Porsche 924 Superthread

Dades · 10-02-2017 3:57pm

Is that the hook for a sun visor? I don't even know if I have one!

Dades · 16-03-2017 5:00pm

Very neat job!

And look at you all posh with no duct tape in your engine bay. :P

Dades · 04-04-2017 9:48am

The trip meter is a bit of a giveaway...

Dades · 10-07-2017 10:49pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Also good to finally meet Dades by accident on Saturday! Your car looked very nice although it needs a good wash like mine :pac:

Rectified that this evening! Spit and polish and a bit of a touch up on the alloys while I was at it.

Nice to finally put a face to a name, too. Looking forward to a 924 adventure some day.

Dades · 10-07-2017 10:53pm

In other news, my drivers window has been stuck (up, thankfully) for a while now. Previously I've been able to get it shifting by either cleaning/swapping the switches or lubing up the mechanism. No longer it seems.

When I try to power the window, all that happens is a faint click from the vicinity of the motor.

I really don't fancy changing the motor... but is that task inevitably in my future? :pac:

unkel · 16-07-2017 11:35pm

Happened on my 928. Got intermittent first, then stopped altogether. Found a motor really cheap in a USA Porsche only dismantlers. As in €70 incl shipping. Versus GBP175 from Traynors and €400 from Porsche. Can't find a link to where I bought it, you'll need to google it / find it yourself.

Dades · 18-07-2017 3:35pm

Thanks, I have a couple of contacts for parts. I'm going to give one more try to getting it moving though before I commit to changing it.

Just wondering what is the regulator? Is that the X mechanism that pushes the window up/down?

Dades · 18-07-2017 3:51pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

I can't remember but is there a relay involved with the windows? Thats what could be the clicking noise.

Almost certain the click is coming from the door (i.e. the motor area).

I don't think there's a relay in there in fact I think the window relay might be on its own near the centre console to the right of the passenger footwell. At least I always thought that what it did!

Edit: Also, the passenger window works fine.

Dades · 18-07-2017 4:18pm

That is the final (pre new motor) plan!

Am driving to Wexford tomorrow though so might wait till after that in case I feck something up. :pac:

Dades · 18-07-2017 11:12pm

Had an hour this evening to try and get the window motor running.

Took off the door card (again) and hooked the battery direct up to the motor. Up, down, up, down...

WD-40'd the whole lot while whirring it up and down and put it all back together with a newly cleaned switch - all seems okay for now. Not exactly zipping up and down, but working. But for how long.... hmmm.

salysol · 21-07-2017 12:17pm

Dades wrote: »

Had an hour this evening to try and get the window motor running.

Took off the door card (again) and hooked the battery direct up to the motor. Up, down, up, down...

WD-40'd the whole lot while whirring it up and down and put it all back together with a newly cleaned switch - all seems okay for now. Not exactly zipping up and down, but working. But for how long.... hmmm.

Electrical problems on the 924/944 are usually caused by the earth connectors corroding, try giving the earth connectors at the back of the fuse board a good clean with steel wool,it might sort it

Dades · 21-07-2017 1:35pm

I think the earths are okay as I have a look in there occasionally when checking fuses. I'd have thought bad earths near the fuseboard would affect both windows.

Window is still back operating - faster! - so i'm thinking of booking it in early for this year's NCT!

Dades · 28-07-2017 10:21am

Hmmm. Slammed the door shut yesterday and the window stopped operating straight after.

Suggests to me a dodgy connection somewhere. When it was operating and lubed the motor was working no problem.

Off with the door card again this morning, so.

EDIT: Back working again after some tweaking. Stupid door.

Dades · 18-10-2017 10:11am

Few things I need to address in my NCT that require experts who hopefully have subscribed to this thread!

Rear Fog Lamps
Apparently my "Fog Lamp indicator not working correctly". Where the heck is this? Is this a circular light set high into the dashboard? My mechanic is convinced there is no such indicator. Are the rear fogs the lights turned on by one of the switches behind the gearshift? I know nothing of this!

Windscreen washers
Does anyone with a 924 have these working well? I've already fitted a replacement motor but only a dribble comes out. We sprayed compressed air in the tubes, and the issue seems to be the lack of water being sent into the tubes. Is there some other hack or fix around the reservoir or do I need an off the shelf motor that isn't tired?

Thoughts welcome!

Dades · 18-10-2017 11:14am

Thanks!

Maybe it is something as simple as my reservoir being full of goo. Sunday might even be a runner. I'll get back to you once I've checked my (children's) schedule.

You'll bring a welder, right? :pac:

Dades · 18-10-2017 1:21pm

Thanks again, I'll PM you separate. That said - there's a fair chance my car will be in over the weekend, so we'll see.

****

Just searching re my own question of rear fog lamps. I'm assuming the ass NCT tester means the fog lamp indicator doesn't come when the rear fogs are on....

This thread here seems to suggest that the rear fogs don't come on unless the fronts are on. If that's the case, then the indicator would never come on unless the front fogs are on too. Meaning if the light comes on then (pretty sure it does) that all is in fact fine.

EDIT: I tested this switch tonight - there's no rear fogs. I think it switches on bumper lights. Confirm anyone?!

Dades · 18-01-2018 10:39am

Got into the car this morning to find I couldn't get the headlight switch to work! The switch is stuck fast in the OFF position - it won't depress to the ON position.

Luckily it wasn't too grim this morning so I could still drive in, but I'm going to have to leave early today if I can't get the lights on before dusk. I'm out on the Long Mile Road and not willing to risk leave the 924 where my office is overnight.

I've looked into how the switch comes out - any thoughts on whether it can be fixed on the fly, or if the lights can be switched on another way?

Thanks

deckie27 · 18-01-2018 12:14pm

The switch has a couple of light plastic "wedge" type springs on it
get your hand "or fingers" in behind and it will pop out easy enough with a little giggle

The switch is probably slightly ceased.
when out you may be able to free it. or you could try spraying a bit of contact cleaner inside to see if this will help

The switch comes apart easy enough.
Just be careful as a spring or 2 might want to go flying and note to location of possible little copper C shaped connectors

Best of lucK

Dades · 18-01-2018 12:45pm

Scraped knuckles here we go. :pac:

flc37ie6ojwkh8 · 18-01-2018 2:55pm

The 924 has a poor quality interior, apart from that, it's a great car.

Dades · 18-01-2018 3:03pm

Okay, so I got the switch out. Scraped-knuckles.com

Actually, I got it out from the dash easy enough - the hard part was separating it from the wiring. One of the terminals(?) seems to have got seized so much it came out of the switch before the wiring.

Other than the back, the switch looks perfect. It just doesn't work and is stubbornly refusing to be examined. :mad:

I may have to seek a replacement, and maybe a replacement bit for it to plug into from a breaker...

EDIT:
My and workmate got the thing open. It's ain't for fixin'. Even if the switch mechanism was working - the damaged terminal has rendered it useless.

Mitchomagic · 28-01-2018 10:47pm

Hi

Whats the going values for 924 ?. I know where the is 1,its a project 79,needs sills etc and a good going over but its a runner, might make an offer but need ideas on what offer to make?,what are the things to watch out for when buying one ? also what are good examples worth, might be better to go down that road then a project depending on values

thanks

Dades · 29-01-2018 12:20pm

Mitchomagic wrote: »

Hi

Whats the going values for 924 ?. I know where the is 1,its a project 79,needs sills etc and a good going over but its a runner, might make an offer but need ideas on what offer to make?,what are the things to watch out for when buying one ? also what are good examples worth, might be better to go down that road then a project depending on values

thanks

A 1979 at least won't have the pain of an NCT, but without knowing what state the car is in it's impossible to put a value on it. At the very least you want it running and stopping well. Otherwise it's a few hundred quid project car. What kind of mileage is on it? How's the interior? Usually a good indicator of age and treatment. The dashboard will probably have cracks in it but most every 924 does.

The electrics might be a source of pain if they're not up to scratch, so I'd be asking about the windows (hopefully manual winders in a '79), wipers, lamps, etc.

I just had €500 of welding work done including sills and more, but the car is my daily driver.

That said, I'm thinking seriously about parting with her this year as it's not really feasible to maintain my commute. I have to have a car 5 days a week and daft things (like a faulty headlight switch) that wouldn't be an issue with a weekend car are now showstoppers. Would be a serious wrench for me though. :eek:

Dades · 29-01-2018 3:18pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Dont do it! I have a daily and two classics and I havent driven any of them in a week :pac:

Unless I got a decent price for the 924 I wouldn't dream of it. But if it can part fund something (mildly interesting) I can get to work in every day then I'll have to consider it.

Keeping three cars on the road isn't ideal when I've already three kids to keep fed!

Dades · 30-01-2018 11:44am

Just an update on my headlights (for anyone with future issues)...

Turns out my mechanic is right. Don't be messing about with untested second hand parts if you can pick up what you need new.

I got a hold of a second hand earlier switch which I managed to get into the dock on my loom. (I had to cut an old spade adaptor out of the dock and add in a new one).

Could only get half lamps working, but the garage next door to me in work took apart the switch and cleaned it up a bit - including some melted bits - and now with some fiddling I can get the full beams up.

I've now ordered a new one from porscheshop.co.uk which I should have done in the first place.

salysol · 01-02-2018 2:19pm

If any of the 924 owners on here need some parts, i might have what you need.

salysol · 01-02-2018 3:59pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

+1

You helped me out sourcing a steering rack that was in far better shape than the one that was in my 924.

That's a few years ago now !!!

Dades · 16-02-2018 6:16pm

Thumbs up for a new battery! It's a new lease of life for the old electronics!

My folks gave me a Diffneys voucher for Christmas.

Dades · 10-03-2018 11:08pm

What the.... say it's not so.

I've decided I can't part with mine.

Dades · 23-07-2018 11:32am

Looking good!

What did you do to them? Is that black lacquer paint?

Dades · 23-07-2018 11:54am

Good stuff. Summer jobs need doing!

Dades · 04-09-2018 12:41pm

Possible pre-emptive question here...

The 924 is running great. I've just noticed when starting that there's a bit of an extra, sharp whirring sound from the [starter motor?] after the car has come to life. Happening the last couple of weeks.

Wondering if this is a symptom of something about to blow.

Just had a quick look at starter motors - not cheap!

Dades · 04-09-2018 3:27pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Do you have the airduct piping that runs from the front down to the starter motor?

I have no idea. I didn't even know where the starter motor was until I found a youtube video 2 minutes ago. :P

What form does this piping take and I will check later!

Seweryn · 05-11-2018 2:55pm

Opening windows when driving will not help but rather make the situation worse.

Check the hatch seal (or just replace for the peace of mind) and also the round hatch lock seal.

Next thing you can do is remove the rear lights and reseal them in the body with silicone sealant. Other thing is the gear lever gaiter - check if it is reasonably sealed from underneath with the sponge fill, etc.

Also check the exhaust pipe itself for leaks

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Dades · 21-11-2018 6:36pm

Developed a nasty rattle on the way to work yesterday... wasn't firing on all cylinders I reckoned. Was close to home so got my insurance breakdown to get me trailered to the garage beside me in work. Turns out it's the head gasket. Gone between 3&4 cylinders, it seems.

The garage - who have been brilliant in getting lots of stuff done the last year - is quoting 700 quid (all in) to sort it out. It's run by an old timer who know his old cars (selling a 356) and tbh, I don't think I'll do better.

Upkeep has been fairly hefty this year, but only equivalent to maybe a couple of years tax and insurance on some piece of crap non-classic replacement (which might itself start needing work). That's what I'm telling myself anyway.

Need to get back on the bike Mon-Fri!!

MrCostington · 21-11-2018 9:52pm

That's a pity, but the 700 sounds very reasonable, considering the work involved. Good that you have a garage you trust. Might as well get a new timing belt/chain and water pump while it's all apart, and a coolant flush?

Good luck with the bike

Dades · 21-11-2018 10:34pm

MrCostington wrote: »

That's a pity, but the 700 sounds very reasonable, considering the work involved. Good that you have a garage you trust. Might as well get a new timing belt/chain and water pump while it's all apart, and a coolant flush?

Not a bad idea to get some extra stuff done. Might let them lead on that when they're in there. Not a good time of year for surprise bills. :pac:

MrCostington wrote: »

Good luck with the bike

Will require a change in day job. On the roadmap though!

Dades · 23-11-2018 12:34pm

What kind of extra labour is needed to do the timing belt if the head is off?

Money and time is tight!

Seweryn · 23-11-2018 12:41pm

Dades wrote: »

What kind of extra labour is needed to do the timing belt if the head is off?

Money and time is tight!

Very little or none actually because the belt will removed before the head is taken off anyway.

Then replacing the water pump if you want (cheap) will only add minutes to the task.

Dades · 23-11-2018 2:35pm

Just dropped in to the garage beside me to check progress.
Gasket probably won't arrive until Tuesday, but have ensured timing belt definitely getting done as well.

It's a DART and a LUAS to and from work until it gets done.

MrCostington · 23-11-2018 3:53pm

Is the head getting skimmed?

Dades · 23-11-2018 5:40pm

MrCostington wrote: »

Is the head getting skimmed?

I can't remember the full gist of my chat with the mechanics. I trust the lads to do the right thing when the time comes.

Does it always need skimming? Or only if there's warping/damage?

Kenny Logins · 23-11-2018 6:37pm

Dades wrote: »

I can't remember the full gist of my chat with the mechanics. I trust the lads to do the right thing when the time comes.

Does it always need skimming? Or only if there's warping/damage?

If even just to clean up the sealing surface, I would.

MrCostington · 23-11-2018 6:56pm

Dades wrote: »

Does it always need skimming? Or only if there's warping/damage?

Not sure TBH, but I think warping is usually or often the cause of gasket failures.

If you have an hour to kill, VERY interesting guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06l5jHMZt0Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDf_IrEEbYg

PS, understand budget etc, but now would be a great time to check your valve seats/guide too.

I swear, I don't have shares in your garage:)

Dades · 28-11-2018 4:39pm

A couple of work in progress pics...

Head off in anticipation of a new gasket:

The old gasket - gone exactly where they said they thought it had:

Santa's bringing a new timing belt and fuel pump, too.

Also recommended I pick up a breather hose.
Looking at this one on eBay at the moment, unless anyone has a spare knocking around.

Dades · 29-11-2018 3:12pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

^

You also still don't have your cooling pipe to your alternator

Hmmm. I bought one of those... and I'm pretty sure I fitted it too!
Are we talking about my old one that was all cracked and patched up with duct tape?

I can only assume they removed whatever was there for access.

Dades · 29-11-2018 5:25pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Are they going to clean up the top of the pistons etc? Decent bit of carbon build up

I assume so! Far be it from me to micro manage the process.

They're also looking at my drivers door handle, which after years of being somewhat sticky, finally popped off when the rescue truck driver yanked too hard.

Hoping to get her back tomorrow.

MrCostington · 30-11-2018 3:14pm

Dades wrote: »

Hoping to get her back tomorrow.

Good luck!

Dades · 30-11-2018 6:58pm

Back in the saddle!

Picked her up and about to make the trip home. Will be very relieved if all goes well.

Not a night to be stranded. :pac:

MrCostington · 01-12-2018 11:11am

Did you make it, or are you still sleeping in the car:)

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