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June 2019 Boards weather forecast contest

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  • Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭waterways


    13.6 v 16.3, 3-6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Claremorris 1.8c brrrrrrrrrrrr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    That is now 1.2 C for the MIN at Claremorris, and a win for Cork (15.8 vs 15.1) making the score 4-6 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Cork 5 vs Dublin 6 after 11th went 16.0-15.4 for Cork.

    At the rate this month is unfolding, the MAX could be a sorry number indeed. Somebody with access to data have a look and see what the MAX and mean for any station was in June 1972. That one was a very chilly month. CET was only 11.8, tied second lowest on record.


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Thanks for the memories, MT. I froze in the Gaelteacht in June 1972. I remember a snow shower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    12.0 v 11.1 Pretty low values for both places. Cork gets a point making even against Dublin 6-6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    GAA will hv to bring in the boards system to Leinster Championship


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Cork 5 vs Dublin 6 after 11th went 16.0-15.4 for Cork.

    At the rate this month is unfolding, the MAX could be a sorry number indeed. Somebody with access to data have a look and see what the MAX and mean for any station was in June 1972. That one was a very chilly month. CET was only 11.8, tied second lowest on record.

    'Twas the coldest June on record back to 1967 using the IMT.
    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Top 5 coldest Junes on record for Ireland (records back to 1967) using the IMT.

    1. 1972; 11.1c
    2. 1991; 12.0c
    3. 1985; 12.1c
    4. 2011; 12.2c
    5. 1977; 12.2c

    2019 is running at a dismal 11.3c up to June 8th.

    As a comparison for interest, these are the top 5 warmest:

    1. 2018; 16.0c
    2. 1970; 15.4c
    3. 1976; 15.2c
    4. 2010; 15.0c
    5. 1992; 14.9c

    Data from Met Éireann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    In June 2011 it was 22 and 24c at the start of June in Claremorris but never got over 19c after that


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    A selection of Irish stations' absolute monthly max for June 1972. In order from highest to lowest max.

    IgCLq0X.png

    Data from Met Éireann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Crikey just look at that Belmullet figure!!

    This year is a scorcher


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I was actually in the UK all through June 1972 on a visit and it was frigid especially for somebody who had just left behind some hot weather in May. I don't remember much about it other than constant cloud, drizzle and cold winds. The stats show that it wasn't nearly as wet as this month. It got a little better in the first week of July before I returned home.

    My only visit to Ireland was in June 1978 and it wasn't very warm then either (last twelve days of that month to be specific), although I think it was just a touch below normal perhaps. Hoping to return one day, my wife hasn't been to Ireland in her travels (just once with me to the UK) or anywhere in Europe (I have done some travelling there, all in either 1972 or 1974, but lots of places left to see including Italy and Greece).

    Probably won't be this year as we have just moved so maybe next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Surely all the boardies could chip in a tenner to get to see the famous MTC in our country. Surely a bigger event than Trump in Doonbeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    My father was driving a tractor to an out farm about 9 miles away in June 72. He was telling me that he was getting perished. It was a platform tractor with no cab. He needed to do some work there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    The battle of 2 of the busiest airports in the country takes on a new twist. We have a new leader. 12.7 v12.1 Cork 7 Dublin 6.
    Dublin has suffered from being under frontal clouds for the past couple of days with depressed temperatures but not an awful lot of rainfall.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Is there a shock on the cards or will Dublin empty the bench?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    pauldry wrote: »
    Is there a shock on the cards or will Dublin empty the bench?

    It looks like Dublin has put on a sub in this battle of the airports.
    12.8 for Cork v 14.0 for Dublin 7-7 so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    If its a draw do we replay in July when someone will have to win?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After two weeks ...

    IMT now on 11.2, this past week 11.1 was 2.4 deg below average.

    MAX remains an open file and MIN was 1.2 C.

    PRC now 153% of normal, the past week while drizzly much of the time was relatively dry at 74% of normal.

    SUN has managed to improve to 95% of normal, past week was actually above normal at 107% (643/600) despite the two Dublin area locations being a little below average.

    Bonus has reached 7-7 to date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    New min

    1.1c Markree


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    In this Airport Battle the bar has risen with higher temperatures. But it is Dublin that’s hotting up more than Cork. Scoring 14.2 v 16.4 Cork 7 Dublin 8. With higher temperatures forecast during the week the battle is going on a new level.
    Shannon Airport reported 18°c at 1300.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I thought we might extend this concept for the bonus, in July we could have Connacht vs Ulster then in August the two winners could play for the all-Ireland title (probably Dublin will win this month, but to be determined). If we do have a tie at end of June, they would play off on 1st of July (outside the contest bonus scoring).

    So for Connacht it should probably be Athenry or Claremorris, but for Ulster, I am thinking either Finner Camp or Ballyhaise (Malin Head obviously would lose one of these to anywhere but possibly Belmullet).

    So which two stations do you want to pick for this (Athenry/Claremorris vs Finner Camp/Ballyhaise) for July? I think I would set the normal at 17-14 in favour of Connacht.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Here is the score check in our Airport Battle, Cork 7(15.3) Dublin 9 (16.4).

    Probable high temperature unless there is a higher figure earlier this month. 18.8°C at Shannon Airport. Surely if this is not beaten so far it will be this week if forecasts are correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    The battle of the Airports are heating up. Cork has 16.1°c so remains on 7 points. Dublin is now on 10 points after scoring a high of 18.2°c.


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    We might also have a new monthly max with Phoenix Park at a dizzying high of 19.4.
    Connaught v Ulster is a difficult one as the weather does not seem to vary as much due to wind direction, and the distance between stations is smaller.
    How about max wind or gust at Mace v Malin?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    Tae laidir wrote: »
    We might also have a new monthly max with Phoenix Park at a dizzying high of 19.4.
    Connaught v Ulster is a difficult one as the weather does not seem to vary as much due to wind direction, and the distance between stations is smaller.
    How about max wind or gust at Mace v Malin?

    Or maybe rainfall, same as the Dublin v Cork daily temperature except with rainfall instead of temperatures. Maybe Belmullet vs Malin or something like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Well the thing about temperature would be to maintain the format through a second semi-final so to speak, then have a final version in August. But as you say the temperature contrast from any station in Connacht to Ulster might be so random as to remove real interest from the exercise. So unless I hear a fairly widespread appeal to go with that concept, I will just drop it altogether and have a more conventional bonus question. Not a problem, this has been an interesting one in itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    The battle of the provinces would be interesting as a bonus question in a future month. It probably be more gripping than this months battle of the Airports. Another battle is Malin Head v. Sherkin Island (Mizen Head nearest station).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Connacht and Ulster do vary

    e.g Ballyhaise and Claremorris are warmer than Knock or Malin or Belmullet.

    Perhaps even more mysterious is the wet and hot weather in Furnace Newport which can be 21c one day but 12c the next with 35mm of rain.

    Living in the West and Northwest there is huge variations in locations.

    Markree is way sunnier than Sligo
    Newport is way warmer than Belmullet
    Claremorris warm but so is Ballyhaise.
    Malin Head freezing

    A good West v North might actually be Knock v Malin as they are both cold so would be close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I guess with Newport it's a little further from the open ocean so any sort of southeast wind component will have an overland trajectory and even some downsloping off the Connemara hills (might be reason why it sometimes warms up more than other locations). Belmullet is pretty exposed to almost all wind directions with at least some fetch over cold water. Malin can sometimes avoid the marine influence with a strong enough south to southeast wind.

    Marine layers are tricky to forecast. They were having some trouble doing it with the recent U.S. Open golf, and I know from living near the coast how fickle the marine layer can be, from day to day in a spell of quiet weather, and from place to place, have seen many times where the dense fog will drift into some parts of downtown Vancouver while a few kms away there is bright sunshine. And the temperature contrast in the marine layer can be very strong. The Great Lakes have lake breeze environments where you can actually feel the temperature changing as you walk away from the lakeshore. Have seen cases in April-May where it would be 5-7 C at the lakeshore and 23 C at Toronto airport which is like 15 kms inland. Even a small lake can have a dramatic impact on local temperatures, have seen examples of 15 to 30 C within a half km near lakes that were either ice covered in May or just after losing their winter ice, and in one case the lake was only a couple of miles wide and twenty miles north-south.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Update on the battle of the airports. There was only 0.2°c difference in the high temperatures recorded at Cork and Dublin Airports. 16.8 V 17.0 making it Cork 7 Dublin 11. If minimum temperatures had to be used as a tiebreaker Cork also loses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    MAX now 19.7 (Mountdillon 18th), Gurteen no report to be checked also.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Artane2002


    MAX now 19.7 (Mountdillon 18th), Gurteen no report to be checked also.

    Was there not a 20.0c at Phoenix Park and Newport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Its not going to matter by this time next week as those figures will be well breached


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    16. 9 v 16.7. 2 point win for Cork. 8 - 11


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    16.9 v 16.7. 2 point win for Cork. 8 - 11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    In this Battle of the Airports Dublin did take a stumble on the 19 of June giving a point away to Cork but powers on from yesterday’s result.

    16.1 V 16.7 Giving Cork 8 Dublin 12.

    With a forecast of a very warm easterly flow next week it looks like there would a dramatic fight back from Cork as Dublin could be affected by the cool Irish Sea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    In this Airport Battle we have to use a tiebreaker to separate the airports in order to award a point as per rules set by M.T. see page 1 for the first time this month.

    Both airports recorded a max temperature of 15.8°C making a draw.
    As a tiebreaker we are awarding a point to the airport with the highest Min.
    Cork 7.4°C Dublin 6.4° Giving score now of 9 - 12 after 21 days of battle with 9 more points still in the bag. For a lot of this month the bar has been low but it will be much higher next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After three weeks ...

    IMT on 11.44 with this past week 12.2, 1.8 below normal. With the predicted warm spell, the IMT will probably average 18 from now to end, resulting in an outcome near 13.5, about normal for June.

    MAX has been no higher than 20 so far, may exceed that today but will push into mid-20s or higher. MIN of 1.1 probably now set.

    PRC has fallen to 138% with this past week at 79% of normal (the south was quite dry, some northern locations above normal). Amounts from now to end of month likely to be in a similar range to current value, but an entirely dry nine days would bring the average to 96% of normal so it can't be less than 100% if even a minimal amount of rain falls.

    SUN is now up to 110% with this past week at 141% (857/600). Hard to say whether this will go up or down given the complexity of the forecast, probably down slightly. Normal by end of month requires 77% from today to 30th.

    The current score in the bonus question is 9 for Cork and 12 for Dublin. I think with the warm southeast flow they may share the wins depending on cloud and rainfall, so the outcome may be around 12 to 18 or 13 to 17.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Bonus update 9-13 after Dublin edged Cork by one degree (17.1 v 16.0) on Saturday 22nd.

    New MAX 21.1 at Mountdillon. (may last to mid-week anyway)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Our bonus question the Battle of the Airports it is 13.9 v 17.4 Giving Cork stuck on 9 while Dublin moves to 14. The Battle is getting hotter this week lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Bonus now 10-14 as Cork 19.7 vs Dub 18.3 on a warmer Monday 24th.

    New MAX 22.4 at Athenry.

    Have posted a contest thread for this coming warm spell, enter today (up to 0300h Wed).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Bonus score now 11-14, after Cork dusted Dublin 20.0 to 18.0 on 25th.

    MAX tied at Shannon (another 22.4) but the big guns will be out on Thursday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,585 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Cork is going all out to even the match, 12-14 now (preliminary numbers posted say 19.7 vs 17.6).

    Probable new MAX at Mace Head of all places (23), Shannon reached 22.7 for sure. These will get blown away today and Friday though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Cork showing 22 and Dublin 18.
    Shannon at 28!!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭waterways


    Tae laidir wrote: »
    Cork showing 22 and Dublin 18.
    Shannon at 28!!!!


    Confirmed.
    Shannon Airport reached 28.4 °C yesterday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭waterways


    23.5 v 18.5, 13-14


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Our Bonus Question in the battle of the Airports Cork has scored again as Dublin is hampered by a cool onshore wind but it may be the last points that Cork will score by the months end.

    23.3 v 18.5 Making it Cork 13 Dublin 14.

    There are 3 more points still in the bag. Forecasts suggest that Dublin will lose the cool wind but Cork will be more influence over the 3 remaining days. My predicted final score should read 13- 17. Anybody that has guessed it which is not me should be excited.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭adam240610


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    Our Bonus Question in the battle of the Airports Cork has scored again as Dublin is hampered by a cool onshore wind but it may be the last points that Cork will score by the months end.

    23.3 v 18.5 Making it Cork 13 Dublin 14.

    There are 3 more points still in the bag. Forecasts suggest that Dublin will lose the cool wind but Cork will be more influence over the 3 remaining days. My predicted final score should read 14- 17. Anybody that has guessed it which is not me should be excited.

    Do you mean 13-17 or 14-16? Considering they should sum to 30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    adam240610 wrote: »
    Do you mean 13-17 or 14-16? Considering they should sum to 30

    Main post corrected it should read 13-17


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