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punisher5112 · 26-10-2018 7:21pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

Anybody know anything about the Disco? On trial?

Speaking of which I saw a previous model Discovery in use with the Coast Guard.

Coast Guard has a few and so does Civil Defense.

Seen order of Malta with 1 or 2 also.

punisher5112 · 26-10-2018 7:24pm

Amazing to see they still have 2007 fiestas, focus and mondeos knocking about. And of course still some older ones too.

California Dreamer · 26-10-2018 7:31pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Coast Guard has a few and so does Civil Defense.

Seen order of Malta with 1 or 2 also.

You would get nearly 2 LWB Pajero's for the cost of a Disco!

punisher5112 · 26-10-2018 7:35pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

You would get nearly 2 LWB Pajero's for the cost of a Disco!

Even though the Pajero is now so old I still really like them.

Few cop ones going around, look very well with full reflective gear.

Seen one yesterday on call on Eden quay, siren sounded good.

Sirens on BMW X5, Audi Q7 are absolutely Sh1te.

I can believe they done nothing with the i30 and i40 unmarked units as you can't see the lights in the day and near impossible at night.

27-10-2018 8:18am

I believe that Land Rover is attached to the Water Unit.

kub · 02-11-2018 10:38pm

foreign wrote: »

I believe that Land Rover is attached to the Water Unit.

I was thinking the same judging by the pulley hook on the front of it.

POGAN · 10-11-2018 2:34am

kub wrote: »

I was thinking the same judging by the pulley hook on the front of it.

It is some more Gucci fleet coming that way

California Dreamer · 31-12-2018 10:06am

New Year, new cars and all that.

How long more is the Hyundai contract for or will we see new vehicle brands this year for general policing?

Old diesel · 31-12-2018 11:17am

California Dreamer wrote: »

New Year, new cars and all that.

How long more is the Hyundai contract for or will we see new vehicle brands this year for general policing?

Is the contract on basis of number of cars or is it on basis of getting a general contract to be main supplier of "general garda cars" for X amount of years.

If you have a contract for 300 general Garda cars from Hyundai - have taken on 200 - and need an extra 300 cars.

I cant see what would stop you ordering 200 of the 300 cars elsewhere.

BaronVon · 02-01-2019 12:00am

6 tenders went out for cars last year, Hyundai won 4 of the 6. Skoda won 2 of them, 1 for a higher powered car, not clear whether it's a Superb or an Octavia VRS

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=116281&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=2&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

Sexual Chocolate · 02-01-2019 3:13am

infacteh wrote: »

6 tenders went out for cars last year, Hyundai won 4 of the 6. Skoda won 2 of them, 1 for a higher powered car, not clear whether it's a Superb or an Octavia VRS

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=116281&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=2&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

The small family saloon from Skoda surely couldn't be the Rapid ?

California Dreamer · 02-01-2019 7:34am

It would be nice to see something like the skoda assigned to roads policing.

Also great to see that management listened to the frontline coppers when they said the Hyundai was not fit for purpose! :rolleyes:

punisher5112 · 02-01-2019 8:37am

California Dreamer wrote: »

It would be nice to see something like the skoda assigned to roads policing.

Also great to see that management listened to the frontline coppers when they said the Hyundai was not fit for purpose! :rolleyes:

Not only do they think the i30/40 high powered 1.7 diesel is suitable for roads policing but so is the Tucson it seems...... Bit laughable really.

High powered....... Also laughable.....

Sexual Chocolate · 02-01-2019 11:10am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Not only do they think the i30/40 high powered 1.7 diesel is suitable for roads policing but so is the Tucson it seems...... Bit laughable really.

High powered....... Also laughable.....

In fairness the Tuscon is 180bhp so its a step up from the i40s.

BaronVon · 04-01-2019 3:52pm

Old diesel wrote: »

Is the contract on basis of number of cars or is it on basis of getting a general contract to be main supplier of "general garda cars" for X amount of years.

If you have a contract for 300 general Garda cars from Hyundai - have taken on 200 - and need an extra 300 cars.

I cant see what would stop you ordering 200 of the 300 cars elsewhere.

Each tender is for a certain amount of cars, e.g. 40 cars. AFAIK each tender can then be renewed a maximum of 2 times, therefore you can get a max of 120 cars from a 40 car tender before you have to go out to tender again.

In the link I posted above:

Lot 1 - 60 cars - Small Family Estate - Hyundai - €832620 ex VAT

Lot 2 - 40 cars - Small Family Saloon - Skoda - €802,600 ex VAT

Lot 3 - 30 cars - Large Family Estate 60kw-80kw - Hyundai - €476,460 ex VAT

Lot 4 - 30 cars - Large Family Estate > 80kw - Skoda - €705,660 ex VAT

Lot 5 - 25 cars - Large Family Saloon or Hatchback 60-80kw - Hyundai - €304,120 ex VAT

Lot 6 - 25 cars - Large Family Saloon or Hatchback - Hyundai - €390,100 ex VAT

BaronVon · 04-01-2019 3:54pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Not only do they think the i30/40 high powered 1.7 diesel is suitable for roads policing but so is the Tucson it seems...... Bit laughable really.

High powered....... Also laughable.....

The Tuscons were a separate tender I believe

Old diesel · 04-01-2019 5:42pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Not only do they think the i30/40 high powered 1.7 diesel is suitable for roads policing but so is the Tucson it seems...... Bit laughable really.

High powered....... Also laughable.....

What is roads policing from a Garda prospective though.

In the UK part of their roads policing philosophy is that criminals use the roads so they have a focus on getting criminals caught etc.

They use cars like 530 BMWs or 3.0 Audis to keep up with the bad guys. Helicopters available too in many areas.

And you might line up 3 530s or a few X5s for some TPAC with someone behind them slowing the traffic so cars behind dont run into the back of a TPAC that ahem didn't go quite to plan.

In Ireland using a 1.7 diesel Hyundai indicates that roads policing is pulling a young guy for no L plates or checking for seat belts and tyres.

Or helping the RSA on the truck side of things

Bigus · 04-01-2019 8:21pm

Old diesel wrote: »

What is roads policing from a Garda prospective though.

In the UK part of their roads policing philosophy is that criminals use the roads so they have a focus on getting criminals caught etc.

They use cars like 530 BMWs or 3.0 Audis to keep up with the bad guys. Helicopters available too in many areas.

And you might line up 3 530s or a few X5s for some TPAC with someone behind them slowing the traffic so cars behind dont run into the back of a TPAC that ahem didn't go quite to plan.

In Ireland using a 1.7 diesel Hyundai indicates that roads policing is pulling a young guy for no L plates or checking for seat belts and tyres.

Or helping the RSA on the truck side of things

How often do the Garda get out run ? Realistically ?
I don't meet as many Gaurds as I used to , but being out run was never top of their problems except for a certain roaming aggravated burglary gang which they used more intelligent means to catch.

I agree with the decades old policy of the Garda not using flashy motors for their marked fleet , except for special operations and armed response,less flash leads to less disconnect with a majority of the public, and has the side effect of saving money.

Also having talked to serving members , the auld Hyundai's held up better in service after 3 years than the slagging they got at the start.

Good to see skoda coming on stream though as well for a benchmark.

Old diesel · 04-01-2019 8:47pm

Bigus wrote: »

How often do the Garda get out run ? Realistically ?
I don't meet as many Gaurds as I used to , but being out run was never top of their problems except for a certain roaming aggravated burglary gang which they used more intelligent means to catch.

I agree with the decades old policy of the Garda not using flashy motors for their marked fleet , except for special operations and armed response,less flash leads to less disconnect with a majority of the public, and has the side effect of saving money.

Also having talked to serving members , the auld Hyundai's held up better in service after 3 years than the slagging they got at the start.

Good to see skoda coming on stream though as well for a benchmark.

I was assuming that Punisher5112s thinking of roads policing is what it is in the UK.

I thought it was reasonable to wonder what the AGS thinking as an organisation regarding roads policing is.

Car choice indicates that management view roads policing somewhat differently to the UK.

Going on car choice you would have to assume that Irish roads policing is basic traffic enforcement.

If it's about going criminal intercepts on the road - you need a better car.

Along with superior training and what have you."

Capri · 12-01-2019 8:30pm

Got a brief glimpse of a marked RP hatchback on Pembroke St, looked like a Hyundai Ionic but couldn't catch it to get reg or photo. Might catch it on charge outside Pearse St...

Mooretaxi · 17-01-2019 4:24am

Roads policing hybrid Hyundai ionic was displayed at the young scientists show,suppose it’ll only be used in city centers

17-01-2019 7:25pm

Mooretaxi wrote: »

Roads policing hybrid Hyundai ionic was displayed at the young scientists show,suppose it’ll only be used in city centers

I'd say it'll be used as frequently as the i3 BMW. And the Segways.

punisher5112 · 17-01-2019 10:38pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd say it'll be used as frequently as the i3 BMW. And the Segways.

Gathering a lot of dust them.

Also the few M5 bought back a good few years ago.

18-01-2019 10:32pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Gathering a lot of dust them.

Also the few M5 bought back a good few years ago.

M5?

punisher5112 · 18-01-2019 10:33pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

M5?

Sitting in storage never used.

They may well be gone now but they had a number of them.

CharlieCroker · 18-01-2019 11:52pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Sitting in storage never used.

They may well be gone now but they had a number of them.

When? Certainly not in the last 10 years

19-01-2019 12:28pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Sitting in storage never used.

They may well be gone now but they had a number of them.

They got 5 series tourers for traffic corps. Not rolled out yet I believe and some being used by driving school in Templemore.

punisher5112 · 19-01-2019 1:01pm

CharlieCroker wrote: »

When? Certainly not in the last 10 years

Around 2006-2007

Capri · 20-01-2019 11:45am

Spanish Guardia Civil, new Alfa Romeo Stevio, Jeep Compass Seat Leon ST. https://www.caranddriver.es/coches/planeta-motor/guardia-civil-renueva-alfa-romeo-stelvio

donvito99 · 23-01-2019 8:14pm

Re the ASU video, the sirens are truly pathetic on those things.

punisher5112 · 23-01-2019 8:24pm

donvito99 wrote: »

Re the ASU video, the sirens are truly pathetic on those things.

I've emailed the Garda traffic section.

I got back they meet EU standard and the same with the unmarked i30/40.

You actually can't see any blue light from behind but stand at a 45° angle and you can.

If I drove them I would not bring them out as they are not safe.

Remember the focus, Mondeo even the vectras had a better light set up where the block led was in the rear centre brake light which could be seen much better(not the best but could be seen)

More people need to complain.

Capri · 24-01-2019 12:12am

punisher5112 wrote: »

I've emailed the Garda traffic section.

I got back they meet EU standard and the same with the unmarked i30/40.

You actually can't see any blue light from behind but stand at a 45° angle and you can.

If I drove them I would not bring them out as they are not safe.

Remember the focus, Mondeo even the vectras had a better light set up where the block led was in the rear centre brake light which could be seen much better(not the best but could be seen)

More people need to complain.

SOMEBODY'S responsible for the sirens/rear strobe light visibility....if you check out the HSE/DFB i30/40's the rear strobes are a lot more visible from directly behind. The black i40 traffic on the N11 has good visibility, MAYBE these cars are sent back to the Garage with a request for 'BETTER REAR STROBES' ? (Just a technical thought - if the garage are fitting strobes BESIDE the original bulbs then the reflector won't send the beam out directly behind, but at the 45 degree mentioned...but if the strobes are fitted from the top/bottom so they 'block' the original bulb (which is still visible through the strobe) then the reflector will throw the strobe beam directly behind as is needed...as I said, just a thought )

punisher5112 · 24-01-2019 7:48pm

Capri wrote: »

SOMEBODY'S responsible for the sirens/rear strobe light visibility....if you check out the HSE/DFB i30/40's the rear strobes are a lot more visible from directly behind. The black i40 traffic on the N11 has good visibility, MAYBE these cars are sent back to the Garage with a request for 'BETTER REAR STROBES' ? (Just a technical thought - if the garage are fitting strobes BESIDE the original bulbs then the reflector won't send the beam out directly behind, but at the 45 degree mentioned...but if the strobes are fitted from the top/bottom so they 'block' the original bulb (which is still visible through the strobe) then the reflector will throw the strobe beam directly behind as is needed...as I said, just a thought )

Traffic corps units had the red/blue led blocks fitted to stand out more.
Obviously it's roads policing now but the 2016/17model got the upgrade in some.

They need to look at the UK and preferably the USA as by God they have some serious kitbon the cars.

There are extras now in the marked i40 where not only is the roof lighting but there are 2 huge blue blocks in the rear window also.

Capri · 25-01-2019 12:28am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Traffic corps units had the red/blue led blocks fitted to stand out more.
Obviously it's roads policing now but the 2016/17model got the upgrade in some.

They need to look at the UK and preferably the USA as by God they have some serious kitbon the cars.

There are extras now in the marked i40 where not only is the roof lighting but there are 2 huge blue blocks in the rear window also.

Not sure, but the driving school i40 is probably pretty well lit up, even the roof bar is on stilts. The Insignias might have come from the factory with the lights fitted as GM were offering police spec.
Secret service see to have the brightest lights in this vid
https://youtu.be/NV5gLmWJ-yI

Stephen Strange · 25-01-2019 12:35am

Saw one of the new Roads Policing Tuscons the other day. Seemed to be lit up like a Christmas tree and pretty loud too, for a change.

Capri · 27-01-2019 12:49am

Stephen Strange wrote: »

Saw one of the new Roads Policing Tuscons the other day. Seemed to be lit up like a Christmas tree and pretty loud too, for a change.

Wonder if HSE / Gardai are kitted out by different workshops - HSE jeep on the N11 tonight , EVERYONE moved out of his way because the lighting/siren were super bright/ loud.

punisher5112 · 27-01-2019 12:58am

Capri wrote: »

Wonder if HSE / Gardai are kitted out by different workshops - HSE jeep on the N11 tonight , EVERYONE moved out of his way because the lighting/siren were super bright/ loud.

Different light bar

Capri · 19-02-2019 12:34am

Police procurement
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S0SMpel6zvw

punisher5112 · 23-04-2019 8:12pm

Tucson is a 180ps I'm told.

The Black Oil · 08-05-2019 11:55pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3JPWyzMGtA

Dedicated cars, imagine that.

California Dreamer · 12-05-2019 11:29pm

Saw a 07 silver marked focus today.

That must be in rag order. How would anyone think that’s still safe to drive?

carzony · 13-05-2019 12:36am

California Dreamer wrote: »

Saw a 07 silver marked focus today.

That must be in rag order. How would anyone think that’s still safe to drive?

Local Detectives are still driving a 2007 Fiesta and a 2006 Corolla. The mileage on them must be colossal by now.

13-05-2019 12:07pm

carzony wrote: »

Local Detectives are still driving a 2007 Fiesta and a 2006 Corolla. The mileage on them must be colossal by now.

Or not hence why sill on the road.

Hogzy · 12-06-2019 12:37pm

Saw a silver/light grey unmarked VW golf today in Dublin. The thing was lit up like a christmas tree.

I saw it from a distance but it looked fairly high spec. Large alloys and what looked like the R-Line body kit, could have been a GTI or a R.

Anyone have any more details as to the spec?

punisher5112 · 12-06-2019 4:22pm

Hogzy wrote: »

Saw a silver/light grey unmarked VW golf today. The thing was lit up like a christmas tree.

I saw it from a distance but it looked fairly high spec. Large alloys and what looked like the R-Line body kit, could have been a GTI or a R.

Anyone have any more details as to the spec?

They have a good few vehicles nobody would even know were.

selectamatic · 12-06-2019 4:26pm

Anyone able to confirm if the unmarked navy Pajero and the unmarked black landcruiser are still on the go over castlebar direction. I'm near certain I saw the Pajero last week. But I thought both had been retired.

Hogzy · 18-06-2019 2:15pm

Hogzy wrote: »

Saw a silver/light grey unmarked VW golf today in Dublin. The thing was lit up like a christmas tree.

I saw it from a distance but it looked fairly high spec. Large alloys and what looked like the R-Line body kit, could have been a GTI or a R.

Anyone have any more details as to the spec?

I see its a Golf R. See Video here

kub · 18-06-2019 8:51pm

I was very impressed to see that car in the video, Gardai with VW sports cars is very rare.
Pity it is another hand me down from the criminal fraternity though, same as that 4x4 that ended up with the ASU.
Seems we will never see the end of recessionary thinking in this country, so its the cheapest for the general Garda fleet, unless of course there are some tasty hand me downs from criminals.

EI321 · 02-07-2019 12:03am

Saw an unmarked Focus ST (grey) tear up the M50 today with blues on. Do the Gardai have many of these? Heard there is one in Blanchardstown.

California Dreamer · 02-07-2019 9:56am

Inbound on the M7 this morning an unmarked Blue Ford Kuga had a guy pulled over.

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