd bet that other residents in other housing nearby schemes were also 'up in arms' when the Westfield development was being planned.

    Being 'up in arms' is just another way of saying you're nimby

    Are you saying that there's no justification for anyone to be angry about being lied to, and the developer not building the development the council/ABP approved? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 Dec2020


    Do you think they will try and make the Mews bigger at the end of the estate? I have a deposit down on a house near that part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Dec2020 wrote: »
    Do you think they will try and make the Mews bigger at the end of the estate? I have a deposit down on a house near that part.

    Woukdnt trust him to make anything bigger if green spaces being made smaller, a creche is being overlooked and apartments are being shoehorned in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Dec2020 wrote: »
    Do you think they will try and make the Mews bigger at the end of the estate? I have a deposit down on a house near that part.

    Already tried and failed - see planning application 18663 at http://webgeo.kildarecoco.ie/public/planningsearch/171


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 Dec2020


    Was this not appealed to Bord Pleanala and granted?
    302399: Glen Easton, Leixlip County Kildare (18/663)


  • Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭loremolis


    Not put them near houses with 500k price tags anyway.. Its just like the bait and switch out the kilcock - maynooth road too, sell a load of private houses then cluid comes in and plonks people paying nothing down.

    Regardless of your false outrage about ‘nimbys’ if you were a year or 2 into a mortgage for almost half a mil and some problem social tenants got housing for basically free just behind your back wall and started causing enough trouble to put you in negative equity , youd be rightly pissed off


    If this, if that. If my Aunt had b*lls she'd be my Uncle. The only fake outrage going on here is yours.

    Are you really that concerned about someone you don't know who bought a house and that house is now potentially going to be near apartments and may hypothetically, according to your analysis of a hypothetical situation, might be in negative equity?


  • Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭loremolis


    buffalo wrote: »
    Are you saying that there's no justification for anyone to be angry about being lied to, and the developer not building the development the council/ABP approved? :confused:

    As far as I know a person can only build what has been approved by the Council or An Bord Pleanala. Those permissions are publicly available so what is your exact issue if the person building has permission or wants to change the permission through the planning process?

    Sounds very Nimby to me if you can't accept that planning permission allows someone to build what they got permission for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    loremolis wrote: »
    As far as I know a person can only build what has been approved by the Council or An Bord Pleanala. Those permissions are publicly available so what is your exact issue if the person building has permission or wants to change the permission through the planning process?

    Sounds very Nimby to me if you can't accept that planning permission allows someone to build what they got permission for.

    Please go back and read my original post, with the image.


  • Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭loremolis


    buffalo wrote: »
    Please go back and read my original post, with the image.

    I read it again and you're still a Nimby. The developer can change the development only if they receive planning permission and you can object with anyone else who wants to. Your complaint is invalid.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    It's not in my back garden, it's nowhere near my house. I have however heard from the people who have moved into the area and paid large amounts of money based on the developer's promises of what the estate will look like - i.e. the current planning permission. They were told there was going to be houses behind/beside them, and that those houses were in fact already sold. Now a few months later, with sales of the houses nearby finalised, the plans are being completely changed. You can label those people as nimbys if you want, but as victims of those sort of outright lies, I don't think it really sticks.

    I am however waiting on the developer to build the creche, which is now the subject of an enforcement notice at it was supposed to be at least started by now. There was also supposed to be a playground and some pedestrian and cycling facilities. Instead the developer seems to be prioritising this block ahead of the creche, depriving the area of services in favour of lining their own pockets. I'm interested to see what power an enforcement notice has.

    As I said above, I'm all for places for people to live - if a block was proposed in the field beside my house, I would sigh and know that I'd miss my view, but I don't think I'd be objecting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 944 ✭✭✭loremolis


    buffalo wrote: »
    It's not in my back garden, it's nowhere near my house. I have however heard from the people who have moved into the area and paid large amounts of money based on the developer's promises of what the estate will look like - i.e. the current planning permission. They were told there was going to be houses behind/beside them, and that those houses were in fact already sold. Now a few months later, with sales of the houses nearby finalised, the plans are being completely changed. You can label those people as nimbys if you want, but as victims of those sort of outright lies, I don't think it really sticks.

    I am however waiting on the developer to build the creche, which is now the subject of an enforcement notice at it was supposed to be at least started by now. There was also supposed to be a playground and some pedestrian and cycling facilities. Instead the developer seems to be prioritising this block ahead of the creche, depriving the area of services in favour of lining their own pockets. I'm interested to see what power an enforcement notice has.

    As I said above, I'm all for places for people to live - if a block was proposed in the field beside my house, I would sigh and know that I'd miss my view, but I don't think I'd be objecting.

    You say that ‘’ I have heard from people’ and that they were told’ and that they are ‘victims of outright lies’. Who are you, Batman? Are you in a crusade for justice for others by being a concerned citizen about what others may possibly have been told and what you may have heard and what doesn’t seem to be directly effecting you. That’s fake outrage if I ever saw it.

    How much of a negative effect do the houses in the Westfield development have on the adjoining Glen Easton estate?

    How viable is a crèche in that site when there are plenty of spaces in the crèche across the road and in others nearby


  • Registered Users Posts: 37 Top_Guy


    loremolis wrote: »
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    How viable is a crèche in that site when there are plenty of spaces in the crèche across the road and in others nearby

    Obviously said by someone who has no clue about childcare issues in the North Kildare area. Any local creches have over a year long waiting list, and only take kids full time in my experience.

    A creche is badly needed in this and any other new development.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 PrometheusK


    How viable is a crèche in that site when there are plenty of spaces in the crèche across the road and in others nearby

    Ridiculous statement in the current environment where there is a country wide shortage of childcare services.

    I can confirm there is not sufficient childcare places in Leixlip and there is a substantial waiting list, childcare providers didn't state exact numbers.

    My OH and I were due to sign a contract last week but pulled out due to COVID 19 and the associated implications.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    My OH and I were due to sign a contract last week but pulled out due to COVID 19 and the implications associated.

    What are the associated implications?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 PrometheusK


    buffalo wrote: »
    It's not in my back garden, it's nowhere near my house. I have however heard from the people who have moved into the area and paid large amounts of money based on the developer's promises of what the estate will look like - i.e. the current planning permission. They were told there was going to be houses behind/beside them, and that those houses were in fact already sold. Now a few months later, with sales of the houses nearby finalised, the plans are being completely changed. You can label those people as nimbys if you want, but as victims of those sort of outright lies, I don't think it really sticks.

    I am however waiting on the developer to build the creche, which is now the subject of an enforcement notice at it was supposed to be at least started by now. There was also supposed to be a playground and some pedestrian and cycling facilities. Instead the developer seems to be prioritising this block ahead of the creche, depriving the area of services in favour of lining their own pockets. I'm interested to see what power an enforcement notice has.

    As I said above, I'm all for places for people to live - if a block was proposed in the field beside my house, I would sigh and know that I'd miss my view, but I don't think I'd be objecting.

    I was told by estate agent in January 2020 that the creche was to be the built at the end of the development?

    we were due to sign a contract last week but pulled out due to current uncertainty. We felt house prices had peaked and a lot of the current phase on sale hadn't sold before the outbreak. Possible delay in finishing dates also put us off. Very possible these houses wont be finished until at least Christmas now.

    Is the playground guaranteed to be built?

    The opening of additional pedestrian entrances might be delayed due to ongoing construction? But I don't know for sure just a guess.

    Estate seems very nice


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 PrometheusK


    mp3guy wrote: »
    What are the associated implications?

    In my opinion house prices will drop. But I could be wrong, there is still a lot of demand for housing.

    A global economic recession is coming so we thought it was best to wait a few months and re-evaluate, especially as the house will not be finished until the end of Q3, confirmed by estate agent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭mp3guy


    In my opinion house prices will drop. But I could be wrong, there is still a lot of demand for housing.

    A global economic recession is coming so we thought it was best to wait a few months and re-evaluate, especially as the house will not be finished until the end of Q3, confirmed by estate agent

    Are you buying a house to live in or invest in?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 PrometheusK


    mp3guy wrote: »
    Are you buying a house to live in or invest in?

    To live, I get that point that it's a home vs investment but I just think waiting a few months for things to settle down is the right option.

    If the existing houses on sale were "flying off the shelves" we would most likely have purchased.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    To live, I get that point that it's a home vs investment but I just think waiting a few months for things to settle down is the right option.

    If the existing houses on sale were "flying off the shelves" we would most likely have purchased.

    COVID will impact you're mortgage eligibility long before it impacts the price of the house in a meaningful way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 PrometheusK


    COVID will impact you're mortgage eligibility long before it impacts the price of the house in a meaningful way.

    We are mortgage approved and have good savings so hopefully that won't be an issue, but a valid point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    I was told by estate agent in January 2020 that the creche was to be the built at the end of the development?

    we were due to sign a contract last week but pulled out due to current uncertainty. We felt house prices had peaked and a lot of the current phase on sale hadn't sold before the outbreak. Possible delay in finishing dates also put us off. Very possible these houses wont be finished until at least Christmas now.

    Is the playground guaranteed to be built?

    The opening of additional pedestrian entrances might be delayed due to ongoing construction? But I don't know for sure just a guess.

    Estate seems very nice

    Creche was supposed to be completed by the time 100 houses were built, 107 are now done, so it's well overdue.

    I wouldn't be holding my breath for a playground and will probably have to fight for the entrances. The playground isn't in the final PP so probably not enforceable. Site is shut down for the moment anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 Dec2020


    Do these houses come floored or do you have to get the flooring sorted yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭stdidit


    Dec2020 wrote: »
    Do these houses come floored or do you have to get the flooring sorted yourself?

    You have to do the flooring yourself.

    Worth noting that you get an allowance towards the tiling but be prepared to spend extra on the them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 Dec2020


    Ok thanks for that, do you how much the allowance is?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭stdidit


    Dec2020 wrote: »
    Ok thanks for that, do you how much the allowance is?

    It used to be 3k, probably still is. Might sound like a lot beware that you have to pay the tiler out of it as well plus you have to get the tiles in BTW in Naas who have a nice selection but they are pricey!


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 Dec2020


    Thanks for that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 30 Dec2020


    Whats your thoughts on the new access road planned?
    I saw this on the KCC Planning website:

    modifications to the existing entrance and the existing footpath and cycle lane to the western side of the R449 in order to provide a new left-in left-out vehicular access including pedestrian and cycle access from the R449 to an internal access road and junctions to facilitate the future development of "Collinstown Business Campus" together with public lighting, landscaping and associated services on its lands


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Dec2020 wrote: »
    Whats your thoughts on the new access road planned?
    I saw this on the KCC Planning website:

    modifications to the existing entrance and the existing footpath and cycle lane to the western side of the R449 in order to provide a new left-in left-out vehicular access including pedestrian and cycle access from the R449 to an internal access road and junctions to facilitate the future development of "Collinstown Business Campus" together with public lighting, landscaping and associated services on its lands
    It won't affect the estate; the works are for the other side of the road, and will avoid having a set of traffic lights between the two roundabouts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭hi!


    I’ve just been researching this estate as interested in the area, however 3 bed semi are now advertised at 415k....looking at the property price register two sites 19 & 17 the Park sold for €313k. Looking at the plans I see no 2beds so just wondering if anyone knows what house type these are? Or why they’re 100k less?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    hi! wrote: »
    I’ve just been researching this estate as interested in the area, however 3 bed semi are now advertised at 415k....looking at the property price register two sites 19 & 17 the Park sold for €313k. Looking at the plans I see no 2beds so just wondering if anyone knows what house type these are? Or why they’re 100k less?

    maybe took them at first fix or something, or possibly discounts after they figured out theres a 4 storey block of social apartments being snook in where there were supposed to be a row of houses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    hi! wrote: »
    I’ve just been researching this estate as interested in the area, however 3 bed semi are now advertised at 415k....looking at the property price register two sites 19 & 17 the Park sold for €313k. Looking at the plans I see no 2beds so just wondering if anyone knows what house type these are? Or why they’re 100k less?

    Looks like they're the Pike type, and therefore a good bit smaller than the rest - 106sqm compared to 142sqm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    maybe took them at first fix or something, or possibly discounts after they figured out theres a 4 storey block of social apartments being snook in where there were supposed to be a row of houses

    Planning permission has been refused by KCC for the proposed blocks near the entrance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 22 thekingof60


    Has there been any change to the fixtures and fittings provided phase to phase?

    Also would be interested in getting any views on the local area around Westfield as we are interested in the estate but not from the area so wouldnt know it at all.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    hi! wrote: »
    I’ve just been researching this estate as interested in the area, however 3 bed semi are now advertised at 415k....looking at the property price register two sites 19 & 17 the Park sold for €313k. Looking at the plans I see no 2beds so just wondering if anyone knows what house type these are? Or why they’re 100k less?

    Have you taken into account VAT at 13.5% which isn't recorded in the register?


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭hi!


    Graham wrote: »
    Have you taken into account VAT at 13.5% which isn't recorded in the register?

    Ah no I haven’t. Even +13.5% still a lot less than the 415k being advertised.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    €355k to €415k

    60k in the difference.

    Hard to comment without knowing how long ago the 355k house was sold and whether the 2 houses are comparable in terms of size/finish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭hi!


    Graham wrote: »
    €355k to €415k

    60k in the difference.

    Hard to comment without knowing how long ago the 355k house was sold and whether the 2 houses are comparable in terms of size/finish.

    Sold on the 15th and 16th June as per myhome property register. But yes not sure about sizes/finishes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 MauriceRKK


    Hi all,

    My partner and I just reserved a 3 bed on The Avenue and are being told September completion, which will be tight for AIP deadline.

    We have a few questions that we hope can be answered by buyers :-)

    How accurate have they been with completion estimates for those of you who bought there? Obviously, COVID-19 might have had a significant impact to some potential buyers so we're hoping no phase two of that craic.

    Is there anyone here on the forum that can tell me if they had any luck with suggesting any tweaks to the builder? i.e. door position of living room, bigger utility room, socket in attic?

    Also, does anyone know how many access points there are for Home Internet?

    Is there anyone here on the forum that bought the "Louisa" type house and has a stairwell that runs parallel to the living room as opposed to being "behind" the living room?

    Will be taking a trip out the show-house again next week for a look.

    TIA


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 maon04


    MauriceRKK wrote: »
    Hi all,

    My partner and I just reserved a 3 bed on The Avenue and are being told September completion, which will be tight for AIP deadline.

    We have a few questions that we hope can be answered by buyers :-)

    How accurate have they been with completion estimates for those of you who bought there? Obviously, COVID-19 might have had a significant impact to some potential buyers so we're hoping no phase two of that craic.

    Is there anyone here on the forum that can tell me if they had any luck with suggesting any tweaks to the builder? i.e. door position of living room, bigger utility room, socket in attic?

    Also, does anyone know how many access points there are for Home Internet?

    Is there anyone here on the forum that bought the "Louisa" type house and has a stairwell that runs parallel to the living room as opposed to being "behind" the living room?

    Will be taking a trip out the show-house again next week for a look.

    TIA


    Hi Maurice,

    Thats great news! Congratulations :)
    I can't help you with your questions really but I thought my experience so far could help/could be interesting for any new buyers in Westfield.

    Me and my boyfriend had reserved a 3bed Louisa in the Avenue, the 48 to be more exact. (For 415k and put down 10k deposit) Sadly we had to cancel as both of our jobs are considered at risk. We started the process early in the year so we needed to re apply for mortgage before actually getting the house. The problem is that we don't know if the banks will allow us to drawn the money as we are receiving covid payments so... quite frustrating.

    We have been dealing with a broker and the sales person on Sherry Fitz and both were very understanding with our situation. The sales p in Sherry Firtz started pushing right after builders started working again... she needed commitment from us as the builder needed to know how many houses in the Avenue are sold to keep building...
    They have told us that the houses will be ready around September but likely to be October (if you go to Westfield they have the one we were going to get build already which is the last up starting from the left if you are on the road looking at the houses)

    We tried to negotiate money/flooring with the builder because of the covid thinking they will accept it because they need to get rid of the houses but no luck. About the bigger utility room... no. In the Louisas the utility room is in the kitchen and only with space for a washing machine+dryer and perhaps few cabinets. To be honest I think the space is fair. Shelf on top of the machines is included.

    I hope anything I said there help you!

    All the luck


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JudyHz


    Hi all,

    We're looking to secure a property in Westfield, it does look like an amazing place (except for the pylons, but that's another story).

    I was hoping someone would have some insights on the pedestrian/cycling access between the state and R449, in front of the 52 to be more exact. Is it confirmed? Or would they need an extra permission to do that?

    During our visit we also noticed a partially built access on the Grove, beside the 04/09. Are they looking to open that anytime soon?

    I'll probably use the train daily, so having a quick access to R449 would be ideal. It would also reduce significantly the take it takes to get to Lidl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    JudyHz wrote: »
    Hi all,

    We're looking to secure a property in Westfield, it does look like an amazing place (except for the pylons, but that's another story).

    I was hoping someone would have some insights on the pedestrian/cycling access between the state and R449, in front of the 52 to be more exact. Is it confirmed? Or would they need an extra permission to do that?

    During our visit we also noticed a partially built access on the Grove, beside the 04/09. Are they looking to open that anytime soon?

    I'll probably use the train daily, so having a quick access to R449 would be ideal. It would also reduce significantly the take it takes to get to Lidl.

    It will be opened as part of the current development, no extra PP needed. No idea when it will happen though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 179 ✭✭Dylan94


    buffalo wrote: »
    It will be opened as part of the current development, no extra PP needed. No idea when it will happen though.

    Is the current plan for the development larger than what they have on the westfield website?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Dylan94 wrote: »
    Is the current plan for the development larger than what they have on the westfield website?

    You mean https://www.westfieldleixlip.ie/ ?

    That's accurate enough. They applied for PP to replace seven houses near the creche (8-14 The Avenue) with apartment blocks, but it was refused.


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 MauriceRKK


    maon04 wrote: »
    Hi Maurice,
    Sadly we had to cancel as both of our jobs are considered at risk. We started the process early in the year so we needed to re apply for mortgage before actually getting the house. The problem is that we don't know if the banks will allow us to drawn the money as we are receiving covid payments so... quite frustrating.

    Sorry to hear, sure hope it works out for you!
    maon04 wrote: »
    They have told us that the houses will be ready around September but likely to be October

    I'ts more likely to be October, which is fine by us :-)
    maon04 wrote: »
    About the bigger utility room... no. In the Louisas the utility room is in the kitchen and only with space for a washing machine+dryer and perhaps few cabinets. To be honest I think the space is fair. Shelf on top of the machines is included.
    That's fair enough, we went out to the show-house again to get a feel for it and to "measure it for curtains" so to speak. Agree the utility room is more than adequate, be lucky to have one at all. :) Very happy with the quality of the house in general.


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 MauriceRKK


    buffalo wrote: »
    It will be opened as part of the current development, no extra PP needed. No idea when it will happen though.

    Is that confirmed? It will be slap bang in front of #51 / 52 by the looks of it, which might help with getting to Louisa Station a bit quicker, but would like to know if any future traffic calming is planned (speed bumps, traffic lights). There doesn't seem to be anything on the Kildare County Council planning site to that effect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    MauriceRKK wrote: »
    Is that confirmed? It will be slap bang in front of #51 / 52 by the looks of it, which might help with getting to Louisa Station a bit quicker, but would like to know if any future traffic calming is planned (speed bumps, traffic lights). There doesn't seem to be anything on the Kildare County Council planning site to that effect.
    Perhaps a speed bump the west of the Leixlip Gate T junction. There's no traffic lights bar the pedestrian crossings along the Green Lane, so I doubt one will be put in outside Westfield.

    The shortcut at 51/52; depending on the layout to the estates north east, may get a lot of people coming in from Glen Easton, as the planning looks like there'll be car parking spaces along the east wall.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9 JudyHz


    There's a bit of green area here and there, but I can't find any reference to play area. Does anyone know if they'll include a play area as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭buffalo


    JudyHz wrote: »
    There's a bit of green area here and there, but I can't find any reference to play area. Does anyone know if they'll include a play area as well?

    There were a couple in the original PP (and advertising), but dropped along the way to the final version I think. :mad:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Weaselmin


    Does anyone have a copy of the latest price list? Noticed on daft it says 3-beds starting at 390k, but in the description it says 415k!


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