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Saorview Connect

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    AngryLips wrote: »
    I think it depends on what expectations you bring. It's a massive step up over regular terrestrial TV with many of the features of cable TV, but if you're expecting it to match cable TV then you will find it lacking in some areas. For me, it has been really worth it. Only added recording today and it's worked out really well. I feel like it's the complete package now, it's still missing live rewind but, for a free product, I can live with that.

    Great tks, I know it won't be as good as Sky but it's the old folks I'm getting it for and they have no interest in getting sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,673 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    liam7831 wrote: »
    I know it won't be as good as Sky but it's the old folks I'm getting it for and they have no interest in getting sky.
    Would a combi Saorview/satellite TV, with all channels in a single list, be a better option for your parents?

    Even this box comes in cheaper than the Connect box - https://powercity.ie/product/WPS818C


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    The Cush wrote: »
    Would a combi Saorview/satellite TV, with all channels in a single list, be a better option for your parents?

    Even this box comes in cheaper than the Connect box - https://powercity.ie/product/WPS818C

    That's interesting thanks cush, not interested in recording so don't need to worry bout hard drive,, Why is this cheaper than the official saorview box ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,673 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    liam7831 wrote: »
    That's interesting thanks cush, not interested in recording so don't need to worry bout hard drive,, Why is this cheaper than the official saorview box ?

    The Saorview Connect box has a lot of bells and whistles your parents won't require. You're paying for the development of that box. Also the Connect box doesn't have all channels in a single list, it requires switching between the satellite and Saorview tuners.

    The combi box and TVs I mention above are Vestel based and very user friendly for people who only want to watch TV from satellite and Saorview.

    There is a thread here on the combi box here - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057898524.

    The combi TVs come from Walker and Toshiba and are stocked by Powercity amongst others, I have one of each one of each and would find it difficult to go back to another type of TV, examples below, I would recommend the Toshiba over the Walker

    https://powercity.ie/groups/10/11/589
    https://powercity.ie/groups/10/12/15110,603
    https://powercity.ie/groups/10/12/10801,603
    https://powercity.ie/groups/10/13/15104,627
    https://powercity.ie/groups/10/13/10822,627


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭johnnylancer


    Has anyone noticed that the current TV advertising campaign for Saorview Connect does not mention the FTA capabilities of this piece of equipment
    Very strange


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭pegasuspub


    can i ask any users of the saorview connect box how recordings are working out?
    is the guide and series link working ok when used with a hdd for saorview channels only?
    thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 iirishsham40


    http://www.satworld.ie/lnbs-and-lnb-holders/page-3/

    Inverto Pro Quad Terrestrial LNB - cost is €25. They work well.

    You put the aerial pointing at the transmitter, run the cable to the LNB, and then all four sat cables carry the UHF signal. The aerial cable can be quite long. Height helps the aerial, put it at eave level or higher, height is not necessary for the dish, and having it low down makes it easier to install, but you have it installed already.

    At the TV, you use one of these. You could use these at the sat dish as well, but it would need to be weather proof. You could put these behind the TV and use a short pair of cables to connect to the TV. It gives a neat solution.

    [I have no link to the seller]

    Can someone check my "homework" please, I'm not sure I have this right.

    I want to replace my Sky box with a Saorview Connect box.

    I need to buy an aerial, such as the one kindly detailed in the above post, to get the Irish channels into a Saorview Connect box.

    I need to keep my Sky dish to get the Free to Air (FTA) channels from the UK, into the same Saorview box.

    I can plug the aerial output cable into a new LNB, again kindly detailed detailed above, and run the cables from the LNB to the Saorview box in my house.

    I will be able to use the one interface on the TV, the Soarview system, to switch between Irish and UK channels.

    Have I got this right?

    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Can someone check my "homework" please, I'm not sure I have this right.

    I want to replace my Sky box with a Saorview Connect box.

    I need to buy an aerial, such as the one kindly detailed in the above post, to get the Irish channels into a Saorview Connect box.

    I need to keep my Sky dish to get the Free to Air (FTA) channels from the UK, into the same Saorview box.

    I can plug the aerial output cable into a new LNB, again kindly detailed detailed above, and run the cables from the LNB to the Saorview box in my house.

    I will be able to use the one interface on the TV, the Soarview system, to switch between Irish and UK channels.

    Have I got this right?

    Thanks.

    Depends on where you are.

    If you have a Sky dish, you just connect the Sky 'F' connector to the Connect box. If you have Sky +, then connect both the Sky 'F' connectors.

    If you have a good Saorview signal, a cheap aerial will do, and diplexed onto one of the cables at the sat dish.

    Apart from the Connect box, you need one diplexer at the sat dish and one at the TV.

    The info I posted assumed you had no dish.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I need to keep my Sky dish to get the Free to Air (FTA) channels from the UK, into the same Saorview box.
    Only with the older Sky system. Not with Sky Q unless you change the LNB or got the special legacy one installed.



    Saorview connect would be better for catch up and series link on Irish channels.

    If you are OK with just now/next on the UK channels and having to manually enter every single recording on UK channels then Saorview Connect is grand.

    If you want full UK EPG and Series Link on the UK channels get you a genuine FreeSat box for the satellite or a decent Linux FTA receiver for the satellite and aerial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 iirishsham40


    Only with the older Sky system. Not with Sky Q unless you change the LNB or got the special legacy one installed.



    Saorview connect would be better for catch up and series link on Irish channels.

    If you are OK with just now/next on the UK channels and having to manually enter every single recording on UK channels then Saorview Connect is grand.

    If you want full UK EPG and Series Link on the UK channels get you a genuine FreeSat box for the satellite or a decent Linux FTA receiver for the satellite and aerial.

    I have a Sky HD box and dish.

    I'm happy enough with the basic package, so I think I'll go for the Saorview Connect Box.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭tod1982


    quick question - when i connected the aerial to the saorview connect box i am only getting some of the Irish channels. Others such as Virgin Media 1 and Rte1 are missing.
    I connected the aerial directly to the tv to test it out and I was receiving the channels that were missing on the box on the tv but not getting the channels that were on the box on the tv. would anyone know why this is?

    also when i scanned the satellite channels i got many duplicates e.g channel 4 and BBC1 about 4 times each. how do I get rid of the duplicates?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭xl500


    Regarding Recording on Saorview Connect on the Saorview channels Series Link works so no problem recording all episodes in a show

    On Sat Channels only have now and next as expected but is it possible to set a timed recording for say a show on BBC1 at 8.30 next Week I cant seem to find where to set timed recording

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Go to recording section when in satellite mode. In recordings section go to planned option. When in planned section, click right (There should be an arrow to the right of the screen) and that should open up the option to set recording of UKFTA channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭xl500


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    Go to recording section when in satellite mode. In recordings section go to planned option. When in planned section, click right (There should be an arrow to the right of the screen) and that should open up the option to set recording of UKFTA channels.

    Great Worked perfect Thx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    xl500 wrote:
    Great Worked perfect Thx


    Do a test first. I found my recordings missed by one hour when the clocks changed over. Do a test to make sure times are aligned correctly. Otherwise you could end up watching miss marble when you wanted March of the day. Lol!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Is anyone having issues with recordings on the box. All my recordings tend to stutter along. If I stop and resume again it works ago for a few seconds then stutters and stalls again. I am using a 500gb Seagate drive bought in argos. I realise it is a spinning disc in hdd so it seems to be missing spins or something. Not sure if it is demands from hd channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,673 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    Is anyone having issues with recordings on the box. All my recordings tend to stutter along. If I stop and resume again it works ago for a few seconds then stutters and stalls again. I am using a 500gb Seagate drive bought in argos. I realise it is a spinning disc in hdd so it seems to be missing spins or something. Not sure if it is demands from hd channels.

    I wonder if this could be an issue, an AV dedicated HDD is recommended, - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109536715


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    What type of hdd is that? Surely any hdd should work at this stage of their development.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Well no.

    A HDD designed to be used in a desktop will be spinning all the time, while in a AV situation like in a STB, it only spins when required. You need one specified for that use.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    The issue is hd channels. I recorded Ireland cricket series and they kept stalling. The same with MOTD on BBC1. Just watching the EFL highlights I recorded from Quest and no stuttering. This is an sd channel. The box cannot handle hd Channel playback. This is an issue. Is nobody else having this issue.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    The issue is hd channels. I recorded Ireland cricket series and they kept stalling. The same with MOTD on BBC1. Just watching the EFL highlights I recorded from Quest and no stuttering. This is an sd channel. The box cannot handle hd Channel playback. This is an issue. Is nobody else having this issue.

    Do you also have Quest HD?

    If so, do a direct comparison of Quest HD and Quest SD which should provide a more definitive answer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    The issue is hd channels. I recorded Ireland cricket series and they kept stalling. The same with MOTD on BBC1. Just watching the EFL highlights I recorded from Quest and no stuttering. This is an sd channel. The box cannot handle hd Channel playback. This is an issue. Is nobody else having this issue.

    It's likely their crappy software or some usb limitation due to crap hardware. A sub 10Mb stream should be no issue to a modern hard drive. Why do people persist in paying to beta test this disaster?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,544 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Well no.

    A HDD designed to be used in a desktop will be spinning all the time, while in a AV situation like in a STB, it only spins when required. You need one specified for that use.
    It's the opposite in real PVR's.

    They support stuff like time shift by default instead of just pause on demand. HDD is on all the time, HDD is writing all the time.

    If you are in time shift, like when you bypass ads, HDD is both writing and reading at the same time. My FreeSat box has a 500GB drive and I don't plan to upgrade it because it's a proper AV drive. Stuff gets archived to the FTA box if need be.

    My FTA box doesn't have a proper AV drive so I haven't enabled time shift by default. I can still hit pause manually though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    It's the opposite in real PVR's.

    They support stuff like time shift by default instead of just pause on demand. HDD is on all the time, HDD is writing all the time.

    If you are in time shift, like when you bypass ads, HDD is both writing and reading at the same time. My FreeSat box has a 500GB drive and I don't plan to upgrade it because it's a proper AV drive. Stuff gets archived to the FTA box if need be.

    My FTA box doesn't have a proper AV drive so I haven't enabled time shift by default. I can still hit pause manually though.

    I've a seven year old 5400rpm 2.5in laptop drive in a Tiviar Alpha. Timeshift is constantly on and it records without issue. If the drive is mechanically sound and doesn't have bad sectors there should be no issue with any modern HDD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭liam7831


    Have they changed the actual box since launch a few yrs ago or do you just keep getting updates ? Seen one in a shop but has a sticker on it saying "coming in 2018 recording etc" so must be in stock since 2017


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,130 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    liam7831 wrote: »
    Have they changed the actual box since launch a few yrs ago or do you just keep getting updates ? Seen one in a shop but has a sticker on it saying "coming in 2018 recording etc" so must be in stock since 2017
    Nope, same box with some software updates


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭xl500


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    Is anyone having issues with recordings on the box. All my recordings tend to stutter along. If I stop and resume again it works ago for a few seconds then stutters and stalls again. I am using a 500gb Seagate drive bought in argos. I realise it is a spinning disc in hdd so it seems to be missing spins or something. Not sure if it is demands from hd channels.

    I have a WD External Drive connected and have recorded HD Channels No problem with Playback works great


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    xl500 wrote:
    I have a WD External Drive connected and have recorded HD Channels No problem with Playback works great


    It may be the drive. Seagate is probably not good enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Hoagy


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    It may be the drive. Seagate is probably not good enough.

    I doubt that, Seagate are a premium brand.

    It could be that the USB power on the box is marginal and your particular drive is taking a little too much current.

    When combo boxes came out first the advice then was always to use a self powered hard drive. Modern boxes don't seem to need them any more.

    I would try recording HD onto a memory stick and if that works then a powered USB hub might sort it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    lsjmhar wrote: »
    It may be the drive. Seagate is probably not good enough.


    I doubt its a brand problem. Judder and dropped frames is more likely because:

    • The read/write speed speed is too low on the HDD,
    • or the read/write speed is borderline trying to do too much (say for example if timeshift is turned on at the same time as playback)
    • or a fussy os requiring specific formatting (e.g. exFAT)
    • or the inability to process large files over a certain size (HD channels) due to available mem
    • or indeed the the firmware controlling same.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,871 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    STB. wrote: »
    I doubt its a brand problem. Judder and dropped frames is more likely because:

    • The read/write speed speed is too low on the HDD,
    • or the read/write speed is borderline trying to do too much (say for example if timeshift is turned on at the same time as playback)
    • or a fussy os requiring specific formatting (e.g. exFAT)
    • or the inability to process large files over a certain size (HD channels) due to available mem
    • or indeed the the firmware controlling same.

    Could also be bad sectors or fragmented drive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭lsjmhar


    Hoagy wrote:
    I would try recording HD onto a memory stick and if that works then a powered USB hub might sort it.

    Hoagy wrote:
    It could be that the USB power on the box is marginal and your particular drive is taking a little too much current.

    Hoagy wrote:
    When combo boxes came out first the advice then was always to use a self powered hard drive. Modern boxes don't seem to need them any more.

    Hoagy wrote:
    I doubt that, Seagate are a premium brand.


    Cheers. That makes sense. I assume that recordings require more power than sd?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 nmb2010


    Has anyone had any issues with connect box seeing external drive capacity. Bought a new 4TB usb 3.0 drive. Formatted it when asked. It was failing recording anything more than 1 HD show. When I went into the settings I noticed that it stated the capacity was 120 mb. Tried reformatting again in settings, but no luck. Any ideas appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭tod1982


    Looking for a bit of help!!!

    got a saorview connect box but having trouble tuning in the Irish channels
    Aerial on the roof and have 2 connections on the wall

    1 says TV/FM and the other Sat (image attached)

    currently have Sky and connection is to the TV/FM socket - prior to sky I used this to receive the Irish channel directly to the tv but when i connect this to the saorview box and scan for channels it doesnt find any

    I tried connecting the box to the other socket Sat and this found some channels Rte1, Rte2+1, Virgin3 but not all channels. Quality was also poor

    Would anyone know why i cant find the channels? Could it be to do with the aerial? Have sky for about 6 years and havent used the aerial in that time

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Your cables are wrongly labelled (the installer put them through the wrong hole in the tv/sat socket box)
    The one on the left of the photo is the satellite cable. The other one is your saorview.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭tod1982


    ok, thanks
    I thought before sky I had the connection for the aerial on the left one, maybe not
    Is there a reason then that I cant get all the Irish Channels when before I used to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,673 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    tod1982 wrote: »
    currently have Sky and connection is to the TV/FM socket - prior to sky I used this to receive the Irish channel directly to the tv but when i connect this to the saorview box and scan for channels it doesnt find any

    I tried connecting the box to the other socket Sat and this found some channels Rte1, Rte2+1, Virgin3 but not all channels. Quality was also poor

    Would anyone know why i cant find the channels? Could it be to do with the aerial? Have sky for about 6 years and havent used the aerial in that time

    Don't worry about the labelling on the wallplate, the satellite connection is the one with the F-connector (left-hand) which you currently use for Sky, the other cable with the female co-ax plug is to the aerial,

    After 6 years of non-use and a weak Soarview signal I would look to the aerial and/or cable connection to aerial where the fault lies, if you can't sort it yourself get an installer in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    tod1982 wrote: »
    ok, thanks
    I thought before sky I had the connection for the aerial on the left one, maybe not
    Is there a reason then that I cant get all the Irish Channels when before I used to?

    Rte 1 and rte 2 are on different multiplexers (muxes). I think your tv has scanned in all the available channels on one mux and you are missing the channels on the other.

    Go to https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage and check which transmitter is closest to you. It may then give you info on tuning.

    Some lads here know more but different transmitters are tuned in on different channels (a separate thing to channel numbers on your tv).

    E.g. if you are in Glasnevin, the following applies.
    Transmitter
    SITE INFORMATION
    Site:THREE ROCK
    Site On-Air:Yes
    Channels: 30, 33

    Most modern tvs should automatically scan in all the channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭decor58


    tod1982 wrote:
    I tried connecting the box to the other socket Sat and this found some channels Rte1, Rte2+1, Virgin3 but not all channels. Quality was also poor


    Sorry but could you record on your sky service, if so both cables could be connected to your dish, are there two connections on your dish. Where is your aerial connected to the cable at the outlet, you may be picking up Saorview through the cable resulting in a poor signal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 63 ✭✭tod1982


    yes, i have record functionality on sky - the installer at the time put in a new cable which runs directly from the dish to the sky box.
    He then has the other cable from the wall connected to the sky box also

    I connected the aerial to the tv instead of the saorview box and this picked up the other irish channels rte2, virgin one etc but not the channels the saorview box picked up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,673 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    tod1982 wrote: »
    I connected the aerial to the tv instead of the saorview box and this picked up the other irish channels rte2, virgin one etc but not the channels the saorview box picked up

    Your Saorview signal appears to borderline, an installer can determine where the fault lies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Currently have a freesat box and a saorview TV...

    This connect box looks like it offers both with recording function. Is that correct?

    What's the SAT epg like? Is it 7 day? Can you do series link? etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Currently have a freesat box and a saorview TV...

    This connect box looks like it offers both with recording function. Is that correct?

    What's the SAT epg like? Is it 7 day? Can you do series link? etc

    You need to read the thread as this is the boxes biggest failing, it only has now and next satellite epg and no series link on satellite so is no good for future recordings from satellite unless you like configuring manual recording timers. The connect does not update channel frequency changes like a Freesat box

    You should look at the Tiviar Alpha or other Enigma combo boxes that do all this once you get them configured initially (about an hour for sometime who's pc savvy)
    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057827739/11/#post106783394


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    You need to read the thread as this is the boxes biggest failing, it only has now and next satellite epg and no series link on satellite so is no good for future recordings from satellite unless you like configuring manual recording timers. The connect does not update channel frequency changes like a Freesat box

    You should look at the Tiviar Alpha or other Enigma combo boxes that do all this once you get them configured initially (about an hour for sometime who's pc savvy)
    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057827739/11/#post106783394

    fair enough - I'm sure it's been covered but at the same time the thread is 190 something pages long and I'm sure Connect has evolved since the first iteration... Sometimes it's just hard to know where to start reading from..

    I've seen the Tiviar Alpha and I've been following that thread on here. I'll prob lean to getting that set up when I could be bothered dumping my old AA2 with Enigma2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Yeah everyone expected it to get better but it's a failure for the reasons posted above. It's a pity, because it looks like decent hardware being held back by red tape


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Stick to what you have.

    I have a humax freesat box and LG smart tv and it fulfills all my needs. I have an external hard drive connected to the tv to record saorview, pause and rewind tv.

    The LG tv remote can be set up with quick access keys, so
    Long press 1 for saorview
    Long press 2 for freesat.

    Easy peasy.

    I previously thought the connect box was best suited to a bedroom where recording wouldn't be needed as much but in truth you would be better off buying a smaller lg smart tv. With all its apps it solves a lot of problems. The only apps the connect box has are the rte and tg4 players, neither offering live tv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭g6fdyotp5nj2l7


    I'm getting an error when I try to use the on demand on saorview connect. Anyone know how to fix this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭AngryLips


    Yeah everyone expected it to get better but it's a failure for the reasons posted above. It's a pity, because it looks like decent hardware being held back by red tape


    I don't know about this. I'm happy with my set-up, I guess it depends on the expectation you bring to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    AngryLips wrote: »
    I don't know about this. I'm happy with my set-up, I guess it depends on the expectation you bring to it.

    Yes probably good enough for some but the lack of the 7-day EPG means it can never be described as an alternative to the Freesat box


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭g6fdyotp5nj2l7


    Which external hard drive are people using with the connect box and how is it working for them.


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