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The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    The last two football podcasts have been entitled:

    27th Feb - Manchester United becoming a force to be reckoned with

    6th Mar - Manchester United hype exposed by class and passion of Liverpool

    Gave me a chuckle anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Was it just me or did eamon ask the same question about 15 different ways to two contributors on the The Monk is not guilty show?


    the question being was the case brought against the Monk unsafe and improper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,408 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I've always assumed that Dunphy is friendly with the Monk, or at the very least sympathetic to him. He's always been much softer in his coverage of him versus the Kinehans



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Well in this case, I think it’s true to say that the DPP may have being over zealous in proceeding with a case but on the show it was comical to me how many times eamon asked the same question.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭garbanzo


    It is interesting that Eammo’s 17 years in England seem to have had more of an influence on his outlook on life than his 61 years in Ireland. He seems quite obsessed about the goings on over there with the amount of coverage he gives to UK politics via John Kampfner and Chris Johns. They are both excellent contributors but it seems to be ‘the same old same old’ each time.

    Is he trying to appeal to a UK audience with the podcast?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    In fairness, there's lads in Ireland who have never lived in England and are equally obsessed with them.

    I agree with you though that a lot of his content on US and UK I couldn't give a fiddlers about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Tork


    A British audience wouldn't take to Eamon's podcast. His unpolished broadcasting style isn't for everyone. We all know who Eamon is and what he is because he has been around forever.

    I don't listen to all the episodes he puts out and some of the topics aren't my cup of tea. I think there is value in those Chris Johns/Niall Stanage et al episodes. We're getting an Irish perspective on them and because of the nature of podcasting, there's more depth. When UK and USA issues are covered on daytime Irish radio, they have to be shorter. There are plenty of radio shows and podcasts out there covering Irish issues, so I don't mind that Eamon looks abroad.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Kieran Cunningham making quite a stretch to compare the dangers of Katie Taylor continuing to fight to the life changing consequences of Muhammad Ali fighting into middle age.

    eamon lapped it up of course but the fact that both fighters have had very very different careers in terms of the difficulty level of fights they faced up to to now wasn’t even mentioned



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    For the few years I’ve listened to this Dunphy always praised and fawned over his guests. Every journalist was the best journalist, every economist the leader in their field bla bla. Bertie Ahern introduced as almost a God among men

    This weeks episode with Diarmuid Ferriter was very different. Talking over each other, raising voices a bit and picking arguments

    I love to listen to Diarmuid Ferriter and he makes lots of contributions across Irish radio.

    I don’t ever remember a Stand episode like this. Something up with Dunphy this week, there was a bit of agression in this one.

    Maybe Dunphy was upset that Michael D slagged off a Dame of the British Empire



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    I used to listen to The Stand a bit but I gave up when Eamon kept giving a platform to the zero covid frauds.

    Can’t say I miss it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭sportsfan90


    It was quite spiky alright.

    Not sure it came close to the episode with John Waters prior to the abortion referendum though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    Is Liam Brady done appearing on the podcast? I know he finished with RTE this week, not sure if Eamon's goodbye at the end was for good or see you when the football season starts back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I wouldn't have thought so, but just listened to the last few seconds again and maybe you're right...

    I would have thought he'd still like to contribute to the podcasts and occasional radio bits etc, that it was only the TV stuff he was backing away from. Giles is still at it it and is a fair bit older!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    Oh yeah. He had some madman on that wanted total lockdown every time there was a new case. It was v weird.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    One of the best episodes of a podcast ever

    Tbh I don't think that was a particularly spiky episode.

    He just asked a question of John Waters, not even a very confrontational one, at the start and Waters completely lost the plot and stormed out shouting and swearing - looking like a total headcase.



  • Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep


    me neither, but don't like how he just pretended that none of that ever happened. He terrorised quite a large number of people. Anyway, let's just say I know he knows this now!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,637 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    The episode with Diarmuid Ferriter was pretty good.

    Dunphy is way out of his depth when he attempts to go toe-to-toe with someone in an argument and Ferriter let him away with absolutely nothing - "I think you're being very emotive" - in the debate and in, my view, absolutely schooled him.

    Dunphy was absolutely desperate to get the last word in too, twice he tried to score some points after he appeared to be wrapping it up and twice Ferriter came back, forcing Dunphy to retreat to his avuncular Eamo mode - "Thanks for (heh-heh) indulging me" - to save some face at the close.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Towards the end of Ryan's time on the podcast Eamon did start to push back against him a lot more than he had before. So yeah I think he knew he'd been a bit too indulgent. It should also he said though that Ryan was right about a lot of things too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭Tork


    I got the impression from later comments by Eamon that he'd changed his mind on zero covid. I think Tomás Ryan really scared the sh*t out of Eamon. I noticed that even when other contributors to radio shows had started to come into studio, Eamon stayed at home and spoke over the phone. Having said that, it's easy to see why he's nervous about catching covid. He has emphysema after a lifetime of smoking and even a common cold can cause problems for a sufferer. Who's to say the early strains of covid wouldn't have made him very ill or worse? It's easy to be wise after the event.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭garbanzo


    Enjoyed the episode with Diarmuid Ferriter alright. I think deep down Éammo can’t hide his disappointment that he didn’t get an OBE !



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭robwen


    Is Eamon on holidays or has he gone exclusive on some platform? No podcast for 3 weeks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭NinetyForNone




  • Registered Users Posts: 821 ✭✭✭MattressRick


    Jaysus Eamon has a bad habit of letting regular guests do a summary of yht story to date or maybe I've only heard it on the Fionnan Sheahan pods about Tubridys pay. Nearly half of the 30 mins taken up with it. What's the point of putting out regular pods covering a story over a matter of weeks or months, if you're wasting time doing a synopsis every time. Headwrecking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,408 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I've given up on the stand, but I definitely noticed that there's always been a tendency for each podcast on a specific topic to cover a lot of already covered ground and then give a little bit extra at the end. Which is great if you're new to the topic, but very annoying if a regular listener.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    giles on this morning's podcast saying stephen kenny should get a contract extension. but also saying we've a great crop of players now. doesn't really make sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I really don't think John watched the French and Dutch games.

    Both of them were all over the shop, Eamo thought we were at home to France.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,847 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Whats up with eamo and the rte rugby panel. His last couple of rugby podcasts he has being given them sly digs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,812 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Not a regular Stand listener but I'd imagine D O'B is the kind of smug smarmy git who would run Eamon up the wrong way



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Phillip O'Connor in complete denial of the failed experiment of a multicultural society based on mass immigration.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭steve_r


    Thought the conversation with John Giles on Bobby Charlton was really good, and quite sad in how Giles described him as getting even quieter after Munich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Is there anyone left alive who was on the plane?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    I think Bobby Charlton was the last remaining survivor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Good listen right enough.

    Makes a change from John's usual lazy ramblings about what he read in the paper with reminders from Eamo that the whole country was hanging on his every word and didn't want to hear from him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    I listened to The Stand for the first time in months this week to hear Giles and Dunphy on Man Utd.

    Highlights included Dunphy calling Gary Neville a windbag for having an opinion on everything (!) and him confidently telling Giles that Arambat had been signed from Ajax.

    I won’t bother listening again anytime soon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Leslie Purkiss


    Your loss pal. We’ll never have the likes of JG or ED again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭JKerova1


    On their discussion about Stephen Kenny John Giles has no idea that Irish players were not allowed to go to England until they were over 18. He hadn't a clue who the manager of the u21 team was either. Eamon didn't even seem to know that Evan Ferguson was over in England before he was 18 because of his mother being English.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Eamon and John are too far out of touch with the modern game. John is still very good and I could listen to him all day but for that slot to work they need someone else on to bounce off and to correct their obvious mistakes! I think John is much better when he's on to talk about some specific topic thats close to his heart, e.g. the Bobby Charlton tribute a few weeks ago rather than yet another episode bitching about Pogba and his ilk.

    it was also far better when Liam Brady used to join in, it really needs that different viewpoint, someone a little more in-tune with the modern game, but sadly Liam has retired from it all now (he confirmed as much in his own dedicated episode earlier in the week).

    I'm no great fan of Gary Neville but I think he's a solid pundit, so Eamon calling him a "windbag" is a bit ridiculous. The irony seems to be lost on him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    John isn’t going to want to listen to anyone correcting his mistakes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭Westernview


    I agree that Liam is a big loss. Even occasional disagreements gives it a bit of variety. Otherwise ED is too inclined to agree with JG, even if it reflects how much he respects his opinion. They have had Didi on a few times a while back if im correct? Could do with him back.

    Is Liam up to anything now?..did he just retire due to his disdain for the modern game?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Yeah Didi used to be a regular in early days of that podcast but I don't think he's been on it at all for a few years now. Dunphy has also occasionally made a few disparaging remarks about Didi's RTE analysis, probably in regard to Didi's criticism of Stephen Kenny... and Eamon won't hear a bad word said about Kenny. So maybe there was a bit of a falling out there. Eamon of course has form for falling out with people...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    I did think Liam would keep up the podcasts and occasional radio contributions but it seems he's decided to step away entirely. Its a shame because I think he's still pretty sharp on the modern game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Didi is a big analyst on German tv and does games for rte. He probably has enough money coming in to not have to bother



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,823 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Love John and Eamo but I tend to agree with most of what you've said here. The "Kids don't play ball on the streets" line has gotten very old at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    No worries pal, I remember when Giles and Dunphy were essential viewing. Those days are long gone unfortunately



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    I agree. Maybe he doesn’t want to end up like what John and Eamon have become. Thought he was still by far the best on the RTE panel when he finished up though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,450 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Yeah there’s probably an element of that and I agree that he’d still be a better pundit than any of RTE’s current crop.

    I can definitely relate to the points he made when he decided to retire from the TV work - that he was getting a bit fed up and disillusioned with the modern game - the money, the sports washing, the endless VAR controversies, etc.

    Eamonn’s 2-part podcast with him is worth a listen, covering his recent autobiography.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭Westernview


    It feels like we are coming near the end of an era doesn't it?. Liam gone, Souness retired, John and Eamon (for all their faults) wont be around forever and will be greatly missed.

    Maybe I'm being overly nostalgic but apart from Roy Keane (like him or loathe him) it feels like the whole scene will be very dull and sanitised. Even Didi almost seems irritable having to analyse alongside his new restrained colleagues. God be with the days when I looked forward to the half time studio row as much as the game itself.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭cheese sandwich


    The pre- and post- game analysis used to be better than the game itself. I can remember the glory days of Dunphy Giles and Brady on RTE’s Champions League coverage, “This guy Ronaldo is a cod”, “I’ll tell you who wrote it” etc etc. Absolutely must-see viewing. I used to listen to the Last Word on match days to try and work out if it was pre-recorded so as to know if Dunphy would be on TV that night!

    These days I never bother with the panels, particularly on RTÉ, which seem to have been picked to be as bland and controversy-free as possible. God forbid that someone might say something that the arseholes on Twitter would subsequently complain about.



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