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Your favourite unsolved mystery?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Karona wrote: »

    +1

    This mystery has a lot of aspects about which make me uncomfortable to say the least about going into a canadian forest alone.

    By the way that article isnt great read john greens book on the subject its fascinating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    Mega Chin wrote: »
    I think its clear these people suffered from a severe case of funk

    I blame it on the boogie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Laci_Peterson

    there's a lot of evidence that this trial was badly handled and the conviction may be faulty,

    http://www.opordanalytical.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=118&sid=bfb8acdd903d94e3e435c3e38891b905

    and then there was the IKLP-I Killed Laci Peterson cypher (very zodiac-esque)

    http://www.opordanalytical.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=108&sid=bfb8acdd903d94e3e435c3e38891b905


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    How did an accounts clerk ruin our country?


  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭SdoowSirhc



    Its called a numbers station. Agencies use them to communicate messages to spies/special ops etc. in codes such as numbers and tones and voice messages


  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭SdoowSirhc


    Yeah! I love these urban ninjas of the western world!:cool: lol
    The mad Gasser, Springheeled Jack and not but definatly no least.... WHIPPING TOM!:P
    Whipping Tom ran around spanking ladies:confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭SdoowSirhc


    Sofaspud wrote: »
    I blame it on the boogie.
    Elementary my dear Watson:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Lorrs33


    The Bermuda Triangle, Maddie McCann and Area 51.


  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭SdoowSirhc


    Lorrs33 wrote: »
    The Bermuda Triangle, Maddie McCann and Area 51.
    No offence but what is the mystery about area 51?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Shergar: Did he end up as dog food, or glue, or a Frenchman's meal?

    The lads who took him had to destroy him as they had no stallion experience and horse went bananas. There was a story going the rounds that he lived and was used to cover mares under a different name,most unlikely these days with dna/blood tests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Karona




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Lorrs33


    SdoowSirhc wrote: »
    No offence but what is the mystery about area 51?

    If it harbours aliens and their ships or not. Where have you been??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭Randy Shafter


    The Chupacabra
    Area 51 and what technology has been developed there since
    Paranormal entities like orbs, dark figures, ghosts etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭SdoowSirhc


    Lorrs33 wrote: »
    If it harbours aliens and their ships or not. Where have you been??
    Lol, i know about the alien stories and stuff... But its an aircraft testing ground so that includes UFO's.. so its not a mystery in a true sense (sorry, I have no good arguement so I'm talking BS..:o)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭carlybabe1


    Who left a fcuking log like a Hippo's front leg in the shitters in the Weston last Thursday.

    Ffcuker must have a hole like the sleeve of an overcoat:eek:

    Had to beat the fcuker down with the corner of me laptop.

    :D:D:D How does FB come out with these and other classics. pmsl


    On a more serious note, I think its a great riddle that the church managed to get away with horrendous abuse for so long, and nobody investigated it :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Obelisk wrote: »

    I've watched that clip numerous times and I can't see the driver shooting anyone - I honestly can't!

    Besides, if Jackie knew who really shot her husband, why wasn't she silenced too?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    The story of the Mary Celeste.


    Sorry. Whilst that one's fascinated me since my own childhood; I'm afraid it's since been 'blown out of the water' as a 'Big Mystery'.

    The Facts just steam roll the 'Urban Myth' aspects that have long since grown up around it all.

    http://www.maryceleste.net/

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Mary Celeste. Or whatever that ship was that was found with no crew, nothing in the llog and the breakfast table still set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


    ^ I heard there was a theory of some kind of fire and the crew panicked and abandoned it, drowning; but the fire was some odd kind of fire that didnt burn things? I cant remember where I heard it.

    Anyway, my favourite is the Bloop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop
    Maddie McCann, any alien stories and the Bermuda Triangle are all amazingly interesting too. :D


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Is pop music dead ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭VenusPlays


    Where do the missing socks go?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    Nevore wrote: »
    Mary Celeste. Or whatever that ship was that was found with no crew, nothing in the llog and the breakfast table still set.
    Patchy~ wrote: »
    ^ I heard there was a theory of some kind of fire and the crew panicked and abandoned it, drowning; but the fire was some odd kind of fire that didnt burn things? I cant remember where I heard it.


    :rolleyes: Left and right at epic fails. Don't you people even read threads?

    See Post # 219 .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Yeah, apparently the empty barrels were red oak rather than the more solid qhite oak that the full casks were made of. The theory goes that the alchohol leeched through as a gas filling the hold with vapour and the metal bindings rubbign off each other ignited them. Big explosion, no flames. Scare the living bejesus outo f the sailors and they abandon ship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Ditch wrote: »
    " But, there was no way to see if she was sexually traumatized or not. In the morning. "

    :confused: How come? Are we extrapolate then that she also suffered a severe axe wound to the ..... well ... 'Axe Wound '. A nasty gash to the .....


    Not terribly funny. In fact, not even amusing. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,879 ✭✭✭Coriolanus


    Ditch wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Left and right at epic fails. Don't you people even read threads?

    See Post # 219 .....
    Did you even read the website? He's trying to sell a book. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,688 ✭✭✭storker


    Enough of this trivia...time to address the really important mysteries:
    • Jedward (nuff said)
    • Why does the other queue always move faster?
    • Has anyone ever been served a MacDonald's burger that actually looked like the photo?
    • Why can we send men to the moon and build the Hubble telescope that can peek into the furthest corners of the galaxy, but we still can't come up with a milk carton that opens reliably?
    • What's all the fuss about Grainne Seoige?
    • Why is it that whenever you change channels on satellite, there's always an ad break on?
    • Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?
    • Who told Keanu Reeves he could act?
    • Who told women that pouting was sexy?
    • Where did Anne Doyle get that ridiculous accent?
    • How evil can a spirit really be, if wind chimes are enough to scare it away?
    ...continued on p.94

    Stork


  • Registered Users Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Michael 09


    Has Princess Diana been mentioned???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Karona


    Nope not yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    Soviet Sub K-129 sinks March 8th 1968

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-129_%281960%29

    March 17th 1968, USS Swordfish limps into port in Japan for repairs after hitting an "Iceberg"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-129_%281960%29#Collision_with_USS_Swordfish

    May 22nd 1968,USS Scorpion is lost in the Atlantic with all hands
    no conclusive verdict is reached on her sinking

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Scorpion_%28SSN-589%29

    (interesting to note that since 1967,senior warrant officer John A. Walker was leaking naval info to the KGB,including encryption codes to a Navy cypher machine that the north Koreans capture in January 1968)

    http://www.usni.org/magazines/navalhistory/2010-06/navys-biggest-betrayal

    does his betrayal lead to the sinking of the USS Scorpion?

    1974 the Huges Glomar Explorer raises a section of K-129
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Glomar_Explorer_%28T-AG-193%29

    Russian sailors recovered are shown to be buried at sea in this declassified video



    In 1985 Robert Ballard carries out a detailed study of USS Scorpion on behalf of the Navy (Ballard;a former Intelligence officer,was still a Naval Reserve officer at the time) it was this financing by the Navy that allowed him to discover the RMS Titanic only after he had studied the USS Scorpion wreck

    to me the dates of these three incidents in the beginning of 1968 seem far too close together to be mere coincidence,unfortunately much of the evidence is still classified so the mystery remains


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Ditch


    Not terribly funny. In fact, not even amusing. :rolleyes:

    Nevore wrote: »
    Did you even read the website? He's trying to sell a book. :rolleyes:


    And there we have it; The perfect platform from which ye can each demonstrate ye own, better grasps of the situations :)

    1/ Why was this ..... what? 'Supposed'? 'Imagined'? 'Fantasised' ? " Sexual Trauma " not able to be proven / disproven?

    Who ~ originally ~ even brought it up, at the time? It's like the supposition that the killer returned to the adults bedroom and gave them some more:

    Says who? Based on what? Sorry; Just smacks of more Wikishit.




    2/ " He's trying to sell a book. " So ....? He's dedicated himself to some pretty heavy research into the case. He's dug out and studied original papers. He obviously knows his shit.

    But, if he'd like to recoup some of his effort from selling his work, he's a " :rolleyes: " ?


    Jesus :( Have we Really reached a stage where the mentality of, " I want it Now. I want it for as few key strokes as I can use. I want it for Free. "

    " Damn Paying; There's Got To Be Someone, Somewhere, on line that'll allow me to just Take what I want. Now; Before I 404. "

    That is a mystery, to me. When the hell did that mind set take over?

    Only, could we please separate the answers into the " -40 and 40+ " age groups. That could be fun!

    Yeah; Or the subject of a whole new thread .....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 433 ✭✭raveni


    Michael 09 wrote: »
    Has Princess Diana been mentioned???
    Now she has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭eskimocat


    Which came first: Chicken or the egg! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,922 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    eskimocat wrote: »
    Which came first: Chicken or the egg! :pac:


    The Egg came first an animal similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken egg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    eskimocat wrote: »
    Which came first: Chicken or the egg! :pac:

    The egg did!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭falan




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Karona wrote: »

    I found something similar to this last year while walking in a field in Offaly, really odd stuff, just semi transparent blobs sitting on the grass. It was a bit like frogspawn without the tadpoles. I didn't think too much about it, apparently the BBC did some research on this phenomenon but didn't come up with a conclusive explanation, an algae expert told them he was convinced it wasn't plant or animal. I reckon it's Zeus' semen fallen to Earth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    The lads who took him had to destroy him as they had no stallion experience and horse went bananas. There was a story going the rounds that he lived and was used to cover mares under a different name,most unlikely these days with dna/blood tests.
    What DNA tests? Shergar was kidnapped in the early 1980s, DNA databases became a feature of performance horse recording only much later. I think it's quite possible that if there were any records of Shergar's DNA left behind, that his descendants may be traced in the future.

    Of course part of the problem is that the mares he may have covered may only have been very insubstantial animals or local broodmares, given the low profile that would have been necessary for his abductors to have kept. Therefore his progeny may have gone on to compete at little more than local hunter trials or riding club meets.

    I'm not sure why it is that people suggest that Shergar was shot because he was a stallion, I think there's a certain level of exaggeration involved in how difficult it is perceived to be to handle stallions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    later10 wrote: »
    What DNA tests? Shergar was kidnapped in the early 1980s, DNA databases became a feature of performance horse recording only much later. I think it's quite possible that if there were any records of Shergar's DNA left behind, that his descendants may be traced in the future.

    Of course part of the problem is that the mares he may have covered may only have been very insubstantial animals or local broodmares, given the low profile that would have been necessary for his abductors to have kept. Therefore his progeny may have gone on to compete at little more than local hunter trials or riding club meets.

    I'm not sure why it is that people suggest that Shergar was shot because he was a stallion, I think there's a certain level of exaggeration involved in how difficult it is perceived to be to handle stallions.

    Wasn't Shergar a notoriously ill-tempered beast though? I suppose the handling of stallions would also depend on how experienced one is with horses. Someone who doesn't know anything about a highly-strung racehorse apart from that it's worth a lot of money may have some difficulty in handling it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Oh, and let's not forget Jesus. I'm still mystified as to whether he is the son of God or the greatest con artist in history.


    Forgive me God.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Shag Harbour

    I love how they searched the place for a week and then the object was seen leaving the water a mile or so down the coast.
    USO in general have always fascinated me...
    Saw something on BBC news site last night about reports of an blue object crashing into Loch Ness of all places...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-14606660

    Oh and whilst looking for links to shag harbour I came across this extract from a magazine extract on the subject of USOs:
    Five years earlier, a similar air-to-surface sighting took place in another part of the North Atlantic. On July 4th, 1958, Captain Raymond B. Foppe, a transatlantic pilot for Pan American Airways was making a cargo flight from Prestwick, Scotland to New York City. About 600 miles due west of the northern tip of Ireland, he sighted a strange -- and very large -- submerged object. He radioed: 'Large green object sighted underwater off coast of Ireland. Position 52degrees north. The entire object submerged.'
    "Prestwick Oceanic Control also heard Foppe add that it was (or appeared to be) '… an iceberg, about five square miles in area.' The British Admiralty warned ships clear of the area, but Coastal Command at Plymouth refused to act. They said it wasn't possible for an iceberg to exist in the Gulf Stream. Nevertheless, a search plane took off from Londonderry R.A.F. station to pinpoint it. After it searched for several hours without success, officials at Mount Batten, in Plymouth, were thoroughly puzzled. What had the American transport pilot seen that was so large, submerged and of a different color than the ocean water? What could cover an area of five square miles, then vanish so quickly? Was it merely sunlight reflected on the sea? Or a large school of fish?
    "Almost a year later, a similar sighting was made in the same general area, but nearer to Ireland. Captain H. Macfarland [sic], piloting a jet airliner between New York and Paris, reported another large green patch, or stain, on the surface of the water 200 miles west of Ireland. Puzzled, he asked for permission to descend to 1000 feet. For fully 20 minutes, he circled the green mass, examining the odd phenomenon at close range. He said he clearly saw bubbles rise and burst at the surface and steam rising from the stain. His conclusion was that some manner of volcanic disturbance was taking place on the ocean floor.

    Good thread, been reading links most of the evening.
    Someone mentioned Flight 19 already...whatever about 1 pilot f*cking up, a whole squadron and a rescue plane belonging to the USAF over shallow water whilst in radio contact in clear weather just makes no sense at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Wasn't Shergar a notoriously ill-tempered beast though?
    That should be nothing difficult for the most novice of handlers. Even the most belligerent of stallions are usually capable of being handled in a standard bridle & chain... I really doubt this came into play in any decision to destroy Shergar, if he was destroyed, which I'd doubt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    later10 wrote: »
    That should be nothing difficult for the most novice of handlers. Even the most belligerent of stallions are usually capable of being handled in a standard bridle & chain... I really doubt this came into play in any decision to destroy Shergar, if he was destroyed, which I'd doubt.

    Not sure about that at all. I have a background with horses, and they're incredibly strong animals. I've been knocked to the ground on numerous occasions by horses, as well as being head-butted, bitten and kicked. Someone who is not experienced with horses would simply not be in a position to handle an animal that is difficult (I don't know exactly how difficult Shergar was to handle, I'm only going on what I've heard). For example, regardless of whether the horse was in a bridle, I would still never, ever allow anyone who I knew to be inexperienced with horses handle a horse that may be difficult to handle. Also, we don't know the circumstances of what happened to the animal after it was stolen, what sort of situation the thiefs had him in and if the situation may have agitated or frightened the horse (given horses are extremely volatile and spooky).

    It's an interesting story anyway, I guess. This is an interesting article on the matter, with input from a former IRA member who claims to know what happened. According to him, the poor creature met quite a grisly end.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1576718/The-truth-about-Shergar-racehorse-kidnapping.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Not sure about that at all. I have a background with horses, and they're incredibly strong animals. I've been knocked to the ground on numerous occasions by horses, as well as being head-butted, bitten and kicked. Someone who is not experienced with horses would simply not be in a position to handle an animal that is difficult (I don't know exactly how difficult Shergar was to handle, I'm only going on what I've heard).
    Well that's presuming that the handlers had no experience in handling horses, and I think 'incredibly strong' is a bit misleading. A horse is only strong insofar as you actually need to handle him, and apart from sticking this stallion into a yard full of animals or into a paddock with other animals, I'm not convinced that there would have been any real difficulty.

    Also the article you link to doesn't suggest anything to do with difficulty in handling Shergar as being a cause of his death, but rather (the oh so typical) fear of being caught on behalf of his captors.

    I'm really not sure why the apparent 'difficulty' in handling a stallion gets mentioned so much - presumably by a media unaccustomed to handling horses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    later10 wrote: »
    Well that's presuming that the handlers had no experience in handling horses

    I don't think that they did.

    And also, I think it's very misleading to underestimate the strength of a horse. Dealing with horses is a high risk activity. It's very easy to lose control of them, it only takes a split second for the tables to be turned on a handler. You can never be too careful, and if someone is inexperienced and also in a tense situation, then I can see how it could get out of control quite easily.

    Personally, I think it was the IRA who killed him, and I doubt we'll ever know where they buried him. Sometimes things just are what they appear to be, and I think this is one of those situations.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    Dealing with horses is a high risk activity.
    Eh, no it really, really isn't. I'm not sure what sort of quasi dinosaurs you think you've been dealing with, but most racehorses are actually pretty standard to deal with, be they stallions or not.

    What exactly makes you think the people involved in this case would have had no experience with horses? That seems highly unlikely from a logical point of view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭maninasia


    Wertz wrote: »
    Shag Harbour

    I love how they searched the place for a week and then the object was seen leaving the water a mile or so down the coast.
    USO in general have always fascinated me...
    Saw something on BBC news site last night about reports of an blue object crashing into Loch Ness of all places...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-14606660

    Oh and whilst looking for links to shag harbour I came across this extract from a magazine extract on the subject of USOs:
    Five years earlier, a similar air-to-surface sighting took place in another part of the North Atlantic. On July 4th, 1958, Captain Raymond B. Foppe, a transatlantic pilot for Pan American Airways was making a cargo flight from Prestwick, Scotland to New York City. About 600 miles due west of the northern tip of Ireland, he sighted a strange -- and very large -- submerged object. He radioed: 'Large green object sighted underwater off coast of Ireland. Position 52degrees north. The entire object submerged.'
    "Prestwick Oceanic Control also heard Foppe add that it was (or appeared to be) '… an iceberg, about five square miles in area.' The British Admiralty warned ships clear of the area, but Coastal Command at Plymouth refused to act. They said it wasn't possible for an iceberg to exist in the Gulf Stream. Nevertheless, a search plane took off from Londonderry R.A.F. station to pinpoint it. After it searched for several hours without success, officials at Mount Batten, in Plymouth, were thoroughly puzzled. What had the American transport pilot seen that was so large, submerged and of a different color than the ocean water? What could cover an area of five square miles, then vanish so quickly? Was it merely sunlight reflected on the sea? Or a large school of fish?
    "Almost a year later, a similar sighting was made in the same general area, but nearer to Ireland. Captain H. Macfarland [sic], piloting a jet airliner between New York and Paris, reported another large green patch, or stain, on the surface of the water 200 miles west of Ireland. Puzzled, he asked for permission to descend to 1000 feet. For fully 20 minutes, he circled the green mass, examining the odd phenomenon at close range. He said he clearly saw bubbles rise and burst at the surface and steam rising from the stain. His conclusion was that some manner of volcanic disturbance was taking place on the ocean floor.


    Good thread, been reading links most of the evening.
    Someone mentioned Flight 19 already...whatever about 1 pilot f*cking up, a whole squadron and a rescue plane belonging to the USAF over shallow water whilst in radio contact in clear weather just makes no sense at all.

    Probably a patch of phosphorescent plankton.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence
    Volcanic activity or methane is also a possibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    The Big Bang and the origins of the universe.
    Multiverses.
    Dark Matter.
    Black Holes and Singularities.

    Mind melting stuff when you read about them and shows how little we actually know or have yet to discover.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Obelisk


    I've watched that clip numerous times and I can't see the driver shooting anyone - I honestly can't!

    I can see what they are talking about, deffo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Overtoun bridge in scotland - an apparent dog suicide bridge.Dozens of dogs have jumped to their deaths from it - some which survived have jumped again.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtoun_House#Overtoun_Bridge_dog_deaths


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